Shame on you Talat Hussain!
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On Syed Talat Hussain, Angelina Jolie and Pakistan’s pseudo-liberals
The article instead of taking the valid approach taken by many bloggers and columnists, whereby they portray Jolie as an objective outsider, who has more sympathy than those who hold positions of power chooses to takes a shocking alternative route. He chooses to portray Angelina Jolie as a characterless, good-for-nothing and sham actress, who had her acting career propelled by the casting couch in the wake of her lack of appeal and her publicly confessed bi-sexual orientation. He further declares her adoption of kids as a cover up for her past life and concludes the article by pointing out that even such a lowly person had more sense than our politicians.For those who cannot comprehend Urdu, a summarized translation follows each paragraph.
The opening paragraph introduces Angelina Jolie as a Hollywood actress, hints at her scandalous life and comments on her ever present contempt for social norms. She had (sexually) matured early (read slut), however, being ugly was a complete failure in the acting world.
She took to political-marriages to advance her career, fully utilizing each opportunity that came her way. Her thirst for success was devoid of any limitations so much so that she has contravened every value that forms the basis of a society’s morality. The highlight of her continuous social experimenting is her self-professed stint at sapphism.
To blackout her ‘past’ Angelina Jolie has taken to adopting an ‘assortment’ of kids. This was publicized by her PR managers so effectively that despite want of ethics in general and Eastern values in particular she was made the United Nations Goodwill Ambassador. If you doubt my stance open up the Constitution of Pakistan and turn to Article 62 and 63 which dictates the need for people to be good character, to not violate Islamic values, avoid sinfulness, be sagacious etc. Our notion is based on the principle that be they Muslims or Non-Muslims, people with lack of (good) qualities as Angelina Jolie should remain disgraced at all times. Had she been in Pakistan she would have been (rightfully) stoned to death multiple times.
But even a movie star, drenched in westernism had the decency to realize that inconveniencing flood affected people with protocol is inhumane. She recounts in her UN report that in such dire times the house of the Prime Minister had a lavish feast followed by a private in-flight by the PM’s family. The report is a slap in the face (of Pakistani leadership). For what reason?! This Hollywood actress would be feeling more honored than her Honorable hosts.
After reading the article apart from the fact that I fail to see the purpose of the same, I am appalled at the writer’s way of thinking. His obsession to impose Eastern values on Ms Jolie is beyond me and so is his persistence in alleging that she continually contravenes Western values, known only to Mr Talat Hussain himself. He does not find Ms Jolie attractive (for that I can only pity you Sir), makes an evil vicious witch out of her for being an actress and having scandals probably every person in Hollywood has.
He also has problems with her adoption of kids and more than anything her being selected as the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees Goodwill Ambassador. He is so spiteful of the superstar’s appointment (due to her having no feathers in her cap bar some acting), that he did not even bother to look up the purpose of such appointments, which is to ‘use their talent and fame’ to advocate the cause of refugees.
One can understand Mr Hussain’s compassion for Islamic values but the same values dictate him to refrain from thrusting them on non-Muslims let alone giving fatwas against them for not obeying the Islamic code. However, what is not understandable is the disappearance of this compassion when Taliban are going on a rampage bombing mosques, men and boys go missing in Balochistan and barbershops are forcefully shut down in the tribal areas and when the Lal Masjid’s moulvis issue threats of suicide bombings and kidnap police personnel.
The article takes the thanklessness and paranoia that permeate certain sections of our society to a whole new level. Saner voices should prevail if the society is to prosper, therefore it is imperative to condemn Mr Talat Hussain’s slanderous article against a person who came to help the people of Pakistan in their time of need. Thank you Angelina Jolie and walk away Talat Hussain with your head hung in shame.
Originally posted at Green Goat’s Hide.
Shame indeed.
An eminent member of the Ghairat Brigade, Syed Talat Hussain is, unfortunately, a trusted ally of our saviours in khakis and has all of his venom reserved for Pakistani politicians.
Toilet aaj would never tolerate a famous beauty for she reminds him of his sexual failures.He would rant and rave against PPP politicians because he loves to disfigure good, great and beautiful just like those unfortunate childless ladies who would bathe in blood of childern in order to beget a child.he uses Islam as a smoke screen to hide his self-hatred and hatred of good,great and beautiful.I translate few verses of great Waris Shah written for people like toilet aaj.
Sorry for poor translation but it hits the mark.
nobody could compose a song like tan sen(a great musicision)even if they bring thousands of street singers.
The sweepers would never know holy places for all they know is shit.
The women who give birth in wilderness would never respect midwives.
Well -fed donkey-men love to sniff the armpits of stranger girls.
Talat Hussain is a man of the ISI and according to a blogger member of a Freemason-like secret brotherhood, led by Zaffar Abbas of Dawn. So what can you expect from a dishonest puppet of the agencies.
Yes shame on you Talat because you tried to show a mirror to the PM, who unfortunately belong to PPP.Anyone who criticises a ppp leader, you people start binding him with either ISI or some mulla brigade.You people seems to be ‘Pevatar’pure just because of promoting secular ideas?
Is extravagences of public money is not a crime.Has our PM not used PM house in the marriage of his daughter? Has he not written off 450 million pkr personal loans?
I am disappointed that Mr Talet Hussain criticises personal life of Miss AJ, and then generalises to our politicians.
What is the difference between those wo call secular supporters as agents of CIA, and when we call them men of ISI and mulla brigade.
There are hard realities on the ground.I hope this forum would not support those who just want to take advanatge of a just cause.And we must convey our message with logic instead of just using abusive language and satisfying ourselfs by just concluding them as men of ISI or some mulla brigade.
Dear Faisal
First part of your comment itself were filled with immaturity, lack of comprehension of simple English text, and then your advice to the forum to be logical applies first on you, read the article from the beinging, it clearly mentions that if someone wanna criticize PM for what “Tom Raider lady” has mentioned(I dont know whether the report is athentic or not), but here he has discussed what Talat, a member of TELE-BAN journalists.
4 Man Show hosts have rightly said about him, “Shakal se bhaley hi TAIL bechne wala lagta hei par heiy tou hamara director news hi”
Excellent expose….
Its the way to deal such idiots, the Islamic injunctions he mentions has clearly stated, anyone with no beard or or having it with no appropriate length is commiting a Major Sin, i.e Gunah kabeera, hence titled as FASIQ-O-Faajir.
What about you Mr. Talat
And another painful fact.
Being part of Shia Community, he never had any talk show or column against the brutalities against them, he should ask the interpreters of Islamic principles, whether he himself in the eyes of these Mullahs is considered Muslim or not, and for the alleged Blasphemies against Sehaba, he and his fellow Shias(as me) has the right to live in peace.
Ayk zamaanah tha keh kaee loag Talat kay aashiq thay. Küch din pahlay Israel vaali kashti mayñ ünn ka hona ham sab kay liyay pareshaan kün tha. Vaapas aanay kay baad ünn kay hosh-o-havaas ü∂ gaé aur ab voh ‘isi’ qism ki baatayñ karnay lagay haéñ. Afsos …
Worth readings post on Talat Hussain to have a complete perspective on this ‘brilliant’ ISI asset:
Three pictures, a column and the mindset of Syed Talat Hussain
http://criticalppp.com/archives/5977
Written by the ISI, adapted by Syed Talat Hussain – by Abdul Nishapuri
http://criticalppp.com/archives/17407
Clinton’s encounter with media and Talat Hussain’s $640 million mistake
http://criticalppp.com/archives/1576
An open letter to Talat Hussain: Will you lead a Freedom Flotilla to stranded Shias in Pakistan’s Gaza, Parachinar?
http://criticalppp.com/archives/12380
Farrukh Sohail Goindi’s letter about Syed Talat Hussain
http://criticalppp.com/archives/12747
Commenters expose Talat Hussain’s hypocrisy!
http://criticalppp.com/archives/9776
He is just Laanati. Laanat beshumar.
i really couldn’t understand Mr.Tallat’s point of view…
is he a journalist or Mufti,that can easily assign some one characterless or something els bla bla…
shame on u man
@Dil Dil Pakistan, please do not insult the Free Masons! The Free Masons have included visionary people, not touts like the Abbasi brothers, Talat Hussain and members of our ghairat brigade!
Saad! excellent post
2006’s Most Beautiful Star: Angelina Jolie
Traveling to earthquake-ravaged northern Pakistan last Thanksgiving, Angelina Jolie, then 30, boarded a private plane for the 20-plus-hour journey from Los Angeles without a single Louis Vuitton suitcase in sight. Instead, the actress-activist-object of Brad Pitt’s affection grabbed a lightweight field bag and, as she usually does, packed the bare minimum: one Pakistani dress and head cover (to honor local custom); one pair of sturdy boots (for mountain climbing to distribute blankets and food).
For the three nights she was in the field, Jolie – who was accompanied by Pitt, then 43, but left kids Maddox, then 4, and Zahara, then 16 months, back in town – was her typical low-maintenance self, sleeping on the frozen ground in a tent shared with three other workers and wearing the same clothes day after day. No hairbrush. No makeup. Not even a toothbrush. “She really blends in and is very unassuming,” says Guenet Guebre-Christos, representative in Pakistan for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, for which Jolie serves as a goodwill ambassador. “She could have passed for any other Pakistani person.”
The Jolie effect
By Kamran Rehmat | Published: October 25, 2010
Getting wobbly in the knees when meeting a beautiful woman may be some sort of a national vulnerability but acting funny before a global celebrity in the highest echelons of power, where the fare is ever so likely to find its way to a fifth column, betrays poor judgment, if anything.
Almost every time Tomb Raider flies into Pakistan, she makes pygmies out of Tarzans from the country’s political jungles…err offices, who bend over backwards to please her – for their gloss quotient.
However, instead of any remorse at this genuflection, one gets the impression it gives them a kick and only invites envy amongst those missing out on the glitz.
At this rate, Brad Pitt should consider providing an A-list protection, which he manfully did when the generalissimo was still around and the star couple went to the Army House for a courtesy call.
The next day’s papers showed us that Pitt had, in fact, placed his shoe tip on the edge of a table facing Musharraf, who had himself changed into ‘star’ gear – blue shirt, blue jeans, blue pullover!
Not to be left behind was Musharraf’s handpicked prime minister, the suave banker Shaukat Aziz. He made that now-legendary stroll in the sprawling Prime Minister House count by holding Jolie’s hands as “pleasantries were exchanged” – going strictly by official lingo. They provided the kind of glam shots, which set the bar for future chief executives.
But this is not to suggest the uber-cool Aziz always held his own. Indeed, a biographical account of former U.S. secretary of state Dr Condoleezza Rice provided a dish that a few irate (or jealous?) members of the upper house of Pakistan’s bicameral legislature found unpalatable enough to move a motion about.
The episode narrated by Twice As Good author Marcus Mabry from a March 2005 rendezvous bears repetition.
“When Rice sat down with Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, who fancied himself as a ladies’ man, Aziz puffed himself up and held forth in what he obviously thought was his seductive baritone.”
“He bragged – to Western diplomats, no less – that he could conquer any woman in two minutes,” Mabry claimed.
“(Mr Aziz) tried this Savile Row-suited gigolo kind of charm: ‘Pakistan is a country of rich traditions,’ staring in (Rice’s) eyes,” Mabry wrote, quoting a participant at the meeting.
“There was this test of wills where he was trying to use all his charms on her as a woman, and she just basically stared him down,” the author wrote.
“By the end of the meeting, he was babbling. It was palpable for the Americans. The Pakistanis were shifting uncomfortably. And his voice visibly changed.”
Back to Jolie. Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani must have felt like a million dollars at Jolie’s suggestion of a Hollywood career thanks to his “good looks” – as reported by U.S. Special Envoy on Pakistan Richard Holbrooke.
Sadly, the blushing premier is said to have responded with a whimper of a tired cliché: “I would prefer to serve the people of Pakistan over Hollywood.”
However, the prime minister appeared to have forgotten the very same people when he opened the VVIP gates of indulgence for Jolie and flew his family from Multan on a chartered flight to have albums framed for posterity.
Not done with the photo-ops, Jolie was then lavished with expensive gifts and invited to feast – to her great discomfort – on tables loaded with an enchilada of dishes that would have taken a couple of days to fully scan.
This appears to have turned the UN Goodwill Ambassador off to the extent she took an unprecedented step of pushing her parent world body to ask Pakistani leadership to mind their spendthrift ways at a time when one-fifth of the country is submerged in flood waters and millions uprooted from their homes.
A few years ago, the governor of the erstwhile Frontier province, in a comical display of star struck frenzy persisted with Jolie to cut his birthday cake when she went to meet him on an official visit.
Hoping to ward off the embarrassment by shaming him, the Hollywood superstar questioned why he wasn’t asking his spouse to do the honours, to which he is reported to have wryly said, was a routine thing!
Only the late Princess of Wales appeared to invite greater kitsch amongst Pakistani elite. When Lady Diana first came here, nineteen seasons ago, they clung to photo-ops with her like nobody’s business. Indeed, the joke was that anyone lucky to have shaken hands with her didn’t want to wash them afterwards.
Even Abdul Qadir, the Badshahi Mosque imam, who copped flak for showing the short-skirted princess around, dismissed the criticism of fellow clerics as a case of the green monster.
The writer is a former newspaper editor and columnist.
Hey i am Sorry i don’t know Talat Hussain but i am 100% agree with him in this article… and Always Shame on Pakistani Government… They are Loosers…. They are bla bla…. i Love Pakistan and the People of Pakistan but i really hate Paki Government… they are Sons of America and Dollars
I could not understand that why Talat Hussain wrote this article. What was the good of it and what was the reason behind it, I could not understand it at all.
@ FAISAL:
I think you have not read the article above or Talat Hussain’s article as well. I have not defended the Prime Minister’s lavish dinner or his family’s visit but it is very clear that the article is targeted towards Ms Jolie rather than Gilani.
Saad, Incomplete Introduction; This introduction ignores many great aspects of the Moulana Taltat Hussain, i.e a conspiracy theorist, an expert in twisting facts and figures, master in using slander, and filthy language especially against democratically elected civilian government and women- and most importantly he is one of a leading Taliban and Army apologist….
He rightly stated that he’s not Jolie’s admirer, yeah we know that you are [secret] admirer of Haqqani Group, Taliban , Al Qaeda etc
Really Shame on you Talat Hussain “Tum Angelina ke parion jese bhi nahin ho” Khud ko Pehchano Talat
Angelina Jolie in Pakistan to highlight needs of flood victims
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, September 7 (UNHCR) – UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador Angelina Jolie has been in Pakistan today, highlighting the suffering of millions of flood victims and the need for continuing aid for the displaced.
Jolie is travelling as the personal envoy of UN High Commissioner for Refugees António Guterres. On Tuesday she visited Mohib Banda village in northwest Pakistan’s Khyber Pakhtunkhwa region and areas near Peshawar, including the Azakhel Afghan refugee settlement and the Jalozai camp for internally displaced people (IDP).
“It’s clear this crisis is far from over,” she said. “People have lost everything: their homes, their belongings, their crops and cattle, and their livelihoods. Long after the cameras have gone, people will be struggling to rebuild their lives.”
Jolie’s visit is her fourth to Pakistan since becoming a UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador in 2001. She last visited in November 2005 following the devastating earthquake in northern Pakistan.
On Tuesday, she met people who had been directly affected by the floods, including in Mohib Banda, where some 70 per cent of the homes were destroyed or badly damaged by the swirling waters.
“We will never be able to afford the things we once had, never again,” an elderly man, Rehman Gul, told Jolie, as he pointed towards an old plastic fan amid the ruins of his former home. “Since the flooding, flies and mosquitoes are everywhere… all over the children, all over us, everything.”
When asked by Jolie to speak of her situation, Gul’s wife Zainul said: “How can I burden you with all the things we need. I feel embarrassed.” Jolie walked through the village, meeting with families and witnessing at first hand the loss and bewilderment.
“There was a small stream outside the broken homes. It was full of a mix of faeces, flies, old shoes and old clothes that had been recently washed into the water,” Jolie said.
The floods that first hit Pakistan in July have affected millions. “We must not forget flooding is not the only trauma plaguing this country,” she said.
“They are still rebuilding infrastructure from the earthquake of 2005. They continue to have large numbers of IDPs as a result of the conflict in the north, and host 1.7 million Afghan refugees who still need care and refuge as conflict continues in their homeland. And now, of course, the recent flooding and its aftermath already affecting millions and the looming threat of disease,” Jolie continued.
“One problem does not negate the other, one headline should not pull focus from the many complexities of the situation in Pakistan,” said the Goodwill Ambassador, stressing the need for continuing efforts to support those in need.
“Over the last three decades, Pakistan has been very generous in hosting what continues to be the largest refugee population in the world. It is now the Pakistani people themselves who are in need of large-scale assistance,” Jolie concluded.
UNHCR has delivered help to almost 750,000 people, but continued flooding in many areas of southern Pakistan is creating new challenges for relief efforts in what has already become one of the most complex humanitarian crises of recent times.
http://www.unhcr.org/4c8609926.html
Indeed Junaid, I hope Moulana Talat would not punish me with 60 lashes for not introducing him properly.
The article reminds me of Ms. Fauzia Wahab’s comments over Prim minister’s house expenses. They were like that “to kiya sadar Zardari and pm Gilani achay kapray pehennna chor dain q k awam ghareeb hai???”
People cannot understand Y PM invited Ms. Jolie on a royal feast while Pakistan was flooded. But people do have sense to discuss alleged denouncing of Jolie by Talat Hussain. I must declare, before others start bombarding me, that I am not the Talat guy or Jolie guy or PPP/MQM/ANP/JI guy, or Mushi one. I am ordinary person, who thought but don’t express much coz its useless to discuss over which we don’t have control.
Aurat Maa hoti hae, behan hoti hae, doost hoti hae, patni hoti hae, aur jab kuch nahin hoti to toauf(prostitute) hoti hae, (Dev Dass)…Magar Toauf kya aurat nahin hoti…???Kya use dil nahin hota, kya use pyar ka adhikar nahin hota….Kiyon Samaj ke thekedar us ki izzat nahin kerte…?
manawa mein mere aandhi hai uthi, bas stubdh khadi hoon main
saanson mein paar apani hi saans, nishabd khadi hoon main
duniya se jeeti jeeti, khud se haari bas dhwast khadi hoon mein
aaina main aur aks main, madmast khadi hoon main
laaga chunari mein daag chhupaau kaise
laaga chunari mein daag, chunari mein daag chhupaau kaise
ghar jaaou kaise, laaga chunari mein daag
cham cham cham cham jhanjhwaat, antar mein gunje divas raat
ek shunya shunya, tapti vishal, maaya ka madhyam mantra jaal
mann ki dasha se ladati main phirati vishwast khadi hoon main
mari laaj main hoon, chunar bhi main hoon, chunar pe daag bhi main
ho gayi maili mori chunariya, kore badan si kori chunariya – 2
jaake baabul se nazarein milaau kaise, ghar jaau kaise
laaga chunari mein daag chhupaau kaise – 2
main dhwast dhwast, main nasht mast, main saral viral main ativishti
main shaam shwet baadal me rate, nirjhar si jhari hoon main
andhiyaari raat deepak mein baat swapnil si bhari hoon main
kanchan ki kaaya apna hai saaya bas khud se ladi hoon main
lakadi mein gili thodi simi simi tham thamke chali hoon main
hai maaya maaya hai chhaaya chhaaya aatma par saaya main
nistubdh khadi hoon main, nishabd khadi hoon main
vishwast khadi hoon mein….. (laaga chunari mein daag)
laaga chunari mein daag…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ZpU31N6Es&feature=channel
@ Rehan: You are right that a number of politicians do lack empathy, Fauzia Wahab’s statement was highly insensitive and the proportion of such people seems to be considerably higher in this government.
Talat is not the first person to criticize the government on the matter, a number of columns and blogs have been written regarding the matter in almost all Urdu newspapers but this is the only one where Angelina Jolie seems to be the target.
The PM’s family picnic on public expense was wrong and cannot be defended.
Poor Talat! Your virtue is bull, and your morality is shit, and if you want to build a civilization out of that, do so, but leave me out of it. My civilization will approach when people stop pretending that the sight of a human unclothed threatens anybody. When Vice is used to identify actions that actually harm others rather than speech and actions that are merely found offensive to the insular, and when Disgrace is used to describe those who would attempt to force their personal hang-ups on everybody else. The future is now; Men And Women of the Future, do as you please, save it do no harm.
@ Saad Mansoor, faiq rizvi.
I again read the article,to confirm if had comprehend a wrong meaning.
In my post i condemned Talat for his character assassination of AJ.And taking a wrong approach to criticise PM.
But we all make mistake, it does not mean that we start making judgements, like, Talat belong to ISi or some mulla brigade.
Thanx
Talat Hussain is the part of the Taliban apoligists….one of the original “denialists” who perpetuated the myth that there are no Taliban …making his own contribution to the several hundred deaths by the suicide squads and the fanatics
I think he is trying to say that our rulers have an even worst character than angelina jolie.
Dear all, Why are you wasting your energies on such a non-issue? We may agree or disagree with him. This is one big problem that has plagued our nation: We are more obsessed with the personlities(like Talat now) and different faces at the expanse of real pressing issues.
Lets knock it off! What Talat thinks about Jolie shouldnt vex us more than the post-flood situation. We have to rebuild our country ourselves—
God bless you all!
A man (Talat) who has been a “keep” (rakhail) himself of his former female boss (a former editor and a former ambassador and former high commissioner) in his early days of his career, cannot respect other women, let alone respecting an accomplished actress!
great post, saad.
The so-called “Eastern values” produce Mukhtaran Mai and her “ghairatmand” tormentors; while the so-called “Western values” produce Angelina Joli and her likes. The choice is yours.
Talat (the toilet), being a “ghairatmand” himself obviously would choose the former. What he should do is to go to the flood-affected people who accepted money from AJ, convince them to be as “ghairatmand” as the toilet himself is, and return the money to the lady. He may compensate them from his own money or that of others from the “ghairat” brigade.
@Waqas:I think he is trying to say that our rulers have an even worst character than angelina jolie.
Here lies the problem. Who has given right to Talat or anyone to start disecting the character of Angilina or anyone whatever he may be. Cant we respect the indiviual and his/her personal life.
Taliban apologists are using moralistic approach to create hatred against their opponents and to have street justice one day as happened in Sialkot. Talat, hamid mir and javaid chaudhari, etc are the tools to misguid youths and poison the minds of the readers.
i would like to read this letter AJ wrote. can anybody point me to it.
I heard her interview on an internation tv channel. in the interview she was talking about the humanity and the integrity of pakistani people. she talked about hope and wished world would understand enormity of the disaster faced by pakistani people.
i dont know why people like TH are put on a pedestal. I think all of them have there own political leaning, which is fine by me. What we as people need to do is not to expose ourselves to their opinions without knowing thier bias and agenda. 🙂
Very disappointing to read such a venomous artilce about a Angelina who happens to be first person in the world to donate $100,000 (one hundred thousand dollars) from her own pocket for the flood affected people.
Not only that she lands in Pakistan, considered by many as the most dangerous place on planet earth, goes to Jehangirabad, sits with affected people and gets this from a main stream journalist of Pakistan. Many people, like me, had thought Talat Hussain was slightly better from the bunch of self styled prima donnas of Pakistan Media. But he is no exception. Bad luck Pakistan for throwing up such people.
Rafaqat
@Ahmed Iqbalabadi Sir, I totally agree with you. Talat Hussain and Zaffar Abbas and his brothers are really touts of the agencies but hardcore criminals… who can do anything to protect their jobs… just read this blog and you would be surprised: http://nblo.gs/9A3gA
Look at her
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3Xui6anM2bk/TMcxeg-5UpI/AAAAAAAAAbw/gu8n9cfXgtU/angelina_jolie_without.preview.jpg
Honesty is hard to digest.
People like talat hussain and so called molvi jornalists, like ansar abassi , irfan siddiqui etc are the tout of agencies.
these are psycho patients and sould be banned forever.
Dear All, If Talat Hussein has no right to say disgusting remarks against Angelina Jolie, which is not our bhabhi then you people have also no right or proof to call him “Toilet”, “Rakhail Keeper” calling his marality “Shit” and “laanti” or what so ever. You guys are calling your own country man these words just because of a hollywood actress? Is she ur Bhabhi? or what? She has been like this in reality, what ever he said i agree with him. The thing is he shudn’t have said it so bluntly, because our people do not have guts to swallow truth as some one rightly said “honesty is hard to digest”
I do understand what he MEANT to say and I guess u dear alls should too.
OK,first of all the author of this article should get his facts straight,when exactly did the lal masjid moulvis threaten suicide bombings,and oh wait you must be really happy now that they have been bombed by phosphorus chemicals-you are such pathetic people that your heart bleeds for a non-muslim, foreigner when criticized in a column but it is numb when seeing hundreds of young women die in the lal masjid,women who were pious,who were starved,whose electricity was shut down-whose QURANS were burnt…wow!i am appalled..and yes whose to say these suicide attacks are not being operated by blackwater,ever heard of it?of covert operations?and seriously who is Angelina Jolie,and why are you supporting her?The money she gave was peanuts,she just made an appeal for like what 2 mins?(probably for her own publicity),and really why be so two faced that to say nothing to the govt otherwise but when she gets back home she criticizes it..I am in no way supporting the govt,but really her remarks just discouraged donors from helping people,they didn’t cause harm to the govt,just the people because now no country will trust us with money.The govt is corrupt,everyone knows that Miss Jolie,but really you could have appreciated efforts of people like Edhi,Imran Khan,so many other people who were working for floods selflessly…i mean why pick the worst from the lot!why not just give money to Edhi?why not appreciate him?
And really supporting some foreign woman over talat hussain?How many programs has he done on the flood victims?how much time has he given and money has he collected along with Kashif Abbassi?whereas Miss Jolie came for like 4 days,tops-i dunno..and gave money that was really peanuts for her…like seriously are you people really trying to be liberal,or are you,or are you thick,but then again what can you expect from those who don’t care about hundreds of young girls and boys dying through phosphorus bombs?those who don’t fight for Afia Siddiqui but fight for this shameless woman.yes-shameless!(then again i think that’s why the guys are supporting her-hah,what a joke)
yaar gillani naay specialy apni family ko bulaiya to met her by using special plane..the dinner was expensive…baap ka maal hai gillani k…kaam ki baat ka jawab do
Congratulations. The Pakistani nation (or perhaps just it’s so called representatives) have once again proven that their most characteristic trait is, firstly, to not have the gall it takes to step up to the plate when the need is dire. And secondly, for those who do, their tirade of insults and attempts at degradation are impossible to quell. Are we so insecure, so pathetic, do we really feel so small that we need to bring other people down and stand on their shoulders to make ourselves feel bigger? The whole concept is sick.
Our media is not free, it’s wild. It needs to be muzzled.
Dear Sameera: the Lal Masjid cleric announced in his khutba on 20th April 2007 after his seven day deadline for imposing sharia had passed that there would be suicide bombings if the ‘unislamic regime’ does not do so.
Since it was a khutba he gave in front of hundreds of people, I am almost sure it is not someone else spreading lies on behalf of the Lal Masjid brigade.
The manner of conducting the operation was wrong too but it does not mean that Lal Masjid clerics were not terrorists.
As far as Angelina Jolie’s is concerned, she did you a favor that she was not required to, you say thankyou to that not disgrace her.
Miss Jolie represented the UNHCR, which has given and collected ten times what Talat Hussain did, so I think you need to correct that fact to. Plus her remarks were made public in Pakistani media alone, ‘according to sources’. The international media ignored them mostly.
Lastly, please read up the entire history of doctor Afia, plus your own ISI under General Kiyani handed her over to US with proofs of her involvement so if we believe her side of story that she was abducted by agencies she was convicted by proofs given by the ISI and Army, proofs given long time back in 2007.
@Democrat, aap bhee dinner par maujood thay? Kya aap nay woh plane uraya tha jis may Gilani kee family ayee thee? Kya aap unn kee drive kar rahay thay Islamabad Airport say PM house tak? Kya Angelina Jolie achanak PM say milnay gayeen theen? Kya PM kee family ko pata nahee tha kay woh aa rahee hogi?
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Kyaa aap nay iss saal eid par naye kapray banwaye thay yah khareeday thay? Aap kay ghar walon nay eid par kuch khareeda tha? Floods to issi saal eid say pehlay aye thay. Similarly ghurbat bhee maujood hay! Sach batiye ga!
Saad Mansoor-you are probably not from Islamabad,right?I live in Islamabad-and i have heard of a lot of things about the lal masjid.It was a place where people learnt the Quran,where poor boys and girls were given food and shelter.The way the media attacked them,called them terrorists was wrong,what ‘terror’ were they involved in exactly.I was here,i heard gunshots,saw smoke,i could smell the bombs thrown on them,and still you call ‘them’ terrorists,wow!your army were terrorists,your govt who bombed those boys and girls!and really was everyone there a terrorist,including the little girls-shame on you,shame on you that you support this angelina jolie but forget these people and call them terrorists,and yes about afia siddiqui-whoever was involved in her kidnapping,detention did wrong,whether it was the ISI,the army or whoever..
I don’t know what statistics you are following when you say angelina jolie collected 10 times more than talat hussain.First of all she’s an intl celebrity,of course she collected more money,whereas talat is what,yes just a journalist and people of Pakistan gave him that money because they trust him with their money.Whereas Angelina Jolie,gets how much money per movie?exactly 10 times more than she donated right? So actually Talat gave a lot more than she did.he gave more time,he gave to the event.And really if the whole of America isn’t defending Miss Jolie,why is our nation becoming so hyper and defending her?and over who,a fellow citizen who used free speech to bash a shameless hollywood actress who really cares about her publicity more than flood victims,who shows an untrue picture of Pakistan in her movie(where she played Marianne Pearl),who really did not,i repeat did not do a favour for us by coming here.Listen up real good,Only God does favours for us,only God can help us,Only God should be relied on for help not some famous hollywood actress OK!and yes the words of the lal masjid people were totally twisted around and presented in a wrong way!They cleared misconceptions a million times and no you just had to bomb them because ‘they’ were terrorists,funny that they were bombed although they were terrorists?doesn’t make sense,but then again the whole nation jumping on to support Miss Jolie doesn’t make sense either…
And here’s what’s funny…these people are criticizing talat for saying things about her character,whereas……
hmm in this comments page alone,he’s been called lannati,baigharat,Talat (the toilet),part of mullah brigade…like seriously pot,kettle black.Yes,and on other articles people were saying that he’s mental or because Angelina Jolie ignored him that’s why he wrote this..seriously aren’t you attacking his personality now?hypocrites,2 faced!and do you even know what a moulvi or mufti is?a scholar,a man who follows his deen,and really the people who defame our religion are a small minority..it’s funny no one mentions how maulana tariq jamil also was threatened with suicide attacks or what about the scholars killed in Karachi?
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Ms Sameera, there were hundreds of women and children in Lal Masjid, in fact if you don’t know I can tell you that there were many children orphaned from the 2005 earthquake who had been sent to the Lal Masjid madrassa so government doesn’t have to take care of them. But nothing gives the Ghazi brothers to threaten the people of Pakistan, kidnap policemen or chines masseurs. All these things are crimes. In fact they are treason when done to this effect.
That was collateral damage but getting rid of ghazi brigade was a necessity. If army conducted it badly its their inefficiency and you can blame them. Also, I think you know that it wasn’t my favored government. All those folks at Lal Masjid walked hand in hand with Musharaf until they over estimated their power.
Talat Hussain is a Pakistani who by the way has done more damage to the country by projecting a bad image of the country in the international media along with the rest of the media channels. Most international articles regarding the government’s corruption originate from local press, not international one which were instrumental in low donations. Angelina Jolie is not obliged to do anything for you and when she did its a favor.
Please also correct your thoughts, God helps those who help themselves and he does not ask you to stop working for a good cause or helping each other.
I know what a mufti and mulla is and the Maulana Tariq Jamil refuses to come out against suicide bombings so why should anyone care to mention that he to has been threatened. If these are activities of Indians it should be easy for Tariq Jameel and Taqiuddin Usmani to come out against them but they openly refuse to do so.
Your misconceptions about the terrorist female scientist of Pakistan are consistent with Pakistani media’s side of story but even that side does not highlight the fact that after being allegedly kidnapped Dr Afia visited her uncle’s house in Islamabad or somewhere, Doctor Afia’s mother refused to deny this statement on Hamid Mir’s capital talk. In fact when Hamid Mir asked whether she holds Musharraf responsible she did not answer and started criticizing PPP government and the then Chairman Senate Mr Soomroo. So I request you to read the other side of story and then reach a decision.
Lastly, what people call Talat is their will, but what a journalist writes about someone in a paper is publics to comment on and constitutes defamation if wrong or insulting. None the less I think they should be civil at all times.
Again,my question you don’t live in isb,do you?i have facts,videos,documents about the lal masjid,who caused the issue,who was involved and who played what role..and Ulema have always always came out and condemned suicide bombings-you’re ignorant if you don’t know that because as a follower of these scholars i know they have condemned suicide bombings,so again get your facts straight!and seriously who is angelina jolie to you?her money really means nothing she can take it back,if it’s that big a favour! and when did he project a bad image of the country and do you not deny that angelina jolie did that in her movie which obviously received more coverage than an ordinary journalist!
it’s really funny how much you’d support a foreigner over a fellow citizen..really!who is she to you again?
afia siddiqui on the other hand EVEN if guilty has spent years in jails in Afganistan and God knows where-how dare you?are you not ashamed that you speak of her in this way,you speak of ulema in this manner and then you speak of angelina jolie in a respected manner as if she is your sister,your mother…tsk,tsk,tsk…And yes angelina jolie is shameless…i’ll repeat that!
So the Lal Masjid moulvi did not threaten with suicide bombings, someone else made him say that in the Juma Khutba? They never kidnapped anyone and did not issue ultimatums to government for implementation of sharia?
And ulemas condemn individual attacks when asked to issue a fatwa against suicide bombings in general or even against civilians they refuse. The two names I took are probably the few of the most influential ones and they refuse to do so.
Lastly, I have been taught to support the right side. If a guest comes over to my place and I misbehave my parents would slap and ground me not support me because you support your own.
So if Talat Hussain crossed every ethical line I’m not going to support him and Afia Siddiqui spent years in jail but she has been convicted for longer, at least they didn’t hand her the death penalty which she could have gotten. Please read up on her to reach a verdict.
PS: So according to you we should support Pakistanis even if they are wrong? Do you apply the same on Zardari?
Angelina has proven herself voice of the nation. Thanks Angelina for exposing the guttermind aka Talat Hussain!
All wat Talat Hussain has written, i do not think is any thing that we do not already know about ms. Jolie.
She is all what he tells n we have her own confessions on record to prove tht.
i just read both the urdu and the english texts. the point he makes is actually quite different from what the baboon who wrote this criticism would have you believe. all talat says is that this woman, even though her idea of morality is questionable, has the sense to know that the suffering of the flood affectees is not as flippant a matter as the pakistani government’s response makes it seem. he doesn’t care if she …women or not, but that it’s a matter of shame for the pakistani govt to have been in a position that somebody who is reputed to be a cut-throat profiteer could feel affronted by what’s going on here. it would be nice if you actually started reading shit before shooting your mouths off.
HAVE U ALL LOST IT????? DON’T U GET WHAT HE IS TRYING TO PORTRAY???? HE JUST EXPLAINED THE FACTS, THEN HE ELABORATES THE PLACE OF HER MORALS IN OUR SOCIETY AND FINALLY HE CONCLUDES THAT EVEN IF SHE HAS SUCH LOW MORAL STANDING ACCORDING TO OUR VALUES YET SHE IS COMPASSIONATE ENOUGH TO FEEL THE MISERY OF OUR FLOOD EFFECTED PEOPLE, THE COMPASSION THAT OUR LEADERS LACK….THE PURPOSE IS NOT TO DEGRADE JOLIE BUT TO HIGHLIGHT THE MEANNESS OF OUR LEADERSHIP…
GROW UP PEOPLE..
And saad mansoor…The hypothesis on which you are making the arguments is not correct. You are building your argument on the supposition of might is right or the opressor has the right to opress.
It seems that contention of writer is that it was fair to spend 3.5 Million on chartered flight just to make a photo shoot with celebrity at that crucial time!
The inferences of this article are that the officials have done wrong thereby arranging a feast of this type for Angelina at that time. Now it is up-to the readers, how they conclude their own opinion.
Its a response to all talat hussain haters that just stop barking.Talat hussain is the icon of pak media and honest journlist and anchor.
SHAME on the people who hates Pakistan’s brave hero Talat Hussain and are criticizing him because he wrote article again PPP govt.
The real fact is Zardari is the BIGGEST shame, who being President of Pakistan flyed to America when Pakistan people were flooded by history’s most devastating flood!
This is really a big SHAME, when Zardari said “Waday quran hadees nahi hotay jo taurdiye to gunaah hogaya”
ALL PPP leaders will surely go in hell and Allah will burn them in hell but before that I pray Allah punish them for their every sin.
Don’t forget every man who is corrupted is actually GADAR of Pakistan, and Zardari and his team is on top in Gadar’s list!
above commentators need to pay attention to the very assence of Tallat’s column but i can not expect this from someone who’s intellectual level is not that high.
Govt paid columnists and writers are at the loose to make assaults on an honest and patriotic journalist like Tallat Hussain who’s in depth knowledge and passion has given hopes and asparations to millions of Pakistanis.
What Angelina Jolie has done in the name of humanity is not a main issue or point of debate but what is more critical is the motive of UN and then more debatable is the act of our pathetic PM and his family.
I am living in UK and Simple Angelina na jo kuch kia us ka past it was pretty normal for her but not in our society. But Sharam tu waqaye mae PPP or Government ko aney chaheye ka ak Actress jis ka asa past or character hai wo Humaray Mulaq mae madad kernay aye or us ka UNO ko Letter …. PPP ak corrupt Government hai Sab ye Jantay or mantay hain….Wo apne muddat pora kerna chahtey hai or un ke jo be policies hai believe me is ka leye kafan hai or ayenda PPP apne values koh dage…. Saheed Benazir Bhutto ke Baserat the un ke decision tha but Jo be Mohterma ka Kareeb tha ab wo PPP se door hai Like Atezaz Ahsan, or Bht saray senior Leader Reason Sab jantay hain…. Such tu pher Such hai ap chahye is ko dunya se chupanay ke kohish karen… Allah bas Pakistan ke Hefazat keray Ameen
the article by talat hussain is great and true as he is himself,the person on aglina´s favour are firvolus and can´t accept the truth ,how you can be favourble for a porn actress rather than a genius and prestigious,brave,honest,truth ful journalist.we feel proud on talat hussain…..and shame on you who wrote above article against out respectable journalist.
if someone is helping you when you need it and when she is not required to do so, you should appreciate them.
The heroic and brave Talat Hussain? Lagta hai humari army ki tarah yeh bhi laray baghair sitara jurrut haasil ker baithay. By the number of likes, and please note this is the greatest number of likes and english article has gotten on this blog I think you do not speak for the rest of the country when you say ‘we are proud of him’. You have your rights so please be proud of whatever you wish, most people are ashamed of this ehsaan faramosh bud tehzeeb insaan.
A very good column and a slap on the face of ruling elite. I don’t know what wrong Talat has written in the article. It is describing facts and if someone does not like dark facts about a female then it has nothing to do with Talat. A very well written article and keep the good work Talat.
You are brave Talat Hussian and telling the truth.
Talat Hussian speaks words of truth with honor. Other voices such as his are coming forth to remove the veil of protection from the lie that is Angelina Jolie caring person. The numerous “little people” who have come into contact with her on her humanitarian missions speak of her staying with the people long enough for photo opportunities for her favor while she is staying in the closest 5 Star hotel amid luxury. The only good will she emits it aimed toward herself and her wants. Bravo once again Taltat Hussian. We can only hope the applications received by the UNHCR for appointment as humanitarian representatives will in the future be those of genuine persons with honest intentions of self service to mankind.
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anjlena s charecter her on but she came to pak for help. Shame just for begherat ppp crupt govt . Zardare and gelane are daako and donkey shame both pf you and your leadershep.
What i read and understand in this column is absolutely correct, first he explained the character of Jolie and then at last he said whatever she’s,she’s still better than Pakistani leader’s ,character-wise.
And what is her character, Google it,this column reveals that quite comprehensively.
And who speaks truth .is man of wisdom belonging to any group.
Talat is no doubt best of intellectuals in Pakistani media.
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