Being a Shia in Pakistan: A personal experience – by Ale Natiq
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Pakistan is home to a large Shia community, second only to Iran but if you are born in the community, you sure have landed in the wrong place. I was born Shia in Pakistan in 1984 and a year later, the state decided to turn the informal violence against the Shia – ever present courtesy the exclusivist national ideology which is inherently anti-Shia – into an official slow genocide.
My earliest memories of you-don’t-belong-here feeling are from early school days in a small semi-urban town near Lahore. Our house was located on this small street lined up by half a dozen Shia houses – all my extended family. Every morning when I left home with my daada to go to school, the wall opposite our door had a new wall chalking reading “Kaafir Kaafir Shia Kaafir”. I recall asking my daada what does it mean and he replied saying “Kush naee”. I never bothered erasing it, nor did any of my siblings or my cousins. Years passed, I changed school and a tonga replaced my daada but these wall chalking never stopped. Now that the tonga moved through different streets before taking me school, I noticed this was everywhere Shia lived in town. My question was still unanswered and this time around, I asked my chaacha. Again, he smiled and said “Kuch nahee” and then left without saying anything more. Sometime later he returned with a painter, then holding my finger took me to the courtyard and had him paint ‘Ya Ali Madad’ in massive black font on the façade of our house facing street. I could not understand why did he do that.
I understood a different meaning of the word ‘sharing’ at school. I can recall those suffocating lunch breaks at school when we got together under the shadow of a tree in school grounds to ‘share’ lunch. I was welcomed to have a piece from other’s lunch but nobody ate mine. This happened on a regular basis and I finally decided to have my lunch alone, not leaving the classroom during the break. I found it difficult to comprehend to start with but later realised what it meant when a newcomer joined our class. Her name was Fatima, she joined after the Summer breaks and remained allusive during the breaks. One day when I was stuffing myself with my lunch, she walked towards me, leaned over my desk and asked, ‘Aap Shia ho?’ She mentioned my name to her father, because of my good results in class probably, and from my name he deciphered my sect. We shared our lunch that day and it was then I realised why nobody was interested in my lunch.
Most kids and youth find exam days to be quite challenging but the most challenging and tough part of the year for me was Muharram. It was as if all my classmates changed into different people – the same class fellows who we had family terms with, spent half the day with me, learnt and played with me; with the start of Muharram thought as if I have come from another planet. I was the subject of curiosity, snooping and ridicule. Year after year I was asked the same questions all over again as if they suffer from a memory loss. The most popular questions were
(i) What do you Shia do on Sham-e-Ghareeban after turning the lights off?
(ii) Is it true that on Sham-e-Ghareeban you can choose any girl you like from the room?
(iii) Is it true that you eat feces from Zuljaneh after Ashura as Tabaruk?
(iv) How many chapters do you have in Quran?
(v) Do you believe that Ali was destined to be Prophet but Gabriel made a mistake?
I changed schools, cities and province but these questions didn’t stop coming. I moved to Pakhtunkhwa for a few years during school and was welcomed warmly. I was a new comer, a Punjabi and so naturally subject of curiosity. Nobody knew about my Shia identity and all worked well. Then, the time of the year came again. My class mates gathered during the lunch break and got busy in their usual discussions with inquisitiveness around Shia, Azadari, Muharram and the rituals associated. “Yaar inkay to to mazzay hain, jo dil kia select kar lain gay dasveen ko” said one of them, while the other replied, “main to mohallay ki Shia majlisson me jata hoon, bara mahool hota hay”. I broke my silence refuting all of that and one of them replied “tume kya pata, tum Shia ho?”. I kept silent and a deafening silence followed. None said anything, none felt embarrassed or gutted but I put myself in for trouble. The questions kept coming as a routine. I realised that quite normal people consider Shia as a cult who practice mass orgies, incest sex, open relationships and are conspirators against Islam and traitors to Pakistan.
As I settled in the town which was new home to me, I was invited by one of my friends to spend a weekend with him. His mother welcomed me on gate and asked, “Beta aapka naam kya hay?”. My friend responded before I could, adding that I am a Shia. “Asli Syed to Sunni hotay hain, chalo khair” she said on my face and I kept wondering what that was supposed to mean.
I developed friendships in the town which lead to family friends. I had this close friend of mine with whom I studied and played who lived close to our place. We frequently visited each other. He never ate at my place, whether it was meals or snacks no matter what time of the day it was, even when he stayed for longer hours to prepare for exams. He would always make an excuse or say it on my face that he was going home to have his meal and will come back. Despite all my personal experiences, I never thought this was again because of who I was. Then, one day when he didn’t leave at lunch time and had lunch with me, her mother called and after getting to know that he had his lunch with me, she responded saying “Kaha bhi thaa nahee khana udhar” and put the phone down. I think she was a victim of this widespread misconception that the Shia spit in their food before giving to anyone else. This is so widespread that there is a reference in Shoaib Mansoor’s Bol on this when Shia Irfan Khosat’s wife sends Nayaaz ki Kheer to her Sunni neighbours.
During my late teens, when more youth was turning ‘religious’ and Tableeghis were everywhere, I occasionally prayed in the Sunni mosque opposite the university where I studied. I never thought I was doing something wrong or going to a place where I should not. On the contrary, I asked my fellows a few times to go to a Shia mosque nearby and pray there together but none agreed. One can always find Shia men praying in Sunni mosques but the opposite hardly happens. As a routine I had my Iftaar with my Sunni fellows but none, I repeat NONE in my life so far had the courtesy to wait for me another 10 minutes. I always thought that people fast the full day, get irritated if someone eats in their presence, vehemently support the Ehtaram-e-Ramzan ordinance which bans eating in public during Ramzan; but they do not have the basic courtesy to wait just 10 minutes for a friend? Basically, you expect this respect for the full day from sick and a stranger who probably doesn’t even believe in this religious practice but when it comes to you, you cant even do 10 minutes, that too for a close friend – really?
The suspicion and curiosity around Shia identity is so embedded into Pakistani culture that it sometimes boggles one’s mind. As an example: Living in the UK, I have refused to celebrate Eid with Saudi Arabia believing Allah has not deprived UK of a moon yet and have relied on Royal Observatory’s moon sightings. The moment I told my Sunni friends and family, the first question I was asked was, “Hmmm.. When are the Shia celebrating their Eid?” I clarified several times that this has nothing to do with my Shia identity but a pure question of logic – I live in the UK and I will celebrate Eid when we sight moon in the UK. But my arguments where ignored completely and was told that we should all celebrate together – of course when Saudi Arabia decides for us.
This is my personal experience being raised in Pakistan but I am sure most, if not all, Shia go through this. I haven’t been a practicing Muslim most part of my life but during Muharram I find myself compelled to go to the Azadari Jaloos. Living away from family and my hometown, it was not Eid when I missed home most – it was the Ashura. Azadari gives the Shia of Pakistan a chance to reinforce their identity, to live their identity. There is a reason many non religious, secular, agnostic or sceptic Pakistanis which Shia background are a part of Azadari rituals. Like my chaacha, every year this is my answer to “What is Kaafir Kaafir Shia Kaafir”. Growing up Shia in Pakistan has made me find the answer to the question I asked him as a kid.
The Writer is an editor of Urdu Blog Roshnipk
Further readings:
You know you are a Pakistani Shia when…
Intellectual dishonesty in misrepresenting Shia massacres in Pakistan
50 ways to gracefully ignore Shia Genocide
Shia, Shia, Shia, where is Pakistan? – by Sabah Hassan
The behavior mentioned here is not one sided. Frankly speaking the behavior of our Shia brothers towards Sunnis is no different. Many of our Shia brothers still live in the midnset of Karbala and treat others in that mind frame. Some of my Sunni friends lived in Tehran and they had to offer Jumma prayers in Pakistani Embassy as there were no Sunni mosques allowed in their areas (I am not sure about other parts of Iran but last year they didn’t allow Sunnis to organize their Eid prayers). I never give importance to issues like Karbala etc and perhaps thats the reason sometimes I had to face a lot of questions about my faith and my prospects of going to heavens from Shia brothers or getting a title of being a Yazidi (with a concept they have of Yazid). We all need to realize that there is more about a person then his or ideology and basic human aspects are very similar despite our ideological affiliations. The problem is many of us think with a victim mentality which takes away sense of making fair judgments and only our side looks the right side with no possibility of either person is wrong or we both can be right or wrong.
The author must have had a terrible experience. But I doubt that this sectarian attitude is across all of Pakistan. I beleive most Muslims and Pakistanis are non Sectarian though a significant minority are sectarian.
Is the author’s experience reflective of the attitude of most Pakistanis and Muslims? I dont think so and I definitely hope not!
@faisal: Maybe some people have bad experiences bt both Sunnis and Shias are nice poeple who are non sectarian for the most part, with a minority of extremists in every group.
yes agreed and the situation has become worse because of the whole nation going into a war mode. things which were mere differences of opinion or occasional clashes are now turning into armed conflicts. they way out i think is to come out of this war and then all parties should sit together to sort out a way for mutual existence with justice and peace. but the way things are going, it doesnt seem that the time for peace is near.
I never had a problem with facing questions because it helps me in questioning my faith, ideas etc and i like to do it often but only thing which harms is that when these differences of opinion are being exploited to expand an armed conflict like in Pakistan. Establishment used sectarian, social class and tribal conflicts to forward war agenda which is now hitting Shias, Sunnis and everyone else. Now everyone finds him or herself as a victim party and doesn’t bother much that the other side is not having a fun time as well.
@ faisal : Thats the spirit be open minded, and dont take things personally.
I disagree with you and LUBP, that Establishment backs sectarian groups and stuff. As for militant organizations, our Establishment has IGNORED them which is TOTALLY Wrong, but I dont think they are backing them.
As for political parties THE CIVILIAN PARTIES are the ones who divide masses on sectarian-ethnic-linguistic lines. Ofcourse I am not down playing Zia era but our politicians have played a bigger role in this.
In general I have been following LUBP for a month now, while I agree wiht some stances and disagree with others but hopefully we can have a reasonable dialogue.
Very True. Even till today at the age of 30 when people get matured. They didn’t dare to pray in Shia mosque. However i have prayed a lot of time in Sunni mosque with my friend. but my friend never try to go even inside the Shia mosque.
The reason lot of shias perform in sunni mosque because they are practicing on core belief of shiaism which is taqqiya,shias are slandering our sahabas especially abu bakr,umer and usman may allah be please with them.
ii am sorry to say for how long we will fight for shia, sunni, barilve, deobande, ahle hadees, sufi, jamaate islami, wahabi and salafi i mean hundreds of sects and sects whithin sects realy muslims do nott need any enemy we are the enemy of ours. I think none of us are muslim and muslim will say muslim for therself not any aother identity shia or sunni. We have slaughtered each other from the day one, when our beloved prophet departed and then the conflict begans. I will not touch the history but none of us is trying to read the true story, every one is reasing the history with there own glasses which very dusty. For God sake we have 95 % in common and still fighting for 5% and this will never be resolved. We have a conflict of 1400 years and without forget past and think for a bright future and continue this debate another way with peace and homony sit together and clear there boundries and red lines and following the guidlines not cross the res lines of each other. it was not easy and better for Allah to make a Prophet from pakistan and give then atomic bomb and arms to make all the world pure sunni or shia muslims otherwise delete them and there will be no conflict. If Allah did that why we are forcing each other to impose their sect or religion on each other, Allah says that ”Let them there religion and your religion is for you” ” لكم دين كم وليادين” sura e kaferoon it was when muslims were frequently in war with jews in Madinah and thats the Allah who let all the humen being to chose thier religion and Allah says ”There is no ‘hate’ force in religion” sura e baqara in ayat ul kursi.
The problem with muslim world is that most of the fights are on 1400 years old history which we cant change or confirm. What many of us dont realize is that we cant change history and we will not ve to be answerable for it. We have to be answerable for own decisions in current times. I dont mind people believing one version of history and rejecting the other but making it part of current policy or making them a base of 21st century conflicts doesnt look a good approach to me.
Aren’t we already a ‘state sponsor of terrorism’?
September 5, 2012
The TTP, of course, needs no introduction. It has made a name for itself by attacking security installations and executing Shia Muslims. PHOTO: AFP
Last week, major media outlets reported that the Obama administration was considering designating the Haqqani network a “terrorist organisation”. The New York Times, meanwhile, pointed out that the United States was considering the decision’s impact on its relationship with Pakistan.
The article added that “such a move would seem to bring Pakistan a step closer to being designated as a state sponsor of terrorism”.
Let’s address the issue of Pakistan being declared a “state sponsor of terrorism”.
On the list of terrorist organisations available on the US State Department’s website are familiar names like Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), Jaish-e-Mohammad, Harkatul Mujahideen, Jundallah and Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). Most of these groups have also been declared banned organisations in Pakistan. However, people like Hafiz Saeed (founder of the LeT and considered to be the mastermind of the 26/11 Mumbai attacks) and Malik Ishaq (founder of the LeJ) have been repeatedly taken into custody and released by Pakistani courts.
The TTP, of course, needs no introduction. It has made a name for itself by attacking security installations and executing Shia Muslims. So, how can we still be considered a civilised state as opposed to one that “sponsors terrorism”, if we are home to these organisations? The official designation for the Haqqani network will not change anything. Patriots may point out that being home to the cream of terrorist organisations in the world does not mean that we’re state sponsors of terror.
However, that argument is hard to make when the Lahore High Court releases extremists and the Pakistan Army needs all kinds of persuasion from national and international entities to launch an offensive against fundamentalist camps. Our security agencies have themselves admitted that they are in contact with the Haqqanis but carefully added that they are in no way supporting them.
The Haqqanis have been credited with well-executed attacks in Afghanistan in recent years, and they will have a say in the so-called ‘endgame’ in Afghanistan, unless the US manages to obliterate every last Haqqani through drone strikes.
The designation is supposed to make it difficult for the group to gather funds but since these organisations are principally funded by wealthy monarchs in the Middle East and by desperate families whose loved ones they kidnap for ransom, it would all amount to a publicity stunt at best.
Read more by Ali here.
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/13731/arent-we-already-a-state-sponsor-of-terrorism/
The author presented a true picture of experiences of Pakistani shias. I had the same problem when I was in a school. I still remember that in grade 4 a girl (whose father was a teacher in the same school)refused to eat my lunch when I offer some to her by saying ‘Hum kafiron ka khana nahi khatey, hamare abb u ne mana kia hay’. Do I have to say anything what went through my my mind when I was only 8-9 years old 🙁
Most Ahmadi muslims live in Pakistan with a label of :Mirzai: or :Kafir: pinned on them. Streets are filled with :Mirzai Kuttay, Hai Hai: tantrum or :Mirzai Kafir: Not only that, the pious are asked to kill them since they are :wajabul Qatal:. Sad and unfortunate, but it is pervasive attitude in the country; yesterday they came for Ahmadis; today they are after Shias; wonder who is next?
Nice article Ale!
You clearly had it harder being in Punjab. I assure you though that things weren’t that bad in Sindh, though they probably are now. Can’t remember any of us castigating a shia class fellow and food was always welcome particularly sheermal in Muharram. Lets hope things return to the olden days.
Is Islam about sectarian beliefs or about being an *abid* of God ?
Brothers n sisters I would lk to say sumthing…..I am a shia muslim residing in india…..n after reading dis article would juz lk to say dat dis situation is nt juz in pakistan, its d same in india minus d attacks n d bloodshed. Sunnis of our country also treat shia as a non muslim or kafirs in d rite word. I m nt a religious minded guy bt den also bcoz of sum of my sunni frnds n d way dey wer questioning or treating me abt me being a shia led me to leave der friendship forever coz its no use talking to a person who is asking u question which are baseless in itself….
Author ko sharam ani chahye k woh kis tarah se apni khabasat ka zikar gol ker gia he. woh apnay ooper ghor nhe kerta k woh kia bakwas kertay haina ur kia ghaleez harkatain kertay hain. usay kafir kahay janay pe to dukh he magar woh apnay shia aqaed nhe bata raha. LUBP forum vivit kernay pe mujhay shia lanti ki haqeeqat ka pata chala. sheea khulafa e rashdeen ko kuon bhonktay hain? shia Hazrat Abubakar, Umer , Usman ko naoozobillah kafir , zani, sharabi aur harami kuon kahtay hain? a harami sheeo tum sahaab ko bhonko unki shan main gustakhi kero kafir zani kaho to kia tumhain sunni phooloon k haar pahnaen gay? mujhay LUBP se pta chal gia he k sheea kuon kafir hain. shia ko kafir 100 percent theek kaha gia he. mujhay samajh a gia he k sheea ko kuon kafir kaha aur qatal kia jaat he. Is forum main shia akfir log ganday comments sahaba k baray main likhtay hain to LUBP delete nhe kerta aur agar sunni jawab day to delete ker daita he aur aksar k comments ko kisi city se block bhe ker daita he. main ye kahnay pe 100 percent theek hon k kafir kafir shia kafir jo na manay woh bhi kafir. Shia pe lanay LUBP pe lanat. sahaab aur amman ayesha ko bonknay walay pe laanat. lanaant shia pe bayshumaar.
100%
Ap nay aksar suna ho ga k Sheeoon ko kafir na kaho. log sheeoon se ye kuon nhe kahtay k ae sheeo tum sahaba ko kafir na kaho. sheea khulafa e raashdeen ko musilman hi nhe samajhtay. sheea to kahtay hain k Quran k 40 paray hain. ye musilman hain bhi to kaisay? ap is link ko follow kertay hoe sheea ki haqeeqat daikhain.
http://criticalppp.com/archives/223656/shia-kafir
Lanat ho Ahl e bait aur sahaba k dushmanan pe.
@Hamid, Allah ki lanat hu tm jesy zalil logo py. Lanat teri zaat py. pig ki aulad.
Due to your hatred for companions of prophet,Allah has made you mutilate yourselves in muharram and you will keep on doing it untill day of qiymah,may allah punish abdullah bin saba,founder of shiaism and his followers.aameen
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I have read all replies and discussions, is shia are same as other Muslims and they use Muslim religion with their names,why they do taqqia(munafiqat)when they perform prey in sun I mosque,or during discoucion against shia people. Dana is perhibited in Islam why shia people have changed zana name in mutt a, why shia Schiller do mutt a with their sister and mother???as I discussed with shia scoller of Multan.
A Muslim should live according to the Quran and sun ah,all sahabah are great,they left their homes families for preaching of Islam,everything should be clear,khameeni was against Sunnis,that’s why in Iran there is no sun I mosque,why shia r making mosques in pak???
I belong to a shia family which sacrificed the whole family to migrate to Pakistan from Lucknow. It is really hard to practice our belief here. I had three experiences of being literally kicked out from sunni faith mosques in the capital city in E-11 Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Faisalabad.
I was asked strange questions in job interviews about my sect one in a reputable company in islamabad once in lahore and once in NADRA. People refuse to eat with us one of my colleagues once said if any of my family member comes to know that we are having lunch together then they may disown me our relatives say it is better to eat with a dog then to eat with a shia. You people had 40 chapters of quran. You worship horses . you killed imam hussain and now mourn with guilt. no one knows a thing about us except one thing hate hate and hate.
Hazrat Ali says “Hatred of People is based on ignorance about any thing”.
We are labeled as Mushriks. Some say we are the branch of Jewism. One thing which I want to say here is that. We believe in oneness of Allah more then any other sect. We love and recognize Prophet PBUH more then any ahle sunnat and we love the household of prophet and his friends more then any sect. If this is why we are hated then I an compelled to say one thing “so be it”.
A basic thing with regard to Sunnism that we must realize is that its very base or foundation is rooted in on intolerance, extremism and usurping the rights and dignity of others so when it has such a foundation how can you expect good results from it? Besides another harsh reality of sunnis of the world today is that they are so filled with Naasibiyaat and Kharijiyaat to the extent that the needof the hour is for Adhaab (Wrath of God) to fall on them just like when the Mongols laid waste to Baghdaad and destroyed the Abasid Empire. Their horses had to cross pools and puddles and rivers of Blood of the Sunnis in order to go from place to place which is what is needed a great cleansing, So the Drone strikes are a good thing as they deserve it and like wise when American or NATO Drones and Helicopter gunships and other form of Air Craft land and Take off their propellers should in the spray of air they kick up the force of it should kick up a spray of the blood of these Naasibis and Kharijees as they deserve it there is no other way. Actually the very creation of the country was wrong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xArTRV2INSY
Sham-e-Ghariban The night following the day of Ashura is known as
Sham e Ghariban.
It was the night when the exhausted, hungry and tired families of
Imam
Hussain and his companions sat in loneliness, each thinking about the
loved ones they had lost in the unjust battle on that day. Due to the illness of Imam Ali Zain-ul Abideen, Bibi Zainab realised that
she would have to take care of the small group of women and
children
herself.
She called her sister Bibi Umme Kulthum to help her and they decided
to count all the children to see that none had gone missing in the
confusion
of the fire. To her horror and dismay Bibi Zainab found that Bibi
Sakina, the beloved
daughter of Imam Hussain, was not there. The two ladies searched
everywhere for the young girl but in vain. Finally, in desperation, Bibi Zainab (as) went to the place where the body of
her
brother Hussain lay and cried,
“O my brother, Sakina, who you left in my care, is nowhere to be
found.
Where shall I look for her in this wilderness?” Just then, the moon came out from behind a cloud and Bibi Zainab
saw that little Sakina lay on her father, sleeping on his chest like she
always
used to. She shook the child awake and said,
“My child, how did you find your father’s beheaded body in this
darkness?” The little girl replied innocently, “I wanted to tell my father about what the people had done to me.
I wanted to tell him how Shimr had robbed the earrings that my father
had
so lovingly given me.
I wanted to tell him how he had ripped them from my ears leaving my
earlobes torn and bleeding. I wanted to tell him how the beast had mercilessly slapped me when I
cried in pain.
When I was running aimlessly in the desert I thought I heard my
father’s
voice telling me he was here. I followed the voice and I found him
lying here. I told him everything and then I felt like sleeping on his chest
the
way I always did, for the last time. So I kept my head on his chest and
slept till you came.” Bibi Zainab (as) took the little child’s hand and
led her back to the camp
where her mother Bibi Rubab waited anxiously. She had just returned the exhausted child to her mother when she
noticed
that a group of people were advancing towards the camp carrying
flame
torches. She thought that some soldiers had returned to loot them
and she hurried to stop them from disturbing the children who had finally
gone to sleep despite their hunger and thirst. However, it turned out
that the arrivals were a group of ladies, the wives
of some of the enemy soldiers.
They were led by the widow of Hur, who had joined Imam Hussain’s
army from the enemy camp. Hur’s widow said, “Dear lady, we have been
asked to bring food and water
for the children and bereaved ladies of your camp.”
She continued sadly, “I am the widow of Hur who died fighting for
your
brother. When the soldiers of Amr ibne Sa’ad realised that all of you would perish of hunger and thirst, and that they would not be able to
take
you back to Yazid according to his command, they sent me to bring
food and water to you.”
Bibi Zainab offered her condolences at the death of Hur and
apologised that they had not been able to offer him much hospitality. This
remark
prompted Hur’s widow to say,
“My lady, I do not know how to offer you condolences, because you
lost not
one, but 18 members of your family.” Bibi Zainab supervised the feeding of all the children and ladies. She then
took a broken sword in her hands and began going around the camp
ensuring that the small group was safe from any further disturbances
during that night.
Thank you for such a detailed and beautiful reply
I. disagree….it,s not like that,,,that all of sunni.s disrespects or or doubts shia.s just for their name of being shias…even fingers of hands have their sizes different,,,,well i,d say we as a family are snni.s,[tablighi],but my best friend who,s more of a brother to me then a friend,,,i respect him his family as my own ,,my family respects him as their son,my younger brother.s call.s him what they call me..big brother[LALLA]…well i am a pathan….so brother this might have been your.s bad luck having come across such ridiculous fellow/s………….i respect him from the core of my heart he being a shia …..
Its fact and all this I m facing In my real life since my child hood. And I get shoked when I hear these things from my coleages. There are some people who are forwarding these rumours to our nation.and even they dont know any thing but thay say these things very surity just like they have seen all this with there eyes. May Allah get them on the islamic way.
Being a Shia in Pakistan: A personal experience – by Ale Natiq
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Author is a lier and a sick minded person.lived in misery..lanat aisa jhoot likhnay walon per..
Im sunni and alhamdolilah i have shia friends also and respect them all.. i will wait for 10mins in ramazaan, respect them all and share my food n eat shia’s food as well…. yes in my surroundings many people said shia is kafir kafir kafir.. but i dont think so.. becoz we all are muslim first.. and just for these propoganda’s on such questions we are not able to judge any aqeeda.. my shia friend always said this and i belive in that saying too.. kisi ka aqeeda cherroo na or apna aqeeda choro na… so keep it short and simple we all are muslim first.. sunni shia deobandi wahabi etc is just a sec divided by our own mentality… we are less differrent from each others but having lots of similarities we belive in Allah almighty we believe in muhammad (saw) we believe in Quran Pak.. our wish is to raazi our lord.. thats it…!