mera chalenge ha k sab shia najayez paida howe ha Muharam k dino behan aur ma ka kch lehaz nahe ejtamai nekah hota ha per gorey k nechay jesay zol jinnah shia kehta ha aur us rat ko shamee ghariba ab koi aik bata jo 1 bap ka ho DNA test ma per 5 mint ma malom karwata ho.
Slae kutte tum log wo koom ho Jis k na agay koi hai na peeche bin lagaam ke kutte. Zara pata karna wo 3 idiots kitne Bapoon ki awlaadein thin. mawia ki nasal…..
oy saaly apni oqaat m reh mujhy janty ni ho m aap ka sihaba ikraam ko bura bhala ni kehna chahta.Hmara aga pixha hy lekin tmhara koi aga picha ni hy.
kameny.tum to mujhy haramzaady lagty hokatry katry k lgty ho koi katra tmhari maan ny kahen sy lia aur koi kahen sy aur uss sy tm jaisa gashti ka baxha bna samjhy tum koi prblem ho to mujh sy contect kro.behn chood.
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Q k wo islam ki chadar ma bachna chati hai aur tm tw halala karty hu haramiyon haram ki awlod itny begerat hu teri ma ny b kia hu ga halala pochin ja k
yeh jo shia hain yeh sab kutti ki aulad hain yeh majoosi abne majoosi jin ki behan ko ummer e faroque ne bans dia tha wo islam se badla lene ki koshshish karte hain api behnoo ki phudi pharwa ke.
Beta tera qasoor ni h qasoor os dalli bnu omeya ka h jis ki to nasal h bc gando .koe khuda ka khoooof kr maloooon ki olad Rasool as k nawase ko to apne gar k karoobar se mila rha h .
mader chod haram kjanay lund k bachay phaly apnay bap kitadad gin kiyoun k teri maa ki phudi main drd ho raha hay bharway harami teray woh teno lanti jin ka tu mureed hay un ki koi ek fazilat bata siwaye gand merwanay k unhon nay kuch nahi kiya
Teri tuja pata he k teri maa n kis kis k laan chosa he wo subah gali m khari ho jati jo b aata he wo us ki lata he es lie tu tyje tamiz ni he tare 100 se b zaida baap he hamit he tari maa ki
Teri maa ki phudi me lun du tu khud qatry qatry sy mil k bna hua hy jo aesa keh rha hy teri behin ko chodu gashti k bachy shiya k khilaf bat krta hy tujy apni maa ka pta hy jis ny na jany kitny lun liay or tu harami peda hu lanat teri behin dy jhuthy ty kutti dxa bachya.
yazid ki koom ho tum kaya jano hussain kaya hay kutay kay bachay tari ma or bhan ka phuda mera bhai lay kar bhagh gaya gashti daiya bala jo tuna apne ma judia mera bhai tari baty ko lay kar bhagh jay ga tari ma or bhan ko mera bhai un ki bund phar day ga maray bap kay mulazim ka nam hizbullah khan hay sub shia to paida huway lakin tumari ma ka phuda marnay kay leya hizbullah khan pad kam mara karo lagta hay aj kal boht ur rahay ho aisa lagta ha tumari bagi ka rista or phuda kisi nay nahi leya hizbullah soooooooo lakh di lanat taray tay.
Kuti ma kar Bach tari ma ko yazeed na choda ta tu phar to harmi pada ho.delay .sha ko kafer kahna wala khud kafer ha .Jo hussian a.s ka dusman humra dusman
jin kambakhton ka leader khud waladuzzinah ibne waladuzzinah ho woh auron kay baray main jo kahen lekin unki haqeeqat kisi say posheedah naheen .
Aur is baat ka saboot khud inkay mashoor historian Mohd. Saeb al Kalbi nay apni kitab Al Salabata fi Marefatah Sahabah main Likha hai ki kaisay ek charwaha couple tanhai me milay uskay nateejay main DOEM kay baap paida huay jinhonay upni maan say ek aulaad paidah ki jo badi hui to usi say shaadi kar li .
ziadatar ahkaam e deen main bidatain bhi unheen ki eijaad hain jiska nateejah Abu horairah ki ek hadees say milta hai ki kaisay farishtay sahabah ko jahannum ki taraf ghaseet kay lay ja rahay hain.
Alishan m na mutta ka baray ma 8 swal kiay thay, lakin LUBP aur ap na wo delete kar diay, ager ap ko wo swal yad hain to jawab do, kuain ka muta ko ap ka firkay ma bohat barah rukin e imani manty hain, kisi ahl bait na kia ha, hawala dain, ya pher muta ko haram mano with out taqia,
HIZBULLAH AGAR TU SABIT KER DAY K MUHARRUM MAIN HUM LOUG YEAH SAB GANDAY KAAM KERTAY HAIN TU JO TU SELECT KARE WOH SAZA MUJHAI MANZOOR…BUT UPER LAGAY GAY TEREY ILZAAM MAIN KOI AIK BHI ILZAAAM GHALAT SABIT HUA TU YAAD RAKH JAHA SE BAIT KER TU BHONK RAHA HAI WAHIN AA K TERI BAJAON GA AUR YAAD RAKH TERA WOH HAAL KARUN GA K NA TERI MARDON MAIN GINTI HU GI NA AURTON MAIN BHARTI TUJH JESAY GATAR CHAAP BUHAT AAYE HAIN KHANZIR JHAGNVI KI ULAAAD AUR TERE MOUN KALA KER K TUJHAI KUTTA BANA K GALI GALI NA PHIRAYA TU NAAM BADAL DENA MERA KANJAR
tari maan ne ta baqir mjlisi ko kha tha k tera lora bht bara mjy dard hoga zra aram se mutta krna to baqir mjlisi k terhy lund se jo pada ho wo mera lund janta sirf gand marwana janta h bs harami khe ka.
Wow hizbullah nazar aa gya tmhare kitne baap hen or kitni milawat ha tm me .. Sahi baat ha na jhangvi k baap ka pta tha na tre baap ka pta hoga tjhe .. Jisne tre dimagh me ye bakwas bhari ha us se puch k tera baap kon tha .. Dna test karane chala ha apne baap ka dna test krwa tje pta chalega tu kis kutte ki nasal se ha … Mere khyal me tera naamaloom baap b shia tha jo itni nafrat krta ha tu shion se haramzade!!!
My friends only 5% shia na 95% muslims ko yargamal banaia hua ha, her bari seat par in ka banda ha, amarica, israeel, iran say in ka fund aty hain, suni loogoon ko is ka aesas nahi ha, taher al padri(qadri) isi mission par aiya ha, khuda ka liay hoosh ka nakhun lo aur in ka mission ko naqam kar do, is ka lia 5 waqat ki namaz, Allah Mudded ka narah, aur har maqam par in per nazar rakhion, ma na muta pay 8 sawal kiey thay lakin LUBP na wo delete kar diey, kia koi shia muta ki padawar hony ka dawa karta ha?
Mashah allah kia zuban istamal ki ha Ali k nokepar aur Alishan na, Hizbullah ager galat ka raha ha to daleel sa jawab do, Ali ra ko mantay ho aur zuban tum logoo ki itni galiz, ap loog Khumani ko bohat mantay bulkay usay Immam e Hazer mantay ho, us ki kitab Kashaf Al Asrar page 107, wo kayta ha ka, Hum us khuda ko nahi mantay jis ka Nubi ka bad Abu baker ra, Umer ra, Usman ra, Muawia ra jasay bud qumash loogoo ko hakoomat mil jaye, tumari shia kitab Munaqab Shher Ib n Ashoob Jild 3 page 63, Ali ra na farmaia, jo ya na kahay ka m 4th khalifa hoon us par Allah ki lanat, ab insaf karo lanat kis par ati ha,
tari maa ki choot pr b lanat ha jo tuje bhr phenka h randi k ja k apne baap ka pta lga k khn gand mrwa rha h. phudi k tari poori sheiat pe lanat ho kafir ho tm log or jahanum k aakhri tabqay ma tum log he ho agr asi soch ha to randi k.
To Noker e Hussain, ap na Jangvi ko muta ki padawar qarar dia ha, muta to ap ka iman ka sub say barah rukin ha, Khamini ko zindabad kaytay ho, us gustakh e sahaba ko to Allah na dunia ma nunga kar ka bata dia,
Jesi zuban istemal karo ge wesa hi jawab mile ga … Aankh khol kr dekh sirf 5% shion ne balochistan ki hukoomat hata di or pakistan ko hila k rakh dia .. Tmhare lashkare yazeedi or sipah e yazeedi bhi apne bill me ghuss gae ..
Mr noker e Ali hmara Shia se ikhtlaf apni jaga bt hm kbi bi kisi masoom ki killing k kail ni chahe wo Shia ho ya Sunni Jo kush queta ma hoa bache yateem hoe aurtain bewa hoe bazurgo k sahare chale gae kisi ko marna ye kn sa Islam ha hm bt kr Skte hn dialogue kr Skte hn bt killing I being a Muslim want to say emphatically k terrorist chae koi bi ho kisi mslak se ho wo Kafiro se bi bd tar ha.hm queeta k mutasreen k sath hn un k sath bht bra zulm hoa rehe bat blochistan govt ki to shaid apko supreme court ka decision ni PTA aj se 6month pehle is govt ko na ahel declare kr dia tha govt to bhana chahti thi bt kisi aik Sunni ne Shia k mutalbe ki mukhalift ki?ni na bec ye aik jaiz tha waise bi Shia ka main mutable army ka tha governor rule bi to ppp ka ha.ab kan ko jis side se pakr lo aik na ehl Gaya dusra na ehl aa gaya bt I personally believe k army queeta ka only solution ha Shia ko is se peechae ni htna chahiae tha.
madrchod ja baap ko dhhond maa se poch k ks ks se muttay krti rhi ha ta k tare ko apna baap dhoondnay ma asani ho chootye nh to apna DNA test krwa ja k teri pehn da jutttha
shia ko kafir khanay walo apni ukat hm hussainio ko na dikhao,kiuk hm sabar krna jantay han.a dahk apni bill sy nikal k 72 ka janza utnay ke takat aj be ha hm m.or hm tujay daleel dy k koch sabit kiu kray hm to kula-a-eman k manay walay han.kamil yakeen ha hmy kud pa or kuda pa.rechecking ki zarorat ap ko ha.
hizbullah without research agar app kuch bhi kaho gay tu uska anjam bhi bhugatna ho ga. jo ilzamat app laga rahy ho na un ko khud caofirm kar lo pehlay. warna app ka thikana bhi app k jhangvi k pass hi ho ga Jahanum main. mai bohat bzy hoon thats why abi behas nahi kar pa raha. let me free just once. let me free from my papers than i will tell you k kafir kisy kehty hain. ja k na apni books parho law ki or mje sir aik baat batao k tumhary maslk main talaq k 2 saal or in some cases 4 saal bad bhi paida hony wala jaiz hota hai. just tell me how. agar jaiz nahi hota tu kia hota hai phir. or agar tum iss point ko justify na kar saky tu phir samj jana k tum log kitny halali ho.
hamary jhngvi saaheb ka muqaam janat ul firdous hai tu apne baqir mjlisi ka gham kr mari jan jo khta hai k apni maa behn se b muutty kro or khandan ma sb ko chodo phle randi k bchy bt krta hai phudi da na hoooooooowayyyyyyy taayyyyyyy.
mery shia bhaio in logon nay hamara itehad or hamari taqat dekh li hai. yay kabhi bhi samnay aa kar nahi lar sakty jis tarha inn k bary peechay say war karny k aadi thy yay bhi wohi hain na q k insan appny baron say he seekhta hai. ham tu 4 din nehaty maidan main rahay kisi lanti ki himat hoi k aaey. nahi. q k inn logon ko apni okat or haqeeqat dono pata hain. main kisi ki bhi dil azari kabhi nahi karna chahta but yay apni okat main nahi rehty. main apny tamam sunni bhaion ka bhi boohat mashkoor hoon jinhon nay hamara sath dia. mje sunion say koi problem nahi hai. jis jis ko bhi meri baat say takleef ho gi wo wahabhi, deobandi ya in hi ki nasal say ho ga.
akaly aao randion k bachy sb ko kalti krduna sbv ikathy aaty ho phatti hai tm logo ki hm se s lye aklay maa nh chudwaty ho sb mil k chudwaaty ho hr jga hamamra ak he jawan kafi tum sb bhenr lannnnnnnoooooon k lyeeeee
Salam YA ALI MOULA A.S
bhai mera ye paigham in logon tak phonchado k ye website shia or dosrey firqon ko larwane ki sazish hey plzzz hamre shia bhai in logon ka koi reply mat dein ye baaz nhi aney wale kisi ko koi haq nhi phonchta k wo dosrey k mazhab k bare mein ungli uthaey
ye sb phudi k yahoodi hn mari jan ummattt Muhammdi alg hai thk ha ap ne to bat krdi peace ki pr amal agr krngy to hum he krngy ye log kbi b nh qn k inho ne ehle e bait pe rehem nh kia to hum kon hoty hn jani bat ko zra samj muharam k dino ma n logo ki wja se ktna khhoon kharaba hota hai ap ki itla k lye yahi kafi hai
I agree with xain . Sorry that I hurt you. But app nay dekha na yahan hizbullah or ks khan jesy log bhi hain who creat anger. I also love all. I also want peace. I have friends from all sects and no body says kafir to anyone . I also want unity. I also disapprove hurting anyone.
Dear safeer it’s very simple stop saying ill about sahaba this is the root cause of confrontation between Sunnis and Shias.it is obvious if u say bad about sahaba how could u even expect that they will respect u.1990 se pehle ap ki majlis ma ap se ziada Sunni hote thae muharm k jalos ma Sunni Shia se ziada hote thae sabilain ap k leye Sunni lgate thae aj bi ap k joloso k kae routs sunion k nam hn kbi ye socha ha k ye log ap se dor kyo hoe Internet k aam hone or bht sa literature jis ma sahaba ko bura kha jata tha ye reasons hn is confrontation ki main ap logon ki ye moral duty ha k more than90% k jazbat ka ahtram kro hn agr ap unko ni mante to na mano bt is trha se bura bi to na kho na.ap sahaba ko kafir murtid kho ge to jawab ma wo apko kafir murtid khte hn ye to unka reaction ha or fitri ha zahr ha jawab ma wo pholon k Haar to ni pehnain gae na yehi is lrai ki main reason ha baki kisi ka ap se property ka masla thori ha think like educated Shia allama jawad naqvi jaise logo ko apna role modle bnao Shia Sunni ka msla hamesha k leye khatm ho jae ga.
To Xain…..Sab se pehlay tu aap ka shukriya k is platform pe aap who sunni personal hu jis nay aqal ki baat ki hai…Xain aap behshq page 1 pe ja k KS KHAN kay pehlay messages dekh lou k us nay kis terha k remarks hamaray imamon k baray main kahay hain aur merey shuro k reply bhi perh lou main her tarike se in ko proper aur valid answers diyeah hain but yeah loug khas tour pe KS KHAN HIZBULLAH AUR UMER apnay demagh ki khud ki banai hui baat ko is messenger pe likh detay hain aur phir zahir hai k ghussa tu aaye ga…agar aap k community k liyea jis main aap ki maa behanon ko badnaam kiya jaye aur who bhi us mahinay main jo hamaray liyeah intahai mutabar hu aur us mahinay ki majalis e aza k baray main ganday ganday alfaaz likhna tu kisi bhi ghairat mand ko ghussa a jaye ga any way thanks again…
2nd yeah k aap nay MUTTA ki jo baat k merey bhai main kasam kha k kehta hun k MUTTA k hawalay se aap logon ko buhat misunderstandings hain agar aap kahu tu main aap ko valid link mail ker sakta hun main aap ko force nahi ker raha is cheez pe lakin sirf mera maqsad yeah hai k kuch aesi realities hain jo aap logo ko nahi pata agar aap kahu gay tu main link mail ker dun ga magar us ko apna dil aur dimagh saaf ker k perhna…
TO KS KHAN AUR HIZBULLAH AAP ko aap k ganday ilzamon ka jawab mil gaya hai jo aap hi k hum maslak bhai nay diya hai kuch sharam karo agar hai tu warna chullo bhar paani main doub k mar jao aur allah se muaafi mango tum sab loug…
To Umer…Pehli baat yeah k tum pichlay saare messages main mere ya kisi bhi shia k yeah baat sabit kerdo k tumharey sahaba ko hum ney kafir kaha…ghalat baat mat kiya karo,,khud ghalat baat kertay hu aur hum pe ilzaam lagatay hu…jahan tak baat shia sunni fisaad ki hai tu yeah sab ziaull haq k dour main start hua tha us nay sunni aur shia fisaad start kerwaya tha….aur jaha tak baat aap mijority ki hai tu aaj meri baat yaad rakhna tum
1)Pakistan main leading community sunnis hain aur minority shias hain jis country main majority huti hai un ki responsibilities huti hain k who minority ka khayal rakhain..jesay Iran main huta hai tum main se kisi nay Iran ki examples di thin uper Iran main 95% shias hain aur rest of 5% sunnis hain aaj tak kabhi yeah nahi hua k sunnis ke saath kisi shia nay ghalat kiya kyn k wahan k shais fisaadi nahi hain aur who buhat khayal rakhtay hain sunnis ka…
2)..Zia ul haq k period se pehlay juloos wagera main majority shion ki hi huti thi han sunnis jo hutay thay who halke k security wagera aur halkay ko cover ker k chaltay thay….Tumhay pata hai k nahi k aik famous situation hai jo zia ul haq k dour ki hai zia ul haq nay shion ko challenge kiya tha k moharrum main jo bhi ziarat aur majalis k liye niklay ga us ko maar diya jaye ga aur saath hi yeah bhi kaha tha k ab main dekhta hun k shion main kitna dam aur pyar hai hussain say next day pura city shion se bhar gaya tha jab us nay helicopter se survey kiya tu us waqt k army chief ko hukam diya tha k in shio per bomb bari ker do jis per army chief kay yeah alfaaz thay “sir aap ka dimagh sahi hai aap mdekhay tu sahi jaloos ka pura shaher hai agar bombari ki tu pura shaher tabah hu jaye ga…
jahan tak baat sahib karam ko maaanay ki hai hum mantay hain lakin sirf un sahaba ko jinhun nay real main hazoor se mohabbat ki…aap se request hai k hum se pls aap apnay sahaba k baray main kuch nahi sawal karo kyn k ham umko nahi mantay aur na manay gay please request hai…
next yeah k yeah baat kisi bhi tarike se sabit nahi huti k agar hum sahaba ko bura kahin tu hum kafir..kyn k kafir who huta hai jo khuda aur rasool pe emaan na rakhay….that’s it
Dear alishan kazmi pehli bt to ap ne kha k ap sahaba ko ni mante to dear apko kn khta ha k ap sahaba ko Mano na ap k manne ya na manne se unk maqam ma koi farak ane Wala ha ma to ye keh rha hn k more than 90% log Allah or Nabi k bd Abu bakr Umer Usman Ali ko ahmiat dete hn ap logo ko majority k aqaid ki respect krte hoe morally un k bare ma galat ni kehna chahiae openly neither in literature nor u should upload those videos ap dil ma Jo kho kisi ko us se aitraz ni bt openly ni ap ne kha k ap kafir ni khte Shia ki books bhari pari hn agr chaho to I can qout ref ab Jo Sunni ap ko kafir khte hn wo aik reaction ha ab ye galat ha ya thek aik alag behs ha ap un k muqadseen ko kafir likhte ho wo reaction ma un sahaba Jin ko wo itna muqadas khte hn unki aqeedt ma wo apko kafir khte hn this is natural ap unko galat khna chor do openly wo apko kafir khna chor dain gae kisi k muqadseen ko bura khna jawab ma reaction ko expect na krna peace ki bt krna Bhai Chare ki bt krna ye to ajeeb si bat ni.
un ka moqam ho tw na dear paro apni bokhari ma k hazor SAW ny kaha tha k fatima A.S mera tokra ha jis ny isy nazar kia us ny mujy gazabnak kia aur usi bokhari ma ha k fatima ko virsa nh dia ap k suhaba ny aur kaha k nabi ny kaha tha k hamara virsa nh huta hamara maal sadka huta ha ap k suhaba ko dean ka tw itna pata tha quran ma ha k haroon waris hua musa ka tw kia ya ALLAH k nabi nh thy is k bad ap k suhaba ny bibi fatima A.s ka ghar jalaya aur zakhmi kia ap naraz rahi yahan tk k wafat hu gai ya ap ki bokhari ma tw Muhammad SAW suhaba sy khush nh hu sakty .is lia ya jahanmi ha suhaba i samj tumhari apni books ma ha jao dekho
Dear alishan apne zia ul haq k dour ka incident qout Kia for Ur information 1976 se 1988 tak zia khud army chef tha logically apki bt galat ha k us ne kisi army chef ko order Kia agr wo pure mulk ki haqumat gira sakta ha to aik city pe bomb girana us k leye masla ni tha.ap log pak ki history prho ye to common si batain hn u should know about them.secondly Iran k Sunni ki bt ki ap ne to my dear ap Iran k Sunni representative ni u can’t bi right in this matter YouTube pe dekho apko PTA chal jae ga waha sunnio k sath Kia hota ha credit sunnio ko jata ha wo shia majority k aqaid ko openly bura ni khte isi ka ye mtlb ni wo un k aqaid se mutfiq hn bt unity k leye wo openly kush ni khte yehi bt hm pak ma tm Shia se expect krte hn.kisi ko manna na manna ap ka right ha but isko le k kisi ki infact majority ki dil azari krna ye knsi aqalmandi ha pak ma Shia Sunni rift khtm krne ka aik hi tariqa ha khulfa e rashdeen ki respect wo chahe tm log taqia hi kyo na kro bt peace or unity sirf isi Surat possible ha agr ap unko bura kho expect kro Sunni ankhain band kr lain to ye to possible ni ha my dear be realistic agr sach ma ap peace chahte ho my dear rest is up to u.
umer aap nay kaha k iran main sunni nay koi aesa kaam nahi kiya hai k jis se shion aur sunni k darmiyan koi ikhtalaf hu bhai hamaray jitney bhi mujtahaydin hain baray baray who sab Iran main hain un ko bhi major ikhtalaf ka pata hai lakin who in sab cheezon ko chairtay nahi hain taa k sunni main aur shion main ikhtalaf paida hu is main aap k sunni ka koi kamal nahi balke hamaray shion ka kamal hai kyn k k jahan par majority htui hai us ki zimmaydari huti hai k who minority kay haq ka khayal rakhey aur second yeah k Pakistan main majority sunnis ki hai aur minority shion k tu mujhai yeah batao k shion nay aesa kuon sa kaam kiya hai jis ki waja se aye din un ka qatal e aam huta hai…jab shia quetta se iran jatay hain tu rastay main un ko basus se nikal kar golion se channi kiya jata hai madrason main khas tour pe yeah address kiya jata hai hai shia ko marna sawab hai,,HUM 9 AUR 10 MUHARRAM KO AIK MUNAZZAM JALOOS NIKALTAY HAIN NAWASY E RASOOL KA TU PURI PLANNING HUTI HAI HALANK HUM KISI KO KUCH NAHI KEHTAY QUETTA MAIN ROUZ SHION KO KAAT KAAT K PHAINK DIYA JATA HAI PRIVATE AKHBARON MAIN AUR PUMFILAT MAIN KHAS TOUR PER YEAH LIKHA JATA HAI K SHIA KAFIR IN KO MARO…KYN BHAI AESA KIYA KER DIYA SHION NAY HUM JO KUCH BHI KERTAY HAIN WOH KHUD K LIYEAH KERTAY HAIN AAP KO TU KUCH NAHI KEHTAY PHIR HUM PE ITNA ZULM KYN????YAHAN KI MAJORITY HAI US KI ZIMMAYDARI HAI K WOH MINORITY KA KHAYAL RAKHAY YAHAN SHION KO ROUZ MARA JA RAHA HAI 86 LAASHAY RAKH KER PUR AMAN TARIKAY SE WOH LOUG EHTAJAAJ KERTAY HAIN JIN KO YEAH PATA HAI K HAMARA JAWAN BHAI BETA SHUHAR MARA GAYA AUR KISI DOOSRAY KO NUKSAAN NAHI PUHANCHATAY TU BHI CHIEF JUSTICE OF PAKISTAN KOI ACTION NAHI LETA TUMHARA MOULVI AURANGZAIB FAROOGI COURT MAIN SARAY AAAM YEAH KEHTA HAI K MAIN NAY SHION KO QATAK KIYA HAI TAB BHI TUMHARA LUDHYANVI AUR TAHIR ASHARFI AUR SAB SE BARI BAAT CJP US KO CHUR DETAY HAIN….AESI NA INSAAFI KI JATI HAI SHION K SAATH….AUR AIK BAAT SUNO TUM MERI KISI KISAM KA NUKSAN TUMHARAY SUNNIS KAY SAATH NAHI HUA IRAN MAIN US KA SABOUT YEAH HAI K AAJ BHI IRANI PRESIDENT K PEECHAY PORI QOUM HAI IRAN KO PAKISTAN KAY HALAT AUR WAHAN K SHION AUR SUNNI KAY DARMIYAN RELATIONS KO YAHAN SE MATCH MAT KARO AUR MERA DIMAGH MAT KHARAB KARO AUR TUM…..TUM SAARI COMMUNITY KAY PAAS BHI ITNA SABAR NAHI JITNA HAMARAY PAAS HAI AUR YEAH SABIT KIYA HAMARAY QUETTA KAY SHION NAY…TUMHARAY HAAN AIK JAWAN BETA MARA JATA HAI TU US K GHAR WALAY US KI LAASH SARAK PER RAKH KER ROAD TU BLK KERTAY HI HAIN SAATH SAATH TOUR PHOUR BHI HUTI HAI…..
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Dear Alishan tm kisi k ma ya baap ko gali do to log Marne Marne pe a Kate hn itni choti se bt pe ktne qatl hoe hn tm bi jante ho bt yaha to aik ki ni pure muslman Kia ko apni maa khte hn un ko galia di jati hn sahaba Jin ko log khuda Nabi k bd makam dete hn unko galian di jati hn yaha to mazhab ka msla ha jis k leye log ktne mrne pe a jate hn my dear ye itna sensitive issue ha ap ktni asan explanation de rhe ho hr mazhab ma aise log hote hn Jo mazhabi shidat pasand hote hn ok ab ye btao k Shia logon ne sipha e sahaba k logo ko ni Mara Kia Aurangzeb farooqi pe qatilana hamla krne wale 5 log Jo arrest hoe hn wo Shia ni hn?kia sipha e Mohammad Shia ki tashadod pasand organization ni ha jA k unki website dekho Shia ko sipha e sahaba kafir khti ha Kia isi wja se Shia ne un k logo ko ni Mara ? Ye aik fitri bt ha dear isi trha tm un ki maa ko un k muqadseen ko kafir kho wo tmko ni marain gae Kia? Laskar e jhangvi or sipa e Muhamad dono side ki terror organizations ni hn Kia? Kia tm ko ni PTA India ma aik cow ko ziba krne pe ktne muslmano ko mara majority ka aqaid ka ahtram ni ho ga to reaction bi yehi ho ga na ab koi meri ya apki trha to ni Jo debete or argument pe believe krte hn.
Dear alishan chalo ab ma ap ko Iran k sunnio ki halat e zar btata hn jaisa ma ne pehle kha pure Tehran ma aik bi Sunni masjid ni Christian k leye church hn Jews k leye un ki ibadat ga ha Kia Sunni insan ni??Pakistan k Kis city ma apki imam bargah ni ha btao??unki cabnat ma aik minister aik ambassador Sunni ni bn sakta btao kyo??? Kia Pakistan ka president bashmar minister beshumar senators ambassadors Shia ni?? Tehran ma Sunni ko eid ki namaz alag prhane pe pabandi ni lgai gai ??? Kia Pakistan ma eid ki namaz Shia ko alag prhane se kisi ne roka ??? Kia Shia mosque pe security ni hoti??? Iran ma sunnio ko basic mazhabi azadi ni govt ko represent krne ka right ni knsi facilities di hn unko ??? Yaha Kia ni ha ap logo k pas??? Majlis kro jaloos nikalo koi rokta ha??? Now tell me who is better Iran k Sunni ya Pakistan k Shia??
Dear alishan I live in uk ma yaha Christians ko bura ni keh skta bec yaha unki majority ha bt is ka mtlb ye ni k ma Christianity ko thek samjta hn infact ye mera ikhtaqi farz ha k ma un k aqaid ki respect Krn in speech in literature bec of their majority.India k muslman waha cow ziba ni krte mtlb ye ni k waha cow haram ha bt majority k aqaid ka ahtram farz ha Bhagwan ko Muslim bura ni khte na speech ma na literature ma mtlb ye ni k wo Hinduism ko right khte hn sirf majority ki wja se.israil ma Jews ko Muslim bura ni khte not in literature not in speech maqsad majority k aqaid ka ahtram krna ha.isi trha Iran k Sunni Shia ko literature ye speech ma bura ni khte is ka ye matlb ni k wo shiaism ko thek mante hn wja sirf majority k aqaid ka ihtram ha ab aate hn Pakistan ma Shia sirf 5%hn 95%ka sahaba ko speech ma literature ma kafir murtid tak khte hn galia tak dete hn Kia yaha Shia ka koi moral duty ni??? Ye majority ka aqaid ka ahtram farz ni?? Ye sb kush kr k claim krte ho k apko marte kyo hn kafir kyo khte hn ??? Kia ye kisi normal insan ki aqal taleem Krti ha my dear ye to wohi bt ho gai aik chori uper se seena zori.rehe bt zia ul haq ki ap ne kha k zia ne apne dour ma army chef ko order dia mane to apko correct Kia k wo khud us waqt army chef tha.baki wo jaisa tha ye hamara subject ni waise dictator koi bi ho mulq k leye thek ni hota.
Asool e Kafi (Marrat Al Aqool page 395) Umer ra na jihad kia aur Sher Bano jo ka Zain Al Abdeen aur Ali Akber ki walida the, londi bana kar Iran sa la kar ayay, aur Hussain ra sa nikah kara dia aur Ali ki mojodgi ma, Ab app loog farmaiay ka app to Umer ra ko kafir kaytay hain, ab is Nikah ka baray ma app kia kahty hain, jo aik kafir na karwaia, aur app ki muqadas kitab ka hawala ha, jawab ka muntazir hoon. Mashah allah Umer my hero app ko Allah app ki umer draz karay. Ma khud Iran gia hoon next ap ko sunion ki halat e zar bataoon ga.
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Mairi un sab Ahl e Sunnat se aik humble request he k please idhar wahabi deobandi ahle hadees and bralvee ki bahas mat chairo. Ap ahle sunnat sirf apnay sahaba k maqam bayan ker do to ap kamyab ho. waisay LUBP ko sheea hazrat ki support main hi likhna hota he. ap inki posts check kertay rahain apko pta chal jae ga. Umer bhai ap k jawab bahut achay hain ap daleel se baat kertay hain hyper nhe hotay gali ka istamal nhe kertay ALLAH apko jaza day ga.
Ahle tashee hazrat us masjid k qareeb se bhi guzarna pasand nhe kertay jiska name umer abubakar ya usman hota he aur jaloos bhi wahan se nhe guzartay apna. Aik elaqay ki baat he k 8 moharram ya 9 ko exact mujhay pta nhe Ahl e tashee nay is martaba apni majlis main umer (R.A.) ki shan main gustakhi ki aur uski tayyar kerda vedeo 2 din tak cable network pe chalti rahi maqami pe. inka jaloos jub shahar se guzra to umer R.A k poster aur banners shaher main lagay hoe thay to sheea jaloos nay poster banner phar dalay aur unhain jootyan marin. us se pichlay saal inhoon nay kuttay k galay main sahaba (umer abubakar usman) R.A. k name likh k dalay aur sath sath lye phirtay rahay. Ae Ahle tashee batao tum dahshat gard kon he aur aman pasand kon he? Aik sheea zakir kah raha tha k sunni hazrat Abuhuraira ki baat kertay hain us abubakar ko to apnay baap ka pta nhe tha naoozobillah.
Bibi Fatima u zahra (R.A) ki namaz e janaza parhanay ka waqt aya to Hazrat Ali nay khaleefa a Awwal Hazrat Abubakar (R.A)se namaz e janaza parhanay ki darkhast ki. ap na Hazrat Ali se parhanay ka kaha. Hazrat Ali (R.A.) nay Hazrat Abubakar se kaha k ap khaleefa e waqt hain ap parhaen to janaza Hazrat Abubakar nay parhaeee. (main nay mafhoom bataya exact words ka mujhay pta nhe he. nachor baat ka yahi he)
shan bhai i am also very much buzy these days. inshAllah jald he sab questions k answers deny k liay i will also be back. wesy aik baat hai or wo yay k jo log jahil hoty hain na or apni baat ko prove nahi kar sakty even k apni hi books say he, jesy k sipah e shaba, lashkar e jhangvi etc wo log he asy hoty hain jo qatal o gharat pay believe karty hain. thats my reply to Hizbullah khan. agar koi kisi sahabi ko bura keh raha hai tu oss k pass koi tu asi baat hai jis ki waja say wo bura keh raha hai. app oss ki baat suno or agar app samajhty ho k wo glt keh raha hai tu osko prove kar do k wo glt keh raha hai. simple. yay kahan ka asool hai k meri baat mano nai tu marny k liay tyar ho jao. civilized people never believe is qatal o gharat. only jahils or abu jahils believe in it. abb dekho na wo jo aaj kal sab say bara islam ka thekydar bana hoa hai malik ishaq, oss ki education kia hai. he is a drop out before sixth grade and i believe that he is not a dropout by choice like Bill Gates :). abb jo banda iss darjy ka jahil ho ga tu wo tu qatal e gharat e kary ga na. osko tu yay bhi nahi pata hona k jis insan ki baton main aa k i mean Jhangi, wo yay sara qatal o gharat kar raha hai oss k peechay oska baap zia ul haq tha. or yay sara beej zia ka hee boya hoa hai jis ki waja say Pakistan iss dor say guzar raha hai.
Ahmed no one wants chaos. All of us want peace. but tell me k yay sab gustakhi shura kahan say hoi hai. jis mavia nay Hazrat Ali (AS) k shan main gustakhian ki app log osko sahabi kehty ho or agar ham Mavia ko bura keh dain tu ham kafir. agar ham kafir hain tu oss insan ka kia status ho ga jis nay Nabi (SAWW) ki shan main gustakhian ki. oss insan ka kia status ho ga jis nay Ahl e Bait(AS) ko takleefain dein. onn logon pay baat aaey tu wo sahaba ka aapas ka matter hai. or agar ham keh dain kuch tu ham kafir. kia baat hai.
Dear safeer aza jahil kn ha uncivilized kon ha chalo apka apni allama jawad naqvi Kia khta ha suno zanjeer zni and Shia ki bdnami. Dunia ki most uncivilized logo se milaya jA rha ha tmko suno zra yani civilization Jin k pas se ni guzri apko logo k mu se jahil acha ni lgta my dear suno or apni eyes open kro and I appreciate people like allama jawad naqvi hr insan ki soch aise ho to ikhtlafat khatm ho jain.mjhay ye samj ni ati tm log hyper kyo ho jate ho daleel se bt kro Jo saval ha uska jawab do rehe bt sahaba ki wo galat hn ya thek is ka certificate hmain ap logo se ni chahiae.books Jo tm log. Khte ho na reference se bt kro.common scence ki bt ha ap log India ma kisi Hindu se kho k tmara Bhagwan galat ha mere khayal 7se km pieces ni kre ga khne wale k aqida galat ha ya thek ye bd ki bt ha phele ap ki moral duty ha k majority wo bi more than 90% ki aqaid ki respect ap ka farz ha.and tell me tehriq e jafria and sipa e Muhammad kyo ban hn bec unko bi terrorist activities ki wja se ban Kia Gaya ha Kia ye jhot ha??? Ya ye bi jahil gawar hn baqool ap k??? My dear logic se bt kro kisi k muqadseen ka nam likh k kuttey k gale ma dalna ye lgta ha ap ne Oxford university se sikha ha na Jo dusro ko jahil khte ho ab btao isi se ziada jahliat or kia ho gi toilets ma nam lekhe jati hn ye knsi education ha btao??? Ye sb kush dekh k log ankian band kr lain?? Kisi ko ni manna na mano bt ye chep hrktain kr k ap apne apko knse civilised sabit krna chahte ho btao??tm log kisi ka lehaz ni kro ge to btao ye kaise tawaqo krte ho k koi tm logo ka lehaz kare??naam wala incident pechley muharm jhang ma hoa phir is k bd Jo hoa wo puri dunia janti ha ye hrktain kr k ap log Shia killing ko justify ni kr rhe ho Kia??? My dear mazhab aik bht sensitive issue jis k leye log mar bi jate hn or maar bi dete hn. Hr koi hmare trha debete ya argument pe ni jata or ye aik fitri bat ha..
Dear Omer i sincerely agree with many of the things that you said. but does it mean that whatever i am saying is wrong? sipah e Muhammad (SAWW) q bani. tell me. it was a response to siph e sahaba. tell me k sipah e Muhammad (SAWW) nay kitny khud kush hamly kiay. kityny bomb phary. or han yay 90% wali baat na kia karo abb app. ham over 5 coror hain in Pakistan. or jahan tak app logon ka taluq hai tu suno app mai kai factions hain or sab ki masjidain tak alag alag hain or koi kisi dosry k peechay namaz tak parhnay ko tyar nahi hai. but in spite of all these things i respect all those sunnis either they are deobandis or brelvis or belong to any other faction who respect us. i respect you because you respect us. but what about people like KS Khan or Hizbullah. yay no body wants bloodshed. i want peace. you want peace but these are some who dont.
Al Giaba Lil Tusi page 74′ Al Arshad Lil Mufeed page 304, these are shia books, written, Immam Hassan Askari jub footh (died) huway to un ki koi ulad nahi thi, aur na hi un ki wafat ka waqat un ki koi bewi ya londi hamila thi, Jub un ki koi ulad nahi thi to 12th Immam ko kasay man lain,
KS khan ja k apni he bokhari parh lo. wahan say tumhain 12th imam k bary main hawaly mil jaen gay. kesy jahil log ho yar tum wo jo ulti seedhi batain karny lag jaty ho. app log shion g aqaid ko challenge q nahi kar dety kisi bhi adalat main. app logon ko bohat shoq hai na shia ko kafir kehny ka tu kisi bhi adalat main shion k aqaid pay case kar do. agar yeh bhi possible nahi tu yar koi tehreek hi chala lo taky app ko shia ka kafir sabit karny ka moqa mil jea. q nahi karty ho. agar yay bhi nahi possible tu shion ko manazra k liay e bula lo. suno KS sirf shia he nahi Sunni bhi 12th imam pay believe karty hain. mje tu yay he samaj nahi aa rahi k aakhir tum ho kon.
Dear safeer I highly appreciate ur views about peace.secondly you asked k sipha e Muhammad kyo bani defiantly sipha e sahaba k reaction pe I do agree with you but ab mera ye saval ha sipha e sahaba kyo bani ?? Akhir sipa e sahaba bnane ki zarort kyo pari??I hope u will give me the answer.baki you kno better k Pakistan ma raw musad CIA Pakistan ko destabilized krne ki koshish ma hn wo bi Pakistan ma bht kush kr rhe hn ab ache bure log bi HR jaga hote hn chae wo sipa e Shaba ho ya tehreeq e jafria sipa e Muhamad or lashkar jhangvi Kia kr rhe hn ye bi kisi se chupi bt ni ha bt I believe jis ne aik insan katl Kia usne puri insaniat katl ki ab wo chahe koi bi ho.rhe bt supreme court Jane ki my dear as I mentioned earlier Pakistan ma parlimani system ha yaha constitution ma Jo hota ha supreme court unko galat ni keh skti unless ap national assembly ma bill le k aao waha se prove ho phir constitution ma amendment ho skti ha ab jaise qadiani ko 1974 ma national assembly k session ma unanimously kafir declare Kia Gaya ap direct supreme court ma kisi ko kafir ya Muslim declare ni kr sakte you have to approve the bill from national assembly and later on senate as well.ab ap ma se kise ne ye bi kha k supreme court ma hmare Shia ulma ne qadianio ko kafir declare krwaya ab ye bt technically bilkul galat ha chek the Internet where it was declared in supreme court or national assembly.rhe bt sect ki to dear imamia Ismaili zaidi nuseri Druze ye Shia k sect ni hn Kia?? In ma bi ikhtlafat ni hn Kia??ab finally Shia ki percentage ki bt look hmare pas koi aisa source ni k Shia ko count kr skain easy way ha k ap percentage janne k leye us sect ki masajid or dusre ki masajid ko count kr lo agr ye 100%ni to 90%ap ko correct counting de gi like christains ki church aik city ma ktne hn n Muslim ki masajid christains ki population ma percentage mil jae gi and it is clear k Shia percentage less than 10ha.
Dear omer, sipah e sahaba was formed to counter the effects of Iranian revolution. The 2nd answer is that neseri are not from us not the ismaialis, and druzes and zaidis, i am just talking about the 12 followers. the third answer is that do you really think that Shias are kafir. if you think than just tell me the definition of a Muslim dear. What is the definition of a muslim?
the main problem that i am facing at present is that my papers are approaching and for that purpose i am very much buzy.. but dear once i am free than we will chat a lot and will try to understand each other because till when we do not understand eachother we will never be able to live peacefully together. and i want to live in peace.
Mr,Safeer e ezza ya jo ma na shia ki kutab say hawala dia, app ko qabool nahi, Bukharai Sharif ka app na hawala dia, chalo Bukhari Sharif ko app harf b harf correct tasleem karnay ka aylan kar dain, to ma app ko isi waqat kafir sabit kar doon ga,
Dear safeer what definition you are asking about as every sect every scholar defines Muslim in their own way or you are talking about the one in constitution of Pakistan? Well if u r asking my definition of Muslim I personally of the opinion Muslim is one who believe in Islam exactly as it is and no ifs,ands or buts about it.and u replied about the formation of sipha e sahaba that it is formed to counter the revolution in Iran .after the revolution in Iran a lot of literature that came from Iran was repleted with derogatory remarks about sahaba that was the root cause which resulted in formation of sipa e sahaba which is more a reaction than a proper organization
i am asking about the definition of muslim simple definition. and whatever you are saying about the iranian revolution is just a false accusation. I respect your Muqadasats. every sane and literate Shia respects the beliefs of our sunni brothers. Sipah e Sahaba was formed by Zia ul haq. and the second things is that as you said that i was a reaction that why it was only a reaction from Deobandis. because barelvi sunnis donot own sipah e sahaba. it is owned by Deobandis and probably Ahl e Hadith too. Sipah e Sahaba is not only involved in killing Shias but Sunni brelvis as well. I do not who will tell these people that you cannot force your opinion on anyother person as There is no Jabr in Islam.
Also dear Umer this was my last message on LUBP till march. I will come back now by 10th of march as my papers are going to start from 23rd feb. take care.
Dear safeer firstly I wish u all the very best fr Ur exams and u r very true to the extent that sipha e sahaba is formed by deoband sect bt this is the voice of Sunnis of all the sects as far as sahaba are concerned they do not attach themself with ssp because of their differences with deobands if you watch you tube you will find Sunnis of all sects are unanimous on their stance on sahaba as sahaba are equally dear to all Sunni sects.I don’t agree with you when you say all Sunnis are involved in Shia killing man there are hardly hundreds who believe in killing bt we don’t even consider them Muslims because this is not the solution of the matter and again I really appreciate ur views if u respect our muqadseen because insulting muqadseen of someone’s sect is worst thing,didn’t you hear the famous saying”talwar ka zakham bhr jata ha zuban ka ni” take cr.
Hum muslims ko islam ka correct way say hata kar ajeeb o greeb chezoo ma ulja dia gia ha, islam aik seda sada deen ha, ok let me say if someone asked let us say my father, who is in your house hold for example. He would have replied, i have a wife three children and two grand children, would u expect him to say, i have a daughter and two grand children and a sun in law? and this is my house hold.
where is the wives, kia yay mannay wali bat ha, yay kisi ki insult nahi ha, but i want claification, Qurran e Majeed ma ahl al bayit gar waloon ko kaha gia ha, All e Ibrahim ma be Ibrahim AS ki wife ko mukhatab kia gia ha,
اوّل تو یہ کہ شیعہ اس بات کا تعین کریں کہ وہ مسلمان ہیں ۔ کس بات پر مسلمان ہیں ۔ کلیمہ،قرآن،حدیث،صحابہ کرام وغیرہ ۔ ،۔ ۔۔۔ ۔ ۔ ۔۔ ۔ ۔ مثلاً کون سی باتوں پر عمل کرکے شیعہ مسلمان ہیں۔ اور اگر مسلمان نہیں تو پھر اسلام کے بارے میں ان سے بات نہیں ہونی چاہییے۔ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr_KNv29LRg
یہ ایک مناظرہ کی ویڈیو ہے جس میں اہل تشیع نے دعوٰی کیا تھا کہ وہ قران کو مانتے ہیں صحابہ کرام کو مانتے ہیں وغیرہ وغیرہ اس ویڈیو کو الٹراسرف کے ذریعے دیکھیں ۔ اس ویڈیو کو دیکھنے کے بعد بحث کی کوئی گنجائش باقی نہیں رہتی ۔ اگے کسی دل چاہے مانے یا نہ مانے اس ویڈیو کے تین حصے ہیں ULTRA SURF
Jaanty ho aaj ek European blog par discussion ho rhi thi ….to ek french ny kaha k agr tum Muslims ko phir say arooj mil b jai to tum apas main apny sect ki jang larty larty mar jao gy ….
conflict of opinion har ek ka hota hai ..lakin ksi ko gali nikalna or ya phir ksi ko Kafir kah dena dono hi ghalat hain …jo koi Allah or us k Rasool (SAWW) ko manta hai or khatam e nabuvvat ko b vo muslim hai …baqi har ek k amaal us k sath ….lakin ek baat ..aap log agr ksi ko sahabi nhi manty to its ur opinion i have no objection on that but ksi ki mukhalfat main ikhlaq ko bhool jana sahi nahi ….or agar ksi ko Shia commnunity say koi ikhtilaaf hai to yah us ka right hai but un ko yah un k Imaam ko gali dena ghatiya tareen baat hai ….whtever ur sect is ..just one thing ..respect for all hate for none….coz its hard to love but easy to hate ….
i wish k aap samjho or is behas ko khtam karo …
Dear daniyal apne bht khubsurti se Shia ko defend Kia ma apki bt se itfaq krta hn k ap k immam ko gali ni deni chahiae dear apne ye to btaya ni k sahaba k bare ma ap ka Kia khayal ha unko gali dene k leye ikhlaq Kia khta ha??? Tell me one thing ap reaction ko kyo dekhte ho action ko kyo ni??? Bemari ki shidat ko dekhte ho bemari ko kyo ni??? Aik insan k gale ma infection ha jis ki waja se usko bukhar ha doctor bukhar ka ilaj kare gale ka infection ni to Kia bukhar utr jae ga??? Log Shia ko kafir khte hn ye to apko bht bura lga Jo aik reaction ha bemari ha bt is ki waja apko buri ni lgi sahaba ko gali dena um ul momneen ki toheen krna is k leye apne kush ni kha Jo action ha or bemari ki waja. Yes apka right ha k jis ko Mano na Mano bt galian dena tohmt lgana logon ki jzbat se khelna ye knsa ikhlaq ha??? Bhai action khatm kr do reaction khatm ho jae ga bemari ki waja khatm kr do bemari khatm ho jaw gi. Ok if u Shia really want peace here is a suggestion for u ap log national assembly ma aik bill le k aao namoos e sahaba namoos e ahle Bait or jin ko ap immam mante ho k Jo koi bi in ma se kisi ki toheen ka murtkib ho ga usko moat ki saza di jae believe me Shia Sunni ki lrai khatm ho jae gi dear ap sirf Shia ki bt kr rhe ho I personally of the opinion k kisi k muqadseen chae wo Shia ho Sunni ho hindu ho Christian ho ya kisi bi religion ka ho uski toheen ni krni chahiae.
Umer my hero, app yaqeen karin ma iran gia, is sa pahlay hum 4 loog irani embesy ma visa ka lia paper submit kiay, maray sath aik admi tha gis ka nam Umer tha, us ka pasport objection laga kar wapis kar dia, anyhow hum teen log iran gayay for ten days, ma little farsi bi janta tha, app yaqeen karna ka iran ka suni muslim ki halat jo ma na dakhi ma bohat roaia, koi musjid nahi bana saktay jub tak musjid ka baher Ali Wali Allah na likha ho, sunion ko iran ma iskader tang kia ja raha ha ka wo apna deen choor dain, hum 4 din ka bad wapis a gayay, ab ap insaf karo jab hum in shia ko jo sirf 5% hain in ki ajara dari aur budmashi dakhtay hain to dil ma gussa nahi ayay ga k 25% irani suni kasay zindagi guzar rahay hain, maray swal galat nahi hain bulkay haqeeqat ha, ma ashiq e rusool hoon, aur sahaba ka gulam hoon, ab jo maray sahaba ko gali da ga to kiya ma un ka immams ko achah boloon ga, app na bi swal kia tha ka Ali ra na 25 sal tak 3 kulfa e rashdeen ka pechay namaz ada ki, un ko agar koi objectin nahi tha to ab in logoon ko kuain takleef ho rai ha, khulafa rashdeen kay wazir bi rahay, musheer bi rahay, un sa salary bi latay rahay, ager objectin tha to alan e jihad karty, lakin wo khush thay,aur un say cooprate karty rahay, sub sa big proof ha k Nubi e Pak saw ki bimari ma Abu Baker na namaz parhai jis ka hukam khud Hazoor saw na dia, Ali ra ko hukam kuain nahi dia, immamat sub aik drama ha jo Abdullah bin saba ka rachia hua drama ha, aik aur bat kisi shia na is ka jawab nahi dia, tum loog (ya ali mudded kaytay ho, ali mushkal kushah kaytay ho) jub ibn e muljam jo ka Ali ra ka shia tha un ko qatal kia to wo apna defance kuain na kar sakay, Allah ka wastay Ali ra ko un ki had ma ranay do, us ko Allah ka darja mut do,
To:K S Kuta,Aby agar ali a.s apne ap ko saheed hone se bachate to kon tha jo ali a.s ko sheed karta, or hazrat ali a.s ko shadat ka rutba kaise milta or huzoor saw ne khud hazrat ali a.s ko un ke katil ke bare me bataya tha,jahil ki uolad zara samjh se kam lo.tumhe pata nhi hai kya, k tum kin immaon ke bare me bura kahte ho,(Imam a.s hazrat muhammad saw ke ulad or un ke nasal hai.)
Mr Unknown kia Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W.S) k daamad Hazrat Usman (R.A) ko gali daina theek he? kia Umer, Abubakar ko gali daina darust he? Kaha jata he k Musalman honay k lye ALLAH aur us k rasool ko man laina kafi he. Kia Ali (R.A.) ka inkar ker k aur Imam Hassan aur Hussain (R.A.) ko na maan k musalman rahta he koe?
Pakistan ki parliamaent ko chahye k woh aik law pass keray jis main Ahle bait aur sahaba ki toheen kernay walay ko saza di jae. Warna log sahaba aur ahl e bait pe tabarrah kertay rahayn gay.
Aby Unknown, kisi Muta ki padawar, kisi randi bazar ki Ulad, (ya zuban ma na sirf is ka alfaz ka jawab ma likhi ha, warna hum muslim ka shawa nahi) ab suno unknown, Ali ra ki ulad ko Hazoor e Pak saw ki ulad kahta ha, ap loog sirf Nubi e Pak ka nam istamal kar rahay hain, tumary khanzeer ulima kaytay hain ka wahi to Ali ra par ani thi par gulti say Jibrael e Ameen as na Mohammed saw par nazil kar di, doob maro o kafiroo, Kadiyani apna nia nabi la kar a gayay, aur tum loog Immam la kar a gayay, lanet ha tum doonoo par, Hussain ra ka qatal koon thay, Koofi aur Kofi koon thay Shia, ab un par Allah ki lanet nazar ati ha, apni shaklee dakh lo kia waqiee Allah ki lanet nahi ha, jis firqay ma Hafiz e Quran nahi us par Allah ki lanet nazer ati rahay gi qayamat taq, Usman ra ka qatiloo lanet ho tum par, Ya Allah Muddad, jo gar Allah sa Mudded mangay us ki ……………………., Ma Nubi ka nooker Nabi ka gulam. Jo gar Allah say mangay wo ibn ul haram
This discussion is over fatwa above…deobandis barelivis have no conflict. Masla minor nature ka hota hay. At many time deobandi baralvio ke masjid mein atay hein aur barelvi bhe deobandi ki masjido mein jatay hein. But the fact is all sunnis (80% popultation of pakistan) will not tollerate any disrespect of sahaba publically. How can u abuse a person who is resting beside prophet MUHAMMED.
We respect each and every words of Ghause Azam, aala hazrat Imam Ahmed raza….
Shia.. We support your cause of quetta it was a combine victory dont abuse all sunnis becoz u ppl also hold miscrents.
To KS khan, Omer bhai and all my dear brothers Suuni or Shia. i am coming back soon. and as far as i have concluded. instead of fighting ham sab ko jo k educated class say belong karty hain, ham sab ko mil kar iss sab ko band kar dena chahiay or mil k koi solution nikalna hoga. but as i said i willcome soon,till then app sab laro mat. ham sab ko mil kar jahan bhi kuch bhi galt hai oss ko khatam karna ho ga. my papers are starting from 23rd, please do pray for me. thanks
Safeer e Azza Allah ap ko exam ma kamyab kary, ap na bat drust ki, bus hum sahaba karam ra ki respect chahty hain, mut kisi ko gali do, sub kuch Allah ki adalat par choor do, wo insaf karnay wala ha, ap exam sa farig ho jaein insha allah pher bat ho gi,
Salam if any body abuse sahaba they r noon muslem. We declered qadiyani kafer because they told that wahi continue after mohameed(saw) on gulam ahmed. But shia openly says that all immam get order from jibrail (as). And also claim that immams r more than unbiya a karam ( as). Is this not kufar. U know why, because all tv chanels r mostly shia, all key post under shia hand, your president is shia, police is ful of shia, army also, i am asking my sunnis brothers please wake up and watch your muhallah and village, shia are injecting only 4 person show in our poor sunnis mind, lot of sunnis called Ya Ali Mudded, Ya Ali Mushkal Kasha, this is a slow posion, Is this not a crime that qadiyani claim wahi on only one man Gulam Ahmed, but shia saying whai coming on 12 immams ? And some of aur ulama says that shia r our brothers, like Taher Al Padri,
Safeer aza… You are right we must fight against those who potray our beloved MUHAMMED with cartoons. Hum iss baat pe kyun lartay hein kay aap shia ho mein sunni… Aakhrat mein sub pata chal jayega khatam baat. Shia and sunnis are brothers they live together… Han kuch jail log dono taraf hein… Majority saath rehna chati hay… Do u agree?
Noman Barelvi sahib, ap na kitnay aram sa bool dia ka shia suni brother hain, bahi sahib ya sar e amm Abu baker ra, Umer ra, Usman ra, aysha ra ko galian daty hain, pher be app in ko bahi boltay hain, qurran ko tabdeel shuda manty hain, pher ap in ko bahi boolty hain, apnay immamo ki aik bat nahi sunty, agar hum in ka immamoo ko apna immam man laty hain to pher hum ma ur in ma kia fark ra jata ha, Mohammed SAW pa hum apny jan bi qurban kar dain to ya hamari khush qismati ha, un ki gustakhi karnay wala dunia ma bi lanati ha aur akhrat ma bi jahanami, Allah Mudded baqi sab shirk aur biddat ha,
Bhai i know. Sahaba ko jo galian dete hein wo bohat kum hein. Yeh sub especially interior punjab ki vilages mein hota hay bro. Eik aad cases ko leke sub ko bura mat kaho becoz i live among them mere bhe dost shia hein but they will never say a word in fron of us. Balkey they also respect hazarat ayesha aur wo aun ki shaan mein ghustaaki nahe kartay. Han inn mein kuch log hein jo yeh kryay hein magar sub aisey nahe trust me bro.
My brother Noman Barelvi, ma taqreban 10 sal tak shia bun ka raha hoon, ma na iraq, iran, suryia, UAE, sudia, visit kia ha, app yaqeen karin sub jagha shia ka aik hi maqsad ha, toheen e sahaba, yad rakhian shia ma aik cheez ha,Taqia ,wo is ka istamal kartay hain, chalo app apnay shia friends sa aik swal karin ka, kia wo Khumini, Baqar Mujlasi, Qummi, Noor Allah Shostri, Quliyni, Al Jazairi, par lanant baeig saktay hain, in tamam Khanzeeroon na sahaba e karam ko iskadar badnam kia ha ka Allah ki panah, aur shia loog in sab ko apna sab kuch mantay hain, ya dogli policy munafiq sabit karti ha, jab hum Iran ja rahay thay to maray sathey jis ka nam Umer tha is ka viza reject kar dia, aur bro jo loog Ali ra ko khuda ka darja datay hoon wo sahaba ka aetram kasay karin, ya sub bugz e Muawia ha hub e Ali nahi,
Kskhan true salay bht mithy bnty h dagabaz hoty yai log
kskhan brother if ur in facebook send me msg shavezalam72@gmail.com
or bhai jisko shk ho yai sahaba ko bura nai bolty wo bht bdi bdgumani main h or
@nouman tum jesy he hmry sahaba k bary main bura sun skty ho hm ni wo jo hq pER ni hm us k 7 na rhy gy na 7 degy
@bhai main deen or illm ni janta mujy bs itna pta h
jo hazour S.A.W peace be upon him unki family un ki biwi ki behurmuti….. QURAN ko ni manty …. hmry sahaba ko muslim he ni nauzubilah… jin ko duniya he main jannat ki bsharat ……yai unko yaha nai rok paay unhony hukumat ki 😀 😀 wo b islam ko apna insaf bna k 20lankh murba mill …. ni mily ga sacha mery siddeq jesa na koi hoga faisala krnx wala mery faaroouq r.a jesa ……
Shavez Alam, thanks for coments, app na correct kaha ka hamary some of sunni brothers in shia loogoon ki batoon ma a jattay hain, app na likha k Umer ra ka zamanay ma 20 lakh muraba mile par muslim haqoomat thi, bulkay 26 lakh muraba mile ki haqoomat thi, Usman ra ka zamanay ma ya haqomat 32 lakh muraba mile tak phail gai, afsoos ka sath kahna parta ha k Ali ra ka zamanay ma aik inch bi new land fatah na ho saki, khana jangi start ho gai, kakin Maawia ra ka zamanay ma islamic state 62 lakh muraba mile tak ponch gai, us waqat muslim ki navey dunia ki sub sa powerful navey mani jati thi, in tamam cheezoo ko roknay ka liay Karbala ka afsoos nak waqia jan boog kar yahoodion, majoosion aur saleebion ki sazis sa hua, ham Hussain ra ka qatal ko aik bohat barah nuksan ha, lakin dushmanoo ki chal kamyab ho gai aur muslim apas ma fight karnay lagay,
Salam to all of u ma to bs itna janta hn k agr Abu bakr Umer Usman momin ni to dunia ma koi bi momin ni phir momin ki definition pe koi bi pura ni utrta rhe bt peace ki hn hm peace chahte hn bt ye isi surt possible ha k sahaba ki toheen band ki jae peace khud bkhud ho jae ga in my opinion namoos e Sahaba n namoos e Ahl e Bait bill parliament se pass ho k in k gustakho ko death sentence ho is the only way jis se peace possible ha shia ka role is ma bht important ha agr wo sach ma peace chahte hn to ye bill unki tarf se present Kia jae .
Immam ka barah ma shia ka aqeeda sabit karta ha ka wo Katmay Naboait ka mannay walay nahi hain, ab wo revenge la rahay hain Mohameed SAW say, jub ka Ali ra ko Allah ka darja datay hain, aur in ka baqool, Ali ra ki gardan ma robe dal kar aur Madinay ki streets ma gaseeta gia Abu Baker ra ki bait ka liay, to khudai dawah kider gia, ya Ali ra ki open gustakhi ha, ma some references da raha hoon, in ki jooti in ka sar, Allah ki qasam ya aqida rakhnay walay KAFER HAIN, KAFER HAIN, KAFER HAIN,
How do Shia & Sunni Muslims differ in their view of the Imamate & who can be considered an Imam?
Note: We respect Shia’s Imams as individuals. Shia’s main reference books are full of lies in the form of fabricated narrations falsely attributed to their Imams or to Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w.). Shia’s Imams did not advocate the blasphemous beliefs of the Shia.
Allah sent Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) as the last and final Prophet on the earth. No new prophet is prophesied to come after Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.), either in Quran and in Hadith. The chain of “Wahi” revelation sent by Allah through Angel Gabriel (a.s) to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) ended upon the death of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) in 11th year Hijri. However, Prophet Mohammad mentions that Jesus Christ will return to Earth and will rule the World as a Muslim, but will not bring a new holy scripture or revelation. Furthermore, Prophet Mohammad also mentions that a Muslim leader, called Al-Mahdi, will appear around the end of time before Jesus’ return.
The Shia believe that the final Imam, called Al-Mahdi, disappeared hundreds of years ago and went into occultation state, but he will re-appear around the end of the world, before the Day of Judgment. Shia’s Al-Mahdi is very different in his characteristics from Al-Mahdi that prophet Mohammad mentions that he will appear to lead the Muslims at the end of time. Shia’s Al-Mahdi based on what the Shia’s reference books mention seems to be more like a Prince of Vengeance who will take revenge against the Sunnis, he will bring back to life, crucify and torture, Abu Bakr & Omar (Prophet Mohammad’s closest companions) and Aisha (Prophet Mohammad’s wife).
Shia’s Imam Mahdi is a fictitious, imaginary character. He never existed as a child. He does not exist now, contrary to what they believe. Therefore, there will never be any person appearing in the future who will fulfil all the characteristics and signs of Shia’s Imam Mahdi. Some Shia may follow the Anti-Christ, thinking he is Shia’s Imam Mahdi because there are many similarities between them (click here for an in-depth analysis of this point).
The Shia believe that the Imams have a divine mission, to rule the Muslims after Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.), and represent God on Earth. They claim that knowledge of the unseen belongs solely to their Imams, and it is not for the Prophet to inform us about the unseen.
Some Shia have gone so far as to claim divinity for those Imams.
Importance of the Imamate for the Shia
Al-Imamah is the most important pillar of Shia’s religion. Shia scholar al-Muzaffar explains:
“We believe that al-Imamah is one of the fundamentals of the religion, by which faith is incomplete without it.” (Aqaa’id al-Imamiyyah: Muhammad Rida al-Muzaffar, chapter 3: al-Imamah, p.89)
The famous Shia Scholar, Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, nicknamed al-Sadooq (the truthful), wrote:
“Our belief is that whoever denies the Imamah of Amirul-Mu’mineen Ali bin Abi Talib and the Imams after him is equal to the denial the Prophethood of all the Prophets. We further believe that whoever recognizes (the Imamah of) Amirul-Mu’mineen but denies one of the Imams, is like one who admits and recognizes all the Prophets but denies the Prophethood of Muhammad [pbuh]. (Al-I’tiqadaat: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, p. 103, from: ‘Aqeedat al-Imamah, Dr. Ali As-Saloos, p. 28 )
Al-Mufeed, a leading scholar among Twelver Shi’ites, and who was the teacher of Abu Ja’far At-Tusi who became a top Shia Scholar, wrote as quoted by Al-Majlisi:
“The consensus of all Twelver Shia is that whoever denies the Imamah of any Imam, and denies the allegiance imposed by Allah Ta’ala for him (the Imam), then he’s a Kafir deviant, deserving eternal Hell.” (Bihaar al-Anwaar: Muhammad Baqir al-Majlisi, vol.23, p.390, from Aqeedat al-Imamah: Dr. Ali As-Saloos, p.29)
Muhammad bin Ali narrated from his uncle Muhammad bin Abil-Qasim, from Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi, from Muhammad bin Sinaan, from Ziyad bin al-Munthir, from Sa’eed bin Jubair, from Ibn Abbas said: The Messenger [pbuh] said:
“He who disputes with Ali bin Abi Talib [as] after me is a Kafir and he who joins someone against him is a Polytheist. He who loves him is a believer, and he who hates him is a hypocrite. He who follows him is a follower, and who fights him is an apostate, and who rejects him will perish. Ali is the Light of Allah in His earth and His proof on His servants. Ali is the sword of Allah against His enemies, and the inheritor of the knowledge of His Prophets. Ali is the Upper Word of Allah, and the word of his enemies is the lower. Ali is the Master of the Appointees (Awsiya), and the Appointee of the Master of Prophets. Ali is the Prince of Believers (Amir-ul-Mu’mineen), leader of “al-Ghurr al-Muhajjalin” and the Imam of all Muslims, Allah does not accept the faith except of those who accept his (Ali’s) Wilayah and declare allegiance to him.” (Al-Amaali: Ibn Babawaih Al-Qummi, 3rd Council, p.19, Narration 6)
Lies & Deception
The Shia have tendency to lie and attribute false statements and narration to their Imams. The following are 2 examples of fabricated narrations:
Muhammad bin Yahya, narrated from Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Issa, from Muhammad bin Sinaan, from Muawiyah bin Wahab said:
“We departed to Makka and in our company was a righteous old man who does not know about this matter (Shi’ism) and performs the full prayer during travel, and with him was his nephew, who was a Muslim. The old man got sick, so I said to his nephew: If you present this matter (of Shi’ism) to your uncle, perhaps Allah may save him. Everybody said: Leave the old man alone, he seems alright. His nephew did not wait long to say: Uncle, the people became apostates after the Messenger of Allah [pbuh] save very few men, and Ali bin Abi Talib [as] was entitled to the same allegiance that the Messenger [pbuh] enjoyed, and after the Messenger of Allah, truth and allegiance was due to him. (The Narrator) Said: The old man took a deep breath and said: I am on this path, and died. So, (later on) we went to (Imam) Abu Abdullah [as], Ali bin As-Sariy related this story to Abu Abdullah [as], thus he (Imam Abu Abdullah) said: He is a man from the people of Paradise. Ali bin As-Sariy said: But he did not know a thing about this (Shi’ism) save that hour ! (The Imam) Said: What (else) you want from him? By Allah, he entered the Paradise.” (Al-Kafi (fil Usool): Al-Kulainy, Book of Faith & Disbelief, Chapter: Things That Allah Gave to Adam [as] At The Time of Repentance, vol.2, p.440, narration 4)
A Shia narrator, Ali ibn Ibrahim, has narrated the following statement whom he attributes falsely to one of Shia’s Imams, Imam al-Rida (a.s.):
“Thereafter, (thanking Allah) Muhammad (s.a.) was the trustee of Allah for His creatures. When he was taken away from this world we, Ahl al-Bayt inherited him, thus, we are the trustees of Allah over His earth. With us is the knowledge of the sufferings, the death, the genealogy of the Arabs and the birth of Islam. We know the man when we see him in the truth of faith or hypocrisy. Our followers (Shi‘a) are listed (with us) by their names and the names of their fathers. Allah has established a covenant with them and with us. They land wherever we would do so and enter wherever we would enter. There is no one who follows Islam except us (and our followers). We are the noble saviors and the descendents of the prophets and of the children of the successors of the prophets. We the ones to whom the book of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has come exclusively. We, of all people, have the first priority (closeness) to the book of Allah. We, of all people, have the first priority (closeness) to the Messenger of Allah. For us, Allah formed His religion.”
Infallibility of the Imams
The Shia consider the Imams to be completely infallible, do not make even the slightest error. Hence following these Imams, according to Shia’s creed, is obligatory on all true Shia Muslims until the Day of Judgment. In fact, reverence for these Imams is so great amongst the Shia that the Imams are believed to be on a level above even the Prophets or the highest ranking angels; A level wherein even the particles of the universe are subservient to them.
Khomeini asserts in his book, Al-Hukumah Al-Islamiyyah:
“Certainly the Imam has a dignified station, a lofty rank, a creational caliphate, and a sovereignty and mastery over all the atoms of creation. It is definitely a basic belief in our school of thought, that our Imams occupy a rank unattainable by either an angel or a major Prophet. And, according to our narrations of Hadith, before the creation of the universe, the greatest Prophet SAWS, and the Imams – peace be upon them – were in the form of light which Allah made orbit His throne and gave them rank and proximity known only to Him. As was narrated in the hadith on Miraaj, Angel Gabriel said, ‘If I were to have come an inch closer, I would have been burnt up.’ – that is, by the intensity of the Imam’s light. It has also been narrated by them (the Imams) – may peace be on them – that, ‘We have certain states in relation to Allah not allowed to an angel or a great Prophet.’ A similar status is accorded to Fatima Al-Zahra (Prophet Mohammad’s daughter) – may peace be on her…”
In the same book, Khomeini also states regarding the Imams:
“…because we cannot imagine the Imams being forgetful or negligent, and we believe that they perceive all things which could benefit Muslims…” and “The Imam’s teachings are like the Qur’an…they must be implemented and followed.”
This last statement finds its support in a chapter of Al-Kafi entitled: “Surely people have no Truth except what came from the Imams and everything which did not come from them (the Imams) is false.”
The Shia believe that the Imams have absolute and infinite knowledge. This contradicts what Allah says in the Quran; “Verily the knowledge of the Hour is with Allah (alone). It is He who sends down rain, and it is he that knows what is in the wombs. Nor does anyone know what it is that he will earn tomorrow, nor does anyone know in what land he is to die. Verily with Allah is full knowledge and He is acquainted (with all things)” (Quran 31:34)
Characteristics of the Imams
Below are some of the lies that the Shia tell about their 12 Imams, as some of you might have already known that the Shia’s beliefs differ significantly in many aspects from Islam:
1. “All the Imams are infallible just like the prophets. The Shia derive their religion from their immaculate (infallible) Imams” (Usool al Kafi, p. 22) Well this is a clear statement of kufr from the Shia, as you can see they admit that they derive their religion from their Imams, well this means that if a Shia Imam declares something as forbidden that in the Qur’an is permissible, the Shia would follow their Imams… by this statement the Shia have taken themselves outside Islam.
2. “By listening to the voice of a person, the Imams can tell if the person was destined to go to hell or to heaven; they would thus answer his questions accordingly” (Usool al Kafi, p.185) As you can see the Shia make their Imams out to be some God-like being, can’t they see that this is Shirk (worshipping other than Allah, or associating partners with him).
3. “The Imams possess all the knowledge granted to angels, prophets and messengers” (Al-Kulaini, Al-Kaafi, p.255.) Well here is more shirk from the Shia… How can an Imam, who is just a human, know the Unseen??? Only Allah knows the Unseen, and think about this. The Imams were not even alive at the time of all of the prophets so here is a major contradiction in the Shia faith!
4. “The Imams know when they will die, and they do not die except by their own choice” (Ibid, p: 258) Now, this is a clear statement of blasphemy. Only Allah knows when a man will die! And these Shia say that their Imams have control over the timing of their death. This is major blasphemy and “shirk” (polytheism) for any one to believe in all the things that the Shia say about their Imams!
5. “The Imams have knowledge of whatever occurred in the past and whatever will happen in the future, and nothing is concealed from them” (Ibid, p. 260.) Only Allah knows the future for any person to say that these Imams know the Unseen is committing “Shirk” (polytheism) and takes himself outside Islam.
6. “The Imams have knowledge of all the revealed books, regardless of the languages in which they were revealed” (Ibid, p. 227) As you can see these Shia have elevated their Imams to a God-like level, and the Shia say that there is nothing wrong with this!!!
7. “No one compiled the Qur’an completely except the Imams, and they encompass all of its knowledge’ (Ibid, p. 228) So since the Qur’an was not compiled by the Imams then does that mean that the Quran is fabricated??? These Shia want to even destroy Islam… look at what they say, they even insult the Qur’an!! And it is a well known fact that the Shia have their own Qur’an
8. “Signs of the prophets are possessed by the Imams” (Ibid, p. 231) The Shia have once again elevated their Imams to a very high level. The Imams they refer too are only human! So why do the Shia worship them.
9. “When the Imams’ time comes, they will rule in accordance with the laws of prophet David and his dynasty. These Imams will not need to ask for presentation of evidence before passing their judgments” (Ibid,p. 397) The Shia even believe that their Imams can do what ever they want!! Here they say that their Imams can just pass judgment on anybody! And they say that their Imams will not rule according to the Qur’an, but will rule by the laws of David!! (All Muslims must rule by the Qur’an and Sunnah). This is a proof that the awaited Imam of the Shia is not the one that Muslims believe in, but he is indeed the Anti-Christ (Al-Dajjal). The one that all Jews are waiting for him to be their leader.
10. “There is not a single truth possessed by people, save that which originated with the Imams. Everything which did not originate from the Imams is false” (Ibid, p.277)
Let us examine what the Shia’s main reference books say about their Imams:
1. Imam Ali is God. (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol. 2, p. 66, pub. in Pakistan)
2. There is no difference between Ali & Allah (meaning they are the same person/ entity). (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol. 2, p. 85)
3. Wherever the Quran mentions “Rab” (meaning Lord/God), according to this Shia book, that word should be substituted with Imam Ali’s name. (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol. 2, p. 66)
4. Imam Ali & his descendants are omni-present (everywhere & anytime) and omni-scient (have unlimited knowledge) and these attributes are theirs alone, and therefore are not attributes of Allah. (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol. 2, p. 85)
5. Imam Ali & his descendent Imams know everything that:
(a) happened in the past,
(b) is happening now, and
(c) will happen in the future.
(Usool Kaafi, Vol 1, p260 & Vol. 2, p. 10)
6. It is a fundamental principle of faith that our (Shia) Imams have ranks higher than the ranks of angels & God’s prophets. (Khomeini’s book, Hukuma Islamiya, p. 52)
7. The Imam possesses more attributes than a Prophet. (Usool Kaafi, Vol.1, p. 388)
8. All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a. w). (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 270)
9. Shia must follow the Imam when he is under the state of Taqiya (lying about his true faith). (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 40)
10. Imams receive divine revelations. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 176 & p. 329-330)
11. The Imams are the eyes of the God in his creatures and the final authority in the affairs of all human beings. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 145)
12. The Hujjat ( Ultimate proof ) of God can not be established without an Imam. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 177)
13. “The acceptance of Ali’s Wilaya is as important as the acceptance of the prophethood of the prophets”. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 197)
14. Every year, in the Night of Power (Lailat ul Qadr, which occurs in Ramadan), God sends commandments (revelations) to the Imams. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 248)
15. An Angel provides divine revelations to the Imams in the Night of Power. (Shab-e-Qadar, p.569)
16. An Imam knows his hour of death and his death is under his control. (Usool Kaafi, Vol.1, p. 258)
17. To hide a secret and to weep for the sake of an Imam is considered as Jihad. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 226)
18. Imam Hussain said “By God, Muawiyah is better than the Shia: they have tried to killed me”. (Al-Ehtijaj, Vol. 2, p. 290)
19. Imam Mahdi recited the Sura-e-Qadar before his birth. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. 2, p. 475)
20. When Imam Mahdi comes, he will be naked in daylight. The first disciple to take a pledge of allegiance to him will be prophet Mohammad. (Haqqul Yaqeen, Vol. 2, p. 337)
21. Imam Mahdi will kill all the Sunni Scholars. (Haq-ul-Yaqeen, p. 527)
22. Imam Mahdi will bring new Sharia (divine law) and commandments. (Behar-ul-Anwaar, Vol. 10, p. 597)
23. Imam Mahdi will declare himself to be a prophet. (Behar-ul-Anwaar, Vol. 10, p. 550)
24. Imam Mahdi will take revenge against all the sins since Adam (a.s). (Basair-ud-Darajat, p. 83)
25. The Sun will rise from the West at the time of Imam Mahdi’s appearance. (Chawdah Sitaray, p. 585)
26. Imam Mahdi will appear when only forty two believing Shia will be left on the face of the Earth. (Chawdah Sitaray, p. 571)
27. All angels will swear allegiance to Imam Mahdi. (Chawdah Sitaray, p. 594)
28. An Imam talks before being born. (Ahsan-ul-Muqaal, Vol. 1, p. 327)
29. The Imams are NOT born like ordinary human beings from their mothers’ wombs. (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol 2, p.474)
30. An Imam is born from his mother’s thigh (not from his mother’s womb). (Ahsan-ul-Muqaal, Vol. 1, p. 325)
31. Yazeed Bin Muawiyah was the real uncle of Imam Ali Akbar bin Hussain (r.a). (Zabhan Azeem, p. 261)
32. Yazeed was the name of Imam Hussain’s son. (Tareekh-ul-Ayema, p. 83)
33. There was no horse named Zuljinah in Karbala. (Zabhan Azeem, p. 223)
34. Imams possess authority to declare any thing lawful or unlawful. (Khilaqat-e-Norania, p. 155)
35. Imamate is a divine rank like Prophethood. An Imam is infallible and every creature in the universe is subject to his command and must obey him. (Tohfa Namaz-e-Jaffria, p. 28)
36. Imamate is equal to Prophethood. (Tohfa-tul-Awaam, p. 7)
37. All Prophets had to recognize and accept the Wilayat of Ali (meaning that Ali is Wali of Allah) before they were appointed as prophets. (Tareekh-e-Shia, p. 18)
38. Imam Ali ( R.A. ) was the creation of angel Jibreel (Gabriel). (Al-Majalis Al-Fakhra, p. 128)
39. Imam Ali did Miraaj (made a journey to Heaven during his lifetime) before Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w). (Dewan-e-Jil Ehzan, p. 38)
40. The rank of Ali’s Wilayat is higher than prophethood. (Hazaar Tumhari Das Hamari, p. 52)
Is there an Imamah concept in Islam that Sunni Muslims accept? Who can be considered an Imam, from Sunni Muslims perspective?
Let us initially define the term Imamah:
In Arabic, an Imam is a leader whom others follow, such as one who leads the prayer, who heads a group or even the Caliph. Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w.) is the Imam of all the Imams. Furthermore, the title Imam can be used for one who is an expert of a certain field. To illustrate, it is said that al-Bukhari is an Imam of Hadith, Malik, Abu Hanifah, al-Shafi’i, Ibn Hanbal are Imams in Islamic Jurisprudence, and so on.
Allah [s.w.t.] says in Quran 2:124 :
” Recall that Abraham was put to the test by his Lord, through certain commands, and he fulfilled them. (God) said, “I am appointing you an Imam (leader or role model) for the people.” He said, “And also my descendants?” (God) said, “My covenant does not include the transgressors.” ”
Another example is Allah’s [s.w.t.] saying in the Quran 21:73 :
“And We made them Imams (leaders) who guide by Our command, and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds, the observance of regular prayers, the giving of Zakat (required charity), and they were our devoted worshippers.”
Quran 9:12 says:
“If they violate their oaths after pledging to keep their covenant, and attack your religion, you may fight the Imams (leaders) of disbelief- surely, they have no regard for their oaths – so that they may desist.”
Quran 28:41 says:
“And We made them Imams who invite/lead (people) to HellFire, and, on the Day of Resurrection, they will have no help.”
From the above definitions, we can understand the reason why the Khalifah (Caliph) is called an Imam too. Imam Abu Zahra explained:
“It was called Caliphate because whoever assumes it and becomes the Prince of the Faithful (Governor of the Muslims), is actually succeeding the Prophet [saw] in managing the affairs of the Muslims. It is also called al-Imamah, because the Khalifah (Caliph) used to be called Imam, and because his obedience is compulsory and the people follow him as they follow the one who leads the prayer.” (Aqeedat al-Imamah: Ali Ahmad As-Saloos, PhD, p.9 )
9. Hazrat Abu Bakr (r.a) could not recite Kalma at the time of his death. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 211)
10. When Our Qaim (12th Imam) gets up, Humira (Ayesha) will be raised from the dead so as to be whipped her due punishment, and so as to avenge the daughter of Muhammad (s.a.w.s), Fatima. (Al Shafi, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 108)
11. Ali is God. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 66)
12. The Hujjat (Ultimate proof ) of God can not be established without Imam. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 177)
13. “Changes in Qur’an for Drinker Khulafa-e-Rashideen”. (TranslationOf Quran Majeed by Maqbool Hussain Dehlevi, Page No. 479)
14. Shaitan was the first to sworn the oath of allegiance from Abu Bakr in the mosque. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 30)
15. “An accusation of poisoning to Prophet by Ayesha and Hafsa”. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Page No. 118)
16. Imams are God. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 85)
17. Imam knows his hour of death and his death is in his control. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1,Page No. 258)
assalam o alikum everybody, plz yeh sunni shia k jhagron ko khatam kr do yar.mujhy deen ka zyada knowledge nahin hai mujhy nahin pta shia sahi hai ya sunni.khamkha hi ksi pr kafir k fatwe lagana sahi nahin hai.main apne haqeer elam ki badolat yahan kuch baten mention kr rha hun is pr amal kerne wala kamyab hai chahe wo shia ho ya sunni.
1.allah k sath ksi ko shareeq met thehrao
2.hazar muhammad (saw) ko allah ka akhri nabi thehrao aur apni zindagi ko un ki sunaton k mutaq guzarne ki koshish karo.aur kamon besh 1 lakh 24 haraar ambia pr b yaqeen rakho
3.quran pak ki taleemat ki parwi karo
4. nabi (saw) k ksi b sahabi ki shan mein gustakhi met kro
5. ahle bet se muhabbat kro
6. olia karam ka adab kro.
yehi maqsade hyat ha musalmano plese jhagron ko khatam kr do
Yazeeeed Teri jad te lanat 🙂 Suni bhaiyu yr ap k khud Ahle sunat mai itna zyda firqay hn Quran arbi mai na pharo bachon bal k Tarjuma pharo pr ye dimaG ki bt jo tm se nai Hoga Ssp Murda bad beta Sipah mohmmad underground hai jald he show hoti fr dekhna haL Sare munkir Thap Deny :)lolz
Bht LAte Pucnha Es Site Pe ChaLoO Koi Bt Nahi 🙂 Mujhe Sabit karo shia kaisy kafir apni Gandi zuban se nahi hadees Or Quran se Fr main sAbit krta tm loGn ki Aslihat
Jab Tak alem na ho zuban na kholo hamre nabi (s.a.w.w) Begair Wahi k zuban nae kholty thy bolty nae thy or tm lOG Begair phary likhy GHALT BTAIN KRTY HO
Momen shaib, parda hataya to bura man gaye, lanet bajnay say kam nahi chalta, app in hawaloon ka jawab dain jo pash e khadmat hain, bool dain ka ya tamam likhnay walay Khanzeer ki ulad hain aur in ko mannay walay bi yahoodin ki nasal hain, ya kitabain likhnay waly ki randi bazar ki padawar hain, ham na aj tak ahl e bait ko borah nahi kaha, bulkay un ka ahtram karty hain, lakin sahaba e karam ki gustakhi karnay waloon par bi LANNAT bajjtay hain,
Mr momin waise to ma phle bi ye references quot kr chuka hn chalo aik br phir kr deta hn surah al bakara ayat no 13 jb in kafro se munafqo se kha jata ha iman Lao jaise or log lae(sahaba)munafiqo ne kha k hm in bewaqufo ki trha iman lain.jawab ma Allah ne kha k tm sahaba ko bewaquf khte ho tm khud bewaquf ho tm isko ni jante.munafiqo ne sahaba ko kafir kha jawab ma Allah ne munafiqo ko bewaquf kha sabak Kia dia qayamt tk Jo lafz sahaba k leye istmal Kia jae ga ye insano ka ni Allah ka triqa ha ab agr sahaba ko murtid kafir kha jae to Allah ki is ayat ka mutabik wo bi kafir murtid ha??ab dekho hadees ko mere bd koi nabi Hota to Umer hota.aik dafa Nabi masjid ma dakhil hoe aik trf Umer aik trf Abu bakr kha logo dekho hm aise janat ma dakhil hn gae. Ab btao hadees ka munkir Jon hota ha??? Chalo ab tmare ulma Kia khte hn allama jawad naqvi about hazrat Ayesha you tube kisi k muqadseen ki insult krna haram ha jb hazrat Ali ne ni ki hm kon hote hn Kia Alise bare Ali k Shia hn ab ye btao Ali ka munkir shiaism ma kn???? Tmara apna Shia scholar javed chaudhry k program kal tak ma Mazhar Hussain mashidi khta ha Jo sahaba ko kafir murtid kehe wo khud kafir murtid ab btao Mazhar mashidi Shia ni??? Btao Allah k sath kisi ko shariq krne wala kn??? To ye btao jo Ali ko khuda ka darja de wo kn???Hamare leye hmare muaqf ko prov krne k leye yehe kafi ha ab tm mjhay Quran or Hadees se imamat hone ko sabit kro??? Agr imamt ha to btao wo knsi chez thi jis ne Nabi ko khul k imamt ka logo ko btane se roka ???agr immat Islam ka lazmi hisa ha to btao Nabi ki nabuat ka Quran ma jaga jaga iqrar ha Ali ki Immamt ka iqrar kyo ni???
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Mr alishan kazmi Abu bakr Umer Usman k momin hone ka certificate hmain tm logo se ni chahiae.agr Abu bakr Umer Usman momin ni to dunia ma koi bi momin ni.dalail ka jwab dalail se do agr koi ap logo ki books ma se reference deta ha to usko justify kro.rhe bt Imamat ki walayat ki to dear Quran or Hadees se sabit kro bec is se bra source to or koi ni ha na Jo bt Quran or Hadees se sabit ni uska koi bi wajood ni.tell me one thing tm log hyper kyo hote ho dalail se bt kro gali to koi bi de skta ha.Baki aj agr Islam dunia k Kone Kone ma ha to us ma in khulfa ka bht bra hath ha is se koi inkar ni kr skta.
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Mr alishan kazmi bibi zahra k sath zulm o sitm ki mn gharat dastan sirf shiaism ki ap bnai hoi ha aise kisi bi waqe ka wajood hi ni is ka sb se bra proof Um e Qulsoom ki Umer se shadi ha thori se aqal istmal kro jis ko tm imam e zamana khte ho apni biwi pe zulm krne wale se apni beti ki shadi kr di wao yehi is bt ka saboot ha k aisa koi waqia ni hoa chalo mjhay is shadi ki justification do Ali to kisi jang se ni bhaga ab aise knsi mjbori thi Nabi ki beti pe zulm krne waleko beti ka rishta dia justify it???????? Abu bakr Umer Usman jang k bhagore hn sirf Umer ne Islam ki saltnat ko 20 lakh muraba mile tk le k Gaya Nabi k bd bd murtido se munkir zaqat se jihad Kis ne Kia btao ???? Sehr bano jis se tmare immao ki nasl chali Kis ki ata krda thi btao????? Kasur tmara bi ni tmko Jo tmare abao Ajdad ne btaya tm wohi kaho ge.Abu bakr Umer Usman ko hm khulfa mante hn immam ni tm to immamt ko Islam ka lazmi hisa khte ho khulfa to majlis e shura se bnte hn tell me immamt ka Quran ma Hadees ma zikr kyo ni milta k Nabi k bd ab immamt ho gi Ali pehla immam ho ga????? Bt wo kro kid ko aql tasleem kre agr namaz Azan Hussain ki karzdar ha to aj dunia ka hr muslman Shia hota aj dunia k 90% se ziada muslim sahaba se mohabt rakhte hn ok tell me one thing Ali ne 4th no pe khilaft kyo li unko to haqoomt ki zarort ni thi wo to immam hn baqool tmare???? Baki bt ayat ki ha to zahir ha Allah ne us waqt k munafiqo k leye kha tha na ye to ni kha tha k aj se1400 sal bd Jo Pakistan ma nunafiq hn ye ayat un k leye ha. Munafiqo ko Kia kha aise imman Lao jaise or log(sahaba)iman lae us waqt k munafio ne kha k hm aise iman lain jaise ye bewaquf iman lae Allah ne Kia kha wo bewaquf ni tm bewaquf ho is ka tmko ilm ni .ye us waqt k munafiqo ko adress Kia lakin Quran ki taleemat sirf us waqt k logo tk mehdood to ni thi sabq to yehi ha k Jo bi qayamt tk sahaba ko Jo lafz istmal kare ga wohi us k leye istmal krna Allah ka triqa ha Quran ki taleemat to roz e akhir tk hn. Tmare apne schola Kia khte hn k Jb Ali ne sahaba ko bura ni kha hm kn hote hn bura khne wale Kia hm Ali se bare Ali k Shia hn.follow the people like jawad naqvi who r real Shias hmara aise shio se koi Ikhtalaf ni we respect them we respect their beliefs. We also condemn incident in queeta yes aise log muslim ni ho sakte Jo kise ko na haq qatal krte hn ye log Kafiro se bi bdtr hn chahe wo Sunni hn ya Shia.
Mr Ali Shan Kazmi, ap na jis tarikay sa likha ha ,so called sahaba Umer and Usman, sharim ani chahiay ap ko, un sahaba e karam ka nam is bud tameezi sa lai rahay hain, jo Nabi E Kareem SAW sathi thay, bazoo thay, eyes thay, jin ka zamanay ma islam kahen sa kahen tak phael gia, ap ka so called Immams jin ka ziker saway ap loogoo ki kitaboo ka elawa kisi jagha nahi, mary payaray sahaba e karam ka ziker to qurran ma aiya ha, ap na aik fatwa muj par bi laga dia ha, ka ma wajib ul qatal hoon, ap ki apni kitaboon say hawalay pash karny par ap ka ya hall ha, aur un ka writters par lanat bajnay par ap naraz ho gaey, O qurran ka munkaro tum par Allah ki lanat, O alh e bait ka munkaro tum par Allah ki lanat, O sahaba ka munkaro tum par Allah ki lanat, O namaz ka munkaro tum pa Allah ki lanat, O zakat ka munkaro tum pa Allah ki lanat,
Mr Alishan, ma app app likhta raha aur app tum par a gaey, ok ab tum na mara shajra e nasab pocha ha, maray shajra e nasab nasab ka suno gay to hosh dhikanay a jaen gay, lakin ma kisi zat pat ka huq ma nahi, ya sirf india pakistan ma ha, hundu loogoon ma pundat thay, us ka muqablay ma shah bana lia aur sab say muqadam ban gay, Nabi e Pak saw ka farman ha , arbabi ko ajmi par aur goray ko kalay par koi fazilat hasal nahi, sirf Taqwa, ab ap loog ahl e bait ka libada pahan kar hum loogoon ko bawaqoof bana rahay hain, Nabi e Pak saw na farmaia say farmaia Aah Fatima qayamat ka din mari qarabat pa na rahna apna apna hisab, (quita kay blast ki ma pur zoor muzamat karta hoon aur yay balast karnay waly muslim nahi hain) ya sub amarica aur Iran ki chal ha, baqi maray hawaloon ka jawab zaroor dana, aur un books ka writters ki ma……………………., fill in the blanks, tum khud karna,
To Umer my hero, i slut u, nali ma jutay bigoo bigoo kar mar rahay ho, Allah app ko zindgi da, Allah khush rakhay, mari jan aik bat ap ko bata doon, ap jitnay bi hawalay dain ya manay walay nahi, yar mujay aik bat bata dain in ka Immams na koon sa islamic r historical kam kia ha, aur khas kar in ka 12th immam na joo sirf 5 sal ka cave ma intazar kar raha ha, tuf ha in ka is nazriay par
dear brothers
plz app koi bhi hai shia ya sunni, kisi ko gali mat dein. apni baat dalael say sabit karain or haan apny lehjy main sab narmi apnaen. ham yahan pay firqawariat khatam karny aae hain na k barhanay. dehsat gard na sunni hai na he shia. ham sab logon ko mil kar jo dehsat gar ham main shmil ho gae hain na chahy wo koi Lashkar ho ya phir Sipah, hamain un ko apni safon say nikalna hai or apny behaviour ko moderate banana hai. kisi py kuch force mat karain. apni baat logic say karain, jis ko samajni hai wo aaram say he samjhay ga gusay say manta bhi ho ga tu nahi manay ga. mery 23rd say paper hain main nay abi shamil nahi hona tha behas main but logon ko talkh kalami karty dekha tu iss waja say aaya hoon. see all of you soon. Or han ham sab ko Hazara biradri k sath izhar e yakjehti karna chahiay, q k yay sirf shia ka qatal nahi hai, sunni bi shaheed hoay hongay oss main. yay qatel e aam insaniat ka qatal hai or main iss ki shahdeed mazamat karta hoon. agar wo christian ya jews bhi hotay tu bhi yay ghalt tha, wo tu sab musalman shaheed hoay hai.
To Ks Khan.
app jis tarha chahtay hain k app k muqadasat ka ahtaram kia jae tu app bhi dosry k muqadasat ka ahtaram karain. app agar dosry k muqadasat ka ahtaram karain gay tu dosra bhi app k samnay app k muqadasat k ahtaram kary ga. so brother please understand it. larai kisi maslay ka hal nahi hai. hamain larai ko khatam karna hai. agar koi kisi ki kisi baat ko nahi manta tu na manay. but itehad ko tu qaim karny ki kosis ki ja sakti hai na. jab US ya Jews muslims ko marty hain na tu wo yay nahi dekhty k sunni hai ya shia. wo dekhty hai muslim hai, bas mar do. hamain iss cheez ko ub realize kar jana chahiay. shia sunni deobandi barelvi jo koi bhi ho sab ko Points of Differences jo k bohat kam hain unn ko dabana chahiay. or jo Points of Similarities hai onn ko obharna chahiay. Hope that ham sab mil kar aik dosry main moderate behaviour peda kar sakain. aik dosry ko bardasht karna ka aik dosry k sath mil jul k rehny ka hosla peda kar sakain.
Asslamualykum ….
k.s khan brother dekho en sy behs mt kro yai ni smjny walay…
bhai yai to h he saly gafil hmy b kr de gy hm to gunha gar h bhai jo en k immam h wo hmry b imam h as a individual …. hmry zabn se kch nikal jay to azab hm per chady gay
yaha jitny b shia h wo es swal ka jwb de meri trf se or ks khan or usman ki trf se swal h ek baap ki nasal ho to jwb zarur dena…?
Tum shia koo ek hee challange hai bas ek sawal ka jawab de doo .
Lee aao kahi se jaha pe Hazrat Ali Ra ne Hazrat Abu Bakr Ra ki khilafat koo nahi mana hai yaa kahi pe kaha hoon mujhe woh khilafat manzoor nahi hai. Qayamat ka din aa jiyega tum yeh cheez kabhi nahi lee aa sakte.
P.s. Gaali deke apna time khraab nahi karna , baat daleel ki hai …. Daleel lee aao.
Dear safeer ma ap se 100%agree krta hn gali ka istmal bilkul galat ha dalil se bt ki jae.dear safeer Sunni Shia ko kafir khte hn to Shia bi Sunni ko muslman ni samjte bec immamt shiaism k mutabik Islam ka important part ha us ka inkar krne Wala muslman ni Sunni immamt ko ni mante to zahr ha Shia k nazdeeq wo muslim ni.ab agr ma koi bt krta hn to ap ka right ha ap us se ikhtlaf kro or us k muqable ma dalil do apne bt ki support ma references do.isi trha ma ne apne bt ki support ma Quran hadees or ap k ulma ko quot Kia apko ikhtlaf ha ap mjhay correct krne k leye dalil do evidence do.ma ap k scholar jawad naqvi ko credit dn ga he is a v realistic Shia scholar ap unki speech suno v positive.hazrat Ayesha k bare ma unki speech ma kha k Ayesha ne Ali se jang ki un k is fail ki taqleed to ni kr Skte bt un ka ahtram hm per lazim ha bec Ali ne un ka ahtram Kia bt ko conclude krte hoe he said k Ali se bare Ali k Shia to ni hn na hm. Mere bt ka maqsad ye ha k jawad naqvi Kia Shia ni Kia wo 12 imam ko manne Wala ni when he said Hazrat Ayesha k fail sable qabool ni he presented Shia views bt he showed respect towards Ayesha this is true shiaism ab HR Shia yehi triqa apnae to ye lrai khatam ho jae.ab alishan kazmi ne sahaba k bare ma Jo kha apne comment ma k wo thek trha se muslman bi ni tell me ye shiaism ki kn si khdmt ha Phir age chal k insult ki intiha kr di k sahaba to insan khlane k kabil bi ni ab koi insan itne cheap comments de phir peace ki bt ho Kia isko aql tasleem Krti ha phir khta ha k sahaba hamare immamo k qadmo ki dhool k barabr ni hm sahaba ko apni jano se Aziz rakhte hn alishan k comments bilkul qabil e qabool ni agr usko sunnio se problm ha dalil se bt kare hm se argue kare bt is kism k cheap comments is masle ko ziada hwa dete hn mane phle bi kha tha k is mulq k log bht sensitive hn zat pat pe zuban k ikhtlaf se suba Parsti pe aik dusre ko mar dete hn Karachi ma mahajreen blooch areas ma ni jA Skte Jain to mar deye jate hn Bloch mahajreen areas ma ni jA Skte my dear ye to un San se bht bra issue ha bht sensitive issue ha logo k aqeeda ka deen ka masla ha hmko apne comments ma bht muhtat rehna ho ga I once again appreciate Ur views about peace.
Safeer e Azza, ma ap ki bat say 100% agreed hoon, but ap na khud dakha k Kazmi na jis tra Sahaba e Karam ki insult ki, to kia hum bardasht kar lain, glass walay ghar ma baeth kar kisi ko pather nahi martay, koi swal karta ha to us ko us ko galian di jati hain aur us sa shajra e nasb pocha jata ha, give and take hona zuroori ha, ma na references diay lakin un ka jwab nahi dia, ab Ali immam is God, is tara ki bat ager ham pochthay hain to is ka jawab daleel sa dain, aur Ali ra na Abu Baker ra ki khalafat kuain qabool ki, ab ya swal ka jawab dain, aik bat yad rakhain Mudded sirf Allah sa talab kar saktay hain, ya Qurran ma clear ha, Umer my hero na bi swal pochay hain, i 100% agreed with umer,
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dear Umer bhai
main app ki post poori nahi parh saka but 1 agree with you 100% on hazrat Ayesha wali baat. good bohat achi baat ki hai app nay. baqi post papers k baad parhoon ga. phir inshallah baat ho gi.
KS Kahn app nay bhi sahi kaha. Kazmi bhai ko bo app say baat karty hoay app k muqadasat ka ahtaram karna chahiay. chahay koi kisi ko many ya na many but uss ko man’ny waly k samny uss ka ahtaram lazim ha. deeni toor pay bhi and ikhlaqi toor par bhi.
Mr alishan kazmi ma tm se pehle kh chuka hn k Sunni Shia ko kafir khte hn Shia Sunni ko bi muslman ni samjte agr koi Shia k against bt ha to us ka jawab Sunni ko do na k sahaba k bare cheap remarks do kisi k muqadseen ki respect sb pe farz ha ma tmko bar ha jawad naqvi k ref de chuka hn try to be sensible like him if u r educated don’t behave life illiterates.tmne kha k sahaba ne bibi k sath batmizi ki I replied u k agr aisa kush hoa hota to Kia wo apne bacho k nam sahaba k nam pe rakhte Kia wo apas ma rishtedarian krte???? Kia Ali khamosh rehta??? Kia Zulm krne wale ko apni beti ka rista dia jata ha??? Thori aqal tm bi use kro.rhe bt molana ishaq ki uski speech snne ki tmko ziada zarort ha mjhay ni question answers ma us k views suno sahaba k bare ma jis speech ka ref tm de rhe ho uski contradiction bi suno mr. Tmne kha k ma ne Quran ko galat justify Kia ha ab agr tmare samaj limited ha to ma Kia kr skta hn mere translation or Jo ref tmne quot keye unko compare kr lo tm khte ho k wo ayat hamare leye ni us waqt k Kafiro k leye thi yes us waqt k Kafiro munafiqo k leye thi saval ye ni ha k us ayat ma Kis ko mukhatib Kia mera argument ye ha k us ayat ma kha Kia Gaya ha sahaba ko bewaquf khne walo ko Allah ne bewaquf kha ab is ki implementation Kia ha k sahaba ko jo lafz kho ge wohi Allah ki is ayat k mutabik us k khilaf istmal Kia jae ga I’m sorry alishan is se asan ilfaz ni hn mere pas samjhame k leye I’m sure agr fifth class k bache ko samjhaya jae wo bi itni dair ma samj jae ga.Ali ki khilaft manne ka jawab dia k muslmano ma inteshar na ho. phle bt to tm khte ho k teno khulfa murtid ho gae kafir ho gae to kn se muslmano ma intense phalne ki bt kr rhe ho tm ye khna chahte ho k Ali ne kafro murtido k hawale Islam kr dia??? Agr immamt Islam ka integral part ha to Ali ne khilafat se dastbrdari kyo ki wo Aisa kr hi ni sake agr imam hote to???? Aise Surat ma Ali pe jihad farz tha na k murtido k hawale deen kr dia jata??? Logically Ur argument is wrong agr immam infallible hota ha to ye to itni bri mistake ha k his ki koi galago ni bec Ali agr us waqt jihad krte to aj 90%se ziada Shia hote dunia ma who is responsible for that.I again say to u don’t give derogatory remarks about sahaba mj se problm ha mj se bt kro ma tm ko gali dn tm mjhay do sahaba ko ni I hope agr tm ma thori bi insaniat ha u will follow it.
Kutty ek sala bolny per tujy ksy merchy lgi …. hmry sahaba per jo bokty ho kutty…
tm kafir ho kafiri..
tm sahaba k munkir… tm ap s.a.w ki malekay hayat amma aysha k munkir, tm quran k munkir …… tm ko muslim bulau main jo ap s.a.w ki biwi k bray main kya 2 bokty h saly mery juda ki dhul h tu kutty ….
kitna sharif bn raha h mutta ki olad ….. ja apni ammi ka soda b kr diya b,c
Shavez
main app say ziada gandi galian day sakta hoon. but main nahi doon ga q k yay keh k app bata rah ho k app ki nasal kia hai. oper comments parho. Umer bhai, KS Khan bhai sab aik dosry ko bhai bhai keh k baat kar rahy hain. ikhtalafat apni jaga. agar kisi nay gali di bhi hai tu galt kia hai. Main bata hoon jab baat shuru hoi thi na tu Meri or KS bhai ki bhi kafi talk kalami hoi. but abb ham sambhalny ki kosis main hain. aik dosry ko samajhnay ki kosis main hai. afsos hai mje app par. ham galat hain na, ok theek hai hamari na mano but Nabi (SAWW) ki tu maan lo. Onhon nay achak ikhlaq ki taleem di hai na k asy ki jesy k app behave kar rahy ho. agar mery kisi Shia bhai nay bhi koi galt baat ki hai tu wo tu galt hai. jo galt baat kary ga wo galt hai. app apna point piar say batao. q k gusay say jo manta bhi ho ga wo bhi nahi many ga.
Safeer e azza, ap na bilkul correct kaha, kisi ka muqadaseen ko burh bolo ga to dosra bi bolay ga, app bat kartay hain respect ka sath, ab Umer my hero bahi kitnay aetram sa bat kartay hain, kabi bi un ko ma na agresive nahi hotay dakha, ya un ki greetnes ha, ager Shavez Alam na sakht bat ki ha to ma maffi mangta hoon, lakin Alishan Kazmi iskader giri hoi bat karta ha k any person agresive ho sakta ha, Shavez Alam aik Islami janbaz ha, kazmi ki bat per usay gusa a gia aur isi tara mujay bi ata ha, Kazmi iskader budtameez ha ka sahaba e karam ka nam ki insult karta ha, mujay bayshak gali da, koi bat nahi, lakin ager wo sahaba e karam ki insult karay ga to ma us ki jud tak chala jaion ga, us na mara nam jantay huway bi maray shajra e nasab ka pocha ha, to kia kazmi ka shajra e nasab kisi mutta ki padawar ha (yad rahay o kazmi mutta tomaray fiqa ma bohat barah sawab ka kam ha) ma na itnay refrence diay hain, kazmi us ka jawab do, apnay Immams ka darja Anbia e karam AS, say ziada batatay ho, ma na tumaray Immams ko kabi bi burah nahi kaha, un ka aetram karta hoon, aik musalman samajtay howay, Kazmi apnay bap ki ulad ho to apnay khandan sa koi Hafiz e Qurran ka nam batayo, ma tum ko sirf apnay khandan say 20 persons ka nam day sucta hoon, aur yay sabat karta ha ka koon Qurran ka munker ha, qurran ka munker koon hota ha……………………..
Ks khan bhai yai chaty h yai hmry sahabo ko gali de .. hzor ki biwiyo per tohmd lgy ….boly quran to h he ni jo utra tha wo to hmra 12wo immam ly kr ay ga …… ali god h ….. fir hmsy umed krty h hm inko muslim boly hargiz ni boluga mery akka S.A.W k parivar per tohmd lgny walo tm ko muslim ni boluga ……… en main sy mera question ka ans ni diya ab tk na qaymat tk de sky gy inshallah
Beshak ……
jo kalma ALI R.A ne phda wo to phdty nhi kud 2 jod diya usmain ….
hzrat ali r.a kbi kisi ko bura ni kaha yai gali dena swab smjhty h….
wo inka 12th immam 1.5 foot ki gar main he ab tk ni aaya na ay ga …….
yai bolty h nauzubilah ALLAH Quran asal h ni yai wo 12wa imam ly kr ay ga 😀 😀
Shavez bahi bilkul sahee farmaia ap na, 1350 sal say rohposh ha in ka immam gar ma, aur asli Qurran bi us ka pas ha, hamara kia qasoor ha, asli qurran wo khod parah raha ha, lanat ha un par jo is par yaqeen rakhtay hain, jo hamaray is qurran ka munker ha, wo dunia ka sub say barah kafir ha, kafir ha, 100000000000000000000000000000000000000 time,
abay Safeer e Azza Kanjar ki olaad jis umar main bhi emaan lain us se kiya farq parta hai kam us Hazrat Ali ki tarah 6 saal ki umar main tu emaan nahi laye jab bacahay ko pata hi nahi hota hai k emaan kis churiya ka naam hai.
Or baar kiya Rasool Allah ke kalam manga tu kis ne kalam nahi diya kehte rehte ho.
Soor ki bachoon Ali bhi khaday howe thay wahan per woh dete thay Rasool Allah ne kisi kan naam leker tu nahi manga tha agar baqi kisi nay nahi diya tu is ka matlab hai baqiyon ne bhi Hazrat Umer ki baat per ittefaq kiya.
or Rasool Allah ne bhi ek dafa kaha agar esi baat hoti tu woh phir keh dete lekin nahi Woh sirf check ker rahay thay mere sahab mera parhaya howa sabaq yaad hai k nahi or Hazrat Umer us main Paas ho gaye
Asslamualykum bhaiyo kal main ek shia se baat kr raha tha …. yai kanjar to ap S.A.W ki betiyo ki he ni manty
syyadnaa zainb r.a
syyadnaa kulsum r.a
fir mainy socha yai mana q krty h tb smj aya hmray nabi ne apni betiyo ka nikha hzrat usman r.a se jo kiya h…
mujy fakar h main us ummat main se hu jo nabi k gulam .ahly beit k gulam..sahaba k gulam or buzrgwar e din k gulam……..
@Yazeed tm hzrat Ali ka naam addb se lo wo hmry kalfaa e rashidin h ……
yai kanjar alg h yai
HZRAT ALI R.a ne kbi kch ni bola inhony unki he baat na mani….
k.s khan bhai ek post daluga 10 swal h agr yai jwb de de to man luga yai asal shia h….
hm shia ko kafir ni hm us ko kafi bolty h jo quran ka munkir sahaba ka munkir
…..kuda ka kof khao hramiyo
Dear All members ap log kou es baat ko etna ziada barha rahay hoo kou aaik dosray sy lar rahay ho kia Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W.W. nay yeh nai farmaya k kisi kafir ko bhi kafir kehna gunah hai Aehl-e-tashee hazrat aur sunni hazrat ya kisi bhi mazhab say taluq rakhney valey hoo kia vo es farman ko jhutlaengay?? Koun sahe hai aur koun galat yeh faisla ap nai kar sktay yeh haq sirif Allah Pak ko hasil hai behtreen hal yeh hai k ap kisi ko galat nai bolo kisi nabi aur sahaba ko bhi jo guzar gaey unko bura bolna bekar hai us vaqt tk jb tk k ap k pas koi suboot na hoo aur daroo us vaqt sy jab Allah Pak ka ghazab aur azab ham sb pe nazil hoo jisko sahe aur galat ka muwazna karna hai vo Allah Pak k agey jhuk jaoo phir jo chezz galat hogi ap us sy door hojaogy aur jo sahe hogi ap usi taraf chaley jaogy its my experiment and i am satisfy for this burai say bachna hai to namaz parhoo Quran Pak parhoo Allah sy daro khud he tm sahe rah pe chal nikloogay. sunni shia ko bura boltay hain aur shia sunni ko but koi faida hai es chez ka? Nai Jo shakhs Allah Pak k pass chala geya uska taluq es duniya sy tot jata hai so please kisi bhi janey valey ko bura nai bolo har jaga achay logon k sth burey log bhi hotey hain eska mtlb yeh nai k ham galiyan dain aur aik dosray ko bura bhala bolain
Aur agr kisi ko burai sy rukna chahtay hoo to us sy husan-e-sulook sy paish aoo us k liye dil mai bugz na rakhoo us k liye dua karoo k Allah Pak usko hidayat dain bas “Meri yehi dua hai ap sb k liye k Allah Pak ap sb ko hidayat ata farmaen aur aur galat mai tameez paida karney ki taufiq ata farmaen Ameen”.
Agar ap badtamezi k bajaey Ikhlaq sy baat karogay to samney vala khud bakhood ap k liye apney dil mai jaga bana laiga aur apki soch sy itifaq rakhayga aur phir yeh shia sunni deobandi ya koi bhi maslak vala hoo aik dosray sy laraingay nai. Kisi k bhi dil ko mat dukhao kou k har dill mai Allah Pak rehtay hain.
At last a very complicated question to all of them
App ka nam asal mai kiska nam hai?
App k jisim ka, Appki rooh ka ya kisi aur chez ka?
koi bhi answer hoo uska solid reason daina then i give you the right answer with solid reason. Mujhy nahi lagta k kisi ko es cheez ka ilim hoga. I am waiting
SikanderAhmed, app na bat to taqreeban correct ki ha aur app na complicated questions pochay hain, bahi yahan in question ki zarrorat nahi, yahan question ha, garat ka aur ba garti ka, aik question ma app ko karta hoon, ager koi app ki mother ya father ko gali da to ap ka kia jawab ho ga, ager ap khamoshi ikhtiar kartay hain to ap bohat barahy bay garat hain, isi tarah jo hamari Um Al Mominat ra ko gali day to aur ham khomashi ikhtiar kartay hain to ham bohat barahy baygarat hi nahi, munafiq hain, jis ki azmat ki Allah Ji na qurran ma sorah e noor utar di, us par jab koi gustakhi karay to ap ki nazr ma wo kon ha, ham to itna chahtay hain k kisi bi sahaba e karam ki gustakhi na ho,
Mr. Ks Khan ap mjhy aik baat ka jawab doo ap apney apko bht bara Ashiq-e-Rasool aur sahaba bol rahay hoo apko yeh baat pata hai k fatah-e-makkah k bad aik aurat rasool S.A.W.W. pe kachra phainkhti thi apney kabhi bhi us ko gali nai dii bura bhala nai bola jan sy nai mara kou es liye k unka badla Allah Pak lai rahay hotey hain phir jb aik din us aurat ny kachra nai phainkha to apney apney sahabi ko bhejha k ja kar maloom karo jb vo gaey to pata chala k vo aurat bemar hai ap us k pas gaey us ki ayadat ki vo aurat sharminda hui bht aur usi vaqt musalman hogae har chez insan apney hath mai nai lai skta jo Allah Pak k uper tawakal karta hai Allah Pak usko apney sy qareeb sy qareeb tar kartey jatey hain koi mery maa baap ko gali daita hai to yeh uska zarf hai uski tarbiyat hai jawab mai agr mai bhi usko gali donga to mjh mai aur us mai koi farq nai baqi rahay ga han mai usko sirif piar sy aur Ikhlaq sy smjhaonga agr nai mana to phir apna aur uska mamla Allah Pak k uper choor donga aur Allah Pak khudhe us sy badla laingy mjhy lagta hai apney 9th metric mai islamiat nai parhi us mai afoo o darguzar nai parha agr parhi hoti to ap nai boltey esa
Aj tak kabhi esa nai hua k kisi ny mery sth bura kia hoo aur vo khud achay hal mai raha hoo us k sth us sy ziada bura hota hai abhi recently aik scene hua hai office mai to hamesha yad rakho k burai ka badla burai sy loogay to burai aur barhayge burai k badlay achay kar k daikho phir pata chaleyga k uska result kia nikalta hai Allah Pak pe bharosa karo phir nai vo tmhara sath dain to shikwa karna
Allah Pak farmatey hain k jab tu mjhse kuch mangta hai to mery pas tery liye 2 jawab hotey hain
1. Abhi nai.
2. Mai tjhy es sy behtar donga.
3. Yeh cheez tery liye munasib nai hai.
lekin na nai boltay hain lekin ham aur ap mayous hojatey hain aur mayousi kuffr hai
Please pehlay jakar Islam ka aur Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa S.A.W.W. ki serat parhoo ap phir apko apki baton k sarey jawab mil jaengay
Aur aik baat mai chalange sy bol raha hoon jisko jo sawal karn hai vo karey mery pas us k har sawal ka jawab hoga kou k mai apney zehen sy nai Allah Pak ki marzi sy jenay ki koshish karta hoon aur kisi k bi sawal ka jawab mai nai Allah Pak daitay hain.
Allah Pak Farmatey hain
“Kisi arbi ko ajmi per aur kisi kaley ko gorey pe koi fauqiyat hasil nai hai pas koi ilim vala aur ger ilim vala barabr nai hosktay”
Ab bhi agr hosh nai kia to dushman ham sb ko kha jaengy please aik dosray sy piar aur muhabat karna sekho aur apney sy baroon ki izzat akro bhaley vo naik hoo ya bad jo Allah Pak k pas chala geya uska mamla Allah Pak khud daikh laingay
And my request to admin k please esi chezain remove karain jis sy kisi ki dil azari hoo Shia galat hai ya sahe eska faisla ham nai kar sktay hamain apna mawazna karna chaey k ham sahe hain ya galat
Asslamualykum bhai
ek baat mashuur h ap ne syd sunni b ho….
ek baar ek raaja ne kaha yai shia sunni ki debate krao…
to waha shia k ulma aajaty h or ek buzurg sunni b aty h wo apny juty(shoes) hath main uta kr agy bhadty h sb shia bolty dekho es ko tmiz b ni ks juty utay aa raha h….
buzurg raja se bolty h … yai ap S.A.W k time main b mazito se juty uta liya krty thy … to sary shia chilaty h hm to s.a.w(puh) k samney thy he ni 😀 😀 😀 😀
bhai in kuto ko koi mzhb ni dekh lo yai kummani ko to bht manty h us ki video dekho ksy jab mar gya naga ho gya puri public k samne ALLAH ne yahi naga kr diya or shiao k he pairo k nichy aa gya tha ……. daro kuda k azab se hramiyo ….. thoba kr lo s.a.w k gharany ki mukalfat krny walo …….
You know k mai 15 sal ka tha jb mai ny apni pehli job start ki thi mjhy sb boltey thay k yar koi aur kam nai mila magr mai unko sirif etna bol daita tha k jb hamarey nabi S.A.W.W. ny kisi kam mai chotai ya barai nai daikhi to mai kou daikho mai unki khak k barabr bhi nai hoo mgr koshish to kar skta hoo na aur kam koi etna chota nai tha k har koi kar skta hota apneey flat k samney aik whole sale ki kariyana k shop pe packing karta tha us k sth jo saman hota tha vo logon k gharon pe chorney jata tha saman kabi halka hota tha kabhi bhari even 40 to 50 kg ka bora tk chorney geya 4th 5th floor tk yeh sb batain bolney mai asan lagti hain lekin insan ki ego nai karney daiti hain aj mai aik company mai IT-Head hoon jo mai apni nai Allah Pak ki madad sy hoon to please smjhoo Allah Pak hamsy kia chahtey hain aur ham kin kamon mai lagey huey hain hyper honey sy kuch nai hota gussa shaitan dilata hai habil aur qabil k darmiyan bhi gusa he aya tha jabi aj qatal o garat horahay hain Allah Pak sy daro vo hamari kitni galatiyan maaf kar daity hain to kia ham us k uper bharosa nai kar sktay….????
Sikander Ahmad sahib,ap ki batain qabil e staiysh hain,liken aik bat ka jawab dain, ma 35 years hindus aur chirstions ma rah kar a raha hoon, hum nay kabi un ka muqadaseen ko bi borah nai kaha, jantay hain kuain? Is liy k wo apnay ap ko momneen nahi kaytay, loog apnay ap ko moman kaytay hain aur islam ka khalaf bat bi kartay hain, jin hazrat na islam k liy kam kia, islam dunia ka conay conay taq phalaia un ko galian aur jinhoon na kuch bi nahi kia un ko Anbia e Karam AS say bi ziada darja deina, to bahi sahab gusa to ata ha, hum kisi ko bi borah nahi kaytay, ager ap kay fulsafay per amal hota to Islam maybe sirf madina tak rahta,
K S Khan Bhai
i agree with you. main kazmi bhai say bhi request karta hoon k woo bhi dosroon k muqadaseen ka ahtaram karain. main app say maafi mangta hoon. or Shahvez Bhai aik baat yaad rakhain, larnay say masael barhain gay,kam nahi hoon gay. main bhi bohat lara hoon but realize kar gaya hoon k asay maslay hal nahi hotay. app bhi plz realize karny ki kosis karain. K S Bhai bhi kosis main hain or realize kar rahay hain. Bhai ham sab ko sambhalna ho ga. koi bhi had say na barhy kisi kay muqadseen k bary main. sab maslay hal ho jaen gay. jab tak ham khud mil kar rehnay ki kosis nahi karain gay, ham nahi mil k reh sakty.
KS bhai, sari batain aik taraf sary masael ki jar hamesha say Yazeed hi raha hai or yay phir say aag laganay aa gaya hai. abb iss ka kia karna hai. i hope k hamary ikhtalafat jo bhii hoon app bhi Yazeed ka sath tu kabhi nahi dena chahian gay.yay apki side lay kar app logon main ghusna chah raha hai. please iss fitny ko pehchanain. mje papers main 4 chutain theen tu main nay kaha h bhaion say hello hi hi kar loon.
Sab ko salam. missing Umer bhai presence
main jald wapis aa raha hoon phir ham sab mil kar unn point ko samny laen gay jo k similar hain na k woo jo k ikhtalaf ki waja hain. isis say masla hal ho jae ga
Safeer sahib, hamara aik hi narah ha, Allah say mango bus, tamam sahaba e karam qabil a ahtram hain, hum ap ka immams ko immam nahi mantay, lakin un k ahtram kartay hain, kisi sunni ka moo say kabi ap ko Ali ra, Fatima ra aur un ki ulad ko galat alfaz nahi sunay ho gay, hamari ki books ma ap ka muqadseen ki toheen nahi ki jati, lakin jis shia books ko dakho sahaba ki bohat ziada toheen ki jati hay, ap waqai kisi ki toheen nahi kartay, yay qabil e stayish ha, kazmi bi har bat pa sahaba ki gustakhi kartay hain, jis jis na Nibi e Pak saw ko hayat ma ziarat ki, kia hum ko zaiba data ha k hum un ki gustakhi karian, Bahi Umer ki absence bohat feel ho rahi ha, Allah un ko salamat rakhay, Islam ma sub baraber hain, ill ul taqwa, Quran e Majeed aik miracle ha, 1400 sal say ziada ho gay, aik zayer zubar ka firq na a saka, ab jo is Quran ko Tahreef Shuda manay wo ap ki nazer ma kon ho saktay hain? Hifz e Quran bi dunia ma aik miracle ha, aur yay aik quran kay correct hanay ka saboot ha,
safeer aza
eik aap hein aur dusra kazmi..yaqeen nahe hota yar kitna difference hay….
any ways i agree 100% aap ka role bohat acha jaraha hay… yhe masla iss jahil qaum ka hay jis ko aaj tak yeh he nahe pata kay humein larna kis se chaye…. eik sahaba ko naaaozobillha BHAGORA bolrha hay jasay wo 1400 saal baad aaj dubara paida hua ho. aap aisay logo ko apni safoo mein samjayein. aur kuch jahil humaray andar bhe hein jo shaan-e-sahaba mein HAZARAT ALI (RA) ke ghustaki kartay hein. samnay hotay tou moon tordeta dono kay. yeh koi tareeqa hay…..?
@ alishan kazmi
tumhari batein sun kar ghussa tou bohat aya magar mujhay ache tharan pata hay kay saray shia tumharay jaisay jahil nahe. mere gathering mein bhe bohat shia bhai hein jo sahaba ko acknowledge kartay hein aur humaray aqeeday ke bhe respect kartay hein. mein aun ka bhai hun aur wo mere. mein eik cideo link tumhein aisa bhejon ka kay tum apnay aap he zalil hijaogay jo saban tum nay SAHABA k lia istamal kere. tumhare apnay imam sahaba ko gali dene walo ko acha nahe samajtay. hum kabhe bhe HAZRAT ALI bibi FATIMA aale MUHAMMAD kay baray bura kesay sooch saktay hein? aur tum se mera eik sawal.
agar shaba itnay he buray thay tou tumhein mein batadun kay hazarat ali kay baito kay naam bhe abu bakar umar usman thay. kum se kum ause ka lihaz rakh lo jahil insan.
@alishan kazmi
tumhari baat ka jawab kay jo mulana ishaq ne kaha.
aap ko batadun kay wo ahle hadiths say taluq rakhtay hein. kaash tum aun ke dusree batein bhe bata dete agar tum nay apne chotay se dimag se samji hoti. aunho ne yeh bhe kaha kay shia sunni ulema jo khedein aun kay manay walay aun pe amal kreingain. ise lia phadda kyun? jo tumhara aqeda hay tum ausko mano aur jo humara aqeda hum aus ko.
na tum 1400 saal phele thay na hum
INSHALLAH qayamat mein zaroor pata lag jayega sub ko.
phadda aus se karao jo na shia hay na kafir aur har saal tumharay aur humaray NABI kay cartoon bana deta hay.
@k s khan bhai ap ne bilkul sahi famaaya hm kbi hmry ahly bait k liyai galt alfaz ni nikalty na inshallah qayamat tk nikaly gy ….. hm to ksm kuda paak ki mohbt rakhty he paak-e ahly bait se….
ek baat smj ni ati hzrat ali r.a k beto k naam per apny beto ka naam q ni rakhty tm jb k hzrat ali r.a ne umar r.a, usman r.a rakhy h jnb
@shia
Q. farz kro main tmhra haq cheen lu… tmhry bety ko mar du… (tmhryakedy k mutabik) kya tm jb b apny jo beta hoga uska naam shavez rakho gy …?
dil sy jwb dena hzrat ali or ahaly bait sy mohbt h to..?
Salam to all of u firstly safeer ap Jo differences khatam krne k leye Jo koshish kr rhe ho wo bht kabil e tareef ha ap is se andaza kro k hr koi ap ki tareef kr rha ha ap k leye ache comments pass kr rha ha sirf is waja se Jo muqadseen ki respect ki ap ne bt ki wohi is sare problm ka solution ha ab ap khud dekho k ap ab bi Shia hi ho ab bi sahaba ko ni mante ab bi immamt k kail ho ab apk views ne Sara senario change kr dia yehe mera point ha k ap ka aqeeda Jo bi ho bt koi dusra us se effect ni hona chahiae agr hr Shia ap jaise soch rakhe believe me HR Sunni bi us ko hmari trha appreciate kre ga sirf isi wja se ma allama jawad naqvi ko bht like krta hn baki Ali k leye hmara aqeeda to ye ha k Jo Ali se bugz rakhe ga ulte mu dozakh ma jae ga difference ye ha k hm immamt k kail ni un ki ye ahle bait ma se kisi ki gustaki ka hm soch bi ni sakte.K S khan ka role bi kabil e tareef ha baki sb bi masle ko positive le rhe hn which is a v gud sign and safeer all the very best for Ur exams.
Mujama al Fadail translate Munaqib shar e ashoob jild 2 page 376 , Ali ra na farmaia k jo yay na kahay k ma 4th khalifa hoon,us per Allah ki lanat, (yay shia book ha) kulfa e rashdeen ma koi ikhtalaf nahi tha, thanks umer for see u long time,
To all my muslim brothers and sisters, related with any sect.
Keep fighting with eachother, keep killing eachother, keep hating eachother, Mine and Your Allah and Rasoor (PBUH) must be so proud of us. Heaven is sure be reqarded to us. Bravo! we are truly potrayin ourselves as Best Humans and Moslems. Shia kafir, barailvi kafir, debonadi kafir in saab ka end kia hai kaun jeetay ga or kaun haaray ga? kia app logon k mutabiq kisi ko kafir keh daynay say woh haqeeqat main kafir hojata hai??? ya jisay Allah chahay nawazday or jis ka chahay imtihaan lay???
Meray bhaiyon gali dayna na tumhara shewa na tumharay Rasool (PBUH) ko pasand na kisi Sahaba R.A na kisi imam A.s nay is ki taleed farmai.
Yaad rakhon!!!! hum sab ka khula dushman shaitan hai or woh kaisay umation ko kaamyaab hota dekh sakta hai.
Shia, sunni ka jhagda unity and brotherhood of Muslims say bada hota too I am sure Ali A.S. and Umer R.A. nay khud hi solve kar lia hota or hum tak history kuch or hi phunchti.
Is waqt mamala kafir musalman ka nahi balkay saath main khaaday hokar batil ka muqabala karnay aur tarakii karnay ka hai.
Qayamat main Inshallah jab Huzoor PBUH say hauze Kausar per mulaqat hogi too app k saray sawaloon k inshallah sahih sahih jawab milay gay.
Baqi I am a man of little knowledge, have no intention to hurt anybodies feeling but it hurts when we as a muslim are victims of our own misery. Time is high to ignore the differences and sort out a common solution and focus on the big picture.
May God keep all you in peace and harmony.
Regards and best wishes.
A Better Kafir
Alishan kazmi tum na mari haqeeqat ka dubara phocha ha, aur again shajra e nasab ka bi, ma safeer e azza aur umer bahi ki waja say chup tha, lakin ab mujay pata chal gia ka ka tumari haqeeqat kia ha, tum khuminai ki haram ki aur mutta ki padawar ho, kisi rundi bazar ki padawar ho, shajra shajra pukar rahay ho, jo jumayrat ko pada hota ha wo tomara kazmi bun jata ha, tum kisi nali ki padawar ho,,,,,,,,,kuain dhundak parh gai, (VERY SORRY MR,SAFEER E AZZA AND UMER MY HERO, IS ZUBAN KA USE KARNAY KA) lakin yay ha hi is qabel,
Asslamualykum brothers ek baat sch bolta hu phly main shiaao ki trafdari liya krta tha …. main sochta tha yai b muslim bhai h bhatak gy h… yai matam krty h Allah kud es ka swal kry ga…
magr jb mera ek frd h wo en k bech main Rahta h yai saly lodiya baaz mohramo main majlis krty h en ki lodiya ly baji..or yai nabi pak ki biwi per tohmad lgty h astagfir ullah kafir h yai bhai …. salao muttah ki olad
O, Noker e hussain to waqie mutta ki padawar ha, maray swal ka jwab nahi dia, teri jud ta lanat, o rundi ki ulad, us umer ra ko gali dayta ha jis ko Ali na bati di,
Lannti h yai bhai na enka koi deen na koi imman kafir kafir kafir bs or kafir…
en sy to lakh guna hindu achy h yai kam se kam wo kandany mohmmad yaranay mohmmad per tabra to ni krty ….
yai harm k bej h…. sorry agR kisi ko meri baat buri lgy magr yai wo bzat qom na yai ali r.a ki h na yai hussian r.a ki salo apni kitb se proof kr do hzrat ali ne unki kilafat per kbi aitraz kiya ho…
hzrat ali ne apny beto ka nam umar abubkar rakha
hzrat immam hussan ne apny bety ka naam abubkar rakha …
hzrat abubkar ne janb syyadna bibi fatima r.a ki namaze jannaze phdai h…… kafiro kalma phdo kuda ek h sirf ek h wo h Allah … akri nabi ek h sirf ek h mohmmadur rasooul ALLAH ….. ks khan yai qaymat main kya muuh le kr jay gy ap s.a.w k samne ALLAH K SAMney k sari zindgi zinha kiya muttah k naam per
sari zindgi gali di tabrah k nam per…
namaz ni phdi matam k nam per …..!
Umer my hero,Safeer Azza,Shaven Alam, aj Allah ka fazzal sa aik bathak ma aik shia jo ka bohat zoor o shoor say sahaba per lanat (naozo billa) bahjta tha, us ki asi halat banai k wo toba kar ka dubara deen islam ma dakhal ho gaia, swal sirf yay tha k Ali ra ki koi farman ya kitab ya khutbay ma Abu Baker ra, Umer ra, Usman ra ki gustakhi ki ho, even Ali ra na Maawia ra ka khalaf bi koi bat nahi ki, jab Ali ra (jin ko khuda k darja bi datay hain) na koi sahaba ki gustakhi nahi ki to Ali ra ka mannay walay sahaba ki isqader gustakhi kartay hain, in ka maqam kia ho ga, yay ap loog fasila kar saktay hain, LABBAIK ALLAH HUMA LABBAIK, YA ALLAH MADDED, Allah ka sawa kisi say bi mangna biddat ha, Shirk ha, ya ma nahi mara Qurran farmata ha,
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Umer bhai agar ap LUBP study kerain to ap pe wazih ho ga k ye Forum Ahl e sunnat k khilaf he totally. Molana Tariq Jameel sahib se lay k sab ulama e haq ki toheen aur mazaq urana apna farz samajhta he. kia zaroorat he ikhtalafi masael ko forum main lanay ki magar ye forum continuously aisa ker raha he. ap visit kerain jahan kahen shia killing ka chota bara ya kisi qism ka waqia paish ae ye foran post ker daitay hain. armi k bhi ye khilaf hain supreme court ki toheen kertay hain.
Ye aksar Shia genocide k name se posts kertay hain k shia ka qatle aam ho raha he. magar umer bhai aik baat he k bahut kaha jata he k shia ko kafir na kaho inko qatal na ker etc etc etc.. bahut acha. magar koe shia se ye kuon nhe kahta k tum sahaba ki toheen na kero. insult pe insult kero aur aman ki baat bhi.. kia aqal tasleem kerti he aaisi baat ko? ap u tube open ker k daikhain k shia zakir kis kis tarah sahaba ka mazaq ura rahay hain. koe kahta he k Imam Abu huraira (R.A) ko to naooz billah apnay baap ka pta nhe tha. main beyan nhe ker sakta k ye log kitna bakwas kertay hain sahaba ko. phir bhi kaha jae k aman aman aman to phir ………
Salam to all yes I do agree with u Ahmed bro asl ma log problem ki shidat ko dekh rhe hn problm ki wja ko ni na problm k solution ko bemari ko dekh rhe hn bemari ki waja or ilaj ko ni aag ki shidat ko dekh rhe hn aag lgne ki wja or us pe qabu pane ko ni dekh rhe reaction ko dekh rhe hn action ko ni.ab Zara thori common sense use ki jae jis mulk ma aik bht bri majority k sahaba ko kafir murtid likha jae kutte k gale ma nam likh k dale Jain public toilet ma intihai chep comments likhe Jain pairo k neeche us k nam likh k social media pe upload keye Jain jaha literature ma ye likha jae k in k nam sharmgaho pe likhne chahiaen jaha umhat ul momnineen k bare ma aise comments likhe Jain Jin ko bolte hoe zuban larzne lagti ha waha peace ki bt krna mere khayal ma aik bht bra mazak lgta ha to be very honest ye reaction agr is pasmanzar ma dekha jae to bht km ha.hn jis ne aik insan ko qatal Kia us ne puri insaniat ko qatl Kia bt hmara sb se bra issue illiteracy ha Jo k HR burai ki root hoti ha yaha log aik 100 rupee ki khatir qatal kr dete hn illiterate zehno ma Jo chahe bhr do us mulq ma mazhab jaise intihai sensitive issue ko le k kisi ksm k reaction ko bi expect Kia jA skta ha.in 90s nawaz sharif k era ma Azam Tariq ne namoos e sahaba bill present Kia assembly ma bt usko ye kh k reject kr dia gaya k is se mazhabi munafrt bre gi agr wo bill pass ho jata to aj halt mukhtlif hoti nawaz sharif ne moulana Abdul sattar niazi k under committe bnai his ne bi is ka solution yehi dia bt usko bi ignore kr dia Gaya recently sahibzada fazal Karim ne bi namoss e sahaba ahle bait or um ul momneen k law ki recommendation di hn or yehi is masle ka pehla or akhri Hal ha aj se aik month bd aik sal bd 10 sal bd govment ne krna yehi ha to aaj hi kyo ni Abi is kam k leye or ktni qurbanio ki zarort ha????sawal ye ha k akhir wo kn si powers hn Jo is law ko pass ni hone deti ye wohi log hn Jo yaha peace ni chahte??? Jb Shia bi peace chahta ha Sunni bi to ye bill pass kyo ni ho sakta???? This is my question to all Shias n Sunnis
Umer bhai ap LUBP ki shrartain to daikhain k ye kis tarah ulamae ahle sunnat ki toheen ker raha he. Ap visit kerain iski posts aur khabasat daikhain. main apko link bhe send ker doon ga waisay lubp k. ooper kisi nay baat ki k shia ko court main challeneg kuon nhe kia jata to baat ye he k shia manazra k lye tayar hi nhe hotay bhag jatay hain. Sajjad ali shah case reopen hona chahye. sajjad ali sha k dour main try ki gae the namoos e sahaba ak lye and ganda literature jo sahaba k khilaf tha k roknay k lye. ooper ye baat bhi ki gae k sunni shia ho jatay hain. main nay kae shia ko sunni bantay daikha he. Allama Ali Sher hideri, Kefayat husain, and Sohail Abbas Naqvi etc. Sohail Abbas Naqvi to ahle sunnat main ab speeches bhi kerta he. allama Baqir bhi sunni hoe. Ap nay kitna narm behaviour rakha is k bawajood ap nay Ali Shan ka behaviour daikha kaisa toheen ameez tha. Umer bhai ap jo marzi ker lain shia hazrat nhe manain gay.
Umer sahib ap k swal ka jawab yay ha k sahaba, um al mominat, ahl bait ki gustakhi ka bill kabi pass nahi ho ga, bureaucracy yay honay nahi da gee, aur ap jantay hain k every dept ka head koon ha, aur yay jan booj kar kia ja raha ha, ap yaqeen karian ka India pakistan ka itna dushman nahi jitna Iran ha, KAZMI tum na dobara wohi shajra aur abaoo ajdad ka ziker kia ha, to tum ko barah naz ha na k tum kazam ki ulad ma sa ho, is tara ma bi kay sucta hoon k ma Musa as ki ulad ma sa hoon, tum dawa kartay ho all bait honay ka, to is sorat ma tum Abu Jahal, Abu Lahab ki bi ulad ho, aur jis par Allah na Qurran Majeed ma lanat bahji ha, aur tumary liay to bohat fakher ki bat ha k tum Abu Jahal aur Abi Lahab ki ulad ho, wo bi deen e islam ko khatam karnay ka liay din rat aik kartay rahay aur tum bi wohi kam kar rahay ho, charas ka soota laga kar ya ali mudded boltay ho, is ma Ali ra ki gustakhi ha, baqi tum na maray khoon ko gali di, lakin aik bat bhool gia k jis rundi bazar ma haram aur mutta ka bacha hota ha, us ko kazmi ka laqab datay hain, ab tum check kar layna k tum koon sa bazar ki padawar ho, O khabees kay bachay yahoodion na apnay abaoo ajdad par fakher kia tha wo zaleel huway,ab tum zaleel ho rahay ho, Khutba tul Wida ma Nabi e Pak saw na farmaya, kisi arbi ko kisi ajmi par fazeelat hasal nahi ha, ill al taqwa, islam ma har wo insan jis na (LA ILA HA IL LALA MOHAMMED DUR RASOOL LAL LA)parah lia wo muslman ha, kisi ma koi tafteek nahi, hamary islam ko hiduism ka sath mat joorho, jis ma zat pat ka concept ha,
Ahmed bhai
This is just for your information that i am also a shia. but mere bhai logo agar koi glat zaban istemal kar bhi raha hai tu app log q galt zaban istemel kar rahy ho. bhaio nafrat ko just piar say khatam kia ja sakta hai or main samajhta hoon k yehi hamary nabi (SAWW) ki taleem hai. Nabi Sab ko maaf karty rahy or ham larty ja rahay hai. Bhaio kehny ko sab kuch na kuch keh sakty hain. agar ham books otha k dekhain kisi bhi maslak ki tu hamain asi batain milain gi jo qabil e qabool na hon gi. bhaio 1400 sal guzar chukay hain. Allah nay just quran ki hifazat ka zimma lia hai or kisi kitab ka nahi. bhaio jo log kehty hain na k shia qyran main tehreef k qael hain wo galt baat hai. sab ki books main tehreef ki gai hai. Shio ki books main bhi tehreef hao hai or sunnio ki books main bhi. bhaio Quran aik hai, nabi aik hai tu ham q lar lar k pagal hoay ja rahy hain. bhaio zara ghoor say or aqal say kam lo. ham dosron k hathon ki katputli bany haoy hain. bhaio iss nafrat ko khatam karo or iss forum ko shia sunni fisad ki bajaey shia sunni itehad ka markaz bana ho. i hope k app sab iss baat ko samjhain gay. jo nafrat ki baat kar raha hai oss ko tawaja na doo. itehaad ki batain karo orr un ko discuss karo. sab ko Nabi (SAWW) ki ummat honay ka wasta hai.
Dear safeer yes everyone of us want peace bt as I said yesterday k hmara sb se bra problm illiteracy ha. Religion aik bht sensitive issue ha jis pe koi bi compromise ni krta Abi ye bt mane kl hi kehi aj Lahore ma apko prof bi mil Gaya ab btao is mulk ma peace kaise possible ha ab hmari aql ka andaza kr lo aik admi ki galti ki saza hm ne Lahore ma puri Christian community ko de di ye to hal ha isi wja se ma khta hn k aik law hi hmare problm ko durable solution ha. Dear KS khan is law ko oppose wohi log kr rhe hn Jo yaha peace ni chahte Jo chahte hn log apas ma lrte rhe.Dear Ahmed yes is form ka nam LUBP ni LUDP hona chahiae tha let us destruct Pakistan ye problm ko brha rhe hn deobandi militants or PTA ni Kia Kia in k articles to lgta ha sectarian war phelane k leye hn control krne k leye ni they should look into what they r doing.jb intention hi bias ho to ap problems ko khak solve kro ge.
Safeer e Azza, i agreed with u, ager tamam shia app jasay ho jaein to masla hal ho sakta ha, starting ma app aur muj ma bohat war hoi, lakin waqt ka sath app ma aur muj ma fark aaya, app na sahaba e karam ki ezat ki, i respect u, app na Qurran ko aik mana, i respect u, mayra bi sirf yahi paygam ha, aik Allah, aik Rasool saw, aik kitab Qurran e Majeed,,,,,,,,yar ager hum Abu Baker ra, Umer ra, Usman ra, ko manain aur Ali ra ko na manain to hum sa barah munafiq koi nahi ha, Ayshaha ra ko manain aur Hassan ra,Hussain ra ko na manain to hum sa barah munafiq koi nahi, aur jo in sub ko na manay wo is dunia k sub say barah munafiq ha, Umer i agreed with u what u said,
walykum asslam umar…
Asslamualykum all of u …
k.s khan apny thk bola h …..Hum ko mohbt h ahly bait se …… yaha etni bdi badi baat hvi gali galoch tak hvi h magr yaha 165 comment ho chuky h mera 166 wa cmmt h ap ek sunni ka comment bta do jis ne ahly bait ki behurmti ki h ksm kuda ki sunniyat naam h ahly bait ki mohbt ka ……… k.s khan yai kbi addmit ni kry gy apna mazhb sb ko pyra hota h magr ek baat h jis ko ALLAH hidayt de us per jannat wajib ap ne btaya mashallah ek bhai ne kalma phda …
ALLAHMDULILAH MAIN ahly sunnat wal jammat se hu…
main india se hu … ap ko ek wakiya btata hu abi kuch din phaly ek buzurg takribn 65sal ki age thi un ki… unko kalma tak phdna ni ata tha to un ko kalma btaya gya unhony kalma phda … usi din unki seny main dard hua pass ki mazit main jammat aai hvi thi waha k sathi bi unko dekhny aa gy fir unko doct. k lay jaya gya or unsy bola ap kalma phdty rhy esi halt main unka intaqal ho gya ….
to bhai ALLAH jis ko chay hidayt de
Hamra kam h unko sahi rah dikhna bs ab wo amal kry ya na kary wo unka or ALLAH ka masla h…… hm ne apna farz ada kiya han main admit krta hu mainy gali di galt kiya ….
lekin ksm kuda ki mainy bht brdsht kiya magr jb bilkul had ho gai tb ….k.s khan ALLAH MAaf kry hmney galt lagug use ki…. magr kya kry bardsht ki had hoti h…
khair ek baat h yai admit kry na kry en ki marzi kuda ne kya 2 azmat di h hmry sahaba ko…
ary jahilo etni to shrm kro tm bhok kis ko rhy ho …amma aysha r.a ko …
us usman r.a ko jo kuda ki rah main apna sb kuch luta diya 18 martba jannat kridi h hzrat usman r.a ne….
17 Martba jo farmaya usman r.a ne wo jebrail quran main ayat le kr aa gya …. or tm shak krty ho unk muslim hone per….
mainj ko rona or tm logo per tras ata h jb kya hoga tmhri jhoti rivayat sbit hogi wo ibne sabha lanti ……
ALLAH k rasooul ne frmaya ek martba mazit main dakil huai ap k 7 hzrat abubkar r.a or hzrat umar r.a dakil hvy ap ne un ka hath pakda farmaya jb qayamat ka din hoga aisy he hm 7 hogy …
ary jin hzrat ko hzrat ali r.a ne kbi glt ni bola ap log ksy bol skty ho
aao dekhau tmko shiao mohbt or ahtram hzrat umar r.a ka ahly bait e pakk se zara 2 min k liyai apna bguz nikal kr sunna…
EK martba hzrat hussian R.a or hzrat abdullah r.a ibne umar 7 main kel rhy thy bachy thy aps main lad pady or hzrat hussian ne farmaya tmhray aba mery baba k glum h …. hzrat abdullah roty 2 hzrat umar r.a k pass gy or unko btaya ap apny bety ko 7 le kr hzrat hussian r.a k pass gy un ko dekh kr hussain dar gy hzrat umar r.a ne farmaya tm ne bola h main tmhry aba ka gulam hu unhany han main jwb diya ap ne farmay hussian r.a ne thk bola h apney frmaya k yai baat likh kr mujy de do…. yai h wo pyr or izzat yai wakiya bukhari main h
Qurban jaoon Shaven Alam ap per, dil khosh kar dia, yay bilkol sucha waqia ha, Ibn e Sabah LA ka muzhab pay chalnay walo, Allah ka deen par chalo, sub ki respect karo, jub Ali ra na kisi ki mukhalfat nahi ki aur un ka pechay namaz parhtay rahay, to pher in loogoon ko kia taqleef ha, again Umer where r u
Syed Gazi Hussain Rizvi, ap na barhi achi bat ki ha, ager ap loog sahaba e karam ki ezit karna start karian, ham ap ko kafir nahi pokarain ga, hum kisi bi ahl al bayit ko lazam RA boltay hain aur likhtay hain, lakin ap loog sirf nam likhtay hain aur gustakhi bi kartay hain, NokareHussain sahaba ki kis tarah gustakhi karta ha, wo ap na dakha ha, ma ap sub sa aik swal karna chahta hoon, ager Abu Baker ra galat thay to un ki bait kuain ki, Umer ra galat thy to un ki bait kuain ki, Usman galat thay to un ki bait kuain ki, un ki Immamat ma namaz kuain ada ki, un kay wazeer and masheer kuain banay, un kay qazi kuain banay, even un ka jallad bi babay, aur tankhwa bi latay rahay, Ali ra na kabi bi koi complain daraj nahi karwai, apni bati Um Kalsoom ra Umer ra ka nikah ma di, ap loog har waqt sirf Fatima ra ka nam latay ho, Zaynab ra, Ruqia ra, Um Kalsoom ra, kay nam ap logoon ki zuban say nahi nikaltay, kia yay sharam ki bat nahi, in pak batioon ka saboot ma ap ki apni shia books sa da sacta hoon, ager koi demand karay, Qurran ma bar bar ziker ha k mudded sirf aur sirf Allah sa talab kar saktay ho, kisi sa mudded mangna shirk ha, ap loog Ya Ali mudded, Ali mushkal kusha, kia yay shirk nahi, kabi kisi na Ya Muhammed saw mudded pukara ha, nahi, ager hum Nabi E Pak saw jin ka liay yay dunia babi, un ko mudded ka liay nahi pukar saktay to dosray ki ko kuain, Allah ka wastay yay shirk khatam karo, kisi ko borah na kaho, sub ka muqadaseen ka ahtram karo, pher koi kisi ko kafir nahi kahay ga, ager ham Ayshah ra ki ezzat kartay hain to Fatima ra ka bi ahtram kartay hain, lakin ap loog un ki gustakhi kartay hain, jin ka liay sorat a noor nazil hoi, is ka mutlab ha ka Qurran ki gustakhi, aur Qurran ki gustakhi karnay wala koon hota ha, yay ap khud bata dain, Abu Baker ra ka ziker qurran ma ha Ur ap loog un ki gustakhi kartay hain, Allah ka liay fikr karo, Qurran ko mano, yay aik moojza ha k Qurran 1400 sal say aylan kar raha ha k ,,,MA NAY YAY KITAB UTARI AUR MA HI IS KA MAHAFIZ HOON,,,,,Allah ka farman qurran ma,,,,,ab bi hoosh ka nakhun lo, toba karo aur Islam ki sarbulandi ka liay kam karo, Qurran ka aik aur moojza dakho sirf 6 sal ka bacha qurran hafiz ha,
yaha jitny shia h ans do ab ks khan ka k bait q ki hzrat ali razitallah anhu ne kalifa e rashiden ki ..un k pechy namaz q phdi un k ammer q bny …..?
Ni de skty ap jwb
khair chota sa swal matam krty hvy jo mary ga wo jannati h …?.?
Salam to all of u today I would like to tell u why Umer (r.a)is my hero.let’s us look what non Muslims say about Umer ibn al Khatab according to Jews agr aik Umer or hota to Islam aj dunia ka sb se bra religion hota Jerusalem ko conquer krne k bd waha k Christians or Jews ko apni religion ki practice ki mukamil azadi di. Without any fear or threat ab Jo Kafiro k leye itna Narm dil ho wo muslmano k leye ktna Narm dil ho ga.Michael hart apni book 100 greatest men of the world ma Umer khatab ko second half ma 2nd number pe rakhte ha aik Jew 100 greatest men ma Umer khatab ko shamil kr k uski azmat ka iqrar kr rha ha aik Christian author Umer ko Gretest men ma 3rd no pe rakhta ha.aik German Christian woman ne Germany ma Umer khatab k leye mukhtlif language ma likhi gae 7000 se ziada books library ma collect ki hn she says I’m a Christian bt my hero is Umer aik French scholar ne us se pucha k tm Umer ko apna hero kyo khti ho she replied aik dafa aik shanks Umer k darbar ma aya khne lga k Egypt k governor or us k bete ne mjhay bht mara ha Umer ne order dia k governor or us k bete ko arrest kr k mugrim ki trha hazir kro jb hazier Kia to Umer ne governor se kha k tm se apni awan ko kb se gulam bna lia jb k in ki maa ne inko azad paida Kia. German woman said k dunia k kisi author writer scholar ne aj tak insano ki azadi k leye is se achi bt ni ki. Gandi ne 1937 ma congress k ministers ko simplicity k leye kha k ma tm ko ram or krishn ki missal ni de sakta bec wo historical personalities ni hn bt majborn ma tmko Abu bakr or Umer ki misal deta hn itni bri saltnat k haqim hone k bawojood unho ne faqeerana zindgi guzari.ab btao jis Umer (r.a)ko non Muslim hero khte hn ma muslman ho k Umer (r.a)ko hero kyo na mano.
Walykum asslam umar my hero….
brother ur correct …. yai he to h jo apni zindagi guzar gy hmry liyai roll modal bn k….
aj mery chacha ne ek kisa btaya dekh lo faisla ap ka…
jb hzrat umar r.a ameer ul muuminen thy tb ka waqiya h..
ek dafa hzrat umar r.a qutba krny k liyai khaday huy to ek muslim ne ap ki chaadar pkad li or farmay ameer apny 2 chadar odi h …. or hmry pass ek h… to ap ne farmaya es ka ans mera beta yani hzrat abdullah r.a degy ….
to hzrat abdullah ne farmaya jab maly ganimat se jo mujy chadar mili wo mainy apny walid ko hadiya kr di …..subhanallah
ek wakiya or h
ek martaba hzrat abdullah r.a ne apny abba yani hzrat umar r.a ki dawat kri
ap k samney dastarkhan bechaya gya ap ne farmaya yai to 2 salan h….ek gosht or dusra ghee main ni khauga
hzrat abdullah ne frmaya darasal yai 2 dinr main jo gosht ata maine 1 dinar main kch halka gosht liya or 1 dinar main ghe liya to es trha 2dinar main yai 2 salan h …. to ap ne khana na khaya ap ne kbi 1 bar main 2 salan jamma na kiya yai h hmra ammer….. 🙂
Well come Umer my hero, ap ka anay sa light on ho gai, Shaven Alam ap na bohat khobsorat waqiaat batayay hain, Allah ap ko khuch rakhay, this is my challenge that (ager Umer ra na hotay hum aj hindo hotay) aik new bat suno, Balgiam jo k aik christian country ha, un ka constitution ma likha ha (WE ARE FOLLOW THE UMER’s LOWS) UN ka constitution ma 15% articals Umer ra ki islahat ma sa lee hoi hain, chalo shia loog to Umer ra ka dushman hain, kyun k Umer ra na Iran ki ient say ient baja di, un ki hazaroon sal porani Majoosi Shahanshahiat ko barbad kar dia, Iran isi liay Umer ra ka khalaf ha, yay to bat hoi shia ki, lakin hum nam nihad sunni loog bi Umer ra ka liay 5% kam na kar sakay, pakistan ma jan booj kar Ali ra ka parchar kia jata ha (i m not against Ali ra) songs, qawalion ma ap sun saktay hain, dama dam must kalander, ali da pahla number, panjtan pak da sadqay, ya Ali mudded, Ali mushkal kusha, aik shia ager qatal ho jata ha(ma qatal ka khalaf hoon) to shia men and women apnay heads par * LABBAIK YA HUSSAIN * likh kar all pakistan media ma 24 hours dekha dekha kar sada loo muslams ko wargalaia jata ha, yad rakain (YA ALLAH MUDDED KA ALAWA SUB SHIRK HA)
Brother ks khan good job ap ki age kya h main kch btana chta hu jsy apny baat ki zahir h ap muj sy bday h age main main 23yr ka hu ALLAHMDULILAH
ap ko eik baat btata hu shia sunni ni h ….
main face book per hu mera ek frd h vicky singh ab wo muslim h usney naam rakha h javed milad … he convert his religion now he is our Muslim brother since one yr…
us ne muj se ek swal kiya ksm kuda ki mujy us ko ans dety hvy shrm b aai or rona be halaki k ans de diya us ka
swal kch aisy tha…
Bhai hm muslim h ?
I said yes ALlahmdulilah..
brother hum eik q ni h es ka fayda gair muslim utaaty h..?
yai shia kon h yai sunni kon h yai wahabi kon h yai brelvi kon h yai ahly haddies kon h…??
hm to muslim h eik hony chyai…
ksm sy mujy jwb dety dukh b hua apni qom per hum itny begairt ho gy k nabi ka rasta chod diya nabi ki sunnat chod di ……sahaba ikram ki izzat nai krty… baat shia sunni ki ni hmri qom ki h…
hm to us ummat k log h jin ko dekh kr log imman le aay … wo sahaba jinohny apni jaan di apna qoon bhaya deen k liyai wo sahaba eikram ka sabut dena pdta h k wo muslim thy …
ALLAH K WASTY tmhry agy hath jodta hu sahaba se mohbt kro chlo tmhra dil main bugz h to mohbt na sahi magr unk kilaf glt baat mt kro
Salam to KS khan n Shavez Alam ma aik qisa share kr rha hn phle bi kr chuka hn bt for Shavez.langer lga hoa tha sb us k laziz khane se mehzoz ho rhe thae aik shaks aya langer taqseem krne wale se kha mjhay 2admio ka langer do langer dene wale ne kha sb aik aik admi ka le rhe hn tm 2 ka kyo mang rhe ho wo shaks khne lga aik apne leye or dusra us maskeen bazurg k leye Jo door betha phate purane kapro ma sukhi roti pani ma bhigo k kha rha ha langer taqseem krne wale ki ankho ma ansu aa gae or wo us shaks se khne lga Bhai Jo tm langer kha rhe ho wo usi bazurg ki trf se ha wo koi or ni Ameer ul momneen Abu bakr (r.a) hn.isi leye to ma khta hn k agr aise modest log momin ni to dunia ma koi bi momin ni .isi trha jb Umer ra shaheed hoe to door daraz k ilaqe ma aik shepherd chrawaha dorta hoa aya or logo se khne lga k logo Umer ra ab is dunia ma ni hn log khne lge tm itne door rhte ho tmko kaise PTA khne lga k ma roz apni bakrio ko chrata tha aj tk kisi darinde ki jurt ni hoe k mere bakrio ko kush khe bt aj aik Woolf bharia mere aik bakri ka bacha Utha k le gaya uski jurat se ma ne Jan lia k aj Umer is dunia ma ni hn ab Jin k adal k samne janwar bi kanpte thae agr wo momin ni to dunia ma koi bi momin ni. KS khan Shavez Ahmed doing v good.
Walykum asslam
jazak allah mera wo uper ka cmmt adhura rh gya nxt tym wo kissa pura kruga ….us main shaan e farooqi nazar aai gi jb b koi parday main gair mehram dekhta hu mujy rutba e farooqi r.a per fkar mehsus hota h ….. 🙂
Shavez ap na apni age 23 years bata di, to is sorat ma ap maray batay Hassan ki age ka hain, ab ap bi maray batay ho, Allah ap ko lumbi umer da, Ameen, ma aik aur bat not karain, mari mother ka nam Fatima tha (Allah un ki magfarat karay) batoon ka nam Hassan, Ali, Usman, bation ka nam, Ayshah, Zainab ha, ma un shia logoon sa aik swal karta hoon, khas kar Kazmi rafdi say, hum loog sub ka ahtram kartay hain, tum logoon ka dil ma bugiz ha, Ameer Maawia ra na islami haqoomat 65 lakh muraba mile tak qaeim ki, Hassan ra na un ki bait ki, maray aik aur swal ka jawab do, Ali ra na apnay dor a kalafat ma kitni zameen islamic haqoomat ma shahmal ki, Hassan ra ni kitni ki, Hussain ra na kitni ki,Hazrat Zain ul Abdeen na kiti ki, Hazrat Jafir,Hazrat Sadiq, Hazrat Mohammed, Hazrat Raza, Hazrat Musa Kazim, Hazrat Taqi, Hazrat Naqi, na kitni ki, ham in tamam hazrat ka ahtram kartay hain, lakin swal ha ka in logo na islam ki sarhadoon ko barhanay ma kia kirdar ada kia, yay hamaray kulfa e rashdeen aur sahaba e karam thay jo islamic borders ko Iran, Egpt, Sham, Marakish, Iraq, Africa, Afganistan, Capras aur na janay koon koon sa mulkoon tak la gaey,,,,,,,,,,,,,aik dafa Umer ra ko aik case ma court ma bulaia gaia, ap jab adalat ma enter huway to Qazi un ka ahtram ma kharah(stand up) ho gaia, to Umer ra na qazi ko farmaia k tum na maray ahtram ma kharah ho insaf kia khak karo ga, ya ha insaf ka bol bala, isi liay to hamary piaray Nabi saw na un ko FAROOQ ka laqb dia, jis na apnay batay ko moot ki saza sunwa di, ha koi un jasa insaf karnay wala, Usman ra ka qatleen Midina ma dandanaty phartay thay, Mohammed Bin Abi Baker, Malak Bin Ashtar, Abdul Rahman Bin Adees, Kanana Bon Basher, Umer Bin Hamaq, Hakim Bin Jabla, Sudan Bin Sarhan, Yasar Bin Ayyad, Aswad Tajeebi, Gafqi Bin Harb, Umaeer Bin Dhabi, Abn Nabah, ya sub qatleen e Usman thay, aur yahi loog bad ma Ali ra ki army ma high post par fayez huway, in sub ko bad ma Ameer Maawia ra na kutay ki mot mara, aur aik ko Hajaj Bin Yousif na qatal kia, jo bi qatal Usman ra ka qatal ma shahmal tha Allah Subhan Wa Taala na dunia ma un ko saza da di, baqi inshah Allah qiamat kaa roz milay gi, Mohammed Bin Abi Baker ko donkey ki skin ma band kar aag lagai gai, is sa ziada zaleel mot kia ho gi, damad Rasool saw ka qatloon ka yayhi injam hona chahiay,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Umer, Shaven, Ahmad , Safeer, thanks for sporting,
Asslamualykum ks khan sahab ap mery walid k umar k aj se ap ko chacha bulauga ap ko itraz to ni h na….
ap ne jo baat boli h thk boli h magr hm en zalil logo k liya apny liyai jahamn tyr ni kry gy main en sy tb tak debate krta hu jb tk yai apni zabn se gandgi bhar na nikaly yani (gali ) jo en ka mzhab h ….
hum sunni chahy kitna b chay yai ni sudharny waly yai tb sudhry gy jb puri duniya main islamic rule aa jay gy wo hoga issa A.S k dor main …
bhai yai un pakk e ahly bait ki aadh lety h … jo hmry liyai mukadas h ….mujy ek kisa en ko hzrat ali r.a ne h kafir krar de rahkha h ….
hzrat ali r.a ne farmay 2 log islam se btak ky gy ek mery bugz main
2ry meri had se zada mohbt main ….
ab kud he faisla kry
ks khan shab. ….. main jitny be shia se puchta hu ans ni dety bhag jaty ya baat gol kr jaty h
main fir swal dohrata hu sb shiao se swal h kya wo jannati h jo matam krty huvy mary …?
Shavez ap mujay Chacha bol saktay hain, i happy, baqi ma in ko haqeekat bata raha hoon, in logoon na ahl al bait sirf 4 hazrat ko bana dia ha, jo ka galat ha, ahl al bait ma Hazoor saw ka gar walay maqsood hain, Um al Muminat sub sa awal, dosri bat, yay log Fatima ra ko only Hazoor saw ki bati mantay hain, Qurran ma ha, YA NISA A KUM WA BINATO KUM AL NABI saw,,,ab binato kum arabic translation ka mutabic more than 2 daughters hota ha, is lia yay qurran ki gustakhi kar rahay hain, ager sirf Fatima ra aik bati hoti to Qurran ma, BINTAK, ata, LANAT ALLAH AL KAZIBEEN,,,,,,
all respected members aik dosry ko q galt sabit karny pay tulay hoay hain app sab. plz muhabbat bantain nafrat nahi. meri help karain. mery maqsad pay pani na pharain. jo jis jis ko manta hai manta rhay. dosry ko na charay. bhaio app ko kis nay keh dia k jab khulfa e rashdeen ki khilafat ka elan hoa tha tu sab ashab nay bait ki thi. bhaio read history jis jis ko shoq hai but authentic history parhain. aik baat batata hon app sab ko jab Ali(AS) ki khilafat ka elan hoa tha tu hazrat Umer k son nay jin ka naam Abdullah bin Umer tha unhon nay Ali (AS) ki khilafat ko man’ny say inkar kia tha. unhon nay bait nahi ki thi tu kia wo kafir ho gaey thay, nahi bilkul nahi. tu bhaio aik dosry ko kafir kehnay walay ham koi nahi hoty. plz be religious but not extremist. it is my humble request to all.
Safeer welcom, ap wahid aik good shia hain, jo bat galat kartay hain lakin adab ka dairay ma, ap ki yay bat achi lagti ha, ap na kaha k sub na bait nahi ki, ok ma tasleem karta hoon, wo loog fingers pa ginay ja saktay hain, lakin only for some days, ab aik hawala / Al Jama Al Kafi, Kitab Al Rodha, Immam Jafer ka arshad,,,,Mohammed saw ki wafat ka bad sub loog ARTAD (kufir) ma chalay gaiy sirf 3 ashkhas ka, Maqdad bin Aswad ra, Abu Zar Gafari ra, aur Suliman Farsi ra, ab ap batian yay shia ki muqadas treen kitab ha,(is ma aik aur swal ha ka sirf 3 sahaba, baqi ahl e bait kidar gaiy aur wo kis maqam par thay) ap na kaha ka Abdullah bin Umer na Ali ra ki bait nahi ki, janab lakhoo logoon na nahi ki thi, aur ap jantay hain k Usman ra ka safakana qatal huwa tha, aur qatal koon thay(see my comment) aur Ali ra ka farman / Nahaj Al Balaga, page 507, HUM YAMLIKONANA WA LA NAMLIKOHUM,,,,,,means ka qatal hamary malik banay huway hain hum un ka malik nahi hain,,,,,,safeer sahib ma na yay dono hawaly ap ki books sa diay hain, safeer sahib ap kaytay hain ka nafratian ka khatma hona chahiay to is ka aik hi hal ha, purani sub batoon par MITI PAOO aur Aik Allah, Rasool saw, aik kitab Qurran pa amal karo, arbi sekho ta k Qurran ko samaj sako, Inshah allah sub dheek ho jaay ga, safeer sahib ملايكه(angel) انبيا(nabi) ka darja jab sahaba e karam say kam kar dia jaay to Allah bi naraz hota ha aur muslims bi (if u want i will give u the reference from your shia books)
Asslamualykum to all
saffer ap boly to magr afsos h ap ko deen e Islam k bary main he pta ni h……
ap ne jaug e jabbal suni hogi na …… yai jaug hzrat aysha r.a or hzrat ali r.a k bech q hvi h ap ko yai ptaa h ?
aik dosry py kufr k fatwy lgany walo…kisi aik hadees sy ap S.A.W. ka ya sahaba karam R.A. ka shia ya sunni hona sabit krdo…apni language dekho ap log or jin ko defend kr rhy ho aik dosry k samny un k frmoodat mae sy aise language dkha do…mery samny ye hadees hai k Allah ke rassi ko mazboti sy thamy rkho or tafarqy mae mut pro… tm log kyn aik dosry ka gala kat rhy ho… apny mamoli ikhtlafat ke wja sy sari dunya k sath sath tm log khud bhi apny dushmun bny hoye ho…wake up guys tm logo ko aapis mae larany wala kam az kam tmhara koi khair khwah nhi ho skta
bhai shahvez jang e jamal hazrat ayesha or hazrat ali k beech main hoi thi. or han jamal ka matlab oontni hai. or kuch bhai.
KS bhai main bhi tu kab say yehi keh raha hoon k piar banto nafrateen khatam karo or kuch nahi. jahan tak hawalaon ka taluq hai tu hawalay har book say diay ja sakty hain. main bhi bohat sary day sakta hoon hawalay. but i want peace. i want love in our society. thats it. or iss sab ki aik bari yay bhi hai k ham log iss nafrat ki waja say bohat mutasir ho rahy hain or mian khas tor par bohat he buri tarha say mutasir hoa hoon or ho raha hoon or pata nahi kab tak hon ga. Bas Allah say yehi iltija hai k wo meri aazmaeshon ko khatam kar day.Ameen
Safeer sahib, ap na jamal ka mutlab oontni likha ha, lakin wo oont hota ha, oontni ko arabi ma NAQA kaytay hain, ma bi yahi chahta hoon, kisi bi sahaba ko borah mut kaho, kisi ahl e bait (sirf 4 nahi sub ahl al bait) ko burah mut kaho, khud bakhud nafratain mit jayien gi, ab jub sahaba ki gustakhi itni bayhahyaie sa ho gi to ghusa to aiy ga, aj tak kisi muslim na kisi Ahl al Bait ( 12 immams jin ko shia loog sirf Ahl al Bait mantay hain) ki gustakhi nahi ki, lakin is plateform par ap na khud dakh lia k kis tara sahabi ki ezit par attack kiay jatay hain, acha safeer aik aur bat batao, jub Kadiani (Ahmdi) mirza gulam ahmad wahi ka kayta ha to hum aur ap un ko kafer qarrar datay hain, lakin jub ap immams ki bat kartay hain k un par wahi ati thi aur ha to ap pher bi, mumineen hain, Qurran ma zikr kuain nahi aaya, Qurran ma to har cheez ka zikr ha, ma ya bat ap sa isliay kar raha hoon because ap ma insaniat ha, zara socho, wahi ka silsala Mohammed saw ki wafat ka waqat hi stop ho gaia, pher ap kis tarah kahtay hain k immams Allah nominate karta ha, aur un par wahi ati ha, wahi sirf aur sirf انبياء اكرام par hi ati ha, aur ya ma nahi Qurran Al Majeed farmata ha, jub Allah Subhan wa Taala Qurran ma farmatay hain /قل انا بشر مثليكم / jub Hazoor saw ko farma dia k kah do ma bi tomari tarah ka insan hoon lakin muj par wahi ati ha, to jo Nabi saw Habib Allah hain, Sardar e Unbia hain, Sardar e Do jahain hain, ko ya hukam a sakta ha to pher dosaray koon hotay hain, qurran pa yaqeen karo, us ki talimat par amal karo, us k liay arabic sekho, aik aur bat, kisi bi hadees ko Qurran k filter ma sa guzaro ager Qurran k mutabiq ha to yaqeen karo warna udha ka phynk do, YA ALLAH MADDED , ALLAH MUSHKAL KUSHA’ Ali hi hamaysha qaim ha, hazer wa nazer ha baqi sub fani hain,
han tu main iss baat pay app say agree karta hoon k App(SAWW) k baad wahi ka silsila band ho gaya hai. dear aik baat dehan main rakhao k app ki sihah e sitta main bhi tehreef hai or hamari books bhi tehreef say khali nahi hain or yay tehreef un logon nay ki hai jo muslims ko aik nahi dekhna chahtay. thats is why zarorat iss baat ki hai k ham unn tamam baton ko jo larai ki waja hai chor dain q k wo hamary dushman ko khush karti hain or hamain kamzroor.
or han aik baat or, or wo yay k kuch log hain jo Hazrat Ali (AS) ko Allah kehty hain. bhai wo nuseri hain. or shion ka koi taluq nahi onn say. wo mushriq hain. jesy k Ali (AS) ka apna qol hai k “Aik garoh aesa ho ga jo muj say bohat ziada muhabat kary ga magar wo jahanum main jaen gay” bhai wo log yehi nuseri he hain q k wo Ali (AS) ko Allah manty hain jo k galt hai. app onn ko hamary sath na milaen or na milaya karain.
Bas itefaq say rehnay ki baat karain. bhai main bhi bohat sari batain yay naey naey points otha sakta hoon but main nahi othana chahta. main iss sab ko jo larai ki waja hai dabana chahta hoon. q k jis tarah main suffer kar raha hoon na main nahi chahta k koi bhi or suffer kary. mil k rahain gay ham tu strong rahain gay otherwise ham khud he aik dosry ko tabah kar dain gay.
Regards
Safeer e Azza
I agreed with u safeer, isi liay ma Qurran ka samajnay par zoor data hoon, chalo hum apas ma malomat par discus kartay hain, Qurran ma ha / و اغرقنا ال فرعون و انتم تنظرون / aur hum na Faraon aur us ki qoom ko darya ma dubo dia aur tum dakh rahay thay,,,,,,ab yahain ,ال , Faraon ki qoom ko mukhatib kia gia ha, isi tara /ال ابراهيم / Ibrahim AS ki qoom ko kaha gia ha, lakin shia loog aur maybe you also, ال محمد / sirf shia ko samajtay hain, jo k Qurranic translain ka mutabic nahi ha, HAR WO INSAN JO ALLAH, MOHAMMED SAW, AUR QURRAN PAR IMAN RAKHTA HA WO ALL E MOHAMMED SAW HA, Umer, Shaven, Ahmed u also think about it and reply,
App ko kis nay keh dia k Tamam Shia aal e Muhammad (SAWW) hain. bhai ham aal e Muhammad (SAWW) unn ko kehty hain jo app (SAWW) ki zuriat hain yani unn ki olad hain. bhai dekho app log kehty hain app (SAWW) ki 4 betian theen. bhai aap mje bataen k kon kon si beti thi jo Nabi (SAWW) ki onn kikisi wife say ho. na k wo beti jo app (SAWW) ki kisi wife ki pehly say ho.
Orr han bhai ham iss tarha k topics discuss karny chahiay but aik dosry k jazbat ka lehaz karty hoay.
Orr han bhai islam ki khidmat just zameen add karny say tu nahi hoti na. agar kisi nay 65 lakh murabba meel add ki tu app zara yay bhi parhain k unn k dor main kia kia hoa hai. app nay unn k time ki history parhi hai kia. Bhai molana modoudi k Khilafat o Malookiat parhi hai kia app nay. plz parhain.
Orr han KS aik cheez or. app nay oper khud e keh dia k Muhammad bin Abi bakr(RA) ko donkey ki skin main band karwa k aag laga di gai. bhai kia app mje bataen gay k yay kon sa islam hai. kis islam main iss tarha ki saza di jati hai. kis islam main hain k apny mukhalif ko qatal kar k aag laga do. bhai Islam tu yay nahi kehta k app Kuffar k sath bhi asa salook karo. islam tu kehta hai k apny mulkhalif ko jab qatal k lo tu onn ki laash k sath koi bura salook na karo. on k chehray na bigaro. etc etc. bhi wo tu phir bhi muslim thay. Hazrat Ayesah k bhai thay. Hazrat Abu bakar app k pehly khalifa e rashid k bety thay. unn k sath asa salook yay tu kuffar ka tareeka ho sakta hai muslims ka nahi. chalo mje aik or baat app bataen just yay k kia kisi khalifa e rashid k dor main asa hoa. kia hazrat umer jo k kafi gusay waly thay kia unhon nay kabhi kisi kafir ko bhi koi asi saza di. kisi ki dead body ko jalaya. bhai jan app ko shayid pata nahi hai k jab Muhammad Bin abi Bakr(RA) k sath asa salook kia gaya tha or jab hazrat Ayesha (RA) ko iss ki khabar hoi thi tu onhon nay Mavia pay lanat ki thi. bhai aik baat or baen k Mavia nay islam kab kabool kia. kitny time wo Nabi (SAWW) k sath raha. or zara yay bhi baten k islam main badshahat ka aghaz kab say hoa.
Mery bhai agar kisi bhi baat ka bura laga ho tu i am sorry.
Or han hajjj bin yousuf k bary main shayid Hazrat Umer bin Abdul Aziz k jo remarks thay wo bhi send karon ga main app ko. bhai History jo parhain without any biasedness.
KS app mery bhai hain or app he nahi tamam birdran e ahl e Sunnat mery bhai hain. but kisi ki galti ko galt kehna chahiay or agar kisi non-muslim nay bhi acha kam kia hai tu osko acha kehna chahiay.
Safeer sahib, Qurran ki bat galat ho sakti ha ? Jab Qurran ma / بناتكم يا نبي / ha to more than two betian hoti hain aur yah ma ap ko ap ki apni kitab ma say bata raha hoon, jub Zaynab ra ki wafat hoi to Hazoor khud qaber ma dakhal huway aur apnay hatoon sa dafan kia, ab bata dain k ager apni bati na hoti to kasay hath lagaty, aur 2 betian ki Usman ra say shadi ki jis ki waja sa Usman ko ZO AL NOORAIAN ka khatab mila, aur aik bat ap kafi samajdar hain, ulad chalti ha batoon say, aur Nabi e Pak saw ka 3 batay wafat pa gaiy, ab betian sa ulad nahi chalti, ap na / ال فرعون / jo k Qurran ma ha k us ka mannay walay, /ال ابراهيم / Ibrahim AS ko mannay walay, ab ap apni dafa / ال محمد / ko sirf un ki ulad kahty hain, baqi Mohammed bin abu baker ki ap na bat ki, jub us ko jalaya ja raha tha to un ka sakay bahi Abdur Rehman bin Abu Baker bi jalanay waloon ma shamal thay, app qatal Usman ra ko pee gaiay, is ka ziker tak nahi kia, 40 roze tak jis ko bokha piasa rakh kar shaheed kia gaia,rozay ki halat ma shaheed kia gaia jo water well unhoon na yahodi sa khareed kar muslim ka liay waqaf kar dia us ka pani bund kar dia gaia, qurran ki talawat kartay huway shaheed kia gaia, aj bi wo qurran turky ma un ki mazlomiat sabat karta ha, aj tak kisi shia na un ka qatal ki muzamat nahi ki, ab shaied ap yay bi kay dain ka Usman ra ka gar Hazoor ki sagi betian nahi the, aik aur bat jab Usman ra ko shaheed kia gaia to baher pahray par Hassan ra aur Hussain ra thay, aur ap ki kitab ap ka hawala Hassan ra na kitni shadian ki, jantay hain, more than 300, ap na Hajjaj bin Yousif ka likha to wo koi farishta nahi tha, us sa bi mistake ho gai ho gi, lakin sirf aik larki ka pokarnay par us na Mohammed bin Qasim ko Debal bahj dia jo us ka bhatija aur damad tha, aur us na Raja Daher ki hazaroo sal strong haqoomat tabah kar di, hum jo aj India, Pakitan, Bangadas ma musaman hain to sirf Allah ka bad Hajjaj bin Yousif ki badolat, Qurran pa ahrab kis na lagway Hajjaj bin Yousif na, safeer sahib Nabi mahsoom hota ha, baqi koi mahsoom nahi, un sa galtian ho sakti hain, ap na likha ka sirf area fatha kar lanay sa islam ki khidmat nahi hoti, to janab Ali ra ko choor ka ap ka koon sa ahl e bait na kitni zameen fatah ki aur islam ki haqoomat kitni wasee ki, baqi ap apnay dalial da rahay hain aur ma apnay, aur na hi mara kisi ki insult karna ha, yay haqeeqat ha,
mera chalenge ha k sab shia najayez paida howe ha Muharam k dino behan aur ma ka kch lehaz nahe ejtamai nekah hota ha per gorey k nechay jesay zol jinnah shia kehta ha aur us rat ko shamee ghariba ab koi aik bata jo 1 bap ka ho DNA test ma per 5 mint ma malom karwata ho.
Phudi ma ki teri
Slae kutte tum log wo koom ho Jis k na agay koi hai na peeche bin lagaam ke kutte. Zara pata karna wo 3 idiots kitne Bapoon ki awlaadein thin. mawia ki nasal…..
Behn k loray zara ye to bta k jtny chakly hain larkio waly jaha pe tm log jaty ho wo sb larkia shia q hti hain lahore ki heera mandi example hai is ki
oy saaly apni oqaat m reh mujhy janty ni ho m aap ka sihaba ikraam ko bura bhala ni kehna chahta.Hmara aga pixha hy lekin tmhara koi aga picha ni hy.
kameny.tum to mujhy haramzaady lagty hokatry katry k lgty ho koi katra tmhari maan ny kahen sy lia aur koi kahen sy aur uss sy tm jaisa gashti ka baxha bna samjhy tum koi prblem ho to mujh sy contect kro.behn chood.
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Q k wo islam ki chadar ma bachna chati hai aur tm tw halala karty hu haramiyon haram ki awlod itny begerat hu teri ma ny b kia hu ga halala pochin ja k
Harami kuta bhanchud
Teri bhen da phuda kisi ghasti diya putra tu aik wari aa k wekh ta sehi bhen ch0da teri bhen nu yawan main ap
yeh jo shia hain yeh sab kutti ki aulad hain yeh majoosi abne majoosi jin ki behan ko ummer e faroque ne bans dia tha wo islam se badla lene ki koshshish karte hain api behnoo ki phudi pharwa ke.
Beta tera qasoor ni h qasoor os dalli bnu omeya ka h jis ki to nasal h bc gando .koe khuda ka khoooof kr maloooon ki olad Rasool as k nawase ko to apne gar k karoobar se mila rha h .
mader chod haram kjanay lund k bachay phaly apnay bap kitadad gin kiyoun k teri maa ki phudi main drd ho raha hay bharway harami teray woh teno lanti jin ka tu mureed hay un ki koi ek fazilat bata siwaye gand merwanay k unhon nay kuch nahi kiya
Teri tuja pata he k teri maa n kis kis k laan chosa he wo subah gali m khari ho jati jo b aata he wo us ki lata he es lie tu tyje tamiz ni he tare 100 se b zaida baap he hamit he tari maa ki
Teri maa ki phudi me lun du tu khud qatry qatry sy mil k bna hua hy jo aesa keh rha hy teri behin ko chodu gashti k bachy shiya k khilaf bat krta hy tujy apni maa ka pta hy jis ny na jany kitny lun liay or tu harami peda hu lanat teri behin dy jhuthy ty kutti dxa bachya.
ary bhai kabhi ap majlees me 10 muharam ky din ky dekho to sahi ap ko pata chaly ky ap ki bat sahi hy ka ghalat
yazid ki koom ho tum kaya jano hussain kaya hay kutay kay bachay tari ma or bhan ka phuda mera bhai lay kar bhagh gaya gashti daiya bala jo tuna apne ma judia mera bhai tari baty ko lay kar bhagh jay ga tari ma or bhan ko mera bhai un ki bund phar day ga maray bap kay mulazim ka nam hizbullah khan hay sub shia to paida huway lakin tumari ma ka phuda marnay kay leya hizbullah khan pad kam mara karo lagta hay aj kal boht ur rahay ho aisa lagta ha tumari bagi ka rista or phuda kisi nay nahi leya hizbullah soooooooo lakh di lanat taray tay.
kusbullah tari BATI BV or tari MA kay buday KUSSY ma kotay kay lund vaju yazid ki KOM tuj pay lanat bay shummarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr KUSBULLAH KHAN…….
Bakwas mat kro Dalel pr baat kro aao mein tumhen challenge krta hon agr Muslman ho to apny aap ko sabit kro Gali dena to Harami ki alamt h
Kuti ma kar Bach tari ma ko yazeed na choda ta tu phar to harmi pada ho.delay .sha ko kafer kahna wala khud kafer ha .Jo hussian a.s ka dusman humra dusman
jin kambakhton ka leader khud waladuzzinah ibne waladuzzinah ho woh auron kay baray main jo kahen lekin unki haqeeqat kisi say posheedah naheen .
Aur is baat ka saboot khud inkay mashoor historian Mohd. Saeb al Kalbi nay apni kitab Al Salabata fi Marefatah Sahabah main Likha hai ki kaisay ek charwaha couple tanhai me milay uskay nateejay main DOEM kay baap paida huay jinhonay upni maan say ek aulaad paidah ki jo badi hui to usi say shaadi kar li .
ziadatar ahkaam e deen main bidatain bhi unheen ki eijaad hain jiska nateejah Abu horairah ki ek hadees say milta hai ki kaisay farishtay sahabah ko jahannum ki taraf ghaseet kay lay ja rahay hain.
bar jhangvi kutte pa lanat bar haq nawaz bar wahabi bar deoband kafiron pa lanat
KHOMENI ZINDABAD JHANGVI KUTTA MUTTA KI OLAD MURDABAD
HAN TO NAJAIZ PEDAWAR HA JHANGVI KUTTE KI TERE BHEN KO TO KHUD BECH TA HA JHANGVI KI NA JAIZ OLAD KUTTA SALA NAAM DEKH KAAM DEKH BHARWA
Alishan m na mutta ka baray ma 8 swal kiay thay, lakin LUBP aur ap na wo delete kar diay, ager ap ko wo swal yad hain to jawab do, kuain ka muta ko ap ka firkay ma bohat barah rukin e imani manty hain, kisi ahl bait na kia ha, hawala dain, ya pher muta ko haram mano with out taqia,
mery bhai bukhari shareef k mutabiq mutah jaiz hyy
madr chod k bchy bukhari shareef ka hawala bej js ma yeh jaiz likha hua tari behn se pjr ma mutta krta hun agr jaiz ha to heera mandi ki nasal
KS KHAN WAIT KARO JAWAB ZARORDUN GA…
gandu gand mrwa apne baqir mjlisi phudi k se ja k pooch usko b pta nh hoga lora jwb daga tu ja k mutta kr njfi se
TAXI KAY BACHAY LULAY KAY MU WALAY TARI MA KA MAMMA KHOTAY CHOOSAY MUJHAY LAGTA HA TU TO YAZID KAY LULAY KI PADAWAR HAY
HIZBULLAH AGAR TU SABIT KER DAY K MUHARRUM MAIN HUM LOUG YEAH SAB GANDAY KAAM KERTAY HAIN TU JO TU SELECT KARE WOH SAZA MUJHAI MANZOOR…BUT UPER LAGAY GAY TEREY ILZAAM MAIN KOI AIK BHI ILZAAAM GHALAT SABIT HUA TU YAAD RAKH JAHA SE BAIT KER TU BHONK RAHA HAI WAHIN AA K TERI BAJAON GA AUR YAAD RAKH TERA WOH HAAL KARUN GA K NA TERI MARDON MAIN GINTI HU GI NA AURTON MAIN BHARTI TUJH JESAY GATAR CHAAP BUHAT AAYE HAIN KHANZIR JHAGNVI KI ULAAAD AUR TERE MOUN KALA KER K TUJHAI KUTTA BANA K GALI GALI NA PHIRAYA TU NAAM BADAL DENA MERA KANJAR
tari maan ne ta baqir mjlisi ko kha tha k tera lora bht bara mjy dard hoga zra aram se mutta krna to baqir mjlisi k terhy lund se jo pada ho wo mera lund janta sirf gand marwana janta h bs harami khe ka.
Wow hizbullah nazar aa gya tmhare kitne baap hen or kitni milawat ha tm me .. Sahi baat ha na jhangvi k baap ka pta tha na tre baap ka pta hoga tjhe .. Jisne tre dimagh me ye bakwas bhari ha us se puch k tera baap kon tha .. Dna test karane chala ha apne baap ka dna test krwa tje pta chalega tu kis kutte ki nasal se ha … Mere khyal me tera naamaloom baap b shia tha jo itni nafrat krta ha tu shion se haramzade!!!
My friends only 5% shia na 95% muslims ko yargamal banaia hua ha, her bari seat par in ka banda ha, amarica, israeel, iran say in ka fund aty hain, suni loogoon ko is ka aesas nahi ha, taher al padri(qadri) isi mission par aiya ha, khuda ka liay hoosh ka nakhun lo aur in ka mission ko naqam kar do, is ka lia 5 waqat ki namaz, Allah Mudded ka narah, aur har maqam par in per nazar rakhion, ma na muta pay 8 sawal kiey thay lakin LUBP na wo delete kar diey, kia koi shia muta ki padawar hony ka dawa karta ha?
Mashah allah kia zuban istamal ki ha Ali k nokepar aur Alishan na, Hizbullah ager galat ka raha ha to daleel sa jawab do, Ali ra ko mantay ho aur zuban tum logoo ki itni galiz, ap loog Khumani ko bohat mantay bulkay usay Immam e Hazer mantay ho, us ki kitab Kashaf Al Asrar page 107, wo kayta ha ka, Hum us khuda ko nahi mantay jis ka Nubi ka bad Abu baker ra, Umer ra, Usman ra, Muawia ra jasay bud qumash loogoo ko hakoomat mil jaye, tumari shia kitab Munaqab Shher Ib n Ashoob Jild 3 page 63, Ali ra na farmaia, jo ya na kahay ka m 4th khalifa hoon us par Allah ki lanat, ab insaf karo lanat kis par ati ha,
oye lanat ha un 3no par
tari maa ki choot pr b lanat ha jo tuje bhr phenka h randi k ja k apne baap ka pta lga k khn gand mrwa rha h. phudi k tari poori sheiat pe lanat ho kafir ho tm log or jahanum k aakhri tabqay ma tum log he ho agr asi soch ha to randi k.
To Noker e Hussain, ap na Jangvi ko muta ki padawar qarar dia ha, muta to ap ka iman ka sub say barah rukin ha, Khamini ko zindabad kaytay ho, us gustakh e sahaba ko to Allah na dunia ma nunga kar ka bata dia,
Jesi zuban istemal karo ge wesa hi jawab mile ga … Aankh khol kr dekh sirf 5% shion ne balochistan ki hukoomat hata di or pakistan ko hila k rakh dia .. Tmhare lashkare yazeedi or sipah e yazeedi bhi apne bill me ghuss gae ..
bill ma nh tari maa ki choot ma ghus gae ta k tare jasy gandoo bhr he na aa saken phudi k smja kr siyasat ha ye b
Mr noker e Ali hmara Shia se ikhtlaf apni jaga bt hm kbi bi kisi masoom ki killing k kail ni chahe wo Shia ho ya Sunni Jo kush queta ma hoa bache yateem hoe aurtain bewa hoe bazurgo k sahare chale gae kisi ko marna ye kn sa Islam ha hm bt kr Skte hn dialogue kr Skte hn bt killing I being a Muslim want to say emphatically k terrorist chae koi bi ho kisi mslak se ho wo Kafiro se bi bd tar ha.hm queeta k mutasreen k sath hn un k sath bht bra zulm hoa rehe bat blochistan govt ki to shaid apko supreme court ka decision ni PTA aj se 6month pehle is govt ko na ahel declare kr dia tha govt to bhana chahti thi bt kisi aik Sunni ne Shia k mutalbe ki mukhalift ki?ni na bec ye aik jaiz tha waise bi Shia ka main mutable army ka tha governor rule bi to ppp ka ha.ab kan ko jis side se pakr lo aik na ehl Gaya dusra na ehl aa gaya bt I personally believe k army queeta ka only solution ha Shia ko is se peechae ni htna chahiae tha.
shia ko kafir kehna wale pa lanat
jio hussain walo . sada salamat raho /
mola tumhain hamesha salamt rakhe.
madrchod ja baap ko dhhond maa se poch k ks ks se muttay krti rhi ha ta k tare ko apna baap dhoondnay ma asani ho chootye nh to apna DNA test krwa ja k teri pehn da jutttha
shia ko kafir khanay walo apni ukat hm hussainio ko na dikhao,kiuk hm sabar krna jantay han.a dahk apni bill sy nikal k 72 ka janza utnay ke takat aj be ha hm m.or hm tujay daleel dy k koch sabit kiu kray hm to kula-a-eman k manay walay han.kamil yakeen ha hmy kud pa or kuda pa.rechecking ki zarorat ap ko ha.
apni maa se pooch jn se muty kiye hn wo b 72 he hn un k jinaze b utha mari jan
hizbullah without research agar app kuch bhi kaho gay tu uska anjam bhi bhugatna ho ga. jo ilzamat app laga rahy ho na un ko khud caofirm kar lo pehlay. warna app ka thikana bhi app k jhangvi k pass hi ho ga Jahanum main. mai bohat bzy hoon thats why abi behas nahi kar pa raha. let me free just once. let me free from my papers than i will tell you k kafir kisy kehty hain. ja k na apni books parho law ki or mje sir aik baat batao k tumhary maslk main talaq k 2 saal or in some cases 4 saal bad bhi paida hony wala jaiz hota hai. just tell me how. agar jaiz nahi hota tu kia hota hai phir. or agar tum iss point ko justify na kar saky tu phir samj jana k tum log kitny halali ho.
hamary jhngvi saaheb ka muqaam janat ul firdous hai tu apne baqir mjlisi ka gham kr mari jan jo khta hai k apni maa behn se b muutty kro or khandan ma sb ko chodo phle randi k bchy bt krta hai phudi da na hoooooooowayyyyyyy taayyyyyyy.
jhangvi ki maa ki qussssssssssss
mery shia bhaio in logon nay hamara itehad or hamari taqat dekh li hai. yay kabhi bhi samnay aa kar nahi lar sakty jis tarha inn k bary peechay say war karny k aadi thy yay bhi wohi hain na q k insan appny baron say he seekhta hai. ham tu 4 din nehaty maidan main rahay kisi lanti ki himat hoi k aaey. nahi. q k inn logon ko apni okat or haqeeqat dono pata hain. main kisi ki bhi dil azari kabhi nahi karna chahta but yay apni okat main nahi rehty. main apny tamam sunni bhaion ka bhi boohat mashkoor hoon jinhon nay hamara sath dia. mje sunion say koi problem nahi hai. jis jis ko bhi meri baat say takleef ho gi wo wahabhi, deobandi ya in hi ki nasal say ho ga.
akaly aao randion k bachy sb ko kalti krduna sbv ikathy aaty ho phatti hai tm logo ki hm se s lye aklay maa nh chudwaty ho sb mil k chudwaaty ho hr jga hamamra ak he jawan kafi tum sb bhenr lannnnnnnoooooon k lyeeeee
Salam YA ALI MOULA A.S
bhai mera ye paigham in logon tak phonchado k ye website shia or dosrey firqon ko larwane ki sazish hey plzzz hamre shia bhai in logon ka koi reply mat dein ye baaz nhi aney wale kisi ko koi haq nhi phonchta k wo dosrey k mazhab k bare mein ungli uthaey
hazabullah ne jo kaha wo ghlt baat hai…. aisa kuch nhi hota shiaon mai…
haan ab log itne educated hain k wo mutah pr believe nhi krte
or shiaon se request hai k agr aap kisi ko nhi maante to mat maano but unhe humare saamne gali to na do
aise sab raho to peace ho ga
or qyamat k din kisi koa shia ya sunni keh k nhi bal k Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W ki ummat keh k bulaya jaye ga
i m a sunni….. hate for none love for all
mil k raho sab tab hi kuch ho ga
ye sb phudi k yahoodi hn mari jan ummattt Muhammdi alg hai thk ha ap ne to bat krdi peace ki pr amal agr krngy to hum he krngy ye log kbi b nh qn k inho ne ehle e bait pe rehem nh kia to hum kon hoty hn jani bat ko zra samj muharam k dino ma n logo ki wja se ktna khhoon kharaba hota hai ap ki itla k lye yahi kafi hai
safeer janab aap ko wahabi se koi problem hai ??
mai wahabi hun…. mai to kisi shia ko kuch nhi kehta na k humare bare
bs kuch logo ne ghlt taasur diya hai
aise hi log shiaon mai bhi hain
hum mai se koi ek firqa bhi bilkul perfect nhi hai
jo log wahabion ko badnam kr rhe hain aise hi kuch log shiaon ko bhi
so mere bhai is sab ko choro
I agree with xain . Sorry that I hurt you. But app nay dekha na yahan hizbullah or ks khan jesy log bhi hain who creat anger. I also love all. I also want peace. I have friends from all sects and no body says kafir to anyone . I also want unity. I also disapprove hurting anyone.
lora mera phddi k
Dear safeer it’s very simple stop saying ill about sahaba this is the root cause of confrontation between Sunnis and Shias.it is obvious if u say bad about sahaba how could u even expect that they will respect u.1990 se pehle ap ki majlis ma ap se ziada Sunni hote thae muharm k jalos ma Sunni Shia se ziada hote thae sabilain ap k leye Sunni lgate thae aj bi ap k joloso k kae routs sunion k nam hn kbi ye socha ha k ye log ap se dor kyo hoe Internet k aam hone or bht sa literature jis ma sahaba ko bura kha jata tha ye reasons hn is confrontation ki main ap logon ki ye moral duty ha k more than90% k jazbat ka ahtram kro hn agr ap unko ni mante to na mano bt is trha se bura bi to na kho na.ap sahaba ko kafir murtid kho ge to jawab ma wo apko kafir murtid khte hn ye to unka reaction ha or fitri ha zahr ha jawab ma wo pholon k Haar to ni pehnain gae na yehi is lrai ki main reason ha baki kisi ka ap se property ka masla thori ha think like educated Shia allama jawad naqvi jaise logo ko apna role modle bnao Shia Sunni ka msla hamesha k leye khatm ho jae ga.
To Xain…..Sab se pehlay tu aap ka shukriya k is platform pe aap who sunni personal hu jis nay aqal ki baat ki hai…Xain aap behshq page 1 pe ja k KS KHAN kay pehlay messages dekh lou k us nay kis terha k remarks hamaray imamon k baray main kahay hain aur merey shuro k reply bhi perh lou main her tarike se in ko proper aur valid answers diyeah hain but yeah loug khas tour pe KS KHAN HIZBULLAH AUR UMER apnay demagh ki khud ki banai hui baat ko is messenger pe likh detay hain aur phir zahir hai k ghussa tu aaye ga…agar aap k community k liyea jis main aap ki maa behanon ko badnaam kiya jaye aur who bhi us mahinay main jo hamaray liyeah intahai mutabar hu aur us mahinay ki majalis e aza k baray main ganday ganday alfaaz likhna tu kisi bhi ghairat mand ko ghussa a jaye ga any way thanks again…
2nd yeah k aap nay MUTTA ki jo baat k merey bhai main kasam kha k kehta hun k MUTTA k hawalay se aap logon ko buhat misunderstandings hain agar aap kahu tu main aap ko valid link mail ker sakta hun main aap ko force nahi ker raha is cheez pe lakin sirf mera maqsad yeah hai k kuch aesi realities hain jo aap logo ko nahi pata agar aap kahu gay tu main link mail ker dun ga magar us ko apna dil aur dimagh saaf ker k perhna…
TO KS KHAN AUR HIZBULLAH AAP ko aap k ganday ilzamon ka jawab mil gaya hai jo aap hi k hum maslak bhai nay diya hai kuch sharam karo agar hai tu warna chullo bhar paani main doub k mar jao aur allah se muaafi mango tum sab loug…
To Umer…Pehli baat yeah k tum pichlay saare messages main mere ya kisi bhi shia k yeah baat sabit kerdo k tumharey sahaba ko hum ney kafir kaha…ghalat baat mat kiya karo,,khud ghalat baat kertay hu aur hum pe ilzaam lagatay hu…jahan tak baat shia sunni fisaad ki hai tu yeah sab ziaull haq k dour main start hua tha us nay sunni aur shia fisaad start kerwaya tha….aur jaha tak baat aap mijority ki hai tu aaj meri baat yaad rakhna tum
1)Pakistan main leading community sunnis hain aur minority shias hain jis country main majority huti hai un ki responsibilities huti hain k who minority ka khayal rakhain..jesay Iran main huta hai tum main se kisi nay Iran ki examples di thin uper Iran main 95% shias hain aur rest of 5% sunnis hain aaj tak kabhi yeah nahi hua k sunnis ke saath kisi shia nay ghalat kiya kyn k wahan k shais fisaadi nahi hain aur who buhat khayal rakhtay hain sunnis ka…
2)..Zia ul haq k period se pehlay juloos wagera main majority shion ki hi huti thi han sunnis jo hutay thay who halke k security wagera aur halkay ko cover ker k chaltay thay….Tumhay pata hai k nahi k aik famous situation hai jo zia ul haq k dour ki hai zia ul haq nay shion ko challenge kiya tha k moharrum main jo bhi ziarat aur majalis k liye niklay ga us ko maar diya jaye ga aur saath hi yeah bhi kaha tha k ab main dekhta hun k shion main kitna dam aur pyar hai hussain say next day pura city shion se bhar gaya tha jab us nay helicopter se survey kiya tu us waqt k army chief ko hukam diya tha k in shio per bomb bari ker do jis per army chief kay yeah alfaaz thay “sir aap ka dimagh sahi hai aap mdekhay tu sahi jaloos ka pura shaher hai agar bombari ki tu pura shaher tabah hu jaye ga…
jahan tak baat sahib karam ko maaanay ki hai hum mantay hain lakin sirf un sahaba ko jinhun nay real main hazoor se mohabbat ki…aap se request hai k hum se pls aap apnay sahaba k baray main kuch nahi sawal karo kyn k ham umko nahi mantay aur na manay gay please request hai…
next yeah k yeah baat kisi bhi tarike se sabit nahi huti k agar hum sahaba ko bura kahin tu hum kafir..kyn k kafir who huta hai jo khuda aur rasool pe emaan na rakhay….that’s it
Dear alishan kazmi pehli bt to ap ne kha k ap sahaba ko ni mante to dear apko kn khta ha k ap sahaba ko Mano na ap k manne ya na manne se unk maqam ma koi farak ane Wala ha ma to ye keh rha hn k more than 90% log Allah or Nabi k bd Abu bakr Umer Usman Ali ko ahmiat dete hn ap logo ko majority k aqaid ki respect krte hoe morally un k bare ma galat ni kehna chahiae openly neither in literature nor u should upload those videos ap dil ma Jo kho kisi ko us se aitraz ni bt openly ni ap ne kha k ap kafir ni khte Shia ki books bhari pari hn agr chaho to I can qout ref ab Jo Sunni ap ko kafir khte hn wo aik reaction ha ab ye galat ha ya thek aik alag behs ha ap un k muqadseen ko kafir likhte ho wo reaction ma un sahaba Jin ko wo itna muqadas khte hn unki aqeedt ma wo apko kafir khte hn this is natural ap unko galat khna chor do openly wo apko kafir khna chor dain gae kisi k muqadseen ko bura khna jawab ma reaction ko expect na krna peace ki bt krna Bhai Chare ki bt krna ye to ajeeb si bat ni.
un ka moqam ho tw na dear paro apni bokhari ma k hazor SAW ny kaha tha k fatima A.S mera tokra ha jis ny isy nazar kia us ny mujy gazabnak kia aur usi bokhari ma ha k fatima ko virsa nh dia ap k suhaba ny aur kaha k nabi ny kaha tha k hamara virsa nh huta hamara maal sadka huta ha ap k suhaba ko dean ka tw itna pata tha quran ma ha k haroon waris hua musa ka tw kia ya ALLAH k nabi nh thy is k bad ap k suhaba ny bibi fatima A.s ka ghar jalaya aur zakhmi kia ap naraz rahi yahan tk k wafat hu gai ya ap ki bokhari ma tw Muhammad SAW suhaba sy khush nh hu sakty .is lia ya jahanmi ha suhaba i samj tumhari apni books ma ha jao dekho
Dear alishan apne zia ul haq k dour ka incident qout Kia for Ur information 1976 se 1988 tak zia khud army chef tha logically apki bt galat ha k us ne kisi army chef ko order Kia agr wo pure mulk ki haqumat gira sakta ha to aik city pe bomb girana us k leye masla ni tha.ap log pak ki history prho ye to common si batain hn u should know about them.secondly Iran k Sunni ki bt ki ap ne to my dear ap Iran k Sunni representative ni u can’t bi right in this matter YouTube pe dekho apko PTA chal jae ga waha sunnio k sath Kia hota ha credit sunnio ko jata ha wo shia majority k aqaid ko openly bura ni khte isi ka ye mtlb ni wo un k aqaid se mutfiq hn bt unity k leye wo openly kush ni khte yehi bt hm pak ma tm Shia se expect krte hn.kisi ko manna na manna ap ka right ha but isko le k kisi ki infact majority ki dil azari krna ye knsi aqalmandi ha pak ma Shia Sunni rift khtm krne ka aik hi tariqa ha khulfa e rashdeen ki respect wo chahe tm log taqia hi kyo na kro bt peace or unity sirf isi Surat possible ha agr ap unko bura kho expect kro Sunni ankhain band kr lain to ye to possible ni ha my dear be realistic agr sach ma ap peace chahte ho my dear rest is up to u.
umer aap nay kaha k iran main sunni nay koi aesa kaam nahi kiya hai k jis se shion aur sunni k darmiyan koi ikhtalaf hu bhai hamaray jitney bhi mujtahaydin hain baray baray who sab Iran main hain un ko bhi major ikhtalaf ka pata hai lakin who in sab cheezon ko chairtay nahi hain taa k sunni main aur shion main ikhtalaf paida hu is main aap k sunni ka koi kamal nahi balke hamaray shion ka kamal hai kyn k k jahan par majority htui hai us ki zimmaydari huti hai k who minority kay haq ka khayal rakhey aur second yeah k Pakistan main majority sunnis ki hai aur minority shion k tu mujhai yeah batao k shion nay aesa kuon sa kaam kiya hai jis ki waja se aye din un ka qatal e aam huta hai…jab shia quetta se iran jatay hain tu rastay main un ko basus se nikal kar golion se channi kiya jata hai madrason main khas tour pe yeah address kiya jata hai hai shia ko marna sawab hai,,HUM 9 AUR 10 MUHARRAM KO AIK MUNAZZAM JALOOS NIKALTAY HAIN NAWASY E RASOOL KA TU PURI PLANNING HUTI HAI HALANK HUM KISI KO KUCH NAHI KEHTAY QUETTA MAIN ROUZ SHION KO KAAT KAAT K PHAINK DIYA JATA HAI PRIVATE AKHBARON MAIN AUR PUMFILAT MAIN KHAS TOUR PER YEAH LIKHA JATA HAI K SHIA KAFIR IN KO MARO…KYN BHAI AESA KIYA KER DIYA SHION NAY HUM JO KUCH BHI KERTAY HAIN WOH KHUD K LIYEAH KERTAY HAIN AAP KO TU KUCH NAHI KEHTAY PHIR HUM PE ITNA ZULM KYN????YAHAN KI MAJORITY HAI US KI ZIMMAYDARI HAI K WOH MINORITY KA KHAYAL RAKHAY YAHAN SHION KO ROUZ MARA JA RAHA HAI 86 LAASHAY RAKH KER PUR AMAN TARIKAY SE WOH LOUG EHTAJAAJ KERTAY HAIN JIN KO YEAH PATA HAI K HAMARA JAWAN BHAI BETA SHUHAR MARA GAYA AUR KISI DOOSRAY KO NUKSAAN NAHI PUHANCHATAY TU BHI CHIEF JUSTICE OF PAKISTAN KOI ACTION NAHI LETA TUMHARA MOULVI AURANGZAIB FAROOGI COURT MAIN SARAY AAAM YEAH KEHTA HAI K MAIN NAY SHION KO QATAK KIYA HAI TAB BHI TUMHARA LUDHYANVI AUR TAHIR ASHARFI AUR SAB SE BARI BAAT CJP US KO CHUR DETAY HAIN….AESI NA INSAAFI KI JATI HAI SHION K SAATH….AUR AIK BAAT SUNO TUM MERI KISI KISAM KA NUKSAN TUMHARAY SUNNIS KAY SAATH NAHI HUA IRAN MAIN US KA SABOUT YEAH HAI K AAJ BHI IRANI PRESIDENT K PEECHAY PORI QOUM HAI IRAN KO PAKISTAN KAY HALAT AUR WAHAN K SHION AUR SUNNI KAY DARMIYAN RELATIONS KO YAHAN SE MATCH MAT KARO AUR MERA DIMAGH MAT KHARAB KARO AUR TUM…..TUM SAARI COMMUNITY KAY PAAS BHI ITNA SABAR NAHI JITNA HAMARAY PAAS HAI AUR YEAH SABIT KIYA HAMARAY QUETTA KAY SHION NAY…TUMHARAY HAAN AIK JAWAN BETA MARA JATA HAI TU US K GHAR WALAY US KI LAASH SARAK PER RAKH KER ROAD TU BLK KERTAY HI HAIN SAATH SAATH TOUR PHOUR BHI HUTI HAI…..
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Dear Alishan tm kisi k ma ya baap ko gali do to log Marne Marne pe a Kate hn itni choti se bt pe ktne qatl hoe hn tm bi jante ho bt yaha to aik ki ni pure muslman Kia ko apni maa khte hn un ko galia di jati hn sahaba Jin ko log khuda Nabi k bd makam dete hn unko galian di jati hn yaha to mazhab ka msla ha jis k leye log ktne mrne pe a jate hn my dear ye itna sensitive issue ha ap ktni asan explanation de rhe ho hr mazhab ma aise log hote hn Jo mazhabi shidat pasand hote hn ok ab ye btao k Shia logon ne sipha e sahaba k logo ko ni Mara Kia Aurangzeb farooqi pe qatilana hamla krne wale 5 log Jo arrest hoe hn wo Shia ni hn?kia sipha e Mohammad Shia ki tashadod pasand organization ni ha jA k unki website dekho Shia ko sipha e sahaba kafir khti ha Kia isi wja se Shia ne un k logo ko ni Mara ? Ye aik fitri bt ha dear isi trha tm un ki maa ko un k muqadseen ko kafir kho wo tmko ni marain gae Kia? Laskar e jhangvi or sipa e Muhamad dono side ki terror organizations ni hn Kia? Kia tm ko ni PTA India ma aik cow ko ziba krne pe ktne muslmano ko mara majority ka aqaid ka ahtram ni ho ga to reaction bi yehi ho ga na ab koi meri ya apki trha to ni Jo debete or argument pe believe krte hn.
Dear alishan chalo ab ma ap ko Iran k sunnio ki halat e zar btata hn jaisa ma ne pehle kha pure Tehran ma aik bi Sunni masjid ni Christian k leye church hn Jews k leye un ki ibadat ga ha Kia Sunni insan ni??Pakistan k Kis city ma apki imam bargah ni ha btao??unki cabnat ma aik minister aik ambassador Sunni ni bn sakta btao kyo??? Kia Pakistan ka president bashmar minister beshumar senators ambassadors Shia ni?? Tehran ma Sunni ko eid ki namaz alag prhane pe pabandi ni lgai gai ??? Kia Pakistan ma eid ki namaz Shia ko alag prhane se kisi ne roka ??? Kia Shia mosque pe security ni hoti??? Iran ma sunnio ko basic mazhabi azadi ni govt ko represent krne ka right ni knsi facilities di hn unko ??? Yaha Kia ni ha ap logo k pas??? Majlis kro jaloos nikalo koi rokta ha??? Now tell me who is better Iran k Sunni ya Pakistan k Shia??
Dear alishan I live in uk ma yaha Christians ko bura ni keh skta bec yaha unki majority ha bt is ka mtlb ye ni k ma Christianity ko thek samjta hn infact ye mera ikhtaqi farz ha k ma un k aqaid ki respect Krn in speech in literature bec of their majority.India k muslman waha cow ziba ni krte mtlb ye ni k waha cow haram ha bt majority k aqaid ka ahtram farz ha Bhagwan ko Muslim bura ni khte na speech ma na literature ma mtlb ye ni k wo Hinduism ko right khte hn sirf majority ki wja se.israil ma Jews ko Muslim bura ni khte not in literature not in speech maqsad majority k aqaid ka ahtram krna ha.isi trha Iran k Sunni Shia ko literature ye speech ma bura ni khte is ka ye matlb ni k wo shiaism ko thek mante hn wja sirf majority k aqaid ka ihtram ha ab aate hn Pakistan ma Shia sirf 5%hn 95%ka sahaba ko speech ma literature ma kafir murtid tak khte hn galia tak dete hn Kia yaha Shia ka koi moral duty ni??? Ye majority ka aqaid ka ahtram farz ni?? Ye sb kush kr k claim krte ho k apko marte kyo hn kafir kyo khte hn ??? Kia ye kisi normal insan ki aqal taleem Krti ha my dear ye to wohi bt ho gai aik chori uper se seena zori.rehe bt zia ul haq ki ap ne kha k zia ne apne dour ma army chef ko order dia mane to apko correct Kia k wo khud us waqt army chef tha.baki wo jaisa tha ye hamara subject ni waise dictator koi bi ho mulq k leye thek ni hota.
Asool e Kafi (Marrat Al Aqool page 395) Umer ra na jihad kia aur Sher Bano jo ka Zain Al Abdeen aur Ali Akber ki walida the, londi bana kar Iran sa la kar ayay, aur Hussain ra sa nikah kara dia aur Ali ki mojodgi ma, Ab app loog farmaiay ka app to Umer ra ko kafir kaytay hain, ab is Nikah ka baray ma app kia kahty hain, jo aik kafir na karwaia, aur app ki muqadas kitab ka hawala ha, jawab ka muntazir hoon. Mashah allah Umer my hero app ko Allah app ki umer draz karay. Ma khud Iran gia hoon next ap ko sunion ki halat e zar bataoon ga.
i wish i have time to respond you KS Khan my brother Umer and all my suuni brothers. but my papers are approaching:(
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Mairi un sab Ahl e Sunnat se aik humble request he k please idhar wahabi deobandi ahle hadees and bralvee ki bahas mat chairo. Ap ahle sunnat sirf apnay sahaba k maqam bayan ker do to ap kamyab ho. waisay LUBP ko sheea hazrat ki support main hi likhna hota he. ap inki posts check kertay rahain apko pta chal jae ga. Umer bhai ap k jawab bahut achay hain ap daleel se baat kertay hain hyper nhe hotay gali ka istamal nhe kertay ALLAH apko jaza day ga.
Ahle tashee hazrat us masjid k qareeb se bhi guzarna pasand nhe kertay jiska name umer abubakar ya usman hota he aur jaloos bhi wahan se nhe guzartay apna. Aik elaqay ki baat he k 8 moharram ya 9 ko exact mujhay pta nhe Ahl e tashee nay is martaba apni majlis main umer (R.A.) ki shan main gustakhi ki aur uski tayyar kerda vedeo 2 din tak cable network pe chalti rahi maqami pe. inka jaloos jub shahar se guzra to umer R.A k poster aur banners shaher main lagay hoe thay to sheea jaloos nay poster banner phar dalay aur unhain jootyan marin. us se pichlay saal inhoon nay kuttay k galay main sahaba (umer abubakar usman) R.A. k name likh k dalay aur sath sath lye phirtay rahay. Ae Ahle tashee batao tum dahshat gard kon he aur aman pasand kon he? Aik sheea zakir kah raha tha k sunni hazrat Abuhuraira ki baat kertay hain us abubakar ko to apnay baap ka pta nhe tha naoozobillah.
Bibi Fatima u zahra (R.A) ki namaz e janaza parhanay ka waqt aya to Hazrat Ali nay khaleefa a Awwal Hazrat Abubakar (R.A)se namaz e janaza parhanay ki darkhast ki. ap na Hazrat Ali se parhanay ka kaha. Hazrat Ali (R.A.) nay Hazrat Abubakar se kaha k ap khaleefa e waqt hain ap parhaen to janaza Hazrat Abubakar nay parhaeee. (main nay mafhoom bataya exact words ka mujhay pta nhe he. nachor baat ka yahi he)
agar sheea hazraat sahaba ki shan main gustakhi band kr dain to is se aman ko phalnay main bari madad milay ge Insha ALLAH.
TM SAB KO JAWAB DUN GA….WAIT FOR THAT…
shan bhai i am also very much buzy these days. inshAllah jald he sab questions k answers deny k liay i will also be back. wesy aik baat hai or wo yay k jo log jahil hoty hain na or apni baat ko prove nahi kar sakty even k apni hi books say he, jesy k sipah e shaba, lashkar e jhangvi etc wo log he asy hoty hain jo qatal o gharat pay believe karty hain. thats my reply to Hizbullah khan. agar koi kisi sahabi ko bura keh raha hai tu oss k pass koi tu asi baat hai jis ki waja say wo bura keh raha hai. app oss ki baat suno or agar app samajhty ho k wo glt keh raha hai tu osko prove kar do k wo glt keh raha hai. simple. yay kahan ka asool hai k meri baat mano nai tu marny k liay tyar ho jao. civilized people never believe is qatal o gharat. only jahils or abu jahils believe in it. abb dekho na wo jo aaj kal sab say bara islam ka thekydar bana hoa hai malik ishaq, oss ki education kia hai. he is a drop out before sixth grade and i believe that he is not a dropout by choice like Bill Gates :). abb jo banda iss darjy ka jahil ho ga tu wo tu qatal e gharat e kary ga na. osko tu yay bhi nahi pata hona k jis insan ki baton main aa k i mean Jhangi, wo yay sara qatal o gharat kar raha hai oss k peechay oska baap zia ul haq tha. or yay sara beej zia ka hee boya hoa hai jis ki waja say Pakistan iss dor say guzar raha hai.
Ahmed no one wants chaos. All of us want peace. but tell me k yay sab gustakhi shura kahan say hoi hai. jis mavia nay Hazrat Ali (AS) k shan main gustakhian ki app log osko sahabi kehty ho or agar ham Mavia ko bura keh dain tu ham kafir. agar ham kafir hain tu oss insan ka kia status ho ga jis nay Nabi (SAWW) ki shan main gustakhian ki. oss insan ka kia status ho ga jis nay Ahl e Bait(AS) ko takleefain dein. onn logon pay baat aaey tu wo sahaba ka aapas ka matter hai. or agar ham keh dain kuch tu ham kafir. kia baat hai.
Dear safeer aza jahil kn ha uncivilized kon ha chalo apka apni allama jawad naqvi Kia khta ha suno zanjeer zni and Shia ki bdnami. Dunia ki most uncivilized logo se milaya jA rha ha tmko suno zra yani civilization Jin k pas se ni guzri apko logo k mu se jahil acha ni lgta my dear suno or apni eyes open kro and I appreciate people like allama jawad naqvi hr insan ki soch aise ho to ikhtlafat khatm ho jain.mjhay ye samj ni ati tm log hyper kyo ho jate ho daleel se bt kro Jo saval ha uska jawab do rehe bt sahaba ki wo galat hn ya thek is ka certificate hmain ap logo se ni chahiae.books Jo tm log. Khte ho na reference se bt kro.common scence ki bt ha ap log India ma kisi Hindu se kho k tmara Bhagwan galat ha mere khayal 7se km pieces ni kre ga khne wale k aqida galat ha ya thek ye bd ki bt ha phele ap ki moral duty ha k majority wo bi more than 90% ki aqaid ki respect ap ka farz ha.and tell me tehriq e jafria and sipa e Muhammad kyo ban hn bec unko bi terrorist activities ki wja se ban Kia Gaya ha Kia ye jhot ha??? Ya ye bi jahil gawar hn baqool ap k??? My dear logic se bt kro kisi k muqadseen ka nam likh k kuttey k gale ma dalna ye lgta ha ap ne Oxford university se sikha ha na Jo dusro ko jahil khte ho ab btao isi se ziada jahliat or kia ho gi toilets ma nam lekhe jati hn ye knsi education ha btao??? Ye sb kush dekh k log ankian band kr lain?? Kisi ko ni manna na mano bt ye chep hrktain kr k ap apne apko knse civilised sabit krna chahte ho btao??tm log kisi ka lehaz ni kro ge to btao ye kaise tawaqo krte ho k koi tm logo ka lehaz kare??naam wala incident pechley muharm jhang ma hoa phir is k bd Jo hoa wo puri dunia janti ha ye hrktain kr k ap log Shia killing ko justify ni kr rhe ho Kia??? My dear mazhab aik bht sensitive issue jis k leye log mar bi jate hn or maar bi dete hn. Hr koi hmare trha debete ya argument pe ni jata or ye aik fitri bat ha..
kafar kafar shiha kafar. Jo na many wo bi kafar.aur ma alma ali shair haidri ke alfaz main kehta hun sahab raz ka jo ghulam hai hamara wo amaam hai.
Dear Omer i sincerely agree with many of the things that you said. but does it mean that whatever i am saying is wrong? sipah e Muhammad (SAWW) q bani. tell me. it was a response to siph e sahaba. tell me k sipah e Muhammad (SAWW) nay kitny khud kush hamly kiay. kityny bomb phary. or han yay 90% wali baat na kia karo abb app. ham over 5 coror hain in Pakistan. or jahan tak app logon ka taluq hai tu suno app mai kai factions hain or sab ki masjidain tak alag alag hain or koi kisi dosry k peechay namaz tak parhnay ko tyar nahi hai. but in spite of all these things i respect all those sunnis either they are deobandis or brelvis or belong to any other faction who respect us. i respect you because you respect us. but what about people like KS Khan or Hizbullah. yay no body wants bloodshed. i want peace. you want peace but these are some who dont.
Al Giaba Lil Tusi page 74′ Al Arshad Lil Mufeed page 304, these are shia books, written, Immam Hassan Askari jub footh (died) huway to un ki koi ulad nahi thi, aur na hi un ki wafat ka waqat un ki koi bewi ya londi hamila thi, Jub un ki koi ulad nahi thi to 12th Immam ko kasay man lain,
KS khan ja k apni he bokhari parh lo. wahan say tumhain 12th imam k bary main hawaly mil jaen gay. kesy jahil log ho yar tum wo jo ulti seedhi batain karny lag jaty ho. app log shion g aqaid ko challenge q nahi kar dety kisi bhi adalat main. app logon ko bohat shoq hai na shia ko kafir kehny ka tu kisi bhi adalat main shion k aqaid pay case kar do. agar yeh bhi possible nahi tu yar koi tehreek hi chala lo taky app ko shia ka kafir sabit karny ka moqa mil jea. q nahi karty ho. agar yay bhi nahi possible tu shion ko manazra k liay e bula lo. suno KS sirf shia he nahi Sunni bhi 12th imam pay believe karty hain. mje tu yay he samaj nahi aa rahi k aakhir tum ho kon.
Dear safeer I highly appreciate ur views about peace.secondly you asked k sipha e Muhammad kyo bani defiantly sipha e sahaba k reaction pe I do agree with you but ab mera ye saval ha sipha e sahaba kyo bani ?? Akhir sipa e sahaba bnane ki zarort kyo pari??I hope u will give me the answer.baki you kno better k Pakistan ma raw musad CIA Pakistan ko destabilized krne ki koshish ma hn wo bi Pakistan ma bht kush kr rhe hn ab ache bure log bi HR jaga hote hn chae wo sipa e Shaba ho ya tehreeq e jafria sipa e Muhamad or lashkar jhangvi Kia kr rhe hn ye bi kisi se chupi bt ni ha bt I believe jis ne aik insan katl Kia usne puri insaniat katl ki ab wo chahe koi bi ho.rhe bt supreme court Jane ki my dear as I mentioned earlier Pakistan ma parlimani system ha yaha constitution ma Jo hota ha supreme court unko galat ni keh skti unless ap national assembly ma bill le k aao waha se prove ho phir constitution ma amendment ho skti ha ab jaise qadiani ko 1974 ma national assembly k session ma unanimously kafir declare Kia Gaya ap direct supreme court ma kisi ko kafir ya Muslim declare ni kr sakte you have to approve the bill from national assembly and later on senate as well.ab ap ma se kise ne ye bi kha k supreme court ma hmare Shia ulma ne qadianio ko kafir declare krwaya ab ye bt technically bilkul galat ha chek the Internet where it was declared in supreme court or national assembly.rhe bt sect ki to dear imamia Ismaili zaidi nuseri Druze ye Shia k sect ni hn Kia?? In ma bi ikhtlafat ni hn Kia??ab finally Shia ki percentage ki bt look hmare pas koi aisa source ni k Shia ko count kr skain easy way ha k ap percentage janne k leye us sect ki masajid or dusre ki masajid ko count kr lo agr ye 100%ni to 90%ap ko correct counting de gi like christains ki church aik city ma ktne hn n Muslim ki masajid christains ki population ma percentage mil jae gi and it is clear k Shia percentage less than 10ha.
Dear omer, sipah e sahaba was formed to counter the effects of Iranian revolution. The 2nd answer is that neseri are not from us not the ismaialis, and druzes and zaidis, i am just talking about the 12 followers. the third answer is that do you really think that Shias are kafir. if you think than just tell me the definition of a Muslim dear. What is the definition of a muslim?
the main problem that i am facing at present is that my papers are approaching and for that purpose i am very much buzy.. but dear once i am free than we will chat a lot and will try to understand each other because till when we do not understand eachother we will never be able to live peacefully together. and i want to live in peace.
By the Wy Milad E Mustafa (SAWW)mubarik to all.
dear han the number of mosque is not the actual representative of number. will discuss it too
Mr,Safeer e ezza ya jo ma na shia ki kutab say hawala dia, app ko qabool nahi, Bukharai Sharif ka app na hawala dia, chalo Bukhari Sharif ko app harf b harf correct tasleem karnay ka aylan kar dain, to ma app ko isi waqat kafir sabit kar doon ga,
KS Khan let me free just. then i will deal will you. tm bokhari ko manty ho na tu phir jo kuch main bokhari say poochon ga na usko justify karna pphir
Or han just give me the definition of muslim.
Dear safeer what definition you are asking about as every sect every scholar defines Muslim in their own way or you are talking about the one in constitution of Pakistan? Well if u r asking my definition of Muslim I personally of the opinion Muslim is one who believe in Islam exactly as it is and no ifs,ands or buts about it.and u replied about the formation of sipha e sahaba that it is formed to counter the revolution in Iran .after the revolution in Iran a lot of literature that came from Iran was repleted with derogatory remarks about sahaba that was the root cause which resulted in formation of sipa e sahaba which is more a reaction than a proper organization
i am asking about the definition of muslim simple definition. and whatever you are saying about the iranian revolution is just a false accusation. I respect your Muqadasats. every sane and literate Shia respects the beliefs of our sunni brothers. Sipah e Sahaba was formed by Zia ul haq. and the second things is that as you said that i was a reaction that why it was only a reaction from Deobandis. because barelvi sunnis donot own sipah e sahaba. it is owned by Deobandis and probably Ahl e Hadith too. Sipah e Sahaba is not only involved in killing Shias but Sunni brelvis as well. I do not who will tell these people that you cannot force your opinion on anyother person as There is no Jabr in Islam.
Also dear Umer this was my last message on LUBP till march. I will come back now by 10th of march as my papers are going to start from 23rd feb. take care.
Dear safeer firstly I wish u all the very best fr Ur exams and u r very true to the extent that sipha e sahaba is formed by deoband sect bt this is the voice of Sunnis of all the sects as far as sahaba are concerned they do not attach themself with ssp because of their differences with deobands if you watch you tube you will find Sunnis of all sects are unanimous on their stance on sahaba as sahaba are equally dear to all Sunni sects.I don’t agree with you when you say all Sunnis are involved in Shia killing man there are hardly hundreds who believe in killing bt we don’t even consider them Muslims because this is not the solution of the matter and again I really appreciate ur views if u respect our muqadseen because insulting muqadseen of someone’s sect is worst thing,didn’t you hear the famous saying”talwar ka zakham bhr jata ha zuban ka ni” take cr.
Hum muslims ko islam ka correct way say hata kar ajeeb o greeb chezoo ma ulja dia gia ha, islam aik seda sada deen ha, ok let me say if someone asked let us say my father, who is in your house hold for example. He would have replied, i have a wife three children and two grand children, would u expect him to say, i have a daughter and two grand children and a sun in law? and this is my house hold.
where is the wives, kia yay mannay wali bat ha, yay kisi ki insult nahi ha, but i want claification, Qurran e Majeed ma ahl al bayit gar waloon ko kaha gia ha, All e Ibrahim ma be Ibrahim AS ki wife ko mukhatab kia gia ha,
اوّل تو یہ کہ شیعہ اس بات کا تعین کریں کہ وہ مسلمان ہیں ۔ کس بات پر مسلمان ہیں ۔ کلیمہ،قرآن،حدیث،صحابہ کرام وغیرہ ۔ ،۔ ۔۔۔ ۔ ۔ ۔۔ ۔ ۔ مثلاً کون سی باتوں پر عمل کرکے شیعہ مسلمان ہیں۔ اور اگر مسلمان نہیں تو پھر اسلام کے بارے میں ان سے بات نہیں ہونی چاہییے۔
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr_KNv29LRg
یہ ایک مناظرہ کی ویڈیو ہے جس میں اہل تشیع نے دعوٰی کیا تھا کہ وہ قران کو مانتے ہیں صحابہ کرام کو مانتے ہیں وغیرہ وغیرہ اس ویڈیو کو الٹراسرف کے ذریعے دیکھیں ۔ اس ویڈیو کو دیکھنے کے بعد بحث کی کوئی گنجائش باقی نہیں رہتی ۔ اگے کسی دل چاہے مانے یا نہ مانے اس ویڈیو کے تین حصے ہیں ULTRA SURF
Jaanty ho aaj ek European blog par discussion ho rhi thi ….to ek french ny kaha k agr tum Muslims ko phir say arooj mil b jai to tum apas main apny sect ki jang larty larty mar jao gy ….
conflict of opinion har ek ka hota hai ..lakin ksi ko gali nikalna or ya phir ksi ko Kafir kah dena dono hi ghalat hain …jo koi Allah or us k Rasool (SAWW) ko manta hai or khatam e nabuvvat ko b vo muslim hai …baqi har ek k amaal us k sath ….lakin ek baat ..aap log agr ksi ko sahabi nhi manty to its ur opinion i have no objection on that but ksi ki mukhalfat main ikhlaq ko bhool jana sahi nahi ….or agar ksi ko Shia commnunity say koi ikhtilaaf hai to yah us ka right hai but un ko yah un k Imaam ko gali dena ghatiya tareen baat hai ….whtever ur sect is ..just one thing ..respect for all hate for none….coz its hard to love but easy to hate ….
i wish k aap samjho or is behas ko khtam karo …
Dear daniyal apne bht khubsurti se Shia ko defend Kia ma apki bt se itfaq krta hn k ap k immam ko gali ni deni chahiae dear apne ye to btaya ni k sahaba k bare ma ap ka Kia khayal ha unko gali dene k leye ikhlaq Kia khta ha??? Tell me one thing ap reaction ko kyo dekhte ho action ko kyo ni??? Bemari ki shidat ko dekhte ho bemari ko kyo ni??? Aik insan k gale ma infection ha jis ki waja se usko bukhar ha doctor bukhar ka ilaj kare gale ka infection ni to Kia bukhar utr jae ga??? Log Shia ko kafir khte hn ye to apko bht bura lga Jo aik reaction ha bemari ha bt is ki waja apko buri ni lgi sahaba ko gali dena um ul momneen ki toheen krna is k leye apne kush ni kha Jo action ha or bemari ki waja. Yes apka right ha k jis ko Mano na Mano bt galian dena tohmt lgana logon ki jzbat se khelna ye knsa ikhlaq ha??? Bhai action khatm kr do reaction khatm ho jae ga bemari ki waja khatm kr do bemari khatm ho jaw gi. Ok if u Shia really want peace here is a suggestion for u ap log national assembly ma aik bill le k aao namoos e sahaba namoos e ahle Bait or jin ko ap immam mante ho k Jo koi bi in ma se kisi ki toheen ka murtkib ho ga usko moat ki saza di jae believe me Shia Sunni ki lrai khatm ho jae gi dear ap sirf Shia ki bt kr rhe ho I personally of the opinion k kisi k muqadseen chae wo Shia ho Sunni ho hindu ho Christian ho ya kisi bi religion ka ho uski toheen ni krni chahiae.
Umer my hero, app yaqeen karin ma iran gia, is sa pahlay hum 4 loog irani embesy ma visa ka lia paper submit kiay, maray sath aik admi tha gis ka nam Umer tha, us ka pasport objection laga kar wapis kar dia, anyhow hum teen log iran gayay for ten days, ma little farsi bi janta tha, app yaqeen karna ka iran ka suni muslim ki halat jo ma na dakhi ma bohat roaia, koi musjid nahi bana saktay jub tak musjid ka baher Ali Wali Allah na likha ho, sunion ko iran ma iskader tang kia ja raha ha ka wo apna deen choor dain, hum 4 din ka bad wapis a gayay, ab ap insaf karo jab hum in shia ko jo sirf 5% hain in ki ajara dari aur budmashi dakhtay hain to dil ma gussa nahi ayay ga k 25% irani suni kasay zindagi guzar rahay hain, maray swal galat nahi hain bulkay haqeeqat ha, ma ashiq e rusool hoon, aur sahaba ka gulam hoon, ab jo maray sahaba ko gali da ga to kiya ma un ka immams ko achah boloon ga, app na bi swal kia tha ka Ali ra na 25 sal tak 3 kulfa e rashdeen ka pechay namaz ada ki, un ko agar koi objectin nahi tha to ab in logoon ko kuain takleef ho rai ha, khulafa rashdeen kay wazir bi rahay, musheer bi rahay, un sa salary bi latay rahay, ager objectin tha to alan e jihad karty, lakin wo khush thay,aur un say cooprate karty rahay, sub sa big proof ha k Nubi e Pak saw ki bimari ma Abu Baker na namaz parhai jis ka hukam khud Hazoor saw na dia, Ali ra ko hukam kuain nahi dia, immamat sub aik drama ha jo Abdullah bin saba ka rachia hua drama ha, aik aur bat kisi shia na is ka jawab nahi dia, tum loog (ya ali mudded kaytay ho, ali mushkal kushah kaytay ho) jub ibn e muljam jo ka Ali ra ka shia tha un ko qatal kia to wo apna defance kuain na kar sakay, Allah ka wastay Ali ra ko un ki had ma ranay do, us ko Allah ka darja mut do,
Shia is a kafir
Farooqi is kafir
To:K S Kuta,Aby agar ali a.s apne ap ko saheed hone se bachate to kon tha jo ali a.s ko sheed karta, or hazrat ali a.s ko shadat ka rutba kaise milta or huzoor saw ne khud hazrat ali a.s ko un ke katil ke bare me bataya tha,jahil ki uolad zara samjh se kam lo.tumhe pata nhi hai kya, k tum kin immaon ke bare me bura kahte ho,(Imam a.s hazrat muhammad saw ke ulad or un ke nasal hai.)
Mr Unknown kia Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W.S) k daamad Hazrat Usman (R.A) ko gali daina theek he? kia Umer, Abubakar ko gali daina darust he? Kaha jata he k Musalman honay k lye ALLAH aur us k rasool ko man laina kafi he. Kia Ali (R.A.) ka inkar ker k aur Imam Hassan aur Hussain (R.A.) ko na maan k musalman rahta he koe?
Pakistan ki parliamaent ko chahye k woh aik law pass keray jis main Ahle bait aur sahaba ki toheen kernay walay ko saza di jae. Warna log sahaba aur ahl e bait pe tabarrah kertay rahayn gay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK2v4ABWw74
Follow the link Allama Jawwad Naqvi.
Aby Unknown, kisi Muta ki padawar, kisi randi bazar ki Ulad, (ya zuban ma na sirf is ka alfaz ka jawab ma likhi ha, warna hum muslim ka shawa nahi) ab suno unknown, Ali ra ki ulad ko Hazoor e Pak saw ki ulad kahta ha, ap loog sirf Nubi e Pak ka nam istamal kar rahay hain, tumary khanzeer ulima kaytay hain ka wahi to Ali ra par ani thi par gulti say Jibrael e Ameen as na Mohammed saw par nazil kar di, doob maro o kafiroo, Kadiyani apna nia nabi la kar a gayay, aur tum loog Immam la kar a gayay, lanet ha tum doonoo par, Hussain ra ka qatal koon thay, Koofi aur Kofi koon thay Shia, ab un par Allah ki lanet nazar ati ha, apni shaklee dakh lo kia waqiee Allah ki lanet nahi ha, jis firqay ma Hafiz e Quran nahi us par Allah ki lanet nazer ati rahay gi qayamat taq, Usman ra ka qatiloo lanet ho tum par, Ya Allah Muddad, jo gar Allah sa Mudded mangay us ki ……………………., Ma Nubi ka nooker Nabi ka gulam. Jo gar Allah say mangay wo ibn ul haram
This discussion is over fatwa above…deobandis barelivis have no conflict. Masla minor nature ka hota hay. At many time deobandi baralvio ke masjid mein atay hein aur barelvi bhe deobandi ki masjido mein jatay hein. But the fact is all sunnis (80% popultation of pakistan) will not tollerate any disrespect of sahaba publically. How can u abuse a person who is resting beside prophet MUHAMMED.
We respect each and every words of Ghause Azam, aala hazrat Imam Ahmed raza….
Shia.. We support your cause of quetta it was a combine victory dont abuse all sunnis becoz u ppl also hold miscrents.
To KS khan, Omer bhai and all my dear brothers Suuni or Shia. i am coming back soon. and as far as i have concluded. instead of fighting ham sab ko jo k educated class say belong karty hain, ham sab ko mil kar iss sab ko band kar dena chahiay or mil k koi solution nikalna hoga. but as i said i willcome soon,till then app sab laro mat. ham sab ko mil kar jahan bhi kuch bhi galt hai oss ko khatam karna ho ga. my papers are starting from 23rd, please do pray for me. thanks
Safeer e Azza Allah ap ko exam ma kamyab kary, ap na bat drust ki, bus hum sahaba karam ra ki respect chahty hain, mut kisi ko gali do, sub kuch Allah ki adalat par choor do, wo insaf karnay wala ha, ap exam sa farig ho jaein insha allah pher bat ho gi,
Salam if any body abuse sahaba they r noon muslem. We declered qadiyani kafer because they told that wahi continue after mohameed(saw) on gulam ahmed. But shia openly says that all immam get order from jibrail (as). And also claim that immams r more than unbiya a karam ( as). Is this not kufar. U know why, because all tv chanels r mostly shia, all key post under shia hand, your president is shia, police is ful of shia, army also, i am asking my sunnis brothers please wake up and watch your muhallah and village, shia are injecting only 4 person show in our poor sunnis mind, lot of sunnis called Ya Ali Mudded, Ya Ali Mushkal Kasha, this is a slow posion, Is this not a crime that qadiyani claim wahi on only one man Gulam Ahmed, but shia saying whai coming on 12 immams ? And some of aur ulama says that shia r our brothers, like Taher Al Padri,
Safeer aza… You are right we must fight against those who potray our beloved MUHAMMED with cartoons. Hum iss baat pe kyun lartay hein kay aap shia ho mein sunni… Aakhrat mein sub pata chal jayega khatam baat. Shia and sunnis are brothers they live together… Han kuch jail log dono taraf hein… Majority saath rehna chati hay… Do u agree?
Noman Barelvi sahib, ap na kitnay aram sa bool dia ka shia suni brother hain, bahi sahib ya sar e amm Abu baker ra, Umer ra, Usman ra, aysha ra ko galian daty hain, pher be app in ko bahi boltay hain, qurran ko tabdeel shuda manty hain, pher ap in ko bahi boolty hain, apnay immamo ki aik bat nahi sunty, agar hum in ka immamoo ko apna immam man laty hain to pher hum ma ur in ma kia fark ra jata ha, Mohammed SAW pa hum apny jan bi qurban kar dain to ya hamari khush qismati ha, un ki gustakhi karnay wala dunia ma bi lanati ha aur akhrat ma bi jahanami, Allah Mudded baqi sab shirk aur biddat ha,
K s khan vry good ap k imaan ko mra salam
@k.s khan Mashallah I am with u brother they have no right to abose our sahaba…
arry yai HZRAT ALI R.A KI baat ni manty to kya many gay bhai
Bhai i know. Sahaba ko jo galian dete hein wo bohat kum hein. Yeh sub especially interior punjab ki vilages mein hota hay bro. Eik aad cases ko leke sub ko bura mat kaho becoz i live among them mere bhe dost shia hein but they will never say a word in fron of us. Balkey they also respect hazarat ayesha aur wo aun ki shaan mein ghustaaki nahe kartay. Han inn mein kuch log hein jo yeh kryay hein magar sub aisey nahe trust me bro.
My brother Noman Barelvi, ma taqreban 10 sal tak shia bun ka raha hoon, ma na iraq, iran, suryia, UAE, sudia, visit kia ha, app yaqeen karin sub jagha shia ka aik hi maqsad ha, toheen e sahaba, yad rakhian shia ma aik cheez ha,Taqia ,wo is ka istamal kartay hain, chalo app apnay shia friends sa aik swal karin ka, kia wo Khumini, Baqar Mujlasi, Qummi, Noor Allah Shostri, Quliyni, Al Jazairi, par lanant baeig saktay hain, in tamam Khanzeeroon na sahaba e karam ko iskadar badnam kia ha ka Allah ki panah, aur shia loog in sab ko apna sab kuch mantay hain, ya dogli policy munafiq sabit karti ha, jab hum Iran ja rahay thay to maray sathey jis ka nam Umer tha is ka viza reject kar dia, aur bro jo loog Ali ra ko khuda ka darja datay hoon wo sahaba ka aetram kasay karin, ya sub bugz e Muawia ha hub e Ali nahi,
Kskhan true salay bht mithy bnty h dagabaz hoty yai log
kskhan brother if ur in facebook send me msg shavezalam72@gmail.com
or bhai jisko shk ho yai sahaba ko bura nai bolty wo bht bdi bdgumani main h or
@nouman tum jesy he hmry sahaba k bary main bura sun skty ho hm ni wo jo hq pER ni hm us k 7 na rhy gy na 7 degy
@bhai main deen or illm ni janta mujy bs itna pta h
jo hazour S.A.W peace be upon him unki family un ki biwi ki behurmuti….. QURAN ko ni manty …. hmry sahaba ko muslim he ni nauzubilah… jin ko duniya he main jannat ki bsharat ……yai unko yaha nai rok paay unhony hukumat ki 😀 😀 wo b islam ko apna insaf bna k 20lankh murba mill …. ni mily ga sacha mery siddeq jesa na koi hoga faisala krnx wala mery faaroouq r.a jesa ……
Shavez Alam, thanks for coments, app na correct kaha ka hamary some of sunni brothers in shia loogoon ki batoon ma a jattay hain, app na likha k Umer ra ka zamanay ma 20 lakh muraba mile par muslim haqoomat thi, bulkay 26 lakh muraba mile ki haqoomat thi, Usman ra ka zamanay ma ya haqomat 32 lakh muraba mile tak phail gai, afsoos ka sath kahna parta ha k Ali ra ka zamanay ma aik inch bi new land fatah na ho saki, khana jangi start ho gai, kakin Maawia ra ka zamanay ma islamic state 62 lakh muraba mile tak ponch gai, us waqat muslim ki navey dunia ki sub sa powerful navey mani jati thi, in tamam cheezoo ko roknay ka liay Karbala ka afsoos nak waqia jan boog kar yahoodion, majoosion aur saleebion ki sazis sa hua, ham Hussain ra ka qatal ko aik bohat barah nuksan ha, lakin dushmanoo ki chal kamyab ho gai aur muslim apas ma fight karnay lagay,
Very soon i will be in facebook
Salam to all of u ma to bs itna janta hn k agr Abu bakr Umer Usman momin ni to dunia ma koi bi momin ni phir momin ki definition pe koi bi pura ni utrta rhe bt peace ki hn hm peace chahte hn bt ye isi surt possible ha k sahaba ki toheen band ki jae peace khud bkhud ho jae ga in my opinion namoos e Sahaba n namoos e Ahl e Bait bill parliament se pass ho k in k gustakho ko death sentence ho is the only way jis se peace possible ha shia ka role is ma bht important ha agr wo sach ma peace chahte hn to ye bill unki tarf se present Kia jae .
Immam ka barah ma shia ka aqeeda sabit karta ha ka wo Katmay Naboait ka mannay walay nahi hain, ab wo revenge la rahay hain Mohameed SAW say, jub ka Ali ra ko Allah ka darja datay hain, aur in ka baqool, Ali ra ki gardan ma robe dal kar aur Madinay ki streets ma gaseeta gia Abu Baker ra ki bait ka liay, to khudai dawah kider gia, ya Ali ra ki open gustakhi ha, ma some references da raha hoon, in ki jooti in ka sar, Allah ki qasam ya aqida rakhnay walay KAFER HAIN, KAFER HAIN, KAFER HAIN,
How do Shia & Sunni Muslims differ in their view of the Imamate & who can be considered an Imam?
Note: We respect Shia’s Imams as individuals. Shia’s main reference books are full of lies in the form of fabricated narrations falsely attributed to their Imams or to Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w.). Shia’s Imams did not advocate the blasphemous beliefs of the Shia.
Allah sent Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) as the last and final Prophet on the earth. No new prophet is prophesied to come after Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.), either in Quran and in Hadith. The chain of “Wahi” revelation sent by Allah through Angel Gabriel (a.s) to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) ended upon the death of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) in 11th year Hijri. However, Prophet Mohammad mentions that Jesus Christ will return to Earth and will rule the World as a Muslim, but will not bring a new holy scripture or revelation. Furthermore, Prophet Mohammad also mentions that a Muslim leader, called Al-Mahdi, will appear around the end of time before Jesus’ return.
The Shia believe that the final Imam, called Al-Mahdi, disappeared hundreds of years ago and went into occultation state, but he will re-appear around the end of the world, before the Day of Judgment. Shia’s Al-Mahdi is very different in his characteristics from Al-Mahdi that prophet Mohammad mentions that he will appear to lead the Muslims at the end of time. Shia’s Al-Mahdi based on what the Shia’s reference books mention seems to be more like a Prince of Vengeance who will take revenge against the Sunnis, he will bring back to life, crucify and torture, Abu Bakr & Omar (Prophet Mohammad’s closest companions) and Aisha (Prophet Mohammad’s wife).
Shia’s Imam Mahdi is a fictitious, imaginary character. He never existed as a child. He does not exist now, contrary to what they believe. Therefore, there will never be any person appearing in the future who will fulfil all the characteristics and signs of Shia’s Imam Mahdi. Some Shia may follow the Anti-Christ, thinking he is Shia’s Imam Mahdi because there are many similarities between them (click here for an in-depth analysis of this point).
The Shia believe that the Imams have a divine mission, to rule the Muslims after Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.), and represent God on Earth. They claim that knowledge of the unseen belongs solely to their Imams, and it is not for the Prophet to inform us about the unseen.
Some Shia have gone so far as to claim divinity for those Imams.
Importance of the Imamate for the Shia
Al-Imamah is the most important pillar of Shia’s religion. Shia scholar al-Muzaffar explains:
“We believe that al-Imamah is one of the fundamentals of the religion, by which faith is incomplete without it.” (Aqaa’id al-Imamiyyah: Muhammad Rida al-Muzaffar, chapter 3: al-Imamah, p.89)
The famous Shia Scholar, Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, nicknamed al-Sadooq (the truthful), wrote:
“Our belief is that whoever denies the Imamah of Amirul-Mu’mineen Ali bin Abi Talib and the Imams after him is equal to the denial the Prophethood of all the Prophets. We further believe that whoever recognizes (the Imamah of) Amirul-Mu’mineen but denies one of the Imams, is like one who admits and recognizes all the Prophets but denies the Prophethood of Muhammad [pbuh]. (Al-I’tiqadaat: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, p. 103, from: ‘Aqeedat al-Imamah, Dr. Ali As-Saloos, p. 28 )
Al-Mufeed, a leading scholar among Twelver Shi’ites, and who was the teacher of Abu Ja’far At-Tusi who became a top Shia Scholar, wrote as quoted by Al-Majlisi:
“The consensus of all Twelver Shia is that whoever denies the Imamah of any Imam, and denies the allegiance imposed by Allah Ta’ala for him (the Imam), then he’s a Kafir deviant, deserving eternal Hell.” (Bihaar al-Anwaar: Muhammad Baqir al-Majlisi, vol.23, p.390, from Aqeedat al-Imamah: Dr. Ali As-Saloos, p.29)
Muhammad bin Ali narrated from his uncle Muhammad bin Abil-Qasim, from Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi, from Muhammad bin Sinaan, from Ziyad bin al-Munthir, from Sa’eed bin Jubair, from Ibn Abbas said: The Messenger [pbuh] said:
“He who disputes with Ali bin Abi Talib [as] after me is a Kafir and he who joins someone against him is a Polytheist. He who loves him is a believer, and he who hates him is a hypocrite. He who follows him is a follower, and who fights him is an apostate, and who rejects him will perish. Ali is the Light of Allah in His earth and His proof on His servants. Ali is the sword of Allah against His enemies, and the inheritor of the knowledge of His Prophets. Ali is the Upper Word of Allah, and the word of his enemies is the lower. Ali is the Master of the Appointees (Awsiya), and the Appointee of the Master of Prophets. Ali is the Prince of Believers (Amir-ul-Mu’mineen), leader of “al-Ghurr al-Muhajjalin” and the Imam of all Muslims, Allah does not accept the faith except of those who accept his (Ali’s) Wilayah and declare allegiance to him.” (Al-Amaali: Ibn Babawaih Al-Qummi, 3rd Council, p.19, Narration 6)
Lies & Deception
The Shia have tendency to lie and attribute false statements and narration to their Imams. The following are 2 examples of fabricated narrations:
Muhammad bin Yahya, narrated from Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Issa, from Muhammad bin Sinaan, from Muawiyah bin Wahab said:
“We departed to Makka and in our company was a righteous old man who does not know about this matter (Shi’ism) and performs the full prayer during travel, and with him was his nephew, who was a Muslim. The old man got sick, so I said to his nephew: If you present this matter (of Shi’ism) to your uncle, perhaps Allah may save him. Everybody said: Leave the old man alone, he seems alright. His nephew did not wait long to say: Uncle, the people became apostates after the Messenger of Allah [pbuh] save very few men, and Ali bin Abi Talib [as] was entitled to the same allegiance that the Messenger [pbuh] enjoyed, and after the Messenger of Allah, truth and allegiance was due to him. (The Narrator) Said: The old man took a deep breath and said: I am on this path, and died. So, (later on) we went to (Imam) Abu Abdullah [as], Ali bin As-Sariy related this story to Abu Abdullah [as], thus he (Imam Abu Abdullah) said: He is a man from the people of Paradise. Ali bin As-Sariy said: But he did not know a thing about this (Shi’ism) save that hour ! (The Imam) Said: What (else) you want from him? By Allah, he entered the Paradise.” (Al-Kafi (fil Usool): Al-Kulainy, Book of Faith & Disbelief, Chapter: Things That Allah Gave to Adam [as] At The Time of Repentance, vol.2, p.440, narration 4)
A Shia narrator, Ali ibn Ibrahim, has narrated the following statement whom he attributes falsely to one of Shia’s Imams, Imam al-Rida (a.s.):
“Thereafter, (thanking Allah) Muhammad (s.a.) was the trustee of Allah for His creatures. When he was taken away from this world we, Ahl al-Bayt inherited him, thus, we are the trustees of Allah over His earth. With us is the knowledge of the sufferings, the death, the genealogy of the Arabs and the birth of Islam. We know the man when we see him in the truth of faith or hypocrisy. Our followers (Shi‘a) are listed (with us) by their names and the names of their fathers. Allah has established a covenant with them and with us. They land wherever we would do so and enter wherever we would enter. There is no one who follows Islam except us (and our followers). We are the noble saviors and the descendents of the prophets and of the children of the successors of the prophets. We the ones to whom the book of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has come exclusively. We, of all people, have the first priority (closeness) to the book of Allah. We, of all people, have the first priority (closeness) to the Messenger of Allah. For us, Allah formed His religion.”
Infallibility of the Imams
The Shia consider the Imams to be completely infallible, do not make even the slightest error. Hence following these Imams, according to Shia’s creed, is obligatory on all true Shia Muslims until the Day of Judgment. In fact, reverence for these Imams is so great amongst the Shia that the Imams are believed to be on a level above even the Prophets or the highest ranking angels; A level wherein even the particles of the universe are subservient to them.
Khomeini asserts in his book, Al-Hukumah Al-Islamiyyah:
“Certainly the Imam has a dignified station, a lofty rank, a creational caliphate, and a sovereignty and mastery over all the atoms of creation. It is definitely a basic belief in our school of thought, that our Imams occupy a rank unattainable by either an angel or a major Prophet. And, according to our narrations of Hadith, before the creation of the universe, the greatest Prophet SAWS, and the Imams – peace be upon them – were in the form of light which Allah made orbit His throne and gave them rank and proximity known only to Him. As was narrated in the hadith on Miraaj, Angel Gabriel said, ‘If I were to have come an inch closer, I would have been burnt up.’ – that is, by the intensity of the Imam’s light. It has also been narrated by them (the Imams) – may peace be on them – that, ‘We have certain states in relation to Allah not allowed to an angel or a great Prophet.’ A similar status is accorded to Fatima Al-Zahra (Prophet Mohammad’s daughter) – may peace be on her…”
In the same book, Khomeini also states regarding the Imams:
“…because we cannot imagine the Imams being forgetful or negligent, and we believe that they perceive all things which could benefit Muslims…” and “The Imam’s teachings are like the Qur’an…they must be implemented and followed.”
This last statement finds its support in a chapter of Al-Kafi entitled: “Surely people have no Truth except what came from the Imams and everything which did not come from them (the Imams) is false.”
The Shia believe that the Imams have absolute and infinite knowledge. This contradicts what Allah says in the Quran; “Verily the knowledge of the Hour is with Allah (alone). It is He who sends down rain, and it is he that knows what is in the wombs. Nor does anyone know what it is that he will earn tomorrow, nor does anyone know in what land he is to die. Verily with Allah is full knowledge and He is acquainted (with all things)” (Quran 31:34)
Characteristics of the Imams
Below are some of the lies that the Shia tell about their 12 Imams, as some of you might have already known that the Shia’s beliefs differ significantly in many aspects from Islam:
1. “All the Imams are infallible just like the prophets. The Shia derive their religion from their immaculate (infallible) Imams” (Usool al Kafi, p. 22) Well this is a clear statement of kufr from the Shia, as you can see they admit that they derive their religion from their Imams, well this means that if a Shia Imam declares something as forbidden that in the Qur’an is permissible, the Shia would follow their Imams… by this statement the Shia have taken themselves outside Islam.
2. “By listening to the voice of a person, the Imams can tell if the person was destined to go to hell or to heaven; they would thus answer his questions accordingly” (Usool al Kafi, p.185) As you can see the Shia make their Imams out to be some God-like being, can’t they see that this is Shirk (worshipping other than Allah, or associating partners with him).
3. “The Imams possess all the knowledge granted to angels, prophets and messengers” (Al-Kulaini, Al-Kaafi, p.255.) Well here is more shirk from the Shia… How can an Imam, who is just a human, know the Unseen??? Only Allah knows the Unseen, and think about this. The Imams were not even alive at the time of all of the prophets so here is a major contradiction in the Shia faith!
4. “The Imams know when they will die, and they do not die except by their own choice” (Ibid, p: 258) Now, this is a clear statement of blasphemy. Only Allah knows when a man will die! And these Shia say that their Imams have control over the timing of their death. This is major blasphemy and “shirk” (polytheism) for any one to believe in all the things that the Shia say about their Imams!
5. “The Imams have knowledge of whatever occurred in the past and whatever will happen in the future, and nothing is concealed from them” (Ibid, p. 260.) Only Allah knows the future for any person to say that these Imams know the Unseen is committing “Shirk” (polytheism) and takes himself outside Islam.
6. “The Imams have knowledge of all the revealed books, regardless of the languages in which they were revealed” (Ibid, p. 227) As you can see these Shia have elevated their Imams to a God-like level, and the Shia say that there is nothing wrong with this!!!
7. “No one compiled the Qur’an completely except the Imams, and they encompass all of its knowledge’ (Ibid, p. 228) So since the Qur’an was not compiled by the Imams then does that mean that the Quran is fabricated??? These Shia want to even destroy Islam… look at what they say, they even insult the Qur’an!! And it is a well known fact that the Shia have their own Qur’an
8. “Signs of the prophets are possessed by the Imams” (Ibid, p. 231) The Shia have once again elevated their Imams to a very high level. The Imams they refer too are only human! So why do the Shia worship them.
9. “When the Imams’ time comes, they will rule in accordance with the laws of prophet David and his dynasty. These Imams will not need to ask for presentation of evidence before passing their judgments” (Ibid,p. 397) The Shia even believe that their Imams can do what ever they want!! Here they say that their Imams can just pass judgment on anybody! And they say that their Imams will not rule according to the Qur’an, but will rule by the laws of David!! (All Muslims must rule by the Qur’an and Sunnah). This is a proof that the awaited Imam of the Shia is not the one that Muslims believe in, but he is indeed the Anti-Christ (Al-Dajjal). The one that all Jews are waiting for him to be their leader.
10. “There is not a single truth possessed by people, save that which originated with the Imams. Everything which did not originate from the Imams is false” (Ibid, p.277)
Let us examine what the Shia’s main reference books say about their Imams:
1. Imam Ali is God. (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol. 2, p. 66, pub. in Pakistan)
2. There is no difference between Ali & Allah (meaning they are the same person/ entity). (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol. 2, p. 85)
3. Wherever the Quran mentions “Rab” (meaning Lord/God), according to this Shia book, that word should be substituted with Imam Ali’s name. (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol. 2, p. 66)
4. Imam Ali & his descendants are omni-present (everywhere & anytime) and omni-scient (have unlimited knowledge) and these attributes are theirs alone, and therefore are not attributes of Allah. (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol. 2, p. 85)
5. Imam Ali & his descendent Imams know everything that:
(a) happened in the past,
(b) is happening now, and
(c) will happen in the future.
(Usool Kaafi, Vol 1, p260 & Vol. 2, p. 10)
6. It is a fundamental principle of faith that our (Shia) Imams have ranks higher than the ranks of angels & God’s prophets. (Khomeini’s book, Hukuma Islamiya, p. 52)
7. The Imam possesses more attributes than a Prophet. (Usool Kaafi, Vol.1, p. 388)
8. All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a. w). (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 270)
9. Shia must follow the Imam when he is under the state of Taqiya (lying about his true faith). (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 40)
10. Imams receive divine revelations. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 176 & p. 329-330)
11. The Imams are the eyes of the God in his creatures and the final authority in the affairs of all human beings. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 145)
12. The Hujjat ( Ultimate proof ) of God can not be established without an Imam. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 177)
13. “The acceptance of Ali’s Wilaya is as important as the acceptance of the prophethood of the prophets”. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 197)
14. Every year, in the Night of Power (Lailat ul Qadr, which occurs in Ramadan), God sends commandments (revelations) to the Imams. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 248)
15. An Angel provides divine revelations to the Imams in the Night of Power. (Shab-e-Qadar, p.569)
16. An Imam knows his hour of death and his death is under his control. (Usool Kaafi, Vol.1, p. 258)
17. To hide a secret and to weep for the sake of an Imam is considered as Jihad. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 226)
18. Imam Hussain said “By God, Muawiyah is better than the Shia: they have tried to killed me”. (Al-Ehtijaj, Vol. 2, p. 290)
19. Imam Mahdi recited the Sura-e-Qadar before his birth. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. 2, p. 475)
20. When Imam Mahdi comes, he will be naked in daylight. The first disciple to take a pledge of allegiance to him will be prophet Mohammad. (Haqqul Yaqeen, Vol. 2, p. 337)
21. Imam Mahdi will kill all the Sunni Scholars. (Haq-ul-Yaqeen, p. 527)
22. Imam Mahdi will bring new Sharia (divine law) and commandments. (Behar-ul-Anwaar, Vol. 10, p. 597)
23. Imam Mahdi will declare himself to be a prophet. (Behar-ul-Anwaar, Vol. 10, p. 550)
24. Imam Mahdi will take revenge against all the sins since Adam (a.s). (Basair-ud-Darajat, p. 83)
25. The Sun will rise from the West at the time of Imam Mahdi’s appearance. (Chawdah Sitaray, p. 585)
26. Imam Mahdi will appear when only forty two believing Shia will be left on the face of the Earth. (Chawdah Sitaray, p. 571)
27. All angels will swear allegiance to Imam Mahdi. (Chawdah Sitaray, p. 594)
28. An Imam talks before being born. (Ahsan-ul-Muqaal, Vol. 1, p. 327)
29. The Imams are NOT born like ordinary human beings from their mothers’ wombs. (Jila-ul-A’yoon, Vol 2, p.474)
30. An Imam is born from his mother’s thigh (not from his mother’s womb). (Ahsan-ul-Muqaal, Vol. 1, p. 325)
31. Yazeed Bin Muawiyah was the real uncle of Imam Ali Akbar bin Hussain (r.a). (Zabhan Azeem, p. 261)
32. Yazeed was the name of Imam Hussain’s son. (Tareekh-ul-Ayema, p. 83)
33. There was no horse named Zuljinah in Karbala. (Zabhan Azeem, p. 223)
34. Imams possess authority to declare any thing lawful or unlawful. (Khilaqat-e-Norania, p. 155)
35. Imamate is a divine rank like Prophethood. An Imam is infallible and every creature in the universe is subject to his command and must obey him. (Tohfa Namaz-e-Jaffria, p. 28)
36. Imamate is equal to Prophethood. (Tohfa-tul-Awaam, p. 7)
37. All Prophets had to recognize and accept the Wilayat of Ali (meaning that Ali is Wali of Allah) before they were appointed as prophets. (Tareekh-e-Shia, p. 18)
38. Imam Ali ( R.A. ) was the creation of angel Jibreel (Gabriel). (Al-Majalis Al-Fakhra, p. 128)
39. Imam Ali did Miraaj (made a journey to Heaven during his lifetime) before Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w). (Dewan-e-Jil Ehzan, p. 38)
40. The rank of Ali’s Wilayat is higher than prophethood. (Hazaar Tumhari Das Hamari, p. 52)
Is there an Imamah concept in Islam that Sunni Muslims accept? Who can be considered an Imam, from Sunni Muslims perspective?
Let us initially define the term Imamah:
In Arabic, an Imam is a leader whom others follow, such as one who leads the prayer, who heads a group or even the Caliph. Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w.) is the Imam of all the Imams. Furthermore, the title Imam can be used for one who is an expert of a certain field. To illustrate, it is said that al-Bukhari is an Imam of Hadith, Malik, Abu Hanifah, al-Shafi’i, Ibn Hanbal are Imams in Islamic Jurisprudence, and so on.
Allah [s.w.t.] says in Quran 2:124 :
” Recall that Abraham was put to the test by his Lord, through certain commands, and he fulfilled them. (God) said, “I am appointing you an Imam (leader or role model) for the people.” He said, “And also my descendants?” (God) said, “My covenant does not include the transgressors.” ”
Another example is Allah’s [s.w.t.] saying in the Quran 21:73 :
“And We made them Imams (leaders) who guide by Our command, and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds, the observance of regular prayers, the giving of Zakat (required charity), and they were our devoted worshippers.”
Quran 9:12 says:
“If they violate their oaths after pledging to keep their covenant, and attack your religion, you may fight the Imams (leaders) of disbelief- surely, they have no regard for their oaths – so that they may desist.”
Quran 28:41 says:
“And We made them Imams who invite/lead (people) to HellFire, and, on the Day of Resurrection, they will have no help.”
From the above definitions, we can understand the reason why the Khalifah (Caliph) is called an Imam too. Imam Abu Zahra explained:
“It was called Caliphate because whoever assumes it and becomes the Prince of the Faithful (Governor of the Muslims), is actually succeeding the Prophet [saw] in managing the affairs of the Muslims. It is also called al-Imamah, because the Khalifah (Caliph) used to be called Imam, and because his obedience is compulsory and the people follow him as they follow the one who leads the prayer.” (Aqeedat al-Imamah: Ali Ahmad As-Saloos, PhD, p.9 )
9. Hazrat Abu Bakr (r.a) could not recite Kalma at the time of his death. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 211)
10. When Our Qaim (12th Imam) gets up, Humira (Ayesha) will be raised from the dead so as to be whipped her due punishment, and so as to avenge the daughter of Muhammad (s.a.w.s), Fatima. (Al Shafi, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 108)
11. Ali is God. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 66)
12. The Hujjat (Ultimate proof ) of God can not be established without Imam. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 177)
13. “Changes in Qur’an for Drinker Khulafa-e-Rashideen”. (TranslationOf Quran Majeed by Maqbool Hussain Dehlevi, Page No. 479)
14. Shaitan was the first to sworn the oath of allegiance from Abu Bakr in the mosque. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 30)
15. “An accusation of poisoning to Prophet by Ayesha and Hafsa”. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Page No. 118)
16. Imams are God. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 85)
17. Imam knows his hour of death and his death is in his control. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1,Page No. 258)
assalam o alikum everybody, plz yeh sunni shia k jhagron ko khatam kr do yar.mujhy deen ka zyada knowledge nahin hai mujhy nahin pta shia sahi hai ya sunni.khamkha hi ksi pr kafir k fatwe lagana sahi nahin hai.main apne haqeer elam ki badolat yahan kuch baten mention kr rha hun is pr amal kerne wala kamyab hai chahe wo shia ho ya sunni.
1.allah k sath ksi ko shareeq met thehrao
2.hazar muhammad (saw) ko allah ka akhri nabi thehrao aur apni zindagi ko un ki sunaton k mutaq guzarne ki koshish karo.aur kamon besh 1 lakh 24 haraar ambia pr b yaqeen rakho
3.quran pak ki taleemat ki parwi karo
4. nabi (saw) k ksi b sahabi ki shan mein gustakhi met kro
5. ahle bet se muhabbat kro
6. olia karam ka adab kro.
yehi maqsade hyat ha musalmano plese jhagron ko khatam kr do
Yazeeeed Teri jad te lanat 🙂 Suni bhaiyu yr ap k khud Ahle sunat mai itna zyda firqay hn Quran arbi mai na pharo bachon bal k Tarjuma pharo pr ye dimaG ki bt jo tm se nai Hoga Ssp Murda bad beta Sipah mohmmad underground hai jald he show hoti fr dekhna haL Sare munkir Thap Deny :)lolz
Hidayat mangny pe he milti madrason mai sab se zyda bura kam ho ra or dhari ko b budanam kiya wa tm burchon ne
Yazeeb Teri jad te lanat
Bht LAte Pucnha Es Site Pe ChaLoO Koi Bt Nahi 🙂 Mujhe Sabit karo shia kaisy kafir apni Gandi zuban se nahi hadees Or Quran se Fr main sAbit krta tm loGn ki Aslihat
Jab Tak alem na ho zuban na kholo hamre nabi (s.a.w.w) Begair Wahi k zuban nae kholty thy bolty nae thy or tm lOG Begair phary likhy GHALT BTAIN KRTY HO
Momen shaib, parda hataya to bura man gaye, lanet bajnay say kam nahi chalta, app in hawaloon ka jawab dain jo pash e khadmat hain, bool dain ka ya tamam likhnay walay Khanzeer ki ulad hain aur in ko mannay walay bi yahoodin ki nasal hain, ya kitabain likhnay waly ki randi bazar ki padawar hain, ham na aj tak ahl e bait ko borah nahi kaha, bulkay un ka ahtram karty hain, lakin sahaba e karam ki gustakhi karnay waloon par bi LANNAT bajjtay hain,
YE GALI DENA KIS HADEES ME LIKHA HAI K LOGON KO GALIYAN DIA KARO?
JAB NEBI PAK SALL ALLAHU ALAEHE WASALLAM NE GALI NAI DI KISI KO TU AP LOG Q DETE HO GALI?
NABI PAK K BHI TU CHACHA K KALEJA CHABAYA THA HINDA NE JO K AURAT THI. USKO TU GALI NAI DI GAI THI???
KOI REFERENCE K SATH BAT KARNA PLEASE AUR TOPIC CHANGE NA KARNA.
JAZA K ALLAH
Mr momin waise to ma phle bi ye references quot kr chuka hn chalo aik br phir kr deta hn surah al bakara ayat no 13 jb in kafro se munafqo se kha jata ha iman Lao jaise or log lae(sahaba)munafiqo ne kha k hm in bewaqufo ki trha iman lain.jawab ma Allah ne kha k tm sahaba ko bewaquf khte ho tm khud bewaquf ho tm isko ni jante.munafiqo ne sahaba ko kafir kha jawab ma Allah ne munafiqo ko bewaquf kha sabak Kia dia qayamt tk Jo lafz sahaba k leye istmal Kia jae ga ye insano ka ni Allah ka triqa ha ab agr sahaba ko murtid kafir kha jae to Allah ki is ayat ka mutabik wo bi kafir murtid ha??ab dekho hadees ko mere bd koi nabi Hota to Umer hota.aik dafa Nabi masjid ma dakhil hoe aik trf Umer aik trf Abu bakr kha logo dekho hm aise janat ma dakhil hn gae. Ab btao hadees ka munkir Jon hota ha??? Chalo ab tmare ulma Kia khte hn allama jawad naqvi about hazrat Ayesha you tube kisi k muqadseen ki insult krna haram ha jb hazrat Ali ne ni ki hm kon hote hn Kia Alise bare Ali k Shia hn ab ye btao Ali ka munkir shiaism ma kn???? Tmara apna Shia scholar javed chaudhry k program kal tak ma Mazhar Hussain mashidi khta ha Jo sahaba ko kafir murtid kehe wo khud kafir murtid ab btao Mazhar mashidi Shia ni??? Btao Allah k sath kisi ko shariq krne wala kn??? To ye btao jo Ali ko khuda ka darja de wo kn???Hamare leye hmare muaqf ko prov krne k leye yehe kafi ha ab tm mjhay Quran or Hadees se imamat hone ko sabit kro??? Agr imamt ha to btao wo knsi chez thi jis ne Nabi ko khul k imamt ka logo ko btane se roka ???agr immat Islam ka lazmi hisa ha to btao Nabi ki nabuat ka Quran ma jaga jaga iqrar ha Ali ki Immamt ka iqrar kyo ni???
LETS ME FREE FROM PAPER KS KHAN….I WILL DEAL WITH YOU……TUM SE BARAY BARAY AYE HAIN HAMAIN KAFIR SABIT KERNAY K LIYEA WOH KAMYAB NAHI HUYA TU TUM KIYA CHEEZ HU…TUMSE TUMHAREY LEVEL PE AA K BAAT KERNA PARAY GIIII…TUM JESAY LOGON KEY KHOON MAIN GANDAGI HUTI HAIN AUR TUM JESAY LOUG HI ISLAM KO APNAY TARIKEY SE MOURNA CHAHTAY HU AUR APNI SO CALLED AQAL KE MUTABIK SAMAJHTAY HU…UMER APNI MEETHI ZABAN USE KER K ZIADA DRAMA NAHI KARO TUMHARAY DILON MAIN KIYA HAI WOH SAAF ZAHIR HAI……..
HIZBULLAH JO TUMNAY ALFAAZ ISTAMAL KIYA US PE TU TUM WAJIB UL QATAL HUYE…
UMER TUMHAREY SO CALLED SAHABA UMER ABU BAKAR THEEKH TARIKE SE MUSALMAN NAHI THAY TUM MOMIN KIYA HUN GAY…ISLAM KO BAJAYA SIRF IMAM ALI KI ULAAD NAY HAI….AGAR WILAYAT ALI NAHI MANO GAY TU TUMHARI NAMAZAIN ROUZAY HAAJ SAB BATIL….
KS KHAN UPER MAIN NAY HIZBULLAH KO JO JAWAB DIYA HAI WOHI JAWAB TUMHAER LIYEA BHI HAI…
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Mr alishan kazmi Abu bakr Umer Usman k momin hone ka certificate hmain tm logo se ni chahiae.agr Abu bakr Umer Usman momin ni to dunia ma koi bi momin ni.dalail ka jwab dalail se do agr koi ap logo ki books ma se reference deta ha to usko justify kro.rhe bt Imamat ki walayat ki to dear Quran or Hadees se sabit kro bec is se bra source to or koi ni ha na Jo bt Quran or Hadees se sabit ni uska koi bi wajood ni.tell me one thing tm log hyper kyo hote ho dalail se bt kro gali to koi bi de skta ha.Baki aj agr Islam dunia k Kone Kone ma ha to us ma in khulfa ka bht bra hath ha is se koi inkar ni kr skta.
umer tu apnay lagai hui baat pe yeah kehtay hu k quran se aur hadees se yeah sabit karo jo tum shia kehtay hu tu tum pehlay quran ya hadees se yeah sabit karo k hum shia kafir hain aur agar hum umer usman ko bura kehtay hain tu us k response main hum kafir kesay huye quran se sabit karo…jahan tak baat hamaray certificate ki hai tu jis terha se bakool tumharey hamaray kehnay se yeah sabit nahi huta hai k umer abu bakar sahi tarikey se musalman nahi usi tarike se tumharey kehnay se yeah sabit nahi huta k agar umer momin nahi tu koi bhi momin nahi….han lakin tarikh gawah hai k umer abu bakar nay jo rasool aur un ki aaal k saath kiya aur specially bibi zehra k saath jo badtamizi ki un ki behurmati ki us k baad tu woh musalman tyu kiya insaan kehlanay k laiq nahi…aur jahan tak baat |MR tumhari islam ko phelanay ki hai tu woh in so called 3 sahaba ki wajah se nahi pehlay aur wesy bhi logically jo tumharey sahaba jang e safeen aur jang e hunain ke baghoray thay un ki wajah se phelay ga???kuch sharam karo tum loug….islam ko kabhi tumharey so called bhagoray sahaba ki zarorat nahi thi na hai aur na rahay gi..islam ki baka sirf imamat hai aur is ka sabout merey imam e hussain ka apna aur apni puri aaal ki jaan ka nazrana dey ker islam ko namaz ko bachana hai imame hussain nay sirf islam ko hi nahi balkey rasool aur khuda key farman ko bhi bachaya aaj agar her ghar main namaz huti hai azaaanain huti hain tu is ka credit sirf imam jo jata hai aur yeah baat mujhhai tumhai sabit kernay ki zarorat nahi aaj media itna strong hai k us main is terha ki discussions buhat huti hain tumharey umer abu bakar hamaray imam key pairon ki dhoul mitti key kabil bhi nahi hain…..tum loug kehtay hu k imam e hussain ko tum mantay hu????sirf zaban hila hila k baat kernay se kuch nahi huta…tumharey dil kitnay kaalay hain hum sab jantay hain….aur is main tumhara koi koi qasoor nahi tumharey abao ajdad(umer abu bakar usman) kay jab dil kalay thay tu tumharey tu huna hi thay….aik baat her tarikay se sabit hai k islam ki baka sirf imamat hai aur is ka sabout past main karbala hai aur anay walay waqt main hamaray 12 imam ka zahoor huna aur islam ki baka ke liyeah islam dushmanon se jang larna hai….is ka yeah saaf matlab hai k jab bhi islam ko zarorat mahsoos hui sirf imamat nay hi bachaya aur allah pak nay bhi imamat ko isi liyeah ta qayamat tak bacha k rakha hua hai….
KS KHAN AHMED MUSLIM KI DEFINITION POUCHTAY HU…MUSLIM WOH HAI JO 20 YA 25 DIL PEHLAY 70 JANAZON KAY SAATH AUR AAJ 80 JANAZON KEY SAATH AIK PROPER TARIKEY SE PROTEST KER RAHA HAI BAGAIR KISI VIOLATION KAY….YEAH HAI MUSLIM AUR KAFIR WOH HAI JIS NAY QUETTA MAIN BOMB BLAST MAIN IS MERTABA HAMLA AURTON BACHON KO TARGET KIYA YEAH HAIN KAFIR JO TUM JESAY LOUG HAIN JO MASUM BACHO AUR AURTON AUR LARKON KO NASHANA BANATAY HAIN….UMER KS KHAN AHMED TUM JITNAY BHI LOUG HU SAB WAIT KARO QAYAMAT KA SAB PATA CHAL JAYE GA TUM LOGON KO KE KUON KITNA SAHI HAI AUR KUON KITNA GHALAT…WAIT FR THAT….KS KHAN MUTAA PE JO TUM NAY POUCHA THAY WAIT KERNA JAWAB ZAROR DUN GA…..
UMER TUM QURAN KI AAYAT KA CONTINEOUSLY GHALAT MATLAB NIKLA RAHAY HU MAIN PHIR KEH RAHA HUN K YEAH REF UN LOGON K LIYEAH THI JU US WAQT KAY KAFIR THAY AUR WOH LOUG APNAY BANAY HUYE IMAMON KO RASOOL AUR UN KI AAL KAY SAATH MATCHED KERTAY THAY UN K MUKABALAY PE LEE KE ATAY THAY…..YEAH QUOTAION HAMARAY LIYEAH NAHI HAI TUM QURAN KA GHALAT TERJUMA KER RAHAY HU…AUR YAAD RAHAY YEAH QURAN HAI TUMHAREY KISI FAREBI MOULVI KI LIKHI HUI KITAB NAHI ALLAH TUMHAREY GHALAT BANAY HUEY AIK AIK LAFZ KA HISAAB LE GA I AM SURE..
UMER QURAN MAIN IMAM KA ZIKER HAI LAKIN WOH “AMAR” LAFZ SE KIYA GAYA HAI…..TUMHAEY WOH AAYAT BHI QUOTE KARUN GA….
KS KHAN TUMHAREY REF KA JAWAB BI DUN GA WAIT….
KS KHAN TU APNA SHAJRA E NASAB TU BATA????BAKI TERI BATON KA JAWAB BHI DUN GA.
Mr alishan kazmi bibi zahra k sath zulm o sitm ki mn gharat dastan sirf shiaism ki ap bnai hoi ha aise kisi bi waqe ka wajood hi ni is ka sb se bra proof Um e Qulsoom ki Umer se shadi ha thori se aqal istmal kro jis ko tm imam e zamana khte ho apni biwi pe zulm krne wale se apni beti ki shadi kr di wao yehi is bt ka saboot ha k aisa koi waqia ni hoa chalo mjhay is shadi ki justification do Ali to kisi jang se ni bhaga ab aise knsi mjbori thi Nabi ki beti pe zulm krne waleko beti ka rishta dia justify it???????? Abu bakr Umer Usman jang k bhagore hn sirf Umer ne Islam ki saltnat ko 20 lakh muraba mile tk le k Gaya Nabi k bd bd murtido se munkir zaqat se jihad Kis ne Kia btao ???? Sehr bano jis se tmare immao ki nasl chali Kis ki ata krda thi btao????? Kasur tmara bi ni tmko Jo tmare abao Ajdad ne btaya tm wohi kaho ge.Abu bakr Umer Usman ko hm khulfa mante hn immam ni tm to immamt ko Islam ka lazmi hisa khte ho khulfa to majlis e shura se bnte hn tell me immamt ka Quran ma Hadees ma zikr kyo ni milta k Nabi k bd ab immamt ho gi Ali pehla immam ho ga????? Bt wo kro kid ko aql tasleem kre agr namaz Azan Hussain ki karzdar ha to aj dunia ka hr muslman Shia hota aj dunia k 90% se ziada muslim sahaba se mohabt rakhte hn ok tell me one thing Ali ne 4th no pe khilaft kyo li unko to haqoomt ki zarort ni thi wo to immam hn baqool tmare???? Baki bt ayat ki ha to zahir ha Allah ne us waqt k munafiqo k leye kha tha na ye to ni kha tha k aj se1400 sal bd Jo Pakistan ma nunafiq hn ye ayat un k leye ha. Munafiqo ko Kia kha aise imman Lao jaise or log(sahaba)iman lae us waqt k munafio ne kha k hm aise iman lain jaise ye bewaquf iman lae Allah ne Kia kha wo bewaquf ni tm bewaquf ho is ka tmko ilm ni .ye us waqt k munafiqo ko adress Kia lakin Quran ki taleemat sirf us waqt k logo tk mehdood to ni thi sabq to yehi ha k Jo bi qayamt tk sahaba ko Jo lafz istmal kare ga wohi us k leye istmal krna Allah ka triqa ha Quran ki taleemat to roz e akhir tk hn. Tmare apne schola Kia khte hn k Jb Ali ne sahaba ko bura ni kha hm kn hote hn bura khne wale Kia hm Ali se bare Ali k Shia hn.follow the people like jawad naqvi who r real Shias hmara aise shio se koi Ikhtalaf ni we respect them we respect their beliefs. We also condemn incident in queeta yes aise log muslim ni ho sakte Jo kise ko na haq qatal krte hn ye log Kafiro se bi bdtr hn chahe wo Sunni hn ya Shia.
Mr Ali Shan Kazmi, ap na jis tarikay sa likha ha ,so called sahaba Umer and Usman, sharim ani chahiay ap ko, un sahaba e karam ka nam is bud tameezi sa lai rahay hain, jo Nabi E Kareem SAW sathi thay, bazoo thay, eyes thay, jin ka zamanay ma islam kahen sa kahen tak phael gia, ap ka so called Immams jin ka ziker saway ap loogoo ki kitaboo ka elawa kisi jagha nahi, mary payaray sahaba e karam ka ziker to qurran ma aiya ha, ap na aik fatwa muj par bi laga dia ha, ka ma wajib ul qatal hoon, ap ki apni kitaboon say hawalay pash karny par ap ka ya hall ha, aur un ka writters par lanat bajnay par ap naraz ho gaey, O qurran ka munkaro tum par Allah ki lanat, O alh e bait ka munkaro tum par Allah ki lanat, O sahaba ka munkaro tum par Allah ki lanat, O namaz ka munkaro tum pa Allah ki lanat, O zakat ka munkaro tum pa Allah ki lanat,
Mr Alishan, ma app app likhta raha aur app tum par a gaey, ok ab tum na mara shajra e nasab pocha ha, maray shajra e nasab nasab ka suno gay to hosh dhikanay a jaen gay, lakin ma kisi zat pat ka huq ma nahi, ya sirf india pakistan ma ha, hundu loogoon ma pundat thay, us ka muqablay ma shah bana lia aur sab say muqadam ban gay, Nabi e Pak saw ka farman ha , arbabi ko ajmi par aur goray ko kalay par koi fazilat hasal nahi, sirf Taqwa, ab ap loog ahl e bait ka libada pahan kar hum loogoon ko bawaqoof bana rahay hain, Nabi e Pak saw na farmaia say farmaia Aah Fatima qayamat ka din mari qarabat pa na rahna apna apna hisab, (quita kay blast ki ma pur zoor muzamat karta hoon aur yay balast karnay waly muslim nahi hain) ya sub amarica aur Iran ki chal ha, baqi maray hawaloon ka jawab zaroor dana, aur un books ka writters ki ma……………………., fill in the blanks, tum khud karna,
To Umer my hero, i slut u, nali ma jutay bigoo bigoo kar mar rahay ho, Allah app ko zindgi da, Allah khush rakhay, mari jan aik bat ap ko bata doon, ap jitnay bi hawalay dain ya manay walay nahi, yar mujay aik bat bata dain in ka Immams na koon sa islamic r historical kam kia ha, aur khas kar in ka 12th immam na joo sirf 5 sal ka cave ma intazar kar raha ha, tuf ha in ka is nazriay par
dear brothers
plz app koi bhi hai shia ya sunni, kisi ko gali mat dein. apni baat dalael say sabit karain or haan apny lehjy main sab narmi apnaen. ham yahan pay firqawariat khatam karny aae hain na k barhanay. dehsat gard na sunni hai na he shia. ham sab logon ko mil kar jo dehsat gar ham main shmil ho gae hain na chahy wo koi Lashkar ho ya phir Sipah, hamain un ko apni safon say nikalna hai or apny behaviour ko moderate banana hai. kisi py kuch force mat karain. apni baat logic say karain, jis ko samajni hai wo aaram say he samjhay ga gusay say manta bhi ho ga tu nahi manay ga. mery 23rd say paper hain main nay abi shamil nahi hona tha behas main but logon ko talkh kalami karty dekha tu iss waja say aaya hoon. see all of you soon. Or han ham sab ko Hazara biradri k sath izhar e yakjehti karna chahiay, q k yay sirf shia ka qatal nahi hai, sunni bi shaheed hoay hongay oss main. yay qatel e aam insaniat ka qatal hai or main iss ki shahdeed mazamat karta hoon. agar wo christian ya jews bhi hotay tu bhi yay ghalt tha, wo tu sab musalman shaheed hoay hai.
To Ks Khan.
app jis tarha chahtay hain k app k muqadasat ka ahtaram kia jae tu app bhi dosry k muqadasat ka ahtaram karain. app agar dosry k muqadasat ka ahtaram karain gay tu dosra bhi app k samnay app k muqadasat k ahtaram kary ga. so brother please understand it. larai kisi maslay ka hal nahi hai. hamain larai ko khatam karna hai. agar koi kisi ki kisi baat ko nahi manta tu na manay. but itehad ko tu qaim karny ki kosis ki ja sakti hai na. jab US ya Jews muslims ko marty hain na tu wo yay nahi dekhty k sunni hai ya shia. wo dekhty hai muslim hai, bas mar do. hamain iss cheez ko ub realize kar jana chahiay. shia sunni deobandi barelvi jo koi bhi ho sab ko Points of Differences jo k bohat kam hain unn ko dabana chahiay. or jo Points of Similarities hai onn ko obharna chahiay. Hope that ham sab mil kar aik dosry main moderate behaviour peda kar sakain. aik dosry ko bardasht karna ka aik dosry k sath mil jul k rehny ka hosla peda kar sakain.
Asslamualykum ….
k.s khan brother dekho en sy behs mt kro yai ni smjny walay…
bhai yai to h he saly gafil hmy b kr de gy hm to gunha gar h bhai jo en k immam h wo hmry b imam h as a individual …. hmry zabn se kch nikal jay to azab hm per chady gay
yaha jitny b shia h wo es swal ka jwb de meri trf se or ks khan or usman ki trf se swal h ek baap ki nasal ho to jwb zarur dena…?
Tum shia koo ek hee challange hai bas ek sawal ka jawab de doo .
Lee aao kahi se jaha pe Hazrat Ali Ra ne Hazrat Abu Bakr Ra ki khilafat koo nahi mana hai yaa kahi pe kaha hoon mujhe woh khilafat manzoor nahi hai. Qayamat ka din aa jiyega tum yeh cheez kabhi nahi lee aa sakte.
P.s. Gaali deke apna time khraab nahi karna , baat daleel ki hai …. Daleel lee aao.
Shavez bhai pehlay app bhi gali say gurez karain. agar app gali dain gay tu dosry bhi dain gay. i hope u understand
Dear safeer ma ap se 100%agree krta hn gali ka istmal bilkul galat ha dalil se bt ki jae.dear safeer Sunni Shia ko kafir khte hn to Shia bi Sunni ko muslman ni samjte bec immamt shiaism k mutabik Islam ka important part ha us ka inkar krne Wala muslman ni Sunni immamt ko ni mante to zahr ha Shia k nazdeeq wo muslim ni.ab agr ma koi bt krta hn to ap ka right ha ap us se ikhtlaf kro or us k muqable ma dalil do apne bt ki support ma references do.isi trha ma ne apne bt ki support ma Quran hadees or ap k ulma ko quot Kia apko ikhtlaf ha ap mjhay correct krne k leye dalil do evidence do.ma ap k scholar jawad naqvi ko credit dn ga he is a v realistic Shia scholar ap unki speech suno v positive.hazrat Ayesha k bare ma unki speech ma kha k Ayesha ne Ali se jang ki un k is fail ki taqleed to ni kr Skte bt un ka ahtram hm per lazim ha bec Ali ne un ka ahtram Kia bt ko conclude krte hoe he said k Ali se bare Ali k Shia to ni hn na hm. Mere bt ka maqsad ye ha k jawad naqvi Kia Shia ni Kia wo 12 imam ko manne Wala ni when he said Hazrat Ayesha k fail sable qabool ni he presented Shia views bt he showed respect towards Ayesha this is true shiaism ab HR Shia yehi triqa apnae to ye lrai khatam ho jae.ab alishan kazmi ne sahaba k bare ma Jo kha apne comment ma k wo thek trha se muslman bi ni tell me ye shiaism ki kn si khdmt ha Phir age chal k insult ki intiha kr di k sahaba to insan khlane k kabil bi ni ab koi insan itne cheap comments de phir peace ki bt ho Kia isko aql tasleem Krti ha phir khta ha k sahaba hamare immamo k qadmo ki dhool k barabr ni hm sahaba ko apni jano se Aziz rakhte hn alishan k comments bilkul qabil e qabool ni agr usko sunnio se problm ha dalil se bt kare hm se argue kare bt is kism k cheap comments is masle ko ziada hwa dete hn mane phle bi kha tha k is mulq k log bht sensitive hn zat pat pe zuban k ikhtlaf se suba Parsti pe aik dusre ko mar dete hn Karachi ma mahajreen blooch areas ma ni jA Skte Jain to mar deye jate hn Bloch mahajreen areas ma ni jA Skte my dear ye to un San se bht bra issue ha bht sensitive issue ha logo k aqeeda ka deen ka masla ha hmko apne comments ma bht muhtat rehna ho ga I once again appreciate Ur views about peace.
Safeer e Azza, ma ap ki bat say 100% agreed hoon, but ap na khud dakha k Kazmi na jis tra Sahaba e Karam ki insult ki, to kia hum bardasht kar lain, glass walay ghar ma baeth kar kisi ko pather nahi martay, koi swal karta ha to us ko us ko galian di jati hain aur us sa shajra e nasb pocha jata ha, give and take hona zuroori ha, ma na references diay lakin un ka jwab nahi dia, ab Ali immam is God, is tara ki bat ager ham pochthay hain to is ka jawab daleel sa dain, aur Ali ra na Abu Baker ra ki khalafat kuain qabool ki, ab ya swal ka jawab dain, aik bat yad rakhain Mudded sirf Allah sa talab kar saktay hain, ya Qurran ma clear ha, Umer my hero na bi swal pochay hain, i 100% agreed with umer,
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dear Umer bhai
main app ki post poori nahi parh saka but 1 agree with you 100% on hazrat Ayesha wali baat. good bohat achi baat ki hai app nay. baqi post papers k baad parhoon ga. phir inshallah baat ho gi.
KS Kahn app nay bhi sahi kaha. Kazmi bhai ko bo app say baat karty hoay app k muqadasat ka ahtaram karna chahiay. chahay koi kisi ko many ya na many but uss ko man’ny waly k samny uss ka ahtaram lazim ha. deeni toor pay bhi and ikhlaqi toor par bhi.
Mr alishan kazmi ma tm se pehle kh chuka hn k Sunni Shia ko kafir khte hn Shia Sunni ko bi muslman ni samjte agr koi Shia k against bt ha to us ka jawab Sunni ko do na k sahaba k bare cheap remarks do kisi k muqadseen ki respect sb pe farz ha ma tmko bar ha jawad naqvi k ref de chuka hn try to be sensible like him if u r educated don’t behave life illiterates.tmne kha k sahaba ne bibi k sath batmizi ki I replied u k agr aisa kush hoa hota to Kia wo apne bacho k nam sahaba k nam pe rakhte Kia wo apas ma rishtedarian krte???? Kia Ali khamosh rehta??? Kia Zulm krne wale ko apni beti ka rista dia jata ha??? Thori aqal tm bi use kro.rhe bt molana ishaq ki uski speech snne ki tmko ziada zarort ha mjhay ni question answers ma us k views suno sahaba k bare ma jis speech ka ref tm de rhe ho uski contradiction bi suno mr. Tmne kha k ma ne Quran ko galat justify Kia ha ab agr tmare samaj limited ha to ma Kia kr skta hn mere translation or Jo ref tmne quot keye unko compare kr lo tm khte ho k wo ayat hamare leye ni us waqt k Kafiro k leye thi yes us waqt k Kafiro munafiqo k leye thi saval ye ni ha k us ayat ma Kis ko mukhatib Kia mera argument ye ha k us ayat ma kha Kia Gaya ha sahaba ko bewaquf khne walo ko Allah ne bewaquf kha ab is ki implementation Kia ha k sahaba ko jo lafz kho ge wohi Allah ki is ayat k mutabik us k khilaf istmal Kia jae ga I’m sorry alishan is se asan ilfaz ni hn mere pas samjhame k leye I’m sure agr fifth class k bache ko samjhaya jae wo bi itni dair ma samj jae ga.Ali ki khilaft manne ka jawab dia k muslmano ma inteshar na ho. phle bt to tm khte ho k teno khulfa murtid ho gae kafir ho gae to kn se muslmano ma intense phalne ki bt kr rhe ho tm ye khna chahte ho k Ali ne kafro murtido k hawale Islam kr dia??? Agr immamt Islam ka integral part ha to Ali ne khilafat se dastbrdari kyo ki wo Aisa kr hi ni sake agr imam hote to???? Aise Surat ma Ali pe jihad farz tha na k murtido k hawale deen kr dia jata??? Logically Ur argument is wrong agr immam infallible hota ha to ye to itni bri mistake ha k his ki koi galago ni bec Ali agr us waqt jihad krte to aj 90%se ziada Shia hote dunia ma who is responsible for that.I again say to u don’t give derogatory remarks about sahaba mj se problm ha mj se bt kro ma tm ko gali dn tm mjhay do sahaba ko ni I hope agr tm ma thori bi insaniat ha u will follow it.
Kutty ek sala bolny per tujy ksy merchy lgi …. hmry sahaba per jo bokty ho kutty…
tm kafir ho kafiri..
tm sahaba k munkir… tm ap s.a.w ki malekay hayat amma aysha k munkir, tm quran k munkir …… tm ko muslim bulau main jo ap s.a.w ki biwi k bray main kya 2 bokty h saly mery juda ki dhul h tu kutty ….
kitna sharif bn raha h mutta ki olad ….. ja apni ammi ka soda b kr diya b,c
Shavez
main app say ziada gandi galian day sakta hoon. but main nahi doon ga q k yay keh k app bata rah ho k app ki nasal kia hai. oper comments parho. Umer bhai, KS Khan bhai sab aik dosry ko bhai bhai keh k baat kar rahy hain. ikhtalafat apni jaga. agar kisi nay gali di bhi hai tu galt kia hai. Main bata hoon jab baat shuru hoi thi na tu Meri or KS bhai ki bhi kafi talk kalami hoi. but abb ham sambhalny ki kosis main hain. aik dosry ko samajhnay ki kosis main hai. afsos hai mje app par. ham galat hain na, ok theek hai hamari na mano but Nabi (SAWW) ki tu maan lo. Onhon nay achak ikhlaq ki taleem di hai na k asy ki jesy k app behave kar rahy ho. agar mery kisi Shia bhai nay bhi koi galt baat ki hai tu wo tu galt hai. jo galt baat kary ga wo galt hai. app apna point piar say batao. q k gusay say jo manta bhi ho ga wo bhi nahi many ga.
Safeer e azza, ap na bilkul correct kaha, kisi ka muqadaseen ko burh bolo ga to dosra bi bolay ga, app bat kartay hain respect ka sath, ab Umer my hero bahi kitnay aetram sa bat kartay hain, kabi bi un ko ma na agresive nahi hotay dakha, ya un ki greetnes ha, ager Shavez Alam na sakht bat ki ha to ma maffi mangta hoon, lakin Alishan Kazmi iskader giri hoi bat karta ha k any person agresive ho sakta ha, Shavez Alam aik Islami janbaz ha, kazmi ki bat per usay gusa a gia aur isi tara mujay bi ata ha, Kazmi iskader budtameez ha ka sahaba e karam ka nam ki insult karta ha, mujay bayshak gali da, koi bat nahi, lakin ager wo sahaba e karam ki insult karay ga to ma us ki jud tak chala jaion ga, us na mara nam jantay huway bi maray shajra e nasab ka pocha ha, to kia kazmi ka shajra e nasab kisi mutta ki padawar ha (yad rahay o kazmi mutta tomaray fiqa ma bohat barah sawab ka kam ha) ma na itnay refrence diay hain, kazmi us ka jawab do, apnay Immams ka darja Anbia e karam AS, say ziada batatay ho, ma na tumaray Immams ko kabi bi burah nahi kaha, un ka aetram karta hoon, aik musalman samajtay howay, Kazmi apnay bap ki ulad ho to apnay khandan sa koi Hafiz e Qurran ka nam batayo, ma tum ko sirf apnay khandan say 20 persons ka nam day sucta hoon, aur yay sabat karta ha ka koon Qurran ka munker ha, qurran ka munker koon hota ha……………………..
Ks khan bhai yai chaty h yai hmry sahabo ko gali de .. hzor ki biwiyo per tohmd lgy ….boly quran to h he ni jo utra tha wo to hmra 12wo immam ly kr ay ga …… ali god h ….. fir hmsy umed krty h hm inko muslim boly hargiz ni boluga mery akka S.A.W k parivar per tohmd lgny walo tm ko muslim ni boluga ……… en main sy mera question ka ans ni diya ab tk na qaymat tk de sky gy inshallah
Jo Abu Baker Ra ka munker wo Nibi e pak SAW kay munker, faysla app kar lain,
Beshak ……
jo kalma ALI R.A ne phda wo to phdty nhi kud 2 jod diya usmain ….
hzrat ali r.a kbi kisi ko bura ni kaha yai gali dena swab smjhty h….
wo inka 12th immam 1.5 foot ki gar main he ab tk ni aaya na ay ga …….
yai bolty h nauzubilah ALLAH Quran asal h ni yai wo 12wa imam ly kr ay ga 😀 😀
Shavez bahi bilkul sahee farmaia ap na, 1350 sal say rohposh ha in ka immam gar ma, aur asli Qurran bi us ka pas ha, hamara kia qasoor ha, asli qurran wo khod parah raha ha, lanat ha un par jo is par yaqeen rakhtay hain, jo hamaray is qurran ka munker ha, wo dunia ka sub say barah kafir ha, kafir ha, 100000000000000000000000000000000000000 time,
abay Safeer e Azza Kanjar ki olaad jis umar main bhi emaan lain us se kiya farq parta hai kam us Hazrat Ali ki tarah 6 saal ki umar main tu emaan nahi laye jab bacahay ko pata hi nahi hota hai k emaan kis churiya ka naam hai.
Or baar kiya Rasool Allah ke kalam manga tu kis ne kalam nahi diya kehte rehte ho.
Soor ki bachoon Ali bhi khaday howe thay wahan per woh dete thay Rasool Allah ne kisi kan naam leker tu nahi manga tha agar baqi kisi nay nahi diya tu is ka matlab hai baqiyon ne bhi Hazrat Umer ki baat per ittefaq kiya.
or Rasool Allah ne bhi ek dafa kaha agar esi baat hoti tu woh phir keh dete lekin nahi Woh sirf check ker rahay thay mere sahab mera parhaya howa sabaq yaad hai k nahi or Hazrat Umer us main Paas ho gaye
Samajh ai haramion
Doobara mat poochna
Asslamualykum bhaiyo kal main ek shia se baat kr raha tha …. yai kanjar to ap S.A.W ki betiyo ki he ni manty
syyadnaa zainb r.a
syyadnaa kulsum r.a
fir mainy socha yai mana q krty h tb smj aya hmray nabi ne apni betiyo ka nikha hzrat usman r.a se jo kiya h…
mujy fakar h main us ummat main se hu jo nabi k gulam .ahly beit k gulam..sahaba k gulam or buzrgwar e din k gulam……..
@Yazeed tm hzrat Ali ka naam addb se lo wo hmry kalfaa e rashidin h ……
yai kanjar alg h yai
HZRAT ALI R.a ne kbi kch ni bola inhony unki he baat na mani….
k.s khan bhai ek post daluga 10 swal h agr yai jwb de de to man luga yai asal shia h….
hm shia ko kafir ni hm us ko kafi bolty h jo quran ka munkir sahaba ka munkir
…..kuda ka kof khao hramiyo
Dear All members ap log kou es baat ko etna ziada barha rahay hoo kou aaik dosray sy lar rahay ho kia Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W.W. nay yeh nai farmaya k kisi kafir ko bhi kafir kehna gunah hai Aehl-e-tashee hazrat aur sunni hazrat ya kisi bhi mazhab say taluq rakhney valey hoo kia vo es farman ko jhutlaengay?? Koun sahe hai aur koun galat yeh faisla ap nai kar sktay yeh haq sirif Allah Pak ko hasil hai behtreen hal yeh hai k ap kisi ko galat nai bolo kisi nabi aur sahaba ko bhi jo guzar gaey unko bura bolna bekar hai us vaqt tk jb tk k ap k pas koi suboot na hoo aur daroo us vaqt sy jab Allah Pak ka ghazab aur azab ham sb pe nazil hoo jisko sahe aur galat ka muwazna karna hai vo Allah Pak k agey jhuk jaoo phir jo chezz galat hogi ap us sy door hojaogy aur jo sahe hogi ap usi taraf chaley jaogy its my experiment and i am satisfy for this burai say bachna hai to namaz parhoo Quran Pak parhoo Allah sy daro khud he tm sahe rah pe chal nikloogay. sunni shia ko bura boltay hain aur shia sunni ko but koi faida hai es chez ka? Nai Jo shakhs Allah Pak k pass chala geya uska taluq es duniya sy tot jata hai so please kisi bhi janey valey ko bura nai bolo har jaga achay logon k sth burey log bhi hotey hain eska mtlb yeh nai k ham galiyan dain aur aik dosray ko bura bhala bolain
Aur agr kisi ko burai sy rukna chahtay hoo to us sy husan-e-sulook sy paish aoo us k liye dil mai bugz na rakhoo us k liye dua karoo k Allah Pak usko hidayat dain bas “Meri yehi dua hai ap sb k liye k Allah Pak ap sb ko hidayat ata farmaen aur aur galat mai tameez paida karney ki taufiq ata farmaen Ameen”.
Agar ap badtamezi k bajaey Ikhlaq sy baat karogay to samney vala khud bakhood ap k liye apney dil mai jaga bana laiga aur apki soch sy itifaq rakhayga aur phir yeh shia sunni deobandi ya koi bhi maslak vala hoo aik dosray sy laraingay nai. Kisi k bhi dil ko mat dukhao kou k har dill mai Allah Pak rehtay hain.
At last a very complicated question to all of them
App ka nam asal mai kiska nam hai?
App k jisim ka, Appki rooh ka ya kisi aur chez ka?
koi bhi answer hoo uska solid reason daina then i give you the right answer with solid reason. Mujhy nahi lagta k kisi ko es cheez ka ilim hoga. I am waiting
SikanderAhmed, app na bat to taqreeban correct ki ha aur app na complicated questions pochay hain, bahi yahan in question ki zarrorat nahi, yahan question ha, garat ka aur ba garti ka, aik question ma app ko karta hoon, ager koi app ki mother ya father ko gali da to ap ka kia jawab ho ga, ager ap khamoshi ikhtiar kartay hain to ap bohat barahy bay garat hain, isi tarah jo hamari Um Al Mominat ra ko gali day to aur ham khomashi ikhtiar kartay hain to ham bohat barahy baygarat hi nahi, munafiq hain, jis ki azmat ki Allah Ji na qurran ma sorah e noor utar di, us par jab koi gustakhi karay to ap ki nazr ma wo kon ha, ham to itna chahtay hain k kisi bi sahaba e karam ki gustakhi na ho,
Mr. Ks Khan ap mjhy aik baat ka jawab doo ap apney apko bht bara Ashiq-e-Rasool aur sahaba bol rahay hoo apko yeh baat pata hai k fatah-e-makkah k bad aik aurat rasool S.A.W.W. pe kachra phainkhti thi apney kabhi bhi us ko gali nai dii bura bhala nai bola jan sy nai mara kou es liye k unka badla Allah Pak lai rahay hotey hain phir jb aik din us aurat ny kachra nai phainkha to apney apney sahabi ko bhejha k ja kar maloom karo jb vo gaey to pata chala k vo aurat bemar hai ap us k pas gaey us ki ayadat ki vo aurat sharminda hui bht aur usi vaqt musalman hogae har chez insan apney hath mai nai lai skta jo Allah Pak k uper tawakal karta hai Allah Pak usko apney sy qareeb sy qareeb tar kartey jatey hain koi mery maa baap ko gali daita hai to yeh uska zarf hai uski tarbiyat hai jawab mai agr mai bhi usko gali donga to mjh mai aur us mai koi farq nai baqi rahay ga han mai usko sirif piar sy aur Ikhlaq sy smjhaonga agr nai mana to phir apna aur uska mamla Allah Pak k uper choor donga aur Allah Pak khudhe us sy badla laingy mjhy lagta hai apney 9th metric mai islamiat nai parhi us mai afoo o darguzar nai parha agr parhi hoti to ap nai boltey esa
Aj tak kabhi esa nai hua k kisi ny mery sth bura kia hoo aur vo khud achay hal mai raha hoo us k sth us sy ziada bura hota hai abhi recently aik scene hua hai office mai to hamesha yad rakho k burai ka badla burai sy loogay to burai aur barhayge burai k badlay achay kar k daikho phir pata chaleyga k uska result kia nikalta hai Allah Pak pe bharosa karo phir nai vo tmhara sath dain to shikwa karna
Allah Pak farmatey hain k jab tu mjhse kuch mangta hai to mery pas tery liye 2 jawab hotey hain
1. Abhi nai.
2. Mai tjhy es sy behtar donga.
3. Yeh cheez tery liye munasib nai hai.
lekin na nai boltay hain lekin ham aur ap mayous hojatey hain aur mayousi kuffr hai
Please pehlay jakar Islam ka aur Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa S.A.W.W. ki serat parhoo ap phir apko apki baton k sarey jawab mil jaengay
Aur aik baat mai chalange sy bol raha hoon jisko jo sawal karn hai vo karey mery pas us k har sawal ka jawab hoga kou k mai apney zehen sy nai Allah Pak ki marzi sy jenay ki koshish karta hoon aur kisi k bi sawal ka jawab mai nai Allah Pak daitay hain.
Allah Pak Farmatey hain
“Kisi arbi ko ajmi per aur kisi kaley ko gorey pe koi fauqiyat hasil nai hai pas koi ilim vala aur ger ilim vala barabr nai hosktay”
Ab bhi agr hosh nai kia to dushman ham sb ko kha jaengy please aik dosray sy piar aur muhabat karna sekho aur apney sy baroon ki izzat akro bhaley vo naik hoo ya bad jo Allah Pak k pas chala geya uska mamla Allah Pak khud daikh laingay
And my request to admin k please esi chezain remove karain jis sy kisi ki dil azari hoo Shia galat hai ya sahe eska faisla ham nai kar sktay hamain apna mawazna karna chaey k ham sahe hain ya galat
Thanks
Asslamualykum bhai
ek baat mashuur h ap ne syd sunni b ho….
ek baar ek raaja ne kaha yai shia sunni ki debate krao…
to waha shia k ulma aajaty h or ek buzurg sunni b aty h wo apny juty(shoes) hath main uta kr agy bhadty h sb shia bolty dekho es ko tmiz b ni ks juty utay aa raha h….
buzurg raja se bolty h … yai ap S.A.W k time main b mazito se juty uta liya krty thy … to sary shia chilaty h hm to s.a.w(puh) k samney thy he ni 😀 😀 😀 😀
bhai in kuto ko koi mzhb ni dekh lo yai kummani ko to bht manty h us ki video dekho ksy jab mar gya naga ho gya puri public k samne ALLAH ne yahi naga kr diya or shiao k he pairo k nichy aa gya tha ……. daro kuda k azab se hramiyo ….. thoba kr lo s.a.w k gharany ki mukalfat krny walo …….
You know k mai 15 sal ka tha jb mai ny apni pehli job start ki thi mjhy sb boltey thay k yar koi aur kam nai mila magr mai unko sirif etna bol daita tha k jb hamarey nabi S.A.W.W. ny kisi kam mai chotai ya barai nai daikhi to mai kou daikho mai unki khak k barabr bhi nai hoo mgr koshish to kar skta hoo na aur kam koi etna chota nai tha k har koi kar skta hota apneey flat k samney aik whole sale ki kariyana k shop pe packing karta tha us k sth jo saman hota tha vo logon k gharon pe chorney jata tha saman kabi halka hota tha kabhi bhari even 40 to 50 kg ka bora tk chorney geya 4th 5th floor tk yeh sb batain bolney mai asan lagti hain lekin insan ki ego nai karney daiti hain aj mai aik company mai IT-Head hoon jo mai apni nai Allah Pak ki madad sy hoon to please smjhoo Allah Pak hamsy kia chahtey hain aur ham kin kamon mai lagey huey hain hyper honey sy kuch nai hota gussa shaitan dilata hai habil aur qabil k darmiyan bhi gusa he aya tha jabi aj qatal o garat horahay hain Allah Pak sy daro vo hamari kitni galatiyan maaf kar daity hain to kia ham us k uper bharosa nai kar sktay….????
Sikander Ahmad sahib,ap ki batain qabil e staiysh hain,liken aik bat ka jawab dain, ma 35 years hindus aur chirstions ma rah kar a raha hoon, hum nay kabi un ka muqadaseen ko bi borah nai kaha, jantay hain kuain? Is liy k wo apnay ap ko momneen nahi kaytay, loog apnay ap ko moman kaytay hain aur islam ka khalaf bat bi kartay hain, jin hazrat na islam k liy kam kia, islam dunia ka conay conay taq phalaia un ko galian aur jinhoon na kuch bi nahi kia un ko Anbia e Karam AS say bi ziada darja deina, to bahi sahab gusa to ata ha, hum kisi ko bi borah nahi kaytay, ager ap kay fulsafay per amal hota to Islam maybe sirf madina tak rahta,
K S Khan Bhai
i agree with you. main kazmi bhai say bhi request karta hoon k woo bhi dosroon k muqadaseen ka ahtaram karain. main app say maafi mangta hoon. or Shahvez Bhai aik baat yaad rakhain, larnay say masael barhain gay,kam nahi hoon gay. main bhi bohat lara hoon but realize kar gaya hoon k asay maslay hal nahi hotay. app bhi plz realize karny ki kosis karain. K S Bhai bhi kosis main hain or realize kar rahay hain. Bhai ham sab ko sambhalna ho ga. koi bhi had say na barhy kisi kay muqadseen k bary main. sab maslay hal ho jaen gay. jab tak ham khud mil kar rehnay ki kosis nahi karain gay, ham nahi mil k reh sakty.
KS bhai, sari batain aik taraf sary masael ki jar hamesha say Yazeed hi raha hai or yay phir say aag laganay aa gaya hai. abb iss ka kia karna hai. i hope k hamary ikhtalafat jo bhii hoon app bhi Yazeed ka sath tu kabhi nahi dena chahian gay.yay apki side lay kar app logon main ghusna chah raha hai. please iss fitny ko pehchanain. mje papers main 4 chutain theen tu main nay kaha h bhaion say hello hi hi kar loon.
Sab ko salam. missing Umer bhai presence
main jald wapis aa raha hoon phir ham sab mil kar unn point ko samny laen gay jo k similar hain na k woo jo k ikhtalaf ki waja hain. isis say masla hal ho jae ga
Safeer sahib, hamara aik hi narah ha, Allah say mango bus, tamam sahaba e karam qabil a ahtram hain, hum ap ka immams ko immam nahi mantay, lakin un k ahtram kartay hain, kisi sunni ka moo say kabi ap ko Ali ra, Fatima ra aur un ki ulad ko galat alfaz nahi sunay ho gay, hamari ki books ma ap ka muqadseen ki toheen nahi ki jati, lakin jis shia books ko dakho sahaba ki bohat ziada toheen ki jati hay, ap waqai kisi ki toheen nahi kartay, yay qabil e stayish ha, kazmi bi har bat pa sahaba ki gustakhi kartay hain, jis jis na Nibi e Pak saw ko hayat ma ziarat ki, kia hum ko zaiba data ha k hum un ki gustakhi karian, Bahi Umer ki absence bohat feel ho rahi ha, Allah un ko salamat rakhay, Islam ma sub baraber hain, ill ul taqwa, Quran e Majeed aik miracle ha, 1400 sal say ziada ho gay, aik zayer zubar ka firq na a saka, ab jo is Quran ko Tahreef Shuda manay wo ap ki nazer ma kon ho saktay hain? Hifz e Quran bi dunia ma aik miracle ha, aur yay aik quran kay correct hanay ka saboot ha,
jangli kutta haye haye
G bhai. main a k discuss karon ga. inshallah
safeer aza
eik aap hein aur dusra kazmi..yaqeen nahe hota yar kitna difference hay….
any ways i agree 100% aap ka role bohat acha jaraha hay… yhe masla iss jahil qaum ka hay jis ko aaj tak yeh he nahe pata kay humein larna kis se chaye…. eik sahaba ko naaaozobillha BHAGORA bolrha hay jasay wo 1400 saal baad aaj dubara paida hua ho. aap aisay logo ko apni safoo mein samjayein. aur kuch jahil humaray andar bhe hein jo shaan-e-sahaba mein HAZARAT ALI (RA) ke ghustaki kartay hein. samnay hotay tou moon tordeta dono kay. yeh koi tareeqa hay…..?
@ alishan kazmi
tumhari batein sun kar ghussa tou bohat aya magar mujhay ache tharan pata hay kay saray shia tumharay jaisay jahil nahe. mere gathering mein bhe bohat shia bhai hein jo sahaba ko acknowledge kartay hein aur humaray aqeeday ke bhe respect kartay hein. mein aun ka bhai hun aur wo mere. mein eik cideo link tumhein aisa bhejon ka kay tum apnay aap he zalil hijaogay jo saban tum nay SAHABA k lia istamal kere. tumhare apnay imam sahaba ko gali dene walo ko acha nahe samajtay. hum kabhe bhe HAZRAT ALI bibi FATIMA aale MUHAMMAD kay baray bura kesay sooch saktay hein? aur tum se mera eik sawal.
agar shaba itnay he buray thay tou tumhein mein batadun kay hazarat ali kay baito kay naam bhe abu bakar umar usman thay. kum se kum ause ka lihaz rakh lo jahil insan.
@alishan kazmi
tumhari baat ka jawab kay jo mulana ishaq ne kaha.
aap ko batadun kay wo ahle hadiths say taluq rakhtay hein. kaash tum aun ke dusree batein bhe bata dete agar tum nay apne chotay se dimag se samji hoti. aunho ne yeh bhe kaha kay shia sunni ulema jo khedein aun kay manay walay aun pe amal kreingain. ise lia phadda kyun? jo tumhara aqeda hay tum ausko mano aur jo humara aqeda hum aus ko.
na tum 1400 saal phele thay na hum
INSHALLAH qayamat mein zaroor pata lag jayega sub ko.
phadda aus se karao jo na shia hay na kafir aur har saal tumharay aur humaray NABI kay cartoon bana deta hay.
sorry ” jo na sunni hay na shia”
@k s khan bhai ap ne bilkul sahi famaaya hm kbi hmry ahly bait k liyai galt alfaz ni nikalty na inshallah qayamat tk nikaly gy ….. hm to ksm kuda paak ki mohbt rakhty he paak-e ahly bait se….
ek baat smj ni ati hzrat ali r.a k beto k naam per apny beto ka naam q ni rakhty tm jb k hzrat ali r.a ne umar r.a, usman r.a rakhy h jnb
@shia
Q. farz kro main tmhra haq cheen lu… tmhry bety ko mar du… (tmhryakedy k mutabik) kya tm jb b apny jo beta hoga uska naam shavez rakho gy …?
dil sy jwb dena hzrat ali or ahaly bait sy mohbt h to..?
Salam to all of u firstly safeer ap Jo differences khatam krne k leye Jo koshish kr rhe ho wo bht kabil e tareef ha ap is se andaza kro k hr koi ap ki tareef kr rha ha ap k leye ache comments pass kr rha ha sirf is waja se Jo muqadseen ki respect ki ap ne bt ki wohi is sare problm ka solution ha ab ap khud dekho k ap ab bi Shia hi ho ab bi sahaba ko ni mante ab bi immamt k kail ho ab apk views ne Sara senario change kr dia yehe mera point ha k ap ka aqeeda Jo bi ho bt koi dusra us se effect ni hona chahiae agr hr Shia ap jaise soch rakhe believe me HR Sunni bi us ko hmari trha appreciate kre ga sirf isi wja se ma allama jawad naqvi ko bht like krta hn baki Ali k leye hmara aqeeda to ye ha k Jo Ali se bugz rakhe ga ulte mu dozakh ma jae ga difference ye ha k hm immamt k kail ni un ki ye ahle bait ma se kisi ki gustaki ka hm soch bi ni sakte.K S khan ka role bi kabil e tareef ha baki sb bi masle ko positive le rhe hn which is a v gud sign and safeer all the very best for Ur exams.
Mujama al Fadail translate Munaqib shar e ashoob jild 2 page 376 , Ali ra na farmaia k jo yay na kahay k ma 4th khalifa hoon,us per Allah ki lanat, (yay shia book ha) kulfa e rashdeen ma koi ikhtalaf nahi tha, thanks umer for see u long time,
shia kafir nai ye baat sarasir ghalat hai hai k shia ko kafir kehte hai o b muslim hai
To all my muslim brothers and sisters, related with any sect.
Keep fighting with eachother, keep killing eachother, keep hating eachother, Mine and Your Allah and Rasoor (PBUH) must be so proud of us. Heaven is sure be reqarded to us. Bravo! we are truly potrayin ourselves as Best Humans and Moslems. Shia kafir, barailvi kafir, debonadi kafir in saab ka end kia hai kaun jeetay ga or kaun haaray ga? kia app logon k mutabiq kisi ko kafir keh daynay say woh haqeeqat main kafir hojata hai??? ya jisay Allah chahay nawazday or jis ka chahay imtihaan lay???
Meray bhaiyon gali dayna na tumhara shewa na tumharay Rasool (PBUH) ko pasand na kisi Sahaba R.A na kisi imam A.s nay is ki taleed farmai.
Yaad rakhon!!!! hum sab ka khula dushman shaitan hai or woh kaisay umation ko kaamyaab hota dekh sakta hai.
Shia, sunni ka jhagda unity and brotherhood of Muslims say bada hota too I am sure Ali A.S. and Umer R.A. nay khud hi solve kar lia hota or hum tak history kuch or hi phunchti.
Is waqt mamala kafir musalman ka nahi balkay saath main khaaday hokar batil ka muqabala karnay aur tarakii karnay ka hai.
Qayamat main Inshallah jab Huzoor PBUH say hauze Kausar per mulaqat hogi too app k saray sawaloon k inshallah sahih sahih jawab milay gay.
Baqi I am a man of little knowledge, have no intention to hurt anybodies feeling but it hurts when we as a muslim are victims of our own misery. Time is high to ignore the differences and sort out a common solution and focus on the big picture.
May God keep all you in peace and harmony.
Regards and best wishes.
A Better Kafir
KS KHAN AND OTHER JUST WAIT FOR 1 WEEK i WILL COME BACK…KS KHAN TUMHARI HAKIKAT KIYA HAI MUJHAI PATA HAI JUST FOR I WEEK I WILL COME BACK..
AUR DOBARA POUCH RAHA HUN K APNA SHAJRA NASAB BATA…
Alishan kazmi tum na mari haqeeqat ka dubara phocha ha, aur again shajra e nasab ka bi, ma safeer e azza aur umer bahi ki waja say chup tha, lakin ab mujay pata chal gia ka ka tumari haqeeqat kia ha, tum khuminai ki haram ki aur mutta ki padawar ho, kisi rundi bazar ki padawar ho, shajra shajra pukar rahay ho, jo jumayrat ko pada hota ha wo tomara kazmi bun jata ha, tum kisi nali ki padawar ho,,,,,,,,,kuain dhundak parh gai, (VERY SORRY MR,SAFEER E AZZA AND UMER MY HERO, IS ZUBAN KA USE KARNAY KA) lakin yay ha hi is qabel,
Asslamualykum brothers ek baat sch bolta hu phly main shiaao ki trafdari liya krta tha …. main sochta tha yai b muslim bhai h bhatak gy h… yai matam krty h Allah kud es ka swal kry ga…
magr jb mera ek frd h wo en k bech main Rahta h yai saly lodiya baaz mohramo main majlis krty h en ki lodiya ly baji..or yai nabi pak ki biwi per tohmad lgty h astagfir ullah kafir h yai bhai …. salao muttah ki olad
O, Noker e hussain to waqie mutta ki padawar ha, maray swal ka jwab nahi dia, teri jud ta lanat, o rundi ki ulad, us umer ra ko gali dayta ha jis ko Ali na bati di,
Lannti h yai bhai na enka koi deen na koi imman kafir kafir kafir bs or kafir…
en sy to lakh guna hindu achy h yai kam se kam wo kandany mohmmad yaranay mohmmad per tabra to ni krty ….
yai harm k bej h…. sorry agR kisi ko meri baat buri lgy magr yai wo bzat qom na yai ali r.a ki h na yai hussian r.a ki salo apni kitb se proof kr do hzrat ali ne unki kilafat per kbi aitraz kiya ho…
hzrat ali ne apny beto ka nam umar abubkar rakha
hzrat immam hussan ne apny bety ka naam abubkar rakha …
hzrat abubkar ne janb syyadna bibi fatima r.a ki namaze jannaze phdai h…… kafiro kalma phdo kuda ek h sirf ek h wo h Allah … akri nabi ek h sirf ek h mohmmadur rasooul ALLAH ….. ks khan yai qaymat main kya muuh le kr jay gy ap s.a.w k samne ALLAH K SAMney k sari zindgi zinha kiya muttah k naam per
sari zindgi gali di tabrah k nam per…
namaz ni phdi matam k nam per …..!
Umer my hero,Safeer Azza,Shaven Alam, aj Allah ka fazzal sa aik bathak ma aik shia jo ka bohat zoor o shoor say sahaba per lanat (naozo billa) bahjta tha, us ki asi halat banai k wo toba kar ka dubara deen islam ma dakhal ho gaia, swal sirf yay tha k Ali ra ki koi farman ya kitab ya khutbay ma Abu Baker ra, Umer ra, Usman ra ki gustakhi ki ho, even Ali ra na Maawia ra ka khalaf bi koi bat nahi ki, jab Ali ra (jin ko khuda k darja bi datay hain) na koi sahaba ki gustakhi nahi ki to Ali ra ka mannay walay sahaba ki isqader gustakhi kartay hain, in ka maqam kia ho ga, yay ap loog fasila kar saktay hain, LABBAIK ALLAH HUMA LABBAIK, YA ALLAH MADDED, Allah ka sawa kisi say bi mangna biddat ha, Shirk ha, ya ma nahi mara Qurran farmata ha,
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ALLAH tamam khulafae rashdeen pe rahmat keray aameen.
Umer bhai agar ap LUBP study kerain to ap pe wazih ho ga k ye Forum Ahl e sunnat k khilaf he totally. Molana Tariq Jameel sahib se lay k sab ulama e haq ki toheen aur mazaq urana apna farz samajhta he. kia zaroorat he ikhtalafi masael ko forum main lanay ki magar ye forum continuously aisa ker raha he. ap visit kerain jahan kahen shia killing ka chota bara ya kisi qism ka waqia paish ae ye foran post ker daitay hain. armi k bhi ye khilaf hain supreme court ki toheen kertay hain.
Ye aksar Shia genocide k name se posts kertay hain k shia ka qatle aam ho raha he. magar umer bhai aik baat he k bahut kaha jata he k shia ko kafir na kaho inko qatal na ker etc etc etc.. bahut acha. magar koe shia se ye kuon nhe kahta k tum sahaba ki toheen na kero. insult pe insult kero aur aman ki baat bhi.. kia aqal tasleem kerti he aaisi baat ko? ap u tube open ker k daikhain k shia zakir kis kis tarah sahaba ka mazaq ura rahay hain. koe kahta he k Imam Abu huraira (R.A) ko to naooz billah apnay baap ka pta nhe tha. main beyan nhe ker sakta k ye log kitna bakwas kertay hain sahaba ko. phir bhi kaha jae k aman aman aman to phir ………
Salam to all yes I do agree with u Ahmed bro asl ma log problem ki shidat ko dekh rhe hn problm ki wja ko ni na problm k solution ko bemari ko dekh rhe hn bemari ki waja or ilaj ko ni aag ki shidat ko dekh rhe hn aag lgne ki wja or us pe qabu pane ko ni dekh rhe reaction ko dekh rhe hn action ko ni.ab Zara thori common sense use ki jae jis mulk ma aik bht bri majority k sahaba ko kafir murtid likha jae kutte k gale ma nam likh k dale Jain public toilet ma intihai chep comments likhe Jain pairo k neeche us k nam likh k social media pe upload keye Jain jaha literature ma ye likha jae k in k nam sharmgaho pe likhne chahiaen jaha umhat ul momnineen k bare ma aise comments likhe Jain Jin ko bolte hoe zuban larzne lagti ha waha peace ki bt krna mere khayal ma aik bht bra mazak lgta ha to be very honest ye reaction agr is pasmanzar ma dekha jae to bht km ha.hn jis ne aik insan ko qatal Kia us ne puri insaniat ko qatl Kia bt hmara sb se bra issue illiteracy ha Jo k HR burai ki root hoti ha yaha log aik 100 rupee ki khatir qatal kr dete hn illiterate zehno ma Jo chahe bhr do us mulq ma mazhab jaise intihai sensitive issue ko le k kisi ksm k reaction ko bi expect Kia jA skta ha.in 90s nawaz sharif k era ma Azam Tariq ne namoos e sahaba bill present Kia assembly ma bt usko ye kh k reject kr dia gaya k is se mazhabi munafrt bre gi agr wo bill pass ho jata to aj halt mukhtlif hoti nawaz sharif ne moulana Abdul sattar niazi k under committe bnai his ne bi is ka solution yehi dia bt usko bi ignore kr dia Gaya recently sahibzada fazal Karim ne bi namoss e sahaba ahle bait or um ul momneen k law ki recommendation di hn or yehi is masle ka pehla or akhri Hal ha aj se aik month bd aik sal bd 10 sal bd govment ne krna yehi ha to aaj hi kyo ni Abi is kam k leye or ktni qurbanio ki zarort ha????sawal ye ha k akhir wo kn si powers hn Jo is law ko pass ni hone deti ye wohi log hn Jo yaha peace ni chahte??? Jb Shia bi peace chahta ha Sunni bi to ye bill pass kyo ni ho sakta???? This is my question to all Shias n Sunnis
Umer bhai ap LUBP ki shrartain to daikhain k ye kis tarah ulamae ahle sunnat ki toheen ker raha he. Ap visit kerain iski posts aur khabasat daikhain. main apko link bhe send ker doon ga waisay lubp k. ooper kisi nay baat ki k shia ko court main challeneg kuon nhe kia jata to baat ye he k shia manazra k lye tayar hi nhe hotay bhag jatay hain. Sajjad ali shah case reopen hona chahye. sajjad ali sha k dour main try ki gae the namoos e sahaba ak lye and ganda literature jo sahaba k khilaf tha k roknay k lye. ooper ye baat bhi ki gae k sunni shia ho jatay hain. main nay kae shia ko sunni bantay daikha he. Allama Ali Sher hideri, Kefayat husain, and Sohail Abbas Naqvi etc. Sohail Abbas Naqvi to ahle sunnat main ab speeches bhi kerta he. allama Baqir bhi sunni hoe. Ap nay kitna narm behaviour rakha is k bawajood ap nay Ali Shan ka behaviour daikha kaisa toheen ameez tha. Umer bhai ap jo marzi ker lain shia hazrat nhe manain gay.
Umer sahib ap k swal ka jawab yay ha k sahaba, um al mominat, ahl bait ki gustakhi ka bill kabi pass nahi ho ga, bureaucracy yay honay nahi da gee, aur ap jantay hain k every dept ka head koon ha, aur yay jan booj kar kia ja raha ha, ap yaqeen karian ka India pakistan ka itna dushman nahi jitna Iran ha, KAZMI tum na dobara wohi shajra aur abaoo ajdad ka ziker kia ha, to tum ko barah naz ha na k tum kazam ki ulad ma sa ho, is tara ma bi kay sucta hoon k ma Musa as ki ulad ma sa hoon, tum dawa kartay ho all bait honay ka, to is sorat ma tum Abu Jahal, Abu Lahab ki bi ulad ho, aur jis par Allah na Qurran Majeed ma lanat bahji ha, aur tumary liay to bohat fakher ki bat ha k tum Abu Jahal aur Abi Lahab ki ulad ho, wo bi deen e islam ko khatam karnay ka liay din rat aik kartay rahay aur tum bi wohi kam kar rahay ho, charas ka soota laga kar ya ali mudded boltay ho, is ma Ali ra ki gustakhi ha, baqi tum na maray khoon ko gali di, lakin aik bat bhool gia k jis rundi bazar ma haram aur mutta ka bacha hota ha, us ko kazmi ka laqab datay hain, ab tum check kar layna k tum koon sa bazar ki padawar ho, O khabees kay bachay yahoodion na apnay abaoo ajdad par fakher kia tha wo zaleel huway,ab tum zaleel ho rahay ho, Khutba tul Wida ma Nabi e Pak saw na farmaya, kisi arbi ko kisi ajmi par fazeelat hasal nahi ha, ill al taqwa, islam ma har wo insan jis na (LA ILA HA IL LALA MOHAMMED DUR RASOOL LAL LA)parah lia wo muslman ha, kisi ma koi tafteek nahi, hamary islam ko hiduism ka sath mat joorho, jis ma zat pat ka concept ha,
Ahmed bhai
This is just for your information that i am also a shia. but mere bhai logo agar koi glat zaban istemal kar bhi raha hai tu app log q galt zaban istemel kar rahy ho. bhaio nafrat ko just piar say khatam kia ja sakta hai or main samajhta hoon k yehi hamary nabi (SAWW) ki taleem hai. Nabi Sab ko maaf karty rahy or ham larty ja rahay hai. Bhaio kehny ko sab kuch na kuch keh sakty hain. agar ham books otha k dekhain kisi bhi maslak ki tu hamain asi batain milain gi jo qabil e qabool na hon gi. bhaio 1400 sal guzar chukay hain. Allah nay just quran ki hifazat ka zimma lia hai or kisi kitab ka nahi. bhaio jo log kehty hain na k shia qyran main tehreef k qael hain wo galt baat hai. sab ki books main tehreef ki gai hai. Shio ki books main bhi tehreef hao hai or sunnio ki books main bhi. bhaio Quran aik hai, nabi aik hai tu ham q lar lar k pagal hoay ja rahy hain. bhaio zara ghoor say or aqal say kam lo. ham dosron k hathon ki katputli bany haoy hain. bhaio iss nafrat ko khatam karo or iss forum ko shia sunni fisad ki bajaey shia sunni itehad ka markaz bana ho. i hope k app sab iss baat ko samjhain gay. jo nafrat ki baat kar raha hai oss ko tawaja na doo. itehaad ki batain karo orr un ko discuss karo. sab ko Nabi (SAWW) ki ummat honay ka wasta hai.
Dear safeer yes everyone of us want peace bt as I said yesterday k hmara sb se bra problm illiteracy ha. Religion aik bht sensitive issue ha jis pe koi bi compromise ni krta Abi ye bt mane kl hi kehi aj Lahore ma apko prof bi mil Gaya ab btao is mulk ma peace kaise possible ha ab hmari aql ka andaza kr lo aik admi ki galti ki saza hm ne Lahore ma puri Christian community ko de di ye to hal ha isi wja se ma khta hn k aik law hi hmare problm ko durable solution ha. Dear KS khan is law ko oppose wohi log kr rhe hn Jo yaha peace ni chahte Jo chahte hn log apas ma lrte rhe.Dear Ahmed yes is form ka nam LUBP ni LUDP hona chahiae tha let us destruct Pakistan ye problm ko brha rhe hn deobandi militants or PTA ni Kia Kia in k articles to lgta ha sectarian war phelane k leye hn control krne k leye ni they should look into what they r doing.jb intention hi bias ho to ap problems ko khak solve kro ge.
Safeer e Azza, i agreed with u, ager tamam shia app jasay ho jaein to masla hal ho sakta ha, starting ma app aur muj ma bohat war hoi, lakin waqt ka sath app ma aur muj ma fark aaya, app na sahaba e karam ki ezat ki, i respect u, app na Qurran ko aik mana, i respect u, mayra bi sirf yahi paygam ha, aik Allah, aik Rasool saw, aik kitab Qurran e Majeed,,,,,,,,yar ager hum Abu Baker ra, Umer ra, Usman ra, ko manain aur Ali ra ko na manain to hum sa barah munafiq koi nahi ha, Ayshaha ra ko manain aur Hassan ra,Hussain ra ko na manain to hum sa barah munafiq koi nahi, aur jo in sub ko na manay wo is dunia k sub say barah munafiq ha, Umer i agreed with u what u said,
sab kahan chaly gae hain
Yar Safeer waqie tamam loog lapata hain, ap aur maray alawa, Umer my hero ka bagair to bay ronki ha,
walykum asslam umar…
Asslamualykum all of u …
k.s khan apny thk bola h …..Hum ko mohbt h ahly bait se …… yaha etni bdi badi baat hvi gali galoch tak hvi h magr yaha 165 comment ho chuky h mera 166 wa cmmt h ap ek sunni ka comment bta do jis ne ahly bait ki behurmti ki h ksm kuda ki sunniyat naam h ahly bait ki mohbt ka ……… k.s khan yai kbi addmit ni kry gy apna mazhb sb ko pyra hota h magr ek baat h jis ko ALLAH hidayt de us per jannat wajib ap ne btaya mashallah ek bhai ne kalma phda …
ALLAHMDULILAH MAIN ahly sunnat wal jammat se hu…
main india se hu … ap ko ek wakiya btata hu abi kuch din phaly ek buzurg takribn 65sal ki age thi un ki… unko kalma tak phdna ni ata tha to un ko kalma btaya gya unhony kalma phda … usi din unki seny main dard hua pass ki mazit main jammat aai hvi thi waha k sathi bi unko dekhny aa gy fir unko doct. k lay jaya gya or unsy bola ap kalma phdty rhy esi halt main unka intaqal ho gya ….
to bhai ALLAH jis ko chay hidayt de
Hamra kam h unko sahi rah dikhna bs ab wo amal kry ya na kary wo unka or ALLAH ka masla h…… hm ne apna farz ada kiya han main admit krta hu mainy gali di galt kiya ….
lekin ksm kuda ki mainy bht brdsht kiya magr jb bilkul had ho gai tb ….k.s khan ALLAH MAaf kry hmney galt lagug use ki…. magr kya kry bardsht ki had hoti h…
khair ek baat h yai admit kry na kry en ki marzi kuda ne kya 2 azmat di h hmry sahaba ko…
ary jahilo etni to shrm kro tm bhok kis ko rhy ho …amma aysha r.a ko …
us usman r.a ko jo kuda ki rah main apna sb kuch luta diya 18 martba jannat kridi h hzrat usman r.a ne….
17 Martba jo farmaya usman r.a ne wo jebrail quran main ayat le kr aa gya …. or tm shak krty ho unk muslim hone per….
mainj ko rona or tm logo per tras ata h jb kya hoga tmhri jhoti rivayat sbit hogi wo ibne sabha lanti ……
ALLAH k rasooul ne frmaya ek martba mazit main dakil huai ap k 7 hzrat abubkar r.a or hzrat umar r.a dakil hvy ap ne un ka hath pakda farmaya jb qayamat ka din hoga aisy he hm 7 hogy …
ary jin hzrat ko hzrat ali r.a ne kbi glt ni bola ap log ksy bol skty ho
aao dekhau tmko shiao mohbt or ahtram hzrat umar r.a ka ahly bait e pakk se zara 2 min k liyai apna bguz nikal kr sunna…
EK martba hzrat hussian R.a or hzrat abdullah r.a ibne umar 7 main kel rhy thy bachy thy aps main lad pady or hzrat hussian ne farmaya tmhray aba mery baba k glum h …. hzrat abdullah roty 2 hzrat umar r.a k pass gy or unko btaya ap apny bety ko 7 le kr hzrat hussian r.a k pass gy un ko dekh kr hussain dar gy hzrat umar r.a ne farmaya tm ne bola h main tmhry aba ka gulam hu unhany han main jwb diya ap ne farmay hussian r.a ne thk bola h apney frmaya k yai baat likh kr mujy de do…. yai h wo pyr or izzat yai wakiya bukhari main h
Qurban jaoon Shaven Alam ap per, dil khosh kar dia, yay bilkol sucha waqia ha, Ibn e Sabah LA ka muzhab pay chalnay walo, Allah ka deen par chalo, sub ki respect karo, jub Ali ra na kisi ki mukhalfat nahi ki aur un ka pechay namaz parhtay rahay, to pher in loogoon ko kia taqleef ha, again Umer where r u
Shukriya n jazak ALLAH ks khAn
Syed Gazi Hussain Rizvi, ap na barhi achi bat ki ha, ager ap loog sahaba e karam ki ezit karna start karian, ham ap ko kafir nahi pokarain ga, hum kisi bi ahl al bayit ko lazam RA boltay hain aur likhtay hain, lakin ap loog sirf nam likhtay hain aur gustakhi bi kartay hain, NokareHussain sahaba ki kis tarah gustakhi karta ha, wo ap na dakha ha, ma ap sub sa aik swal karna chahta hoon, ager Abu Baker ra galat thay to un ki bait kuain ki, Umer ra galat thy to un ki bait kuain ki, Usman galat thay to un ki bait kuain ki, un ki Immamat ma namaz kuain ada ki, un kay wazeer and masheer kuain banay, un kay qazi kuain banay, even un ka jallad bi babay, aur tankhwa bi latay rahay, Ali ra na kabi bi koi complain daraj nahi karwai, apni bati Um Kalsoom ra Umer ra ka nikah ma di, ap loog har waqt sirf Fatima ra ka nam latay ho, Zaynab ra, Ruqia ra, Um Kalsoom ra, kay nam ap logoon ki zuban say nahi nikaltay, kia yay sharam ki bat nahi, in pak batioon ka saboot ma ap ki apni shia books sa da sacta hoon, ager koi demand karay, Qurran ma bar bar ziker ha k mudded sirf aur sirf Allah sa talab kar saktay ho, kisi sa mudded mangna shirk ha, ap loog Ya Ali mudded, Ali mushkal kusha, kia yay shirk nahi, kabi kisi na Ya Muhammed saw mudded pukara ha, nahi, ager hum Nabi E Pak saw jin ka liay yay dunia babi, un ko mudded ka liay nahi pukar saktay to dosray ki ko kuain, Allah ka wastay yay shirk khatam karo, kisi ko borah na kaho, sub ka muqadaseen ka ahtram karo, pher koi kisi ko kafir nahi kahay ga, ager ham Ayshah ra ki ezzat kartay hain to Fatima ra ka bi ahtram kartay hain, lakin ap loog un ki gustakhi kartay hain, jin ka liay sorat a noor nazil hoi, is ka mutlab ha ka Qurran ki gustakhi, aur Qurran ki gustakhi karnay wala koon hota ha, yay ap khud bata dain, Abu Baker ra ka ziker qurran ma ha Ur ap loog un ki gustakhi kartay hain, Allah ka liay fikr karo, Qurran ko mano, yay aik moojza ha k Qurran 1400 sal say aylan kar raha ha k ,,,MA NAY YAY KITAB UTARI AUR MA HI IS KA MAHAFIZ HOON,,,,,Allah ka farman qurran ma,,,,,ab bi hoosh ka nakhun lo, toba karo aur Islam ki sarbulandi ka liay kam karo, Qurran ka aik aur moojza dakho sirf 6 sal ka bacha qurran hafiz ha,
Asslamualykum …ks khan mashallah mery bhai ALLAH slamat rakhy ap ko jazk ALLAH bht acha kam kr rhy ho….
yaha jitny shia h ans do ab ks khan ka k bait q ki hzrat ali razitallah anhu ne kalifa e rashiden ki ..un k pechy namaz q phdi un k ammer q bny …..?
Ni de skty ap jwb
khair chota sa swal matam krty hvy jo mary ga wo jannati h …?.?
Salam to all of u today I would like to tell u why Umer (r.a)is my hero.let’s us look what non Muslims say about Umer ibn al Khatab according to Jews agr aik Umer or hota to Islam aj dunia ka sb se bra religion hota Jerusalem ko conquer krne k bd waha k Christians or Jews ko apni religion ki practice ki mukamil azadi di. Without any fear or threat ab Jo Kafiro k leye itna Narm dil ho wo muslmano k leye ktna Narm dil ho ga.Michael hart apni book 100 greatest men of the world ma Umer khatab ko second half ma 2nd number pe rakhte ha aik Jew 100 greatest men ma Umer khatab ko shamil kr k uski azmat ka iqrar kr rha ha aik Christian author Umer ko Gretest men ma 3rd no pe rakhta ha.aik German Christian woman ne Germany ma Umer khatab k leye mukhtlif language ma likhi gae 7000 se ziada books library ma collect ki hn she says I’m a Christian bt my hero is Umer aik French scholar ne us se pucha k tm Umer ko apna hero kyo khti ho she replied aik dafa aik shanks Umer k darbar ma aya khne lga k Egypt k governor or us k bete ne mjhay bht mara ha Umer ne order dia k governor or us k bete ko arrest kr k mugrim ki trha hazir kro jb hazier Kia to Umer ne governor se kha k tm se apni awan ko kb se gulam bna lia jb k in ki maa ne inko azad paida Kia. German woman said k dunia k kisi author writer scholar ne aj tak insano ki azadi k leye is se achi bt ni ki. Gandi ne 1937 ma congress k ministers ko simplicity k leye kha k ma tm ko ram or krishn ki missal ni de sakta bec wo historical personalities ni hn bt majborn ma tmko Abu bakr or Umer ki misal deta hn itni bri saltnat k haqim hone k bawojood unho ne faqeerana zindgi guzari.ab btao jis Umer (r.a)ko non Muslim hero khte hn ma muslman ho k Umer (r.a)ko hero kyo na mano.
Walykum asslam umar my hero….
brother ur correct …. yai he to h jo apni zindagi guzar gy hmry liyai roll modal bn k….
aj mery chacha ne ek kisa btaya dekh lo faisla ap ka…
jb hzrat umar r.a ameer ul muuminen thy tb ka waqiya h..
ek dafa hzrat umar r.a qutba krny k liyai khaday huy to ek muslim ne ap ki chaadar pkad li or farmay ameer apny 2 chadar odi h …. or hmry pass ek h… to ap ne farmaya es ka ans mera beta yani hzrat abdullah r.a degy ….
to hzrat abdullah ne farmaya jab maly ganimat se jo mujy chadar mili wo mainy apny walid ko hadiya kr di …..subhanallah
ek wakiya or h
ek martaba hzrat abdullah r.a ne apny abba yani hzrat umar r.a ki dawat kri
ap k samney dastarkhan bechaya gya ap ne farmaya yai to 2 salan h….ek gosht or dusra ghee main ni khauga
hzrat abdullah ne frmaya darasal yai 2 dinr main jo gosht ata maine 1 dinar main kch halka gosht liya or 1 dinar main ghe liya to es trha 2dinar main yai 2 salan h …. to ap ne khana na khaya ap ne kbi 1 bar main 2 salan jamma na kiya yai h hmra ammer….. 🙂
Well come Umer my hero, ap ka anay sa light on ho gai, Shaven Alam ap na bohat khobsorat waqiaat batayay hain, Allah ap ko khuch rakhay, this is my challenge that (ager Umer ra na hotay hum aj hindo hotay) aik new bat suno, Balgiam jo k aik christian country ha, un ka constitution ma likha ha (WE ARE FOLLOW THE UMER’s LOWS) UN ka constitution ma 15% articals Umer ra ki islahat ma sa lee hoi hain, chalo shia loog to Umer ra ka dushman hain, kyun k Umer ra na Iran ki ient say ient baja di, un ki hazaroon sal porani Majoosi Shahanshahiat ko barbad kar dia, Iran isi liay Umer ra ka khalaf ha, yay to bat hoi shia ki, lakin hum nam nihad sunni loog bi Umer ra ka liay 5% kam na kar sakay, pakistan ma jan booj kar Ali ra ka parchar kia jata ha (i m not against Ali ra) songs, qawalion ma ap sun saktay hain, dama dam must kalander, ali da pahla number, panjtan pak da sadqay, ya Ali mudded, Ali mushkal kusha, aik shia ager qatal ho jata ha(ma qatal ka khalaf hoon) to shia men and women apnay heads par * LABBAIK YA HUSSAIN * likh kar all pakistan media ma 24 hours dekha dekha kar sada loo muslams ko wargalaia jata ha, yad rakain (YA ALLAH MUDDED KA ALAWA SUB SHIRK HA)
Brother ks khan good job ap ki age kya h main kch btana chta hu jsy apny baat ki zahir h ap muj sy bday h age main main 23yr ka hu ALLAHMDULILAH
ap ko eik baat btata hu shia sunni ni h ….
main face book per hu mera ek frd h vicky singh ab wo muslim h usney naam rakha h javed milad … he convert his religion now he is our Muslim brother since one yr…
us ne muj se ek swal kiya ksm kuda ki mujy us ko ans dety hvy shrm b aai or rona be halaki k ans de diya us ka
swal kch aisy tha…
Bhai hm muslim h ?
I said yes ALlahmdulilah..
brother hum eik q ni h es ka fayda gair muslim utaaty h..?
yai shia kon h yai sunni kon h yai wahabi kon h yai brelvi kon h yai ahly haddies kon h…??
hm to muslim h eik hony chyai…
ksm sy mujy jwb dety dukh b hua apni qom per hum itny begairt ho gy k nabi ka rasta chod diya nabi ki sunnat chod di ……sahaba ikram ki izzat nai krty… baat shia sunni ki ni hmri qom ki h…
hm to us ummat k log h jin ko dekh kr log imman le aay … wo sahaba jinohny apni jaan di apna qoon bhaya deen k liyai wo sahaba eikram ka sabut dena pdta h k wo muslim thy …
ALLAH K WASTY tmhry agy hath jodta hu sahaba se mohbt kro chlo tmhra dil main bugz h to mohbt na sahi magr unk kilaf glt baat mt kro
bhai ap ko kissa pta h abu jehal ka jab uski namaz e janaza nai phdai ap s.a.w (pbuh)
Salam to KS khan n Shavez Alam ma aik qisa share kr rha hn phle bi kr chuka hn bt for Shavez.langer lga hoa tha sb us k laziz khane se mehzoz ho rhe thae aik shaks aya langer taqseem krne wale se kha mjhay 2admio ka langer do langer dene wale ne kha sb aik aik admi ka le rhe hn tm 2 ka kyo mang rhe ho wo shaks khne lga aik apne leye or dusra us maskeen bazurg k leye Jo door betha phate purane kapro ma sukhi roti pani ma bhigo k kha rha ha langer taqseem krne wale ki ankho ma ansu aa gae or wo us shaks se khne lga Bhai Jo tm langer kha rhe ho wo usi bazurg ki trf se ha wo koi or ni Ameer ul momneen Abu bakr (r.a) hn.isi leye to ma khta hn k agr aise modest log momin ni to dunia ma koi bi momin ni .isi trha jb Umer ra shaheed hoe to door daraz k ilaqe ma aik shepherd chrawaha dorta hoa aya or logo se khne lga k logo Umer ra ab is dunia ma ni hn log khne lge tm itne door rhte ho tmko kaise PTA khne lga k ma roz apni bakrio ko chrata tha aj tk kisi darinde ki jurt ni hoe k mere bakrio ko kush khe bt aj aik Woolf bharia mere aik bakri ka bacha Utha k le gaya uski jurat se ma ne Jan lia k aj Umer is dunia ma ni hn ab Jin k adal k samne janwar bi kanpte thae agr wo momin ni to dunia ma koi bi momin ni. KS khan Shavez Ahmed doing v good.
Walykum asslam
jazak allah mera wo uper ka cmmt adhura rh gya nxt tym wo kissa pura kruga ….us main shaan e farooqi nazar aai gi jb b koi parday main gair mehram dekhta hu mujy rutba e farooqi r.a per fkar mehsus hota h ….. 🙂
Shavez ap na apni age 23 years bata di, to is sorat ma ap maray batay Hassan ki age ka hain, ab ap bi maray batay ho, Allah ap ko lumbi umer da, Ameen, ma aik aur bat not karain, mari mother ka nam Fatima tha (Allah un ki magfarat karay) batoon ka nam Hassan, Ali, Usman, bation ka nam, Ayshah, Zainab ha, ma un shia logoon sa aik swal karta hoon, khas kar Kazmi rafdi say, hum loog sub ka ahtram kartay hain, tum logoon ka dil ma bugiz ha, Ameer Maawia ra na islami haqoomat 65 lakh muraba mile tak qaeim ki, Hassan ra na un ki bait ki, maray aik aur swal ka jawab do, Ali ra na apnay dor a kalafat ma kitni zameen islamic haqoomat ma shahmal ki, Hassan ra ni kitni ki, Hussain ra na kitni ki,Hazrat Zain ul Abdeen na kiti ki, Hazrat Jafir,Hazrat Sadiq, Hazrat Mohammed, Hazrat Raza, Hazrat Musa Kazim, Hazrat Taqi, Hazrat Naqi, na kitni ki, ham in tamam hazrat ka ahtram kartay hain, lakin swal ha ka in logo na islam ki sarhadoon ko barhanay ma kia kirdar ada kia, yay hamaray kulfa e rashdeen aur sahaba e karam thay jo islamic borders ko Iran, Egpt, Sham, Marakish, Iraq, Africa, Afganistan, Capras aur na janay koon koon sa mulkoon tak la gaey,,,,,,,,,,,,,aik dafa Umer ra ko aik case ma court ma bulaia gaia, ap jab adalat ma enter huway to Qazi un ka ahtram ma kharah(stand up) ho gaia, to Umer ra na qazi ko farmaia k tum na maray ahtram ma kharah ho insaf kia khak karo ga, ya ha insaf ka bol bala, isi liay to hamary piaray Nabi saw na un ko FAROOQ ka laqb dia, jis na apnay batay ko moot ki saza sunwa di, ha koi un jasa insaf karnay wala, Usman ra ka qatleen Midina ma dandanaty phartay thay, Mohammed Bin Abi Baker, Malak Bin Ashtar, Abdul Rahman Bin Adees, Kanana Bon Basher, Umer Bin Hamaq, Hakim Bin Jabla, Sudan Bin Sarhan, Yasar Bin Ayyad, Aswad Tajeebi, Gafqi Bin Harb, Umaeer Bin Dhabi, Abn Nabah, ya sub qatleen e Usman thay, aur yahi loog bad ma Ali ra ki army ma high post par fayez huway, in sub ko bad ma Ameer Maawia ra na kutay ki mot mara, aur aik ko Hajaj Bin Yousif na qatal kia, jo bi qatal Usman ra ka qatal ma shahmal tha Allah Subhan Wa Taala na dunia ma un ko saza da di, baqi inshah Allah qiamat kaa roz milay gi, Mohammed Bin Abi Baker ko donkey ki skin ma band kar aag lagai gai, is sa ziada zaleel mot kia ho gi, damad Rasool saw ka qatloon ka yayhi injam hona chahiay,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Umer, Shaven, Ahmad , Safeer, thanks for sporting,
Asslamualykum ks khan sahab ap mery walid k umar k aj se ap ko chacha bulauga ap ko itraz to ni h na….
ap ne jo baat boli h thk boli h magr hm en zalil logo k liya apny liyai jahamn tyr ni kry gy main en sy tb tak debate krta hu jb tk yai apni zabn se gandgi bhar na nikaly yani (gali ) jo en ka mzhab h ….
hum sunni chahy kitna b chay yai ni sudharny waly yai tb sudhry gy jb puri duniya main islamic rule aa jay gy wo hoga issa A.S k dor main …
bhai yai un pakk e ahly bait ki aadh lety h … jo hmry liyai mukadas h ….mujy ek kisa en ko hzrat ali r.a ne h kafir krar de rahkha h ….
hzrat ali r.a ne farmay 2 log islam se btak ky gy ek mery bugz main
2ry meri had se zada mohbt main ….
ab kud he faisla kry
ks khan shab. ….. main jitny be shia se puchta hu ans ni dety bhag jaty ya baat gol kr jaty h
main fir swal dohrata hu sb shiao se swal h kya wo jannati h jo matam krty huvy mary …?
Shavez ap mujay Chacha bol saktay hain, i happy, baqi ma in ko haqeekat bata raha hoon, in logoon na ahl al bait sirf 4 hazrat ko bana dia ha, jo ka galat ha, ahl al bait ma Hazoor saw ka gar walay maqsood hain, Um al Muminat sub sa awal, dosri bat, yay log Fatima ra ko only Hazoor saw ki bati mantay hain, Qurran ma ha, YA NISA A KUM WA BINATO KUM AL NABI saw,,,ab binato kum arabic translation ka mutabic more than 2 daughters hota ha, is lia yay qurran ki gustakhi kar rahay hain, ager sirf Fatima ra aik bati hoti to Qurran ma, BINTAK, ata, LANAT ALLAH AL KAZIBEEN,,,,,,
Mashallah jiyo chacha ks khan
all respected members aik dosry ko q galt sabit karny pay tulay hoay hain app sab. plz muhabbat bantain nafrat nahi. meri help karain. mery maqsad pay pani na pharain. jo jis jis ko manta hai manta rhay. dosry ko na charay. bhaio app ko kis nay keh dia k jab khulfa e rashdeen ki khilafat ka elan hoa tha tu sab ashab nay bait ki thi. bhaio read history jis jis ko shoq hai but authentic history parhain. aik baat batata hon app sab ko jab Ali(AS) ki khilafat ka elan hoa tha tu hazrat Umer k son nay jin ka naam Abdullah bin Umer tha unhon nay Ali (AS) ki khilafat ko man’ny say inkar kia tha. unhon nay bait nahi ki thi tu kia wo kafir ho gaey thay, nahi bilkul nahi. tu bhaio aik dosry ko kafir kehnay walay ham koi nahi hoty. plz be religious but not extremist. it is my humble request to all.
Safeer welcom, ap wahid aik good shia hain, jo bat galat kartay hain lakin adab ka dairay ma, ap ki yay bat achi lagti ha, ap na kaha k sub na bait nahi ki, ok ma tasleem karta hoon, wo loog fingers pa ginay ja saktay hain, lakin only for some days, ab aik hawala / Al Jama Al Kafi, Kitab Al Rodha, Immam Jafer ka arshad,,,,Mohammed saw ki wafat ka bad sub loog ARTAD (kufir) ma chalay gaiy sirf 3 ashkhas ka, Maqdad bin Aswad ra, Abu Zar Gafari ra, aur Suliman Farsi ra, ab ap batian yay shia ki muqadas treen kitab ha,(is ma aik aur swal ha ka sirf 3 sahaba, baqi ahl e bait kidar gaiy aur wo kis maqam par thay) ap na kaha ka Abdullah bin Umer na Ali ra ki bait nahi ki, janab lakhoo logoon na nahi ki thi, aur ap jantay hain k Usman ra ka safakana qatal huwa tha, aur qatal koon thay(see my comment) aur Ali ra ka farman / Nahaj Al Balaga, page 507, HUM YAMLIKONANA WA LA NAMLIKOHUM,,,,,,means ka qatal hamary malik banay huway hain hum un ka malik nahi hain,,,,,,safeer sahib ma na yay dono hawaly ap ki books sa diay hain, safeer sahib ap kaytay hain ka nafratian ka khatma hona chahiay to is ka aik hi hal ha, purani sub batoon par MITI PAOO aur Aik Allah, Rasool saw, aik kitab Qurran pa amal karo, arbi sekho ta k Qurran ko samaj sako, Inshah allah sub dheek ho jaay ga, safeer sahib ملايكه(angel) انبيا(nabi) ka darja jab sahaba e karam say kam kar dia jaay to Allah bi naraz hota ha aur muslims bi (if u want i will give u the reference from your shia books)
Asslamualykum to all
saffer ap boly to magr afsos h ap ko deen e Islam k bary main he pta ni h……
ap ne jaug e jabbal suni hogi na …… yai jaug hzrat aysha r.a or hzrat ali r.a k bech q hvi h ap ko yai ptaa h ?
Ya yai jag hzrat maviya r.a or hzrat ali murtaza r.a k bech hvi h … thakik kro tm tb btana
aik dosry py kufr k fatwy lgany walo…kisi aik hadees sy ap S.A.W. ka ya sahaba karam R.A. ka shia ya sunni hona sabit krdo…apni language dekho ap log or jin ko defend kr rhy ho aik dosry k samny un k frmoodat mae sy aise language dkha do…mery samny ye hadees hai k Allah ke rassi ko mazboti sy thamy rkho or tafarqy mae mut pro… tm log kyn aik dosry ka gala kat rhy ho… apny mamoli ikhtlafat ke wja sy sari dunya k sath sath tm log khud bhi apny dushmun bny hoye ho…wake up guys tm logo ko aapis mae larany wala kam az kam tmhara koi khair khwah nhi ho skta
bhai shahvez jang e jamal hazrat ayesha or hazrat ali k beech main hoi thi. or han jamal ka matlab oontni hai. or kuch bhai.
KS bhai main bhi tu kab say yehi keh raha hoon k piar banto nafrateen khatam karo or kuch nahi. jahan tak hawalaon ka taluq hai tu hawalay har book say diay ja sakty hain. main bhi bohat sary day sakta hoon hawalay. but i want peace. i want love in our society. thats it. or iss sab ki aik bari yay bhi hai k ham log iss nafrat ki waja say bohat mutasir ho rahy hain or mian khas tor par bohat he buri tarha say mutasir hoa hoon or ho raha hoon or pata nahi kab tak hon ga. Bas Allah say yehi iltija hai k wo meri aazmaeshon ko khatam kar day.Ameen
Safeer sahib, ap na jamal ka mutlab oontni likha ha, lakin wo oont hota ha, oontni ko arabi ma NAQA kaytay hain, ma bi yahi chahta hoon, kisi bi sahaba ko borah mut kaho, kisi ahl e bait (sirf 4 nahi sub ahl al bait) ko burah mut kaho, khud bakhud nafratain mit jayien gi, ab jub sahaba ki gustakhi itni bayhahyaie sa ho gi to ghusa to aiy ga, aj tak kisi muslim na kisi Ahl al Bait ( 12 immams jin ko shia loog sirf Ahl al Bait mantay hain) ki gustakhi nahi ki, lakin is plateform par ap na khud dakh lia k kis tara sahabi ki ezit par attack kiay jatay hain, acha safeer aik aur bat batao, jub Kadiani (Ahmdi) mirza gulam ahmad wahi ka kayta ha to hum aur ap un ko kafer qarrar datay hain, lakin jub ap immams ki bat kartay hain k un par wahi ati thi aur ha to ap pher bi, mumineen hain, Qurran ma zikr kuain nahi aaya, Qurran ma to har cheez ka zikr ha, ma ya bat ap sa isliay kar raha hoon because ap ma insaniat ha, zara socho, wahi ka silsala Mohammed saw ki wafat ka waqat hi stop ho gaia, pher ap kis tarah kahtay hain k immams Allah nominate karta ha, aur un par wahi ati ha, wahi sirf aur sirf انبياء اكرام par hi ati ha, aur ya ma nahi Qurran Al Majeed farmata ha, jub Allah Subhan wa Taala Qurran ma farmatay hain /قل انا بشر مثليكم / jub Hazoor saw ko farma dia k kah do ma bi tomari tarah ka insan hoon lakin muj par wahi ati ha, to jo Nabi saw Habib Allah hain, Sardar e Unbia hain, Sardar e Do jahain hain, ko ya hukam a sakta ha to pher dosaray koon hotay hain, qurran pa yaqeen karo, us ki talimat par amal karo, us k liay arabic sekho, aik aur bat, kisi bi hadees ko Qurran k filter ma sa guzaro ager Qurran k mutabiq ha to yaqeen karo warna udha ka phynk do, YA ALLAH MADDED , ALLAH MUSHKAL KUSHA’ Ali hi hamaysha qaim ha, hazer wa nazer ha baqi sub fani hain,
han tu main iss baat pay app say agree karta hoon k App(SAWW) k baad wahi ka silsila band ho gaya hai. dear aik baat dehan main rakhao k app ki sihah e sitta main bhi tehreef hai or hamari books bhi tehreef say khali nahi hain or yay tehreef un logon nay ki hai jo muslims ko aik nahi dekhna chahtay. thats is why zarorat iss baat ki hai k ham unn tamam baton ko jo larai ki waja hai chor dain q k wo hamary dushman ko khush karti hain or hamain kamzroor.
or han aik baat or, or wo yay k kuch log hain jo Hazrat Ali (AS) ko Allah kehty hain. bhai wo nuseri hain. or shion ka koi taluq nahi onn say. wo mushriq hain. jesy k Ali (AS) ka apna qol hai k “Aik garoh aesa ho ga jo muj say bohat ziada muhabat kary ga magar wo jahanum main jaen gay” bhai wo log yehi nuseri he hain q k wo Ali (AS) ko Allah manty hain jo k galt hai. app onn ko hamary sath na milaen or na milaya karain.
Bas itefaq say rehnay ki baat karain. bhai main bhi bohat sari batain yay naey naey points otha sakta hoon but main nahi othana chahta. main iss sab ko jo larai ki waja hai dabana chahta hoon. q k jis tarah main suffer kar raha hoon na main nahi chahta k koi bhi or suffer kary. mil k rahain gay ham tu strong rahain gay otherwise ham khud he aik dosry ko tabah kar dain gay.
Regards
Safeer e Azza
I agreed with u safeer, isi liay ma Qurran ka samajnay par zoor data hoon, chalo hum apas ma malomat par discus kartay hain, Qurran ma ha / و اغرقنا ال فرعون و انتم تنظرون / aur hum na Faraon aur us ki qoom ko darya ma dubo dia aur tum dakh rahay thay,,,,,,ab yahain ,ال , Faraon ki qoom ko mukhatib kia gia ha, isi tara /ال ابراهيم / Ibrahim AS ki qoom ko kaha gia ha, lakin shia loog aur maybe you also, ال محمد / sirf shia ko samajtay hain, jo k Qurranic translain ka mutabic nahi ha, HAR WO INSAN JO ALLAH, MOHAMMED SAW, AUR QURRAN PAR IMAN RAKHTA HA WO ALL E MOHAMMED SAW HA, Umer, Shaven, Ahmed u also think about it and reply,
App ko kis nay keh dia k Tamam Shia aal e Muhammad (SAWW) hain. bhai ham aal e Muhammad (SAWW) unn ko kehty hain jo app (SAWW) ki zuriat hain yani unn ki olad hain. bhai dekho app log kehty hain app (SAWW) ki 4 betian theen. bhai aap mje bataen k kon kon si beti thi jo Nabi (SAWW) ki onn kikisi wife say ho. na k wo beti jo app (SAWW) ki kisi wife ki pehly say ho.
Orr han bhai ham iss tarha k topics discuss karny chahiay but aik dosry k jazbat ka lehaz karty hoay.
Orr han bhai islam ki khidmat just zameen add karny say tu nahi hoti na. agar kisi nay 65 lakh murabba meel add ki tu app zara yay bhi parhain k unn k dor main kia kia hoa hai. app nay unn k time ki history parhi hai kia. Bhai molana modoudi k Khilafat o Malookiat parhi hai kia app nay. plz parhain.
Orr han KS aik cheez or. app nay oper khud e keh dia k Muhammad bin Abi bakr(RA) ko donkey ki skin main band karwa k aag laga di gai. bhai kia app mje bataen gay k yay kon sa islam hai. kis islam main iss tarha ki saza di jati hai. kis islam main hain k apny mukhalif ko qatal kar k aag laga do. bhai Islam tu yay nahi kehta k app Kuffar k sath bhi asa salook karo. islam tu kehta hai k apny mulkhalif ko jab qatal k lo tu onn ki laash k sath koi bura salook na karo. on k chehray na bigaro. etc etc. bhi wo tu phir bhi muslim thay. Hazrat Ayesah k bhai thay. Hazrat Abu bakar app k pehly khalifa e rashid k bety thay. unn k sath asa salook yay tu kuffar ka tareeka ho sakta hai muslims ka nahi. chalo mje aik or baat app bataen just yay k kia kisi khalifa e rashid k dor main asa hoa. kia hazrat umer jo k kafi gusay waly thay kia unhon nay kabhi kisi kafir ko bhi koi asi saza di. kisi ki dead body ko jalaya. bhai jan app ko shayid pata nahi hai k jab Muhammad Bin abi Bakr(RA) k sath asa salook kia gaya tha or jab hazrat Ayesha (RA) ko iss ki khabar hoi thi tu onhon nay Mavia pay lanat ki thi. bhai aik baat or baen k Mavia nay islam kab kabool kia. kitny time wo Nabi (SAWW) k sath raha. or zara yay bhi baten k islam main badshahat ka aghaz kab say hoa.
Mery bhai agar kisi bhi baat ka bura laga ho tu i am sorry.
Or han hajjj bin yousuf k bary main shayid Hazrat Umer bin Abdul Aziz k jo remarks thay wo bhi send karon ga main app ko. bhai History jo parhain without any biasedness.
KS app mery bhai hain or app he nahi tamam birdran e ahl e Sunnat mery bhai hain. but kisi ki galti ko galt kehna chahiay or agar kisi non-muslim nay bhi acha kam kia hai tu osko acha kehna chahiay.
Safeer sahib, Qurran ki bat galat ho sakti ha ? Jab Qurran ma / بناتكم يا نبي / ha to more than two betian hoti hain aur yah ma ap ko ap ki apni kitab ma say bata raha hoon, jub Zaynab ra ki wafat hoi to Hazoor khud qaber ma dakhal huway aur apnay hatoon sa dafan kia, ab bata dain k ager apni bati na hoti to kasay hath lagaty, aur 2 betian ki Usman ra say shadi ki jis ki waja sa Usman ko ZO AL NOORAIAN ka khatab mila, aur aik bat ap kafi samajdar hain, ulad chalti ha batoon say, aur Nabi e Pak saw ka 3 batay wafat pa gaiy, ab betian sa ulad nahi chalti, ap na / ال فرعون / jo k Qurran ma ha k us ka mannay walay, /ال ابراهيم / Ibrahim AS ko mannay walay, ab ap apni dafa / ال محمد / ko sirf un ki ulad kahty hain, baqi Mohammed bin abu baker ki ap na bat ki, jub us ko jalaya ja raha tha to un ka sakay bahi Abdur Rehman bin Abu Baker bi jalanay waloon ma shamal thay, app qatal Usman ra ko pee gaiay, is ka ziker tak nahi kia, 40 roze tak jis ko bokha piasa rakh kar shaheed kia gaia,rozay ki halat ma shaheed kia gaia jo water well unhoon na yahodi sa khareed kar muslim ka liay waqaf kar dia us ka pani bund kar dia gaia, qurran ki talawat kartay huway shaheed kia gaia, aj bi wo qurran turky ma un ki mazlomiat sabat karta ha, aj tak kisi shia na un ka qatal ki muzamat nahi ki, ab shaied ap yay bi kay dain ka Usman ra ka gar Hazoor ki sagi betian nahi the, aik aur bat jab Usman ra ko shaheed kia gaia to baher pahray par Hassan ra aur Hussain ra thay, aur ap ki kitab ap ka hawala Hassan ra na kitni shadian ki, jantay hain, more than 300, ap na Hajjaj bin Yousif ka likha to wo koi farishta nahi tha, us sa bi mistake ho gai ho gi, lakin sirf aik larki ka pokarnay par us na Mohammed bin Qasim ko Debal bahj dia jo us ka bhatija aur damad tha, aur us na Raja Daher ki hazaroo sal strong haqoomat tabah kar di, hum jo aj India, Pakitan, Bangadas ma musaman hain to sirf Allah ka bad Hajjaj bin Yousif ki badolat, Qurran pa ahrab kis na lagway Hajjaj bin Yousif na, safeer sahib Nabi mahsoom hota ha, baqi koi mahsoom nahi, un sa galtian ho sakti hain, ap na likha ka sirf area fatha kar lanay sa islam ki khidmat nahi hoti, to janab Ali ra ko choor ka ap ka koon sa ahl e bait na kitni zameen fatah ki aur islam ki haqoomat kitni wasee ki, baqi ap apnay dalial da rahay hain aur ma apnay, aur na hi mara kisi ki insult karna ha, yay haqeeqat ha,