Ahlulbayt TV: Don’t let an Iftikhar Chaudhry loyalist obfuscate on religious extremism in Pakistan – by Kumail Rizvi
Samad Khurram’s analysis in Eyewitness Pakistan Special: Part One – The Role of Islam in Pakistan (Ahlulbayt TV) for the most part sounds like a refined version of a Jamaat-e-Islami apologist. This much is obvious from roughly 3:00 minutes into the video clip available on Youtube.
There is almost a hint of triumph when Samad Khurram refers to who has won the ideological debate in Pakistan. Like many right-wing urban hypernationalists, Samad makes generous use of sweeping generalizations when he highlights that it is “one side” (the obvious reference to Jamaat-e-Islami and its subsidiary groups like PML- N and PTI) that have won the ideological debate for a theocratic state.
Such a view (mostly dependant on urban surveys of a tiny sample of upper-middle class youths) is negated when one looks at the recent bye-elections victory in NA 151 where the PPP candidate, Abdul Qadir Gilani defeated the candidate enjoying the support of Jamaat-e-Islami and its combined ideological subsidiaries like the PML N, PTI and “independant” Judiciary. Throughout Pakistan’s history, the Jamaat-e-Islami has had a dismal electoral performance inspite of support from the military establishment. PML N has fared better but only on the premise of its economic platform.
His analysis of the genesis of Pakistan is equally poor and biased. During his explanation, Samad subtly reinforces the false binary propagated by the likes of Jamaat-e-Islami that secularism = irreligious or “La-Deeniyat”.
He also refers to the Hobbesian concept of a “Social Contract”. Factually, right uptil the end, Jinnah was willing to accept a united India and thus the need for developing a separate social contract never existed. (Refer to Ayesha Jalal’s “Jinnah: The Sole Spokesman”). Samad’s analysis here is frankly quite shoddy in stark contrast to Ali Dayan’s more complex and layered reasoning in the same programme. Also, in the 1946 elections, Muslim League had significant electoral victories in what became the future Bangladesh and Sindh. In Punjab, it was the Unionist party while the Bacha Khan’s Khudai Khitmatgars dominated the political scene in what is today Khyber Pukhtunkhwa. Balochistan was not a part of Pakistan until its annexation by Jinnah in 1948. Samad simply glosses over these essential details in a typical Jamaat-e-Islami nationalist fashion.
What is most problematic is how Samad insidiously presents the Jamaat-e-Islami point of view on Bhutto (he was viewed as a “drunkard” “debaucherer”) as “public perception”. Similarly, the military dictator, General Zia-ul-Haq did not “rally the people” on the basis of religion. He ruled with an iron fist, killed, tortured and imprisoned thousands of pro-democracy activists and held a sham referendum to justify his theocratization measures. In all of this, he was ably supported by a pliant Judiciary which by now had already developed a reputation for collaborating with Martial Law regimes.
The fine details about pro-Wahhabi leanings of General Zia-ul-Haq and pluralist leanings of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto are of course omitted and Samad Khurram’s personal biased are too obvious to ignore, particularly for the niche audience watching Ahlulbayt TV.
During this stretch in the clip (starting roughly from 22:00 minutes), Samad makes some of the most horrendously biased and false claims:
“majority accept an Islamic Welfare State”
Samad also contradicts himself when he first refers to the 1970’s as the beginning of Pakistan’s theocratization and then flip flops by calling it a very open society during the same time period. When he talks of explicit social restrictions, he conviniently makes no mention or explicit condemnation of General Zia. When he talks of the alleged perference of Pakistanis for Sharia Law and the harsh Hudood Laws, he refers to both imagined and real polls that would support it.
If anyone needed proof of the similarity between Samad Khurram and the Jang Group’s notorious Pro-Taliban ideologue Ansar Abbasi, refer to 26:00 minutes segment of the video clip. In what sounds like a indirect defense of the Taliban’s lashing of a teenager, Samad only presents the Taliban apologist arguements “She was an adultress” “This video is a fake” while diluting the the horror and outrage that the general public felt when this video was aired. To brush this aside as a case of dampened enthusiasm for Sharia Law is the height of intellectual dishonesty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=109XWRm3-1o
For more on how Samad’s probable ideological mentors Ansar Abbasi and Hamid Mir distort the national discourse, refer to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8af6TPUvcE – seeing the justification of the brutal and cowardly murder of Salman Taseer by Ansar Abbasi and his prodding and support by Hamid Mir is disgusting. Quite like Samad’s own misrepresentation of Governor Taseer’s murder. Then again, what else should one be expecting from someone whose discourse is eerily similar to that of a Jamaat-e-Islami activist- only more refined.
And on and on it continues.
“People will not give their life for a lower bus fare”, “they will give their life for religion” – Samad clearly ignores the role of pro-democracy movements like the MRD where scores of activists gave their life for a political cause.
He indirectly justifies the Taliban by presenting the Jamaat discourse which in turn sees them as a resistence movement. This is an effective tactic in obscuring and diluting the role of Pakistan’s ISI in creating, sponsoring, funding and continuing to support these murderous thugs. The blowback of this tactic to Pakistan has resulted in the deaths of over 40,000 Pakistanis in this decade alone.
“We strongly believe that Kashmir should be part of Pakistan” – Someone should send Samad the memo that even Pakistan’s official stance supports a plebescite where Kashmiris themselves have a right to decide what they want. Also, it’s not Lashkar-e-Tayyaba but Lashkar-e-Jhangvi that is engaged in Shia Genocide.
While Samad attempts to create a (short) distance between himself and the Jamaati viewpoint that forms the bulk of his interview, he fails to convince as he never presents the counterpoint. This is subtle intellectual dishonesty that needs to be highlighted. This dishonesty is a typical hallmark of Pakistan’s seemingly liberal but inherently anti-diversity upper-middle class which remains clandestinely pro-Wahhabi and therefore remains tight-lipped on the ongoing Shia pogroms taking place in Pakistan. This also explains why many in this class remain generally aligned with Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, Imran Khan and other Taliban apologists.
For an overview of what Pakisatn’s millions of Shias think about CJ Iftikhar Chaudhry and his apologists, refer to this post: Pakistan’s Chief Justice humiliated in London, Rome, Karachi and Lahore – by Mohsin Sheharyar
Towards the end, Samad unwittingly refers to the Government being bogged down in survivalist mode due to the Judiciary’s interventionist role in the Exeutive and Legislature. This is cited as a reason for the Government’s failure to do something about the ongoing Shia Genocide in Pakistan. While the elected government needs to be critisized for its helplessness and inability to do anything beyond issuing statements, the Judiciary and the Opposition are actually complicit in the growing extremism in Pakistan and the resulting genocide of Shias.
However, consistent to the remainder of his interview, Samad excels in half-truths. He conveniently fails to mention how the Judiciary has gone out of its way to release mass murdering terrorists – refer to Harris Bin Munawar’s “Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the “lack of evidence”.
It is baffling as to why Ahlul-Bayt TV interviewed someone like Samad Khurram for such an important topic.
If one needed an honest appraisal on religious extremism, should one provide equal air time to a sophisticated apologist for religious extremism? Were Professor Hoodbhoy, Shehla Raza, Farahnaz Ishphani, Hussain Haqqani, Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa, Kamran Shafi, Saroop Ijaz, Khaled Ahmed, Faisal Raza Abidi or Dr. Taqi unavailable? Unfortunately, some of those who portray themselves as liberal champions are also to blame for this as they have actively supported and promoted Samad Khurram. Ayesha Tammy Haq (a former PTI activist) provides him a regular platform on her weekly TV show.
Samad Khurram’s trajectory as someone who reinforces the Jamaat-e-Islami narrative needs to be analyzed. When Samad Khurram made his token gesture of rejecting the US ambassador’s award on the pretext of opposing drone strikes that have killed top Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders, he proceeded to study at a University that is arguably one of the largest beneficiaries of US public and private endownment.
Like other young upper-middle class urban activists, Samad gained notoreity as being part of the increasingly discredited Lawyer’s Movement. Has Ahlul-Bayt TV done its research on how this movement was hijacked by the Jamaat-e-Islami, Sipah-e-Sahaba (now renamed as Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat), General Hamid Gul, PESA (an ISI-backed lobby of retired army officers) and Roedad Khan. This movement lost complete credibility when the murderer of Taseer was celebrated as a hero by many of the same lawyers while the few who disagreed cowered and went into hiding.
Given this background, AB TV should have been more careful in selecting a candidate.
——
Taipliece: 25 August 2012: Pictures from anti-Shia genocide protest in Italy
Have you ever seen 300,000 people insulting a (biased) chief justice of their country?
Shame on Jamaatia tout of LeJ Chief Justice.
Double Shame on Ahlul Bayt TV
Is this man Sammad a twin od Ansar Abbasi?
http://pakistanmediawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ansar-abbasi-dunya-today.jpg
http://cdn.criticalppp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/SK.jpg
Shakal bhi malti hai, kartoot bhi
I thank Kumail Rizvi for writing a comprehensive post on this Jaan Nisar of a Judge who himself is a Jaan Nisar of Taliban and Lashkar Jhangvi.
This seemingly liberal, bigot from inside, and others of his ilk, have caused more harm to Pakistani society then Malik Ishaqs and Baitullah Mahsuds.
How blatantly does he place the blame of Malik Ishaq’s release on prosecution. Does not he know that Iftakhar Choudhy himself is a first cousin of Rana Sanaullah, the chief mentor of SSP LeJ in Punjab.
Did it take this long for LUBP to figure out that Samad is a pucca Jamaatia. Some years back I was a silent participant in a discussion on Pakistan’s politics. It was near the Au Bon Pain cafe (Harvard Square). Samad was holding court and prattling on about how great this Chaudary dude is. His venom against the late Benazir (herself a Harvard alum) was quite disturbing. I am no PPP supporter but she was a leader – way better than the Zardaris, Gilanis, Sharifs and Imran Khans. Chaudhary and his corrupt dumbo son have disgraced Pakistan and Samad’s flattery for this judge is like a joke now.
Agli baar Ahlul Bayt TV Ludhianvi ko bhi bula lay. Iss munafiq say tau behter hota
The most vocal Shia Rights activist on Pakistan media is Faisal Raza Abidi.
Why was he not invited to this show instead of someone as dubious as Samad.??
Some hours back Ayesha Tammy and her sidekick Samad were attacking FRA for exposing this Cheap Justice. They are burning that their idol Iftikhar PCO has been exposed as a corrupt, Pro Taliban judge.
Who is this ass? Why does a Shia channel invite those who are shamelessly anti-Shia? When will the Shias of Pakistan leanr to act intheir own benefits? If you go to places like Layyah and Serai Alamgir, it is the Shias who are hands-in-gloves with the Denbandis in anti-Ahmadi persecution.
@Omar
He’s my hero and also that of Malik Ishaq and Ansar Abbasi.
http://pakistanblogzine.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/my-hero-is-samad-khurram/
Paracha Sb@ What a glorious company to belong to!
This idiot is being interviewed too? Allah reham karay!
This is so bad. Another famous liberal like Samad Khurram is being critisized by LUBP. First it was Hamid Mir then Ansar Abbasi followed by Ejaz Haider and Najam Sethi. Now liberal icons like Marvi twins, NFP and Samad Khurram are also not being spared from criticism on LUBi.
This is too much. Phitay Moon LUBI!!!
Salam all
I am the producer of this program, and I was working for Ahlulbayt TV when this show was made.
Ahlulbayt TV is the world’s first English language Shia channel. It is aired from the UK and goes out to most of the world, but sadly is only available online in Pakistan (at the moment). The channel is funded ENTIRELY by viewer donations, and is not a commercial entity. Our audience is the entire English speaking Muslim (and non Muslim) world, and is mostly the diaspora. Because a lot of Arab, Irani, East African viewers are not well aware of Pakistani politics, this show was made as a four part series.
I don’t want to go point by point on each of the issues raised here. What I would like to say are two things.
1) The views presented by each of the guests were quite extensive. I personally edited them, and often had to reduce statements for the sake of brevity and time. Several times, many nuances were removed. Often, I let one guest say half a thought, and then complete that with the other guest’s thoughts since they would often say similar things. Often, especially in the areas on Bhutto and Zia, issues were covered over two episodes. A lot more about Zia is said in episode 3, which deals specifically with the military.
Thus, quite a few times I feel that the episode and what Samad said is being taken out of context. I don’t believe that there are any major inaccuracies or biases over the course of the four part series. You won’t see every guests say *exactly* the right thing because they are either edited out or dealt with in a later program.
I feel that regardless of your opinions on Samad’s political and ideological leanings, it is not correct to claim that he is being anti-Shia, or that the program is insidious.
*As the producer, I completely stand by the decision to have him on the program*
Also, the programs were shot in London. Many analysts, journalists and government officials were contacted for appearing on the show. Most declined. There was no agenda to include or exclude various guests.
2) I would also like you to reconsider the comments you have made about Ahlulbayt TV. I would encourage you to go to http://www.ahlulbayt.tv/ondemand and look for yourself at the amount of work we have done for Shia news in Pakistan, Bahrain, Malaysia, Belgium, USA, Canada, Kenya, Nigeria, Australia and many other places.
To say things like ‘shame on Ahlulbayt TV’ deters donors (people who run the channel) and trashes one of the few channels in the entire world that are broadcasting on such niche issues. We are working very hard to expand our coverage of the Hazara plight. One angry blogpost can make an entire people turn their back on a channel that is doing something it believes in, and needs the support of its viewers.
I am adding links to some of our Pakistan, and Shia violence related episodes, so you can have a look for yourselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0mu8m0Rv4Q&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiAT_6EMQrY&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH_8RZxuvJI&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmKKs8Qr6XY&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL1pAMhGMkE&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C67N0GWycH4&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdafO2Xvg8U&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESXSC9OeRY&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/user/shadowfax121/videos?query=inspiring+communities
There’s a lot more that isn’t up on youtube yet. But I hope you can appreciate the kind of work Ahlulbayt TV has done, and at least edit, if not remove, the derogatory language used for the channel.
Thanks
@Ahmer
“I feel that regardless of your opinions on Samad’s political and ideological leanings, it is not correct to claim that he is being anti-Shia, or that the program is insidious.”
Ahmer,
Can you point out exactly where I have called Samad as being “anti-Shia”. I don’t know how it is that you do your research but getting an Iftikhar Chaudhary loyalist to talk about the ongoing Shia Genocide is a poor choice.
You really need to move out of your bubble and actually research Shia websites/facebook groups like Shia Killings, Karbala-o-Quetta, World Shia Forum, LUBP etc who have published extensively on this topic.
Shias in Pakistan are deeply critical of the PPP-coalition government for having failed to protect them. However, they are even more critical of the Chief Justice. The PPP atleast has Faisal Raza Abidi, Shehla Raza, Nadeem Afzal Chand, Gondal, Farahnaz Isphani etc who have spoken out against this. Chief Justice can take notice of all things under the sun but is continuing to ignore this while releasing Shia killers left, right and center. And blaming the prosecution (which is part of the Bar and Bench as much as it is part of the Executive) is not fooling anyone.
Did you not see the anti-CJP poem that was recited to thousands of Shia activists just a couple of months ago?
As a viewer, my opinion is not “regardless”. You should know that. I have the right to call out blatant misrepresentations.
Samad presented views that are part of the Jamaat-e-Islami lexicon. He did not bother to present the alternative viewpoint. So we can make the assumption that the views presented by Samad, in absence of the counter arguements, are approximate to his own. As a producer, you should know of such basic journalist rules.
In all of this, Samad’s leanings since he was one amongst two guests, is crucial. Would you get Ludhianvi as one of your guests to discuss religious extremism and Shia Genocide in Pakistan. As someone who is ideologically linked with Sipah-e-Sahaba’s parent organization, Jamaat-e-Islami, I don’t think Samad is a good choice for this. I have presented my arguements. Let the audience decide.
FYI, you do know that the Islami Jamiat Tulaba (IJT) controls Punjab University where their IJT hooligans attacked a Shia event. You also know that it was the same Punjab University that garlanded Samad Khurrum for his anti-drone stance.
@LUBP editors, Is this how people handle criticism. It is not enough that Shias are being killed left, right and center in Pakistan but then we have the Ahmer Naqvi’s giving space to individuals like Samad Khurram to talk on religious extremism?
Kumayl,
Just because someone presents the arguements of Jamaat-e-Islami does not mean that they are “ideologically linked” to JI. Wait, actually, that is accurate assesment.
Thanks for the article and the comment.
Instead of wasting time on promoting closet Taliban lovers (Samad Khurram) and their benefactors (Iftikahr Chaud), Ahlulbayt TV must highlight how Pakistan’s upper-middle class is keeping silent on or misrepresenting Shia genocide.
Will Ahmer Naqvi will care to act different from Kufi Shias Ejaz Haider, Abbas Brothers of Dawn/ISPR etc
Ms. Kumail,
Aren’t you terribly obsessed with Samad Khurram?