An open letter to Raza Rumi – by Ali Taj, LUBP Editor-in-Chief
For the last few years, LUBP website has been advocating, unapologetically and without obfuscation, for the rights of Shias, Ahmadis, Sunni Barelvis, Christians, Hindus, Balochs, Pashtuns etc, the targeted and disenfranchised communities of Pakistan.
While our editors, authors, contributors and supporters have always been threatened by the banned militant outfits including Taliban and Sipah-e-Sahaba/Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (ASWJ-LeJ) or their right-wing advocates in the Urdu media, in the last couple of years we have also been threatened by certain pro-establishment pseudo-liberals of Pakistan’s English media.
While LUBP took a very clear stance against pro-Taliban Deobandi and Salafi hate clerics and terrorist leaders sponsored by Saudi Arabia and Pakistan military establishment, a growing segment of pro-establishment pseudo-liberals attacked our criticism instead of supporting us. In fact they glorified and stood with the pro-Taliban hate clerics against LUBP, and resorted to obfuscation of Shia genocide at the hands of Takfiri Deobandi terrorists of TTP-ASWJ.
When LUBP criticized the Friday Times blog (edited by you and Najam Sethi), the Jinnah Institute, Capital TV etc for normalizing, humanizing and providing platform to pro-Taliban clerics and leaders of banned terrorist organizations, instead of responding to our legitimate criticism, you (Mr Rumi) and some of your colleagues started harassing LUBP authors and other pro-rights activists.
Using pen names to write sensitive articles against powerful pro-establishment figures is an ancient tradition. You should know this, Mr. Rumi, as even you utilized LUBP to write under a pen name. Can you deny this fact? Hence abusing others as cowards is rather hypocritical just as it is a cowardly tactic to attack anti-establishment activists on Twitter. Do you lack the guts to challenge my articles exposing your direct and indirect promotion of Sipah-e-Sahaba and Taliban?
LUBP has already lost our supporter, leading Shia rights activist, Khudi Ali in January 2013. We have also lost other supporters and their relatives who used to write on LUBP with pen names because of security concerns, whose identities were conveyed to banned terrorist outfits. https://lubpak.com/archives/278323. We are all going to die some day. At LUBP we yearn for a death like that of Khudi Ali Shaheed, may God elevate his levels in the heavens.
Everyone has to die one day, and all of us will be held accountable for our deeds. You too, Mr. Rumi, and others who glorify, humanize or promote anti-Shia anti-Ahmadi clerics and harass Shia, Ahmadi, Sunni Barelvi activists cannot hope to live for ever. What will you leave behind is a blood stained history of a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I made my policy clear to you back in April 2013 https://lubpak.com/archives/260809. Why is it that when any “liberal media outlet” promotes terrorists in a deceptive way that you or your TFT blog employer Najam Sethi are always affiliated with it? You must apologize and come clean on your tactful promotion of hate clerics or hate groups (Sipah Sahaba, Taliban). Otherwise we will continue to criticize your support for murderers under the veil of opportunist liberalism.
As chief editor of LUBP, I stand by all legitimate criticism of you, Najam Sethi and all others who uncritically promote, humanize and provide a platform to hate clerics of banned terrorist outfits, and contribute to violence against Shias, Ahmadis etc. https://lubpak.com/archives/280987
Recently we have seen you directly attacking, naming and locating our present and former bloggers and their relatives who have nothing to do with LUBP. The implications of such tactic are very clear in a society where Shia, Ahmadi and other non-Deobandi non-Salafi professionals are being target killed on a daily basis by the same people who are being promoted by you and your friends and colleagues. https://twitter.com/WorldShiaForum/status/386804134180966400
Instead of regretting your uncritical promotion of hate clerics of banned terrorist outfits, you are threatening families and relatives of Shia, Ahmadi, Christian and other bloggers. As a matter of fact, we have never seen you take Deobandi hate clerics (of or sympatheic to banned Sipah-e-Sahaba etc) to task, the way you are threatening present and former bloggers of LUBP and other anti-establishment activists. How low can you stoop? How much more money will you and your boss Najam Sethi make on the blood of innocent Shia, Sufi Sunni Brelvi, Ahmadi and Christians? Is this the legacy you want to leave behind?
We have documented evidence of instances where you and some of your friends and colleagues glorified and promoted pro-Taliban clerics with known anti-Shia, anti-Ahmadi views. This has in turn enabled and contributed to acs of violence against Shias, Sunni Barelvis, Ahmadis, Christians etc. You must remember that as per laws of several Western countries including the USA, UK, Canada, Australia etc, all those who glorify hate clerics or militants or incite or enable acts of violence by the Taliban and Sipah-e-Sahaba (ASWJ-LeJ) may be subject to visa ban and other sanctions.
Promoting, glorifying or enabling terrorism, violence, or criminal activity is a violation of international law, and those who publicly glorify pro-Taliban pro-ASWJ-LeJ clerics, enable terrorism or enable and incite hatred may be barred from visiting Canada, USA, UK and other countries. This includes a foreign national who makes public statements or uses any means to broadcast, write, produce, publish or distribute material, including a website and public speaking, to express views which:
(a) directly or indirectly promote or glorify terrorist violence or promote or golorify those who glorify Taliban and Al Qaeda;
(b) promote or glorify a listed entity (eg Sipah-e-Sahaba (ASWJ-LeJ), Taliban) under Regulations Establishing a List of Entities pursuant to the Criminal Code of a country, Regulations Implementing the United Nations Resolutions on the Suppression of Terrorism or the United Nations Al-Qaida and Taliban Regulations;
(c) counsel, enable, encourage or incite others to commit terrorist activity or terrorist violence;
(d) incite or promote hatred that is likely to lead to violence against a specific group;
(e) promote, counsel, encourage or incite serious criminal activity.
Mr Rumi: On more than one occasions you have glorified, promoted and provided platform to pro-Taliban pro-ASWJ Deobandi clerics with known anti-Shia, anti-Ahmadi, anti-Christian views, which enabled and contributed to violence against Shias, Sunni Barelvis, Ahmadis, Christians etc at the hands of TTP-ASWJ Deobandi terrorists.
Technically speaking, your actions confirm that you are engaging in unacceptable behaviour by enabling, promoting or seeking to provoke others to serious criminal acts and fostering hatred which might lead to inter-community violence within and outside Pakistan.
Such persistent violation of international law could lead to the governments of the USA, Canada, UK, France, other EU countries, India etc to impose visa restrictions on you and others who glorify or promote hate clerics with known pro-Taliban anti-Shia anti-Ahmadi views. As per international laws, your bank accounts and assets outside Pakistan may be frozen so that you cannot use those funds to incite violence against already target killed religious groups in Pakistan or against Western citizens by the Takfiri Deobandi terrorists of ASWJ-LeJ, Jundullah and Taliban.
Such sanctions may also include:
1. Cancellation of any pre-existing visas;
2. Complete ban on issuing any kind of visas in the future;
3. Stopping national (public, private) and international organisations from engaging in any type of commercial or non-commercial businesses owned by such individuals who glorify, promote or publish pro-Taliban hate clerics;
4. Stopping all donations given to these individuals or the organisations they own or manage;
5. Freezing their bank accounts; and
6. Placing details of these individuals and organisations on the international database of terrorist organisations and individuals
As chief editor of LUBP, I await your specific response to legitimate criticism of you and others who humanize, normalize and provide a platform to hate clerics and terrorists. Intimidating relatives and families of our present and former bloggers (even those who have nothing to do with LUBP) will only lead to further bloodshed of Shia and Ahmadiyya Muslims – Is that the goal you want to achieve?
Obviously if you had a valid counter-argument, you would never have resorted to harassment and ad hominem attacks. This is typical Sipah-e-Sahaba and Taliban tactic whose leaders and glorifiers your Friday Times blog provides space to. https://lubpak.com/archives/252959
LUBP is in touch with rights groups in and outside Pakistan, and we will take all possible measures to protect rights activists, and remain committed to highlighting the plight of persecuted communities of Pakistan.
If you have any problems with that, feel free to contact me.
Reaction on Twitter
As an Ahmadiyya Muslim living in Canada, I fully support this letter, and request PM Stephen Harper to impose visa ban on Raza Rumi, Najam Sethi and all others who promote pro-Taliban clerics and harass minority rights bloggers.
Full support to Mr. Ali Abbas Taj and the LUBP web site on this matter.
Khoda gharat karay is doshmane qaum, zameer farosh Rumi ko.
Iss kay haathon per Shaheed Irfan Khudi Ali ka lahoo he.
This is a classical case of Nazism behind a thin veneer of liberalism.
As a British citizen, I demand the UK government to slap visa and other restrictions on Raza Rumi and other thugs who promte Taliban and other Jihadist terrorists.
I wish to see their names in this list issued by the Home Office:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_banned_from_entering_the_United_Kingdom
“Considered to be engaging in unacceptable behaviour by seeking to foment, justify or glorify terrorist violence in furtherance of particular beliefs and fostering hatred that might lead to inter-community violence”
Shia Post:
http://en.shiapost.com/2013/07/12/the-friday-times-promotes-sipah-e-sahaba-terrorists/
‘The Friday Times’ Promotes Sipah-E-Sahaba Terrorists
on July 12, 2013
An article entitled “The Madarssa Network of Sindh” published in The Friday Times magazine (TFT Issue Number: Vol. XXV, No. 22, July 12-18, 2013) written by its Ali K Chishti (@akchishti) who is known as Liberal but supports pro-Taliban terrorists.
According to Sipah Sahaba ASWJ-LeJ terrorits Aurangzeb Faruqi Deobandi who spoke to Ali Chishti of The Friday Times (TFT) blog, ASWJ-LeJ maddrasas don’t teach sectarianism.
A letter to Ali Abbas Taj and request to Raza Rumi – by Ali Wahab
https://lubp.net/archives/275951
War against amateur social media activists of Pakistan – by Pejamistri https://lubp.net/archives/275987
Raza Rumi’s War on Bloggers !
https://lubp.net/archives/280987
This is a Shia Rafizi Qadiani anti-Islam website and you hate Mr. Raza Rumi because he is a devout Deobandi Muslim just like Moulana Tahir Ashrafi and Moulana Ludhyanvi.
This post is abusive, defamatory, full of non-sense … bullshit is the word.
پنجابی شاونسٹ کے ساتھ دیوبندی کا تڑکا لگایا جائے اور سعودی ریالوں اور امریکی ڈالروں کی جھنکار سنائی جائے تو رضا رومی اور نجم سیٹھی جیسی اشیا برآمد ہوتی ہیں
What a low life !
Attacks on Shias, Qadianis or anybody else for what they believe cannot be justified but at the same time I do’t think Najam Sethi or Mr Rumi have ever promoted hate literature
I am a Sunni and against Wahhabis and Deobandis, you shall always have my support.
Wahhabi/Deobandi Taliban are knowingly involved in widespread terrorism inside Pakistan and the greater world. Pakistani Establishment plays a key role in obstructing justice where cases are booked against Wahhabi/Deobandi banned terror outfits, the reason is well known, Wahhabi/Deobandi Taliban in exchange of big favours, such as this, readily execute orders of some Deobandi generals at the ISI (note: I am patriotic and have defended ISI against the Indians for over 5 years on Youtube, Twitter and Facebook with forty fake IDs, all by myself). The only problem prevailing in Pakistan with respect to terrorism is the rise of Deobandi mosques with Deobandi clerics inside them all over Pakistani Army installations.
I don’t understand. I’ve never known Raza Rumi to have supported anything against human rights–I’ve been a long-time follower and also know him through a friend of mine. Can you link to the evidence you have against him and others, especially for the sake of those who have just learned about this matter?
Dear “Barefoot Bookworm”, many of us were fooled by Raza Rumi. Even now he generally keeps a liberal veneer and I liked his 20 points on the Taliban – even if I found them to be vague and full of omissions. For instance, he says nothing about how his Jinnah Institute advocated for a futre role for the Taliban in Afghanistan in their infamous and detailed report.
Please go through this article and see the links. Especially, where Raza Rumi’s Friday Times provided an unchallenged platform to Sipah Sahaba terrorist leader, Ludhianvi.
When LUBP critisized Maulana Tahir Ashrafi for his abusive and sick language against Ahmadis and Shias, Raza Rumi was promoting him! And then when LUBP was being attacked by Ashrafi and Ali Chishti, a Sipah Sahaba activist and friend and colleague of Raza Rumi, Rumi supported them in their harassment of LUBP editor and site. Whenever Ali Chishti threatened police violence against LUBP, guess who was supporting him on social media.
The problem with these pseudo liberal types is that they could never handle the valid criticism of LUBP and they resorted to pathetic intimidation tactics. I have not seen Raza Rumi even once provide a proper counter arguement to LUBP because he has none. All he does is abuse and intimidate. In the beginning, we all thought that LUBP was wrong in criticizing Raza Rumi. They both claimed to be liberal. But how can you be liberal and promote Sipah Sahaba at the same time.
@Jhanzeb, I suppose you probably missed the TFT (editted by RR and Sethi) where they published the unchallenged hate speech of Sipah Sahaba Ludhianvi and Farooqi.
“Kafir, Kafir, Shia Kafir is a political slogan” was one response that went unchallenged at TFT!
I just saw the pathetic response from Pak Tea House. They did not even bother to quote this link in their response. A mutual friend who also knows the PTH/TFT group told me that this article has really shaken them up. They are not used to getting questioned on their less than proud moments where they were supporting hate mongers like Ashrafi and Ludhainvi.
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