Do we need parental guidance on blogging? An open letter to Pak Tea House and Pakistani blogging community – by Ali Raja
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Only thing sad about jokes is that they are always taken as jokes. One way or the other all the jokes are either a critical reflection of the society or a precautionary warning of what is to come ahead. What ever they are in a 19:20 proportion; all of them are heard, laughed at, passed on and forgotten. In vain goes the creativity of someone who had some other ends in his head. “Gulliver’s Travels” by Jonathan Swift or “Yes Minister” by Antony Jay, all were welcomed by roars of laughter but unfortunately this roar was loud enough to bury the “message inside” six feet under.
Let me touch another “laughed at”, “forgotten” joke.
“Once there was an old man and his son who left for a journey with an ass along with them. The father was riding the ass and the son was walking aside. People criticized the father for being unkind to the child. The son started to ride the ass but was soon criticized for being disrespectful to the father. Both started to ride the ass simultaneously and were criticized for being harsh to the poor animal. They lifted the ass on their shoulder and were criticized for their stupidity. Finally the fellows decided to throw the ass down a river and proceed.”
For years and years we have laughed at the father and his son, and their stupidity but have missed the token of wisdom they had tried to toss. In their stupid little tale, they had actually given a cost free advice to intellectuals like us. “If you don’t know how to manage your ass, better throw it down the river rather than let others tell you what to do.”
It would be a waste of time writing on the blogging community of Pakistan, its role, its objectives and its achievements. This fact lies beyond any doubt that blogging in Pakistan has achieved more than what any one could dream off. In a very short span of time blogging has become a source of knowledge for the youth of Pakistan. From executive decisions to constitutional petitions, each and every aspect of our political life has been discussed on several Pakistani blogs.
Commoners like me got a chance to compare the point of view of intellectuals in an on going debate and decide for themselves what is just. Each and every person attained the same privilege and no one sided run down was seen.
Blogging in Pakistan has surely transformed itself into a third faction media and is giving a tough competition to the press and electronic sides of it. Blogging in Pakistan has attained a status that makes the Media-Tycoons gash their teeth over the Television and I still remember that besides differences within, the Blogging community stood side by side when oppressed.
Unfortunately it seems that the winds have now started to blow the other side. The performance graph now seems to have touched its peak and is declining back to dirt.
I still remember the 80’s when the rocket of World Wide Web took off from the ground. It took off well and then there was no looking back. Planets, stars and galaxies. The www world did not know where to stop. There seemed to be no pauses in this movie but that was not all going on over the set.
On one hand, when www was becoming a brand name for access to knowledge, on the other hand pornographers had just laid their hands over the new medium of distribution. Within days of its launch the Internet was flooding with material inappropriate for a gentleman and unbearable for a parent. Sensing what now lies on the computer, parents filled petitions over the Internet requesting a halt to this business but all in vain. They finally decided to keep their lads away from the computers and Internet. This wasn’t it, they moved to the courts of law and managed to obtain a verdict.
This is when Parental Guidance was enforced over the world wide web and websites were tagged as “sexually offensive” thus demanding the viewer to affirm his or her age and willingness. Alas!!! Those geniuses behind the Internet did not get that good old joke. Their ass went out of control and they did not throw it down the river thus making others decide for them.
Unfortunately some Pakistani blogs seem to have reached that brink of chasm too.
It is a stupid little story with an ugly outcome.
Two well respected, autonomous and liberal blogs LUBP and Pak Tea House happened to fall in a healthy discussion over the issue of “Sherry Rehman”.
Though a “Party Decision” was something “must follow” for Sherry Rehman but views started to erupt. On one hand there were people recalling her services for her party and democracy thus condemning all that had taken place. On the other hand there were people insisting party discipline as they were aware of the what Gulam Muustafa Khar had done in the past by violating party discipline. Both sides were well argued and well spoken. Both blogs wrote critical of each other which is very much a characteristic of a healthy debate.
LUPB even published articles critical of itself from Pak Tea House team and argued on stances and counter stances.
This is when a guy with the name Yasser Latif Hamdani (aka YLH) jumped in. His arguments were very loosely packed and lacked literate touch but for the reason that he was a PTH editor, his articles were given place at the headline arena of LUBP and counter-arguments were placed.
Same happened on the 8th day of November 2010 when one of his PTH articles was given a place at the headline arena and its deconstruction began by the LUBP team and visitors. As I have already stated that YLH’s level of intellect is bellow average therefore he could not take a firm stance by what he had stated and indulged into a personal war.
In this self centered war, YLH completely forgot that he was actually arguing with a lady, and was representing his blog PTH. “Sarah Khan” one of the co-founders of the the blog and a very well respected Critical Analyst at the LUBP. In a trilateral discussion with “Sarah Khan”, “Ali Arqam” and “Muhammad Ali (my self)”, he steeped down to the very basic level of intellect that he owns. Stated below are some of the very valuable comments of a PTH editor from the post: The (misplaced) wrath of the LUBP hardliners – by Yasser Latif Hamdani:
Who appointed you Sarah Khan defender of the president’s honor. Was it your baap Shahi Syed?
Shahi Syed is your baap… and Ali Arqam Durrani is thoku
Teri bund mein lund bhenchod… tum madarchodon ko pata nahin hai kay tumhari meein kahan kahan gaandh maroon ga haramzado
Because Gashti kay bachon you know precisely your real auqaat… Bhen chods.
Laanti ki aulaad
Teri maaan ko lund kuti kay bachay… wahan sohrab goth mein apni gaandh marwatay ho
Madarchods I will teach you a lesson you will never forget…
Munafiq Mian Tufail is your baap ….
My family has fought against the Jamaaat Islami longer than Sarah Khan has been sucking Qazi Hussain Ahmed’s cock.
like Ali Arqam Madarchod
These are just glimpse of what happened over the LUBP. The core architect of this shit-hole was none other than a guy enlisted as a an editor of Pak Tea House.
I have no idea if it seems to be offensive to Raza Rumi and his team at PTH or are they in a habit of carrying a political debate in this manner but for us at LUBP and the blogging community it was the most shameful vulgar conversation one has ever entered into.
In case the PTH team and Raza Rumi are not habitual of such language in their every day conversation, I would like to tell them their dearest editor has not just erupted but has a habit of using such language with debaters and ladies. Here are some examples from his beautiful past:-
If third rate chttiyas like him….
I am giving you and that ass hole…
Those Kamminaies and Kuttys
It is very evident, Mr. Raza Rumi and PTH, that even you have not learned from that little old joke. You are unable to manage your ass and it has gone wild, braying at the top of his throat. In case you come to feel that his language was a bit “below moral grounds” I will request you to “throw the ass down the river”.
To Mr Raza Rumi, It is my sincere request that you remove his name from the PTH editors list and publish a disclaimer on your homepage announcing your dissociation with his level of conversation. You must state that his style and manner of debate is not an official style and manner of debate of PTH.
You must reaffirm that you still abide by the code of conduct you claim to have set in your blog which states that “Pak Tea House is a little corner in the blogosphere that will endeavour to revive the culture of debate, pluralism and tolerance.” As Mr. Yasir Lateef Hamdani does not fulfill this requirement therefore he does not reserve the right hold the editorial pen.
I will request all the Pakistan based Bloggers to “throw the ass down the river ass well”, and publish a disclaimer on their blogs condemning the incident, confirming their respect for women, affirming a commitment to civilized debate, and affirming that abusive behaviour will not be tolerated in any case by all Pakistani blogs.
It is about time that we bloggers throw our asses down the river and not wait for a time when parents restrict their children from pornogrphic websites and Pakistani blogs. We must not wait for a time when a court issues a verdict making “Parental Guidance: Offensive Material Expected” mandatory before our blogs.
I hope we learn from that little joke!
I hope that the blogging community does take a notice of this petition and clear the Pakistani Blogs from scum like that!!!!
If not I think many like me would like to leave blogging!!!!Yellow journalism is far better than this scum at least it doesn’t involve mothers and sisters into discussion!!!!
I hope if not resolved Ali Arqam and Abul Nishapuri would have the courage to deal the matter under cyber crimes act.
I was away from the blog for last two weeks. Just accessed LUBP and I am surprised to see the posts of PTH against LUBP. YLH can’t do this consistently without RR’s consent. Raza should take a serious notice if he want to make a peaceful atmosphere within blogging community otherwise the perspective of bloggers will be ruined. YLH shows his cheapness by using abusive words against Ali Arqam and especially Sarah Khan, atleast he should be careful while using such language against a women. (YLH should be kicked out from this profession).
***KHASS KAMM JAHAAN PAK***
I agree with Ali Raja ‘It is about time that we bloggers throw our asses down the river and not wait for a time when “Parents restrict their children from pornogrphic websites and Pakistani blogs.” We must not wait for a time when a court issues a verdict making “Parental Guidance Saying:-Offensive Material Expected” appear before our blogs.
Its strange how these so called liberal and intellectuals using this ghatia language .
typical paindo mentality specially when it comes to respect of woman
Let everyone show their worth no ban upon anyone just let every blog reader adjust according to his prefrences.
This gutter language is no alien to any pakistani man or woman, who ever ventured out of their privacy i mean houses or vehicles so why rule this out even most of hardcore mullahs use this language, however we all hate it SO people would also hate this in blog world and those who wont, they also have their right of choice.
It’s a suggestion though plz dont deprive us from poor ass.
YLH claims to be a liberal whereas his moral standing is even below the fundamentalists!!!!!Bloggers must show that moral and ethical value that is the virtue of every gentleman!!!
Read from bottom to top:
Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@Cynical_Slob @abdulnishapuri clearly you are not mentally alright
Pandey @Cynical_Slob
@theRealYLH whats with you ordering people around ? Stay away from twitter if so mindful about your privacy. @abdulnishapuri
Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@Cynical_Slob the personal attacks started with @abdulnishapuri who accuses secularists and liberals of being ISI agebts.
Pandey @Cynical_Slob
@theRealYLH DUDE, who uses language like that ? Whats with the lawyers in pakistan ? Why have they all gone nuts ? @AbdulNishapuri
Abdul Nishapuri @AbdulNishapuri
@Cynical_Slob Our friend has a history of abusive tweets. http://criticalppp.com/archives/28745 He is duly placed in the Block list.
4m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@Cynical_Slob if you dont know the context stay out of it. @abdulnishapuri
6m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@saoodhassan @abdulnishapuri doesnt give a damn about human rights. he is a nameless coward who attacks those fighting for human rights
Abdul Nishapuri @AbdulNishapuri
Do we need parental guidance on blogging? An open letter to Pak Tea House & Pakistani blogging community – by Ali Raja
7m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@atifahmads @abdulnishapuri @naeemshamim my only advice dont be deceived by crooks like nishapuri and aliarqam types.
8m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@atifahmads @abdulnishapuri @naeemshamim i have known these ISI funded double agents like nishapuri and @aliarqam for a while
10m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@atifahmads @abdulnishapuri @naeemshamim not with their puppet nishapuri around. he exists to thwart liberals from allying
17m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
People like @AbdulNishapuri think they can bark and impugn reputations in the cover of anonymity. well you are a crook and nothing more
19m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@AbdulNishapuri @atifahmads @naeemshamim same here. dont tag me this nameless aab para puppet who is a crook
21m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@AbdulNishapuri very mature. sach karwa hai. i have reliable information that your strings end in aab para. you are a blackflag
Abdul Nishapuri @AbdulNishapuri
@atifahmads @naeemshamim Please don’t tag that person with me again. Thank you.
22m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@atifahmads @abdulnishapuri @naeemshamim sadly both these brave ahmadi muslim brothers have been detracked by Mr Nishapuri
23m Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@AbdulNishapuri @atifahmads @naeemshamim your biggest problem mr nishapuri is your focus on semantics. hence i dont consider u significant
Abdul Nishapuri @AbdulNishapuri
@atifahmads Those misrepresenting #ShiaGenocide as a sectarian or ethnic issue are not our fellow travellers. @naeemshamim @theRealYLH
Yasser Latif Hamdani @theRealYLH
@atifahmads @naeemshamim @AbdulNishapuri Unfortunately some friends are in habit of calling fellow travellers (liberals) as ISI agents.
Atif S Ahmad @atifahmads
Persecuted grps shld b united agnst Mullahs n like minded parties as always advocated by @naeemshamim @AbdulNishapuri @theRealYLH #Pakistan
Though many are surprised at this level and type of discourse, this kind of behaviour is typical of many prominent Pakistani bloggers and ‘Twitterati’ not just this Hamdani person.
A year back or so I used to have a peek in Pak Tea House as I am myself a writer and often write on current affairs. So it is but natural that visiting blogs and sites of current affairs out of blue one gets some good points for one’s own write up. What I saw there, every second article is about Mr. Jinnah (Quaid-e-Azam). My inquesitive nature made me read some of these articles and I realized that this site is designed to prove that Quaid-e-Azam was not a real author of Pakistan, Quaid-e-Azam was the agent of English crown blah blah. When I tried to argue in comment section I was confronted by some Indian users. I then realized the PTH is a site with some design not in favor of our country.
I think this is not the first time that those Don Quixotes of PTH are smoking against LUBP. One year back there was some hard debate going on and perhaps admin of LUBP had blocked YLH or likes of him and he was parking like a mad dog in its own lane (PTH). From that moment on I left visiting PTH for good.
The naked language used by whosoever, clearly tells the other readers that the abuser has no logic in his store that is why he has resorted to this meanest tactics. When I meet such ranting stupid on web, I have one sentence for them “returned with thanks”. So, nothing to worry about, who is on the losing side, who is falling down in electronic media rating, any person of common sense can tell. By the way, I never rate Raza Rumi as a good writer. It is the substance that matters which he lacks big time. Fine feathers does not make a fine bird.
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