Hamid Mir criticizes LUBP in Geo TV’s Capital Talk

In his popular talk show ‘Capital Talk’ (Geo TV) on 5 November 2009, Hamid Mir dedicated almost entire program to criticize the ‘Let us build Pakistan’ (LUBP) blog as well as the group ‘Critical Supporters of Pakistan Peoples Party’.




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Hamid Mir and his guest Ansar Abbasi alleged that the LUBP’ was being run from the President House, and that an ambassador was the overall in charge of this blog.

Mir also alleged that the LUBP blog is trying to create differences between Pakistan Army and media. It was also suggested that this blog was being run by CIA and Mossad.

We refute these allegations, and advise Hamir Mir, Ansar Abbasi and other journalists to incorporate an element of responsibility in their exercise of the freedom of media.

We also refuse to be silenced and subdued by the systematic and coordinated bullying and harassment which our blog faced today in the said program of Capital Talk.

While Geo News and other TV channels have a predominantly commercial orientation, we are an independent blog, and are very proud of this.

We seek our readers and fellow bloggers’ advice regarding our future course in this matter.

Once again, we assert that this blog does not represent the official policy of PPP. We are an independent group of ordinary Pakistani citizens who are critical supporters of PPP.

Government believes supremacy of Parliament: Sumsam
Associated Press of Pakistan

ISLAMABAD, Nov 5 (APP): State Minister for Information and broadcasting Syed Sumsam Bukhari Thursday said that the constitution would be restored in its original shape. Talking to the Geo News, state minister said that PPP strongly believes in the supremacy of 1973 constitution.President Asif Ali Zardari time and again shown his willingness to give back presidential powers to parliament.

Outrightly denying the existence of PPP’s website busy in smear campaign against the opponents,Sumsam said that PPP have no tradition of accusations and propaganda against their opponents.Regarding curbs on media the government has no plan to impose any sanctions on the media.

State minister said Pakistan was passing through in very critical phase of its life. Responding to a question he denied the formation of any alliance against the government. Present government would complete its tenure and he was not expecting any adventurism from any institution.

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Some comments: (various sources: facebook, friendskorner, pkpolitics)

qaisanwar said:

بھاءی حامد میر: یہ کیا ہوا۔ ویب سایٹس پر اتنا غصہ ۔ بھاءی انٹر نیٹ کی صحافت اب ایک مسلمہ صحافت ہے۔ ہمارے ٹی وی اینکرز کیا کیا نہیں کرتے ؟کیا وہ ٹی پر آکرسیاست دانوں کو کھلم کھلا چیلنج نہیں کرتے؟ کیا وہ ہمیشہ مخصوص لوگوں کو ٹارگٹ نہیں کرتے ؟ کیا اس وقت سیاست دان بن کر زرداری کے اقتدار چھوڑنے کی مہم نہیں چلا رہے؟

آج دنیا بھر میں روایتی صحافت مخصوص معاشی اور سیاسی مفادات کا تحفظ کر رہی ہے۔ صحافت میں اب بڑی بڑی ملٹی نیشنل کمپنیاں بن چکی ہیں ۔ اس صورتحال میں دنیا بھر میں انٹر نیٹ کی صورت میں متبادل صحافت نے جنم لیا ہے۔ آپ لوگ اپنے ٹی وی اور اخباروں کو مختلف سیاسی مقاصد کے استعمال کر رہے ہیں اس کے جواب میں اگر لوگ انٹر نیٹ پر اپنا نکتہ نظر دے رہے ہیں تو آپ نے ان کے خلاف بھی مہم چلا دی۔ بڑے بھاءی آزادی صرف آپ کے لیے ہی کیوں ؟ ان کے لیے کیوں نہیں جو آپ سے اختلاف کرتے ہیں ۔

انٹر نیٹ ک صحافت غریب آدمی کی صحافت ہے بھاءی اسے پھلنے پھولنے دیجءے اس کا گلا نہ گھونٹیں ۔ جو آزادی آپ اپنے لیے مانگتے ہیں وہ انٹر نیٹ والوں کو بھی دیجیے۔ہارون رشید صاحب کے خلاف تھے آپ لیٹ اس بلڈ پاکستان  کے خلاف ہو گءے نہیں بھاءی صحافتی آزادی ہر طرح ک صحافت کو ملنی چاہہے ہاں ضابطہ اخلاق بے تو سب کے لیے

aftab said:

This website is very dodgy indeed and has propaganda against our hero anchors and has articles from Abbas Ather and co etc and bigging these true yellow journalists up, i advise everyone to have quick browse through this.

Sajid Hussain said:
Conguratulations your site is being featured in JEW TV’s Capital talk programm on 5th Nov 2009
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Humza Ikram said:

keep it up !

qaisanwar said:

انٹر نیٹ جرنلزم کے متعلق آپ کی بات بالکل درست ہے۔لیکن یہ حقیقت اپنی جگہ ہےکہ انٹرنیٹ جرنلزم نے اظہار راءے کو وسعت دی اور عام آدمی کے لیے لکھنا ممکن بنایا ۔ ٹی وی اور پرنٹ میڈیا بہر حال کسی نہ کسی جگہ کمپنی کے طور پر رجسٹرڈ ہے؛ اپنی کمپنی اور اشتہار دینے والوں کے مفادات کے لیے کام کرتا ہے اور سٹیٹ کے کنٹرول میں میں آتا ہے۔

میں ہارون رشید کے نظریات کا شدید مخالف ہوں لیکن ان کا احترام اس لیے کرتا ہوں کہ ان کا کوءی نظریہ ہے لیکن لال مسجد کے حوالے سے انہوں نے بھی بڑے محتاط انداز میں ایجنسیوں سے واقفیت تسلیم کی ہے۔ میرے نزدیک یہ ان کا بڑا پن ہے۔

اصل میں مسءلہ وہ صحافت ہے جو صرف پیسے کے لیے کام کرتی ہے۔ بیچارہ ناظر یا قاری ابھی تک اخبار کو اور ٹی وی کو ایسے ہی دیکھتا ہے جیسے مولانا حسرت موہانی کا دور ہو آج کی صحافت ایک کاروبار ہے (جو بری بات نہیں)لیکن اس کاروبار کا کوءی احتساب نہیں اور کا روبار کی یہ قسم حکومتوں کے تختے الٹنے کا کام بھی کرتی ہے۔ ایران میں میں ڈاکٹر مصدق کی حکومت کو ناکام بنانے کے لیے سی آءی اے نے نوے فیصد صحافیوں کو اپنے پے رول پر رکھا تھا ۔

اب ہارون رشید کے بعد حامد میر نے انٹر نیٹ میڈیا کو نشانے پر لیا ہے۔ کو ءی بعید نہیں کہ کچھ عرصے کے بعد پاکستان کے کسی گاوں میں بیٹھا ٹی دیکھنے والا کہہ رہا ہو ”ویب سایٹ ایک نءی کمپنی کا نام ہے جو آصف زرداری نے کرپشن کے پیسوں سے بناءی ہے۔ اس کو پیسے امریکہ اور انڈیا سے آتے ہیں آجکل پرویز مشرف بھی اس میں کام کرتا ہے کیری لوگر بل میں یہ بھی لکھا ہے کہ ویب سایٹ کو تحفط دیا جاءے گا۔۔۔۔۔

ہارون رشید صاحب نے دعوی کیا تھا کہ روف کلاسرا کے خلاف مہم کونواز شریف سپنسر کرتے ہیں حامد میر صاحب نے ایک دوسری ویب سایٹ کے لیے پیپلز پارٹی والوں کا نام لگا دیا۔ اب اگر ایسے ہی اگر کچھ لوگ مشہور صحافیوں کو ایجنسیوں سے جوڑتے ہیں تو اسے بھی سن لیا جاءے جب انصار عباسی؛ شاہین صہباءی ؛ صا لح ظافر مقتدر حلقوں اور ان کے لکھے ہوءے سکرپٹ کی بات کرتے ہیں تو کہیں نہ کہیں مقتدر حلقوں نے غیر ذمہ داری کی ہے اور یہ باتیں باہر نکالی ہیں۔ اب اگر ان کی کہی ہوءی باتوں کی بنیاد پر انٹرنیٹ پر ایجنسیوں کے خلاف لکھا گیا تو اس میں ایجنسیوں کا اپنا قصور ہے ۔ یہ ایجنسیوں کی ذمہ داری ہے کہ جب ان کے حوالے سے خبر دی جاءے تو وہ اس کی تردید کریں

اپنا قصور ہے ۔ یہ ایجنسیوں کی ذمہ داری ہے کہ جب ان کے حوالے سے خبر دی جاءے تو وہ اس کی تردید کریں جب حامد میر صاحب نے جنرل کیانی اور پرویز مشرف سمیت تین لوگوں کی آصف زرداری سے متعلق گفتگو بیان کی تھی تو لازمی طور پر یہ گفتگو انہیں کسی نے دی تھی۔ جب نصرت جاوید بتا رہے ہیں کہ صدارت کے لیے کون سے نام زیر غور ہیں تو یہ نام کوءی چاءے والا تو تجویز نہیں کر رہا کہیں کوءی طاقت ور حلقہ ہی کر رہا ہے۔ بریگیڈیر امتیاز کے حوالے سے چھڑنے والی گفتگو سے اب پوری قوم جانتی ہے کہ یہ حلقے کو ن سے ہیں اب موجودہ صورتحال کے تناظر میں اگر کوءی ان حلقوں کا نام لیتا ہے تو حامد میر اور الیکٹرانک میڈیا کو انٹر نیٹ صحافت کے حق کو تسلیم کرنا چاہیے

Aamir Mughal said:

Mr. Hamid Mir and Mr. Ansar Abbasi in their last night program of Capital Talk [5 Nov 2009 – GEO TV] have declared that your blog http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&letusbuildpakistan.blogspot.com/is being run from President House by Asif Ali Zardari. They also said that PPP AND YOUR BLOG have been creating DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ARMY AND MEDIA. LAUNCH THAT PROGRAM ON YOUR BLOG SO TO DISCUSS THIS ALLEGATION.

Nazir Naji and Ansar Abbasi were literally fighting and exchanging allegation of corruption against each other. They also say that PPP through this blog has specifically targetted Shaheen Sehbai, Ansar Abbasi and Dr Shahid Abbasi and creating differences between Army and Journalists mentioned above.

Note: They forgot to mention one thing that Shaheen Sehbai used to run Anti State Anti Army Website from USA from 2002 to 2005/06.

Wish you all well.

maikolachi said:
Hamid Mir/Dr Masood/etc say something on their program and a couple of MNA’s go crazy on the house floor. Someone says something on a web-site out of the gega zillion web sites out there and the entire media goes crazy.

If the media has the freedom of speech should not anyone else out there have it also. So what if the PPP flag is there and an ambassador is promoting it. Anyone is entitled to their opinion even Asif Zardari I would say. Dont like it shut the channel or hit that X button on the browser.

This Media is way over reacting, once or twice is ok, but this entire week is going on and on with this issue.

hasankhan said:
insar ebasi is the father of all terrorirsts.

Tariq Khan said:
Assalam-o-alaikum, I am really thankful to Geo and Hamid Mir who introduced such a great blog for the people who love pakistan. Hamid Mir (Mir jaafar), Ansar Abbasi( Black mailer) and Haroon Rashid(Gangster) are ” Ghadar-i- Pakistan”. These are the people who’s main objective is to fall down the government of PPP. thanks for creating this blog. Tariq Khan, A geala from Peshawar

T Carmichael said:
I have been reading your blog and believe that we share a common interest regarding the security situation in Pakistan. I’m writing to let you know that Canada’s Human Security Report Project just published the Pakistan Conflict Monitor. I hope that you will find our new blog interesting and useful to your work.

Yusafkhan said:
Ansar abbasi…..taliban lover
He was the one who was justifying the caning of that young girl in swat. Shame on you Ansar abbasi….i dont trust you one bit

Pakistani73 said:
I am following a certain group of journalists who work for establishment since last 20 years. Follow the history. I put my comment, which I posted on other thread.

Pakistani media is going through evolutionary process like other institution of democracy. Why establishment (righteous) ruled Pakistan directly or indirectly for more than 50 years? Answer is very simple. Because of black sheep in political parties (Mostly righteous politicians, mufaad parast Muslim leegee and JI No 1 then corrupt black mailed persons from other parties), black sheep in judiciary (Iftikhar chouhdary was biggest black sheep after 12th October but now righteous made him farishta), black sheep in media (90% were black sheep gave good support to establishment to rule for 50 years. Things are getting better but when big names are still getting secret briefings from army then Allah he Hafiz), black sheep’s in Intzamia.

Let me categorize some of journalists. If you want to know establishment view then read this group (Kamran Khan, Irshad Huqaani, Ansar Abbasi, Saleh Zafir, Tariq Chaudhray, Hamid Mir, Mujeeb Shami, Shaheen Sehbai, Nazir Naji etc). PMNL supporters (Irfan Sadeeqe, dr Safdar, Nawai Waqat group, Mushtaq Minhas, Javid Chaudhary etc). PPP supporters (Abbas Athar, Rauf Kalasra, Mazhar Abbas, Nazir Laghari, Munnon Bhai etc). I personally think these are neutral according to there record (Iftikhar Ahmed, Nusrat Javid, Mohammad Malik, Saleem Safi, Hassan Nisar etc). Latest news about Talat Hussan that he is got secret briefings from establishment. Kashif Abbasi jazbat ke rukh mein behta hay. Dr Shahid no worth talking about him. Haroon Ur Rasheed righteous but better than establishment supporters. We should not support establishment supporter journalists

Yaar Hasan Nisar is supporter of MQM but I do not think he is real Haq (establishment) parast. Haroon Ur Rasheed is supporter of Imran but he differs with him on issue of Swat. Anyway he is righteous. Until now Imran is doing JI kind of politics so he is supporting other wise he will change his views about Imran. You can get establishment thoughts and future planes of wardatiyas from Nazir Naji articles. AsadUllahGhalib is jiala but not that class.

Adnan Gill said:
If people like Nazeer Naji are correct about ISI handing readymade stories to highly reputable journalists like Ansar Abbasi and Shaheen Sehbai then wouldn’t THENEWS be better off (save money) by removing the middlemen and directly publishing the stories under the pen-names? On the plus side they wouldn’t have to put up with the frivolous accusations either.

If I would be in PPP camp, I would rather higher the high quality ISI story writers at quadruple salaries to replace the current substandard story tellers.

Why is PPP loosing propaganda war to ISI?

Shahid said:
What is very interesting to note is that most of the journalists under fire are Shaheen Sehbai, Ansar Abassi, Shahid Masood and Hamid Mir. What is common between all of them is their employer i.e. Jang group. The name of this group has always been of concern, as it is unique and maybe takes its name seriously and thrives on creating a war like situation, what else is expected from the ‘The War group’. This group a fly on the wall told me is under intense pressure to pay Rs. 3 billion to the tax authorities, which it owes on account of deductions of tax at source from salaries to its employees and not putting it where it belongs, that is the national exchequer. What should we call this, if not theft and gross mis conduct. No wonder the ‘dogs of war’ have been unleashed. Much that they state and claim is not maybe wrong, but then how it serves the cause of Pakistan only they know.

It does seem to serve the owners interest, who have no choice but to pay, so now bitterly wants to pay in installments and is looking for the right brokerage or law (firm) to get this concession. Another fly on another wall states that the mighty owner in exile is really unhappy at not getting the DTH (Direct To Home) license so far. The government in power is such a spoil sport and does not maybe want to share the spoils of war and or play ball with them, hence we see the onslaught.

Have you noticed the way the 8 big electronic dirty launderers have been congratulating each other for the new code of conduct they have come up with, maybe they should all see how the Fort Hood incident was and is being reported. Should establish ligitimacy in the channel dealings and inform the audience of all their revenue streams and make correct declarations and not steal what was is supposed to be spent on our people and then claim to be on a high moral ground.

Mr. Naji himself has a lot of explaining to do as the old bull in our china shop.

Qualified Propogandist and or info managers are maybe not on top of the agenda of our Lords as they need a good dentist, as they are loosing their teeth at regular intervals…

dara said:
Ansar abbasi is definitly working for agencies and has a close link to Jihadi group. He has always reproduced reports or cases which have always have personal vendetta. He was the first ever journalist to write corruption storey against Iftikhar Ch.

Those forces use Ansar Abbasi like people. I don’t mind if Ansar brings out corruption stories, but why not against any army General ( serving) or right wing big guns? because they are the one who own this country.
The latest storey he published is also from past ( 1990’s). I challenge Mr. Abbasi to find out about distribution of Agri as well as commercial lands amongst the Military Bureaucracy, do you dare?. May be just investigate thousands of acres distributed by Akram Durrani in NWFP to Army, Army gave it to Durrani and then he distributed, find out and name the officers who were involved in duel deal, do you dare?

Lets investigate how Jamat E Islami people who were ridding Bicycle in 1970’s got most expensive vehicles by end of 1980’s and then how they got more durring Afghan transit trade durring Talibans times?

Lets Investigate how many industrial units worth billions of RS are owned by Sons of retired Army Officers, and how they were able to get it?

Lets investigate how Roedad Khan and other Civilian Bureaucrates have billions of woth properties?
I dare you…

Insider said:

Ansar Abbasi is an honest journalist? lol. Here is a glimpse (from pkjournalist):

* What happened when Ansar Abbasi along with five other journalists of Islamabad moved the Lahore High Court to get plots after denied by Shaukat Aziz government. Read his actual petition with his desperate reasons and logic listed by his lawyer

* The details of unreported meeting between Ansar Abbasi and infamous DIG Gujaranwala Zulifkar Cheema at Islamabad club, over a lunch a day before DIG appearance before the apex court in a suo moto case related to beating of a Express News reporter. Who paid the bill of this sumptuous lunch as Mr Abbasi does not have membership of the club. Mr Cheema is same cop who had given story of gangster Munno Goriya and his links with Justice Bilal of the Lahore High Court and later killed him in a police shootout to eliminate the evidence. How Ansar Abbasi managed to bail out his cop friend?

* What is the link between former Commissioner Malakand Mohammad Javed and Ansar Abbasi? Read Mr Abbasi’s stories in favour of Taliban’s mentor, who now is in custody of the country’s intelligence agencies for his role in beheading of four Pakistan Army’s SSG commandoes

* Who is Ejaz Abbasi, read his complete profile, what role he is playing for ‘Ansar Bhai’? — inside story

* Who transferred a one kanal plot in the name of Ansar Abbasi in sector G-14? See documents and pictures with inside details

* How did Tariq Butt, special correspondent The News, get Rs 13 millions in cash from Pakistan Broadcasting Corporation (PBC)? And what was his role in causing the PBC to run into an annual deficit of Rs 500m

* Who owns Top City and Mumtaz city? Is another multi billion housing scam is ready to blow up? What is the link of Tariq Butt with this fast brewing housing scam?

* Why the Hasilpur Police (Bhawalpur) arrested the disreputed columnist Rehmat Ali Razi? Razi is uncle (Chacha) and patron of Ahmed Noorani, The News Islamabad. What made Jang Group’s chief Mir Shakeel-ur-Rehman to sack Rehmat Ali Razi after he was shown stack of proofs of his alleged corruption?

Nasir Hussain said:
I can only laugh at the remarks of Adnan shb that Ansar abbassi is a reputable journalistt…..is that so really?????? Sehbai, ansar, shahid masood and team ….all these are only and only against PPP and Zardari and busy in criticism for the sake of criticism……It is a fact that Sehbai approched a friend of Zardari and (senetor in US) to become the ambassador of Pak in US but so sad he failed…..ab gusa kraha hy…..Shahid masood did its best to become an icon in PPP but failed again….and now propagating….kabi Qayamat ki batain krta tha aur ab Zardari ki mukhlifat bs…….one thing more…..in 1965 it is the hitory of jang group that they made it ready “””Pak per Qabza hogaya”””” bt later they change the story……i fully agree that this group works for CIA undoubtly…..
Nasir Hussain
Islamabad.

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