Jibran Nasir and Saleem Safi’s questionable stance on ASWJ-LeJ’s terrorist Malik Ishaq’s death
A few days ago, Raza Rumi’s Pak Tea House blog published a video interview of US-based consultant Arif Jamal who actually condemned Pakistani State on the “extra-judicial killing” of Malik Ishaq and also tried to obfuscate and belittle the role of Deobandi Takfiri terrorism in Pakistan.
Now the same blog PTH has published a somewhat questionable and apologist article on the same topic by Jibran Nasir in which Malik Ishaq’s death has been condemned.
1. It is a fact that only a few hours after Ishaq’s death, Jibran Nasir (not unlike his mentor Beena Sarwar) acted as a jury, judge and investigator in a rush, and tweeted against the extra judicial killing of Malik Ishaq. We ask him who told him that the terrorist was killed extra-judicially? Also, we ask him how many more Shias and Sunnis is he waiting to be killed before the sellout pro-Taliban-ASWJ judges did something about Malik Ishaq.
2. How many more thousands of innocent Shias, Sunni Barelvis, Sufis, Ahmadis and Christians have to be killed before his notions of judicialness are met
3. Jibran, not unlike Saleem Safi, Mujib Shami, Tahir Ashrafi and Orya Maqbool Jan, claims that now ASWJ will make a martyr out of Malik Ishaq. Are we now going to risk our lives based on the martyr standards of ASWJ? For whom Hitler, Saddam, Zarqawi etc are all martyrs.
4. This talk of “grace” and “dignity” is laughable when tens of thousands of Pakistanis have been brutally killled by the same ASWJ terrorists who are supported and enabled by none other than the Ashrafi or elitist liberals’ progressive icon, the Deobandi hate cleric Tahir Ashrafi. Where is the grace and dignity in that. Or where is the grace, dignity and honesty in comparing LeJ with Balochs or Shias?
Jibran Nasir has often made such ridiculous comparisons. The lucrative company of commercial liberals such as Beena Sarwar, Sethi and Ashrafi seems to have affected his integrity and analysis. It’s the same Beena Sarwar who is busy in a blsphemy-motivated campaign against Zaid Hamid.
Is some selective notion of grace and dignity more important for Jibran Nasir than basic intellectual honesty and sense of proportion?
By making such dishonest observations, isn’t Jibran also “inching closer” to the dishonesty of the same people who are routinely exposed by independent Sunni Sufi, Shia and other Pakistani activists?
Jibran Nasir is not alone. Saleem Safi, Tahir Ashrafi and other liberals and Deobandi-enablers too are currently acting as ASWJ apologists and enemies of Pakistani State by condemning Malik Ishaq’s murder and comparing Malik Ishaq to innocent and persecuted communities such as Shias, Sunni Sufis, Barelvis and Balochs.
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Yoosha Abul Hassan Gokal
Can we please leave Jibran Nasir out of this… ?
You don’t need to agree with all of his views but you cannot disrespect him. I have known him and seen him work. He is as sincere towards the cause as sincere gets. Cut him some slack and let him express his views without lashing out against him and using insulting labels for him.
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Ali Rizvi
Yoosha Abul Hassan Gokal, I don’t know what is more offensive – Jibran’s insensitive comments about harping about the extra judicialness of the death of an unrepentant mass murderer or this post. Which post incidentally, does not even use his real name most of the time – except when it is using his direct quotes.
FYI, comparing SMP with LEJ; no mention of ASWJ. Now that is offensive. what about the disrespect to the victims of aswj when some people harp on about “extra judicial” what are they expecting.
again no disrespect intended, but Jibran Nasir is being less than truthful about Malik Ishaq’s conviction record. He was convicted. and then the Supreme court of Iftikhar chaudhary overturned the conviction. Does Jibran really expect us to believe in the judicial system just because be is invested in it as a lawyer! This judiciary has been proven to be partial to sipah sahaba. have you not read the links.
Please, no one is stopping Jibran from expressing his views. Just as no one should stop LUBP from publishing articles critical of these “liberals” you have right to disagree just as others have right to express their reservations with Jibran’s activism.
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Ali Abbas Taj
“Burbaad Karr-Do and his spineless colleagues belong to the Sethi school of journalism – where you don’t ask any hard questions or follow up responses. Where lies and hate speech go unchallenged!And where the most important facts are brushed under the carpet and where cheap sophistry reigns supreme!
After all, wasn’t it the same Friday Times Blog which allowed Tahir Ashrafi’s other ASWJ-LeJ comrade to get away with the claim that the genocide-inciting slogan “Kafir, Kafir, ……….” is the same thing as “Roti, Kapra aur Makan”!
Even a madrassa student is likely to challenge the Imam more than these jokers like Burbaad Karr-Do; whose subservience to the lies and nonsense being spouted by Tahir Ashrafi is a disgrace to journalism.”
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Ali Rizvi
Beena Sarwar, Jibran Nasir are now on the same page as Orya Maqbool Jan as far as Malik Ishaq is concerned. Both groups are using the same term “extra judicial” to protest the death of Malik Ishaq!
We were told that liberals and Jamaatis are opposites but increasingly it seems, they are on the same page these days! https://www.facebook.com/MuslimUnityPakistan/photos/a.335022769869173.76682.200356516669133/947650781939699/?type=1&theater
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Syed Hyder Ali Zaidi
شکر ہے یوشع صاحب نے بینا سرور کی وکالت نہیں کی۔ لگتا ہے صرف جبران ناصر سے دوستی ہے یوشع بھائی کی۔
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Syed Riaz Al-Malik Hajjaji
Ali Abbas Taj shame on you for publishing this blunt post which is critical of the pearls of wisdom of Jibran Nasir and Orya Maqbool Jan. Malik Ishaq has united the Taliban apologists and commercial liberals yet again – they are now the two layers of a delicious Oreo cookie who have sandwiched the tasty cream that is the legacy of Malik Ishaq!
We will not stand for this criticism against Jibran Nasir and Orya Maqbool just as we will not stand for the disrespect against Caliph Yazeed Bin Muawiya or General Zia ul Haq Shaheed! Yoosha Abul Hassan Gokal Mohammed Askari Chandeux Aay Zee
Of course, the disrespect argument argument does not apply to Syedna Ali and Bibi Fatima and Jibran’s friends are free to disrespect them just as they are free to mock, abuse and slander the icons and practices of faith communities facing genocide at the hands of Judicially-protected folks like Malik Ishaq.
Double standards yaaayyyyyeeeehhh!!!
I agree with Jibran Nasir – that we should have waited for a few thousand more Shias to be killed by Malik Ishaq, Ghulam Rasool etc so that Jibran Nasir’s beloved Pro Taliban Supreme Court judges could have fed Malik Ishaq some more tea and biscuits. After all, whats more important – the pretence and farce of this Judiciary or the lives of a few thousand more Shias.
I stand with Jibran Nasir who is so concerned about how ASWJ-LeJ will make a martyr out of Malik Ishaq – seeing that they have already made martyrs out of Yazeed, Banu Ommayad, Banu Abbas, Saddam Hussain, Zarqawi, Osama Bin Laden, Baitullah Meshud, Lal Masjid etc etc
I agree with Jibran Nasir when he talks about the lack of grace and dignity amongst Shias, Ahmadis, Sunnis and Christians celebrating Malik Ishaq’s death. I request Jibran Nasir to write a post condemning Quentin Tarantino’s “Inglorious Basterds” for the same lack of “grace and dignity” in portraying Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels and their violent deaths.
It is so much better to be intellectually dishonest and maintain double standards with a straight face. It is so much better to ensure that we do not fail in our “grace and dignity” in a society like Al Bakistan where the “grace and dignity” are alive and well in the age of #ShiaGenocide!
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Syed Riaz Al-Malik Hajjaji
When Jibran Nasir and Orya Maqbool Jan both condemn the death of Malik Ishaq using the same script of “extra judicial”
Please help me in supporting the pearls of wisdom of Jibran Nasir and Orya Maqbool Jan. Malik Ishaq has united the Taliban apologists and commercial liberals yet again – they are now the two layers of a delicious Oreo cookie who have sandwiched the tasty cream that is the legacy of Malik Ishaq!
We will not stand for this criticism against Jibran Nasir and Orya Maqbool just as we will not stand for the disrespect against Caliph Yazeed Bin Muawiya or General Zia ul Haq Shaheed!
Of course, the disrespect argument argument does not apply to Syedna Ali and Bibi Fatima and Jibran’s friends are free to disrespect them just as they are free to mock, abuse and slander the icons and practices of faith communities facing genocide at the hands of Judicially-protected folks like Malik Ishaq.
Double standards yaaayyyyyeeeehhh!!!
I agree with Jibran Nasir – that we should have waited for a few thousand more Shias to be killed by Malik Ishaq, Ghulam Rasool etc so that Jibran Nasir’s beloved Pro Taliban Supreme Court judges could have fed Malik Ishaq some more tea and biscuits. After all, whats more important – the pretence and farce of this Judiciary or the lives of a few thousand more Shias.
I stand with Jibran Nasir who is so concerned about how ASWJ-LeJ will make a martyr out of Malik Ishaq – seeing that they have already made martyrs out of Yazeed, Banu Ommayad, Banu Abbas, Saddam Hussain, Zarqawi, Osama Bin Laden, Baitullah Meshud, General Zia ul Haq, Lal Masjid etc etc and by logical extension Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Himmler.
I agree with Jibran Nasir when he talks about the lack of grace and dignity amongst Shias, Ahmadis, Sunnis and Christians celebrating Malik Ishaq’s death. I request Jibran Nasir to write a post condemning Quentin Tarantino’s “Inglorious Basterds” for the same lack of “grace and dignity” in portraying Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels and their violent deaths.
It is so much better to be intellectually dishonest and maintain double standards with a straight face. It is so much better to ensure that we do not fail in our “grace and dignity” in a society like Al Bakistan where the “grace and dignity” are alive and well in the age of #ShiaGenocide!
(For my Non- Pakistani friends, Malik Ishaq was the Pakistani equivalent of Osama Bin Laden, Abu Musab Zarqawi, Himmler and Goebbels)