Some questions about Imran Khan’s PTI NA-USA LLC – by Ahmed Iqbalabadi
My article earlier this week titled “Imran Khan’s financial credibility?” has not gone down well with his supporters, his fan club members and all those who believe he is a ‘messiah’ for Pakistan. After reading comments and attacks on what was written include, the following came out very prominently:
- Not many read the questions that were raised on Shaukat Khanum Memorial Trust’s (SKMT) financial management and construed it as an attack on the person of Imran Khan, thinking that the author was terming him corrupt.
- It was highlighted that SKMT being a charity dependent on donations has to be run differently than how an Investment Company would be run. What this means is that it has to be a very risk averse organization, emphasizing on the concept of “playing it safe”
- We also highlighted a potential conflict of interest at SKMT’s board level with investments being made in an opportunity in Oman was presented by a board member, Imtiaz Hyderi (incidentally Hyderi is not a BOG member now).
- Why Imran Khan would matter in all this is, that SKMT was his brainchild and an oasis in the way healthcare is tackled in Pakistan, but the fact remains he is SKMT’s board of governors’ chairman and that any issue in its finances and management will question his credibility. If something goes wrong can he get his hands off any responsibility that “I was not managing it”? Also the way all funding is being raised is on the charm of Imran Khan, which is for sure not sustainable in the long run. What would happen if Imran Khan was to die (like all of us have to)? Would SKMT be able to run and raise donations in the same manner?
We have been donors at one time or the other for SKMT. In essence, we are all stakeholders and have the right to question.
Now let us present a comparison to another charity called ‘The Citizens Foundation‘ that is looking to establish schools across Pakistan and to run them professionally. I have donated to them and will continue to do so. Reason why I will do so is the following:
The organization also depends on donations from all just like SKMT. Look at their investments: all in Pakistani Rupee and in assets in Pakistan. All of their investments of Rs 85 million are in Pakistani companies bonds/TFCs. Similarly, deposits are in Pakistani Rupee and Pakistani Banks. Similarly, Rs. 101 million in endowment fund is in Pakistan. And remember, it’s not a small charity. They raised Rs. 693 million in 2010. The BOG members of the TCF are all from corporate sector. Don’t you think they know they can invest abroad too?
Coming to another matter which is Imran Khan’s politics, his current mantra is ‘ghairat’, ‘inqalab’, ‘drone attacks’, ‘Afia Siddiqui’s imprisonment’. He has already interrupted NATO supply in Peshawar for two days last month.
In impressive crowds, one could see Jamat Ud Dawa, Sipah Sahaba and JUI-S supporters and flags. That makes us all the more skeptical of whom he is supporting and getting support from. Imran Khan has announced stopping Nato supplies from Karachi on 21st may. He claims that this is what ‘ghairat’ is all about. So many Pakistanis are killed by drone attacks, according to him, but as I write, 87 Pakistanis have been killed in Shabqadr tehseel, Charsadda district on Friday, 13th May. Probably this was the same argument Dr Pervaiz Hoodbhoy was giving in 2009 that caused Imran Khan to call him ‘american’s security adviser’.
Now coming to the drone attacks, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf claims to be a registered political party in the USA. It goes by the name ‘PTI NA-USA LLC’ and is proud to even declare its annual financial statements on its website, showing their transparency. Who is doing the drone attacks? USA. Who has imprisoned Pakistan ki beti ‘Dr. Afia’? USA. Why is Pakistan suffering these days? Because of support of war on terror to the USA. If these are all true, I dare to question Imran Khan and his Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf about:
- How many demonstrations PTI-NA USA LLC has organized in usa against:
- Drone attacks
- Dr Afia’s imprisonment
- How many protest memos it has submitted to the US Department of Defence, CIA and the White House?
- How many members of US Congress and Senate it has met and apprised of this matter?
If they are a political party registered in the USA, then they have all the right to protest and not be afraid of any repercussions. If they haven’t, then that is to be questioned as well. If they haven’t, is it possibly because they are not registered as a political party but as a limited liability company to organize events for Imran Khan?
These are all legitimate questions which I dare to pose to all Imran Khan fans and supporters. BTW, some of his supporters consider the PPP and PPP’s supporters their enemies. This goes to show their mental maturity. There are no enemies in politics nor foes. I think after all their verbal fights against the MQM, Imran Khan met Altaf Bhai a few days back.
In the end, I reiterate, Imran Khan was my childhood cricketing hero and a lot of fond memories are connected to his cricket, but for sure not with his politics.
I hope I will this time get concrete comments from readers than rhetoric that “Imran Khan is the Only honest and non-corrupt politician of Pakistan who can bring in change.”
co’mon man we have no other choice,we have to bring him this time and now we are committed.sorry boss your all observation have been vain for me.
And you are free to vote any other party,your credibility shows us you will vote for either zardari again or musharaf.All i got is you are jealous to him.
I did not know that Imran Khan’s PTI is registered as a limited liability company in the US. Good find, Ahmed!
I think the writer has raised some valid questions… which need to be addressed by concerns….and they need some serious answers.
Specially when PTI is registered in USA why not they register their protest there? I know the answer…. They protest here to win votes….. Just votes.
So after all its not about “Ghairat” its all bout votes and power game…..
i just do not understand the logic of whole article, PTI NA USA is a legal entity and it is a member baesd party its mission is very clearly stated, accounts are transparent and it has zero overhead, we are answerable to our members, we are the 1st party in USA which collects money legally from members and send money via legal means, file tax return and gets acoount audited and put it in the insaf.pk , you have a problem with an honest effort to bring the change in Pakistan?
you took time to find about PTI, Do you know how much BB had spent to lobby in USA to come in to power and cy=ut a deal with dictator, and where that money came from?
do you know how much TAX Zardari is paying? we all are answerable to Allah.
how do you know we have not protested? we do not need to show you the proof, USA is a free country and we done plenty of protests in USA. you can look at the various facebook pages of PTI USA chapters, we are the only party has an elected body from east to west coast. do not you see Imran khan on CNN? Is he not openly critisizing US policies, again we are not getting money from USA, it is the Govt of Pakistan taking money from USA and killing our own people and keeping their eyes closed. the country has lost everything.No dignity at all.
As for TCF is concerned, they use Imran khan to promote and gets fudn fro public, go and watch their promotional DVD.
i can debate on the isuue of integritry of Imran khan and PTI NA, USA with anyone, i will answer any question, my e mail is [email protected]
i invite all to join PTI and help bring a change. Imran khan is not a power hungary, he wants to bring a change in Pakistan by free and fair elections, and that is why we are supporting him.
HAH bait and catch is working!
What the toadies of Mr 10% don’t know is that Imran and PTI has an open invitation to anyone from Pakistani politcal parties to come and audit all entities belonging to PTI and Imran Khan. Iqbalabadi here is an idea, contact PTI official and request an audit, you are free to bring your chartered accountants but there is a condition, PTI will do an audit of Asif Ali Zardari and Pee Pee Pee.
Capish??
Do we have a deal?
Why should I accept anyone’s challenge? I am not PPP! I am a PPP supporter and voter. Here is the link to PTI-USA website:
http://www.insaf.pk/Chapters/International/UnitedStates/tabid/181/Default.aspx
The news there are as follows:
*Sheikh Elahi appointed as advisor to Chairman on Political & Planning affairs
*Chairman Imran Khan challenges Pakistan govt. to reject all help from US
*Overseas Pakistanis are the biggest asset of Pakistan: PTI Chairman
*PTI USA election results notification
*Fauzi Kasuri attends newly elected PTI New York’s event
*Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf New York elects its first president
*Dallas PTI Elections Press Release
*PTI New York congratulate the party and the people of Pakistan
etc.
Where are the protests in the USA???? Please let us know how you have protested????
My Dear DR Nusrullah Khan
What kind of morality are u talking about?
In my last telephone conversation with u I proved u r a liar like your beloved leader Mr Hazian Khan who also lies day in & day out to promote agenda of Kiani & its military establishment which is mother of all evils.
Mind it like Ahmad Iqbalabadi I am also not PPP! but its critical supporter.
do not get personal, do not use indecent languga, talk about issues. try not to spread the rumors, look at your favourite dictator Musharraf, go find him. you thought Mush was the best man on the face of the earth. let me know how much Tax Zardari is paying? i know you love BB and PPP, atleast respect her last letter to CNN, can you tell me who she has nominated, sit home, drawing room politics does not work, you can support the most coruupt party on the face of earth, at least i am supporting an honest man, i do not worship personality like you.
Logic never works on PTI wallah , If you ask them why you guys supports Imran Khan racist comments when he says talibanization is actually expression of Pakhtun nationalism ? they will replay zardari is corrupt .
Ahmed Iqbalabadi
i do not really need to prove anything to you, i know we have protested, you are looking at wrong place, talk about issues.
http://insaf.pk/Media/Videos/tabid/62/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/6393/Bachey-Maan-Ke-Sachey–Imran-Khan-Mothers-Day-Special-May-8-2011.aspx
see what mothers are saying about Imran khan
My dear Dr Nasrullah Khan
Yes truth does hurt.
Its your beloved leader Mr Hazian Khan who always gets personal uses indecent language..
Yes I had a romance with Bhutto and it live on. Musharaf was never my favourite dictator, yes i still defend some of his actions like women protection bill & action against Lal Masjid. Why should I like a person who I beleve was directly or indirectly involved in BB assasination
I am not a turn coat like you.
Kaaba kis mun sey jao ghey Ghalib
Sharam tum ko maghar naheen aati
A mouse (Mr Hazian Khan) can only roar, its brave people like BB,Salman Taseer, Shabaaz Bhatti who lay down their lives for humanity. We don’t do drawing room politics.
Bring isuues if you want to continue to talk.
how much Tax Zardari pays.
what was in the last letter of BB to CNN,
can you answer. why are you getting personal?
My Dear Dr Nasrullah Khan
Its very obvious who gets personal day in & day out.
No one else but your beloved leader & his followers.
The issue at the moment is very survival of the state. John Kerry has very eloquently raised it today in Mazaar Sharif.
Read Farhat Taj article in Daily Times today.
Its now or otherwise perhaps never.
i know you have no answers to the questions.
If you want to save Pakistan then ask your GOVT.
1: Make an independent election commission.
2: Add 40 million new voters to the list.
3: Get rid off 45% of bogus votes
4: Have a free and fair election on NADRA cards via electronic voting.
Haha. Even though I was sceptical about posts targeting PTI and its sole member I concede Ahmed as it is clearly a success drawing many PTI supporters to our blogzine.
Congratz on a well deserved success.
I found it surprising to see such an article from PPP supporters.. Not sure how dare they even write this rubbish thing talking about “Let’s rebuild Pakistan”.. They are the ones because of which Pakistan is at the place where it is now and these shameless paid puppets even try to deceive further.. It’s probably just a waste of time to even comment on such useless topic when PPP supporter don’t even have a single logical argument to prove in their favor..
Only last hope for Pakistan is Imran Khan.. Let’s support him any way we can and bring an actual change in Pakistan for the good..
Why do you want to stay in prison…??? When the door is so wide open… Move outside the tangle of fear-thinking.. Stand up for Change with Imran Khan.. our only fearless tiger leader.. And Yes together we can rebuild Pakistan with Imran Khan.. inshallah
Say No to US drone strikes… Say NO to Taliban.. Support Imran Khan for Pakistan… May 21 & 22 at Karachi Dharna Protest blocking NATO Supply route. Please support this struggle for PAKISTAN FREEDOM MOVEMENT.. We have to FREE our country from corrupt rulers & illegal war on terror.. Please spread the word & awarenes.. Thanks..
I do not see a single logical answer from any of PPP supporters.. only single sane voice I found on this page is probably Dr Nasrullah Khan..
And all I can say to Dr Khan is: Thanks for your comments and Please help try wake up anyone you can for this country. This is our country and Imran Khan is our only hope to get this country back on its feet inshallah.. Never feel that you are just one person and you can’t do much.. little by little, ordinary people like you and me, we will bring this change inshallah and it will come. Never under estimate yourself, don’t ever just think of yourself as a mere voter only, think that you can be a leader as well.. Ask yourself, are these zardari & his daku tola any better than you? No.. Absolutely No.. as long as your heart & mind is at the right place, you can make a big difference.. It’s on Allah who HE gives success to and who not.. but we should atleast try our best,..
Let’s move one step ahead of just commenting on blogs & places and admiring Imran Khan.. let’s learn what he teach and shows us by example.. an undaunting courage and rock solid faith in Allah.. no other fear besides Allah.. and never back down, never lose hope for your country, fight like tiger and never under estimate yourself.. try to become like him.. try to lead from front.. if you lead only one person, Allah will bless us inshallah.. Thanks
i am waiting for reply from Amjad cheema on my last questions and open the discussion on the issues.
I don’t think Amjad Cheema will have a reply for you.. he just put some rubbish here and he has nothing to back it off.. If he had some proof of Imran Khan using bad language, against anyone, he will be all over media trying to create a fake hype.. as always.. that’s how PPP get’s into power always.. playing with sentiments of innocent Pakistani people.
And his remarks about brave people like BB & Salman Taseer.. ohhhh plzzz give me a breakkk.. They were both slaves of their own money-hungry nature.. they did nothing for this country.. they died in attempt to collect more money and nothing else.. I don’t think Mr Amjad Cheema and his sorry party followers can continue to deceive Pakistani people any longer.. their show is up.. they are just trying to loot whatever is left of this country and will run away as soon as first sign of change appears..
By the way, I applaud PPP for doing “another hand” with Nawaz Shareef.. Poor NS was hoping for his turn after PPP but PPP did so blatent looting & corrputing and blunders that his “turn” is gonna be lost as well by Imran Khan.. hahha..
Imran Khan’s financial credibility? As opposed to what, Zardari’s financial credibility? Or the Shariff brothers’ credibility, regarding anything? And what do you mean, ‘if’ something goes wrong with shaukat khanum? Nothing has went wrong in the last YEARS, and nobody cares about the ‘ifs’ regarding Imran Khan when there are the actual issues to talk about. Khan is saying to stop taking funding from the U.S. govt., not the U.S. citizens of Pakistani ethnicity who just want to one day be proud of their country instead of its dacuits. And there was a protest against Musharraf which also involved the drone attacks, zardari, and aafia siddiqui, but of course you would not mention that, as it was a protest against your favorite dictator. And there was the dharna in Pakistan. What protests have the other political parties organized, be it in Pakistan or U.S??? Are you picking on Imran Khan because he wasn’t able to pay you enough to get you on his side or because you’re with another lying politician? Imran has founded a university and a hospital, which is more than what other politicians can say.
Absolutely right Fatima.. these PPP paid cronies have nothing logical to say.. they are useless to even answer to..
And yes, Imran Khan is probably too good a leader for this nation.. even after sacrifising his celebrity like life and billion dollar worth wife & kids, he could live anywhere in world like a king, any nationality and so much, but he sacrificed his everything for this country, built so many humanitarian projects for this country and even after 15 yrs of his life in politics trying to solve bigger problems of Pakistan, once & for all.. and these corrupt PPP, PMLN and ignorant people still talking rubbish about him… who are they? what’s their own contribution to this nation & country ? nothing.. really nothing.. except they looted this nation of their everything, money, self-esteem, dignity, prosperity and everything else.. but they are shameless.. they still have to come up with baseless articles & blogs like above.. let’s leave them on their own .. may Allah open their blind-folded eyes and give them sense to see the truth and think beyond their personal benifits.. inshallah
@ Sana:
Imran Khan is many things but not a leader.
He is still in denial about Taliban, he drinks himself but advocates a radical Islamised Pakistan. He is against drones and never says anything against Taliban. He disregards the opinions of Pakistani masses and their elected representatives and fails to come up with any alternate policy.
He thinks that it is easy to bring everyone into tax net with the flick of a wand, that he will just order and generals will present themselves for accountability and doesn’t even have a clue as to the dynamics of provincialism, sectarianism and linguistic-ethnic divide that characterize this vibrant nation.
Lastly, me and all the people on this blog do this probono ie free. We believe in the ideology of the party and while we think there is a massive room for improvement in the governments performance we do our bit to improve it while staying within the system. All of us have jobs and we take out time from our lives for things we believe in. Please learn to respect others as I have learned from my political ideals but Mr Imran Khan does not have that in his dictionary.
One more thing:
It is solely because of BB that you sit here to criticize her, the very fact that Pakistan is not Burma or North Korea is because of here.
Her more tangible accomplishments would be covered on 21st June 2011. Please do read.
For Shaheed Salmaan Taseer. Go to renowned Chartered Accountants around the world and they’d tell you about the Pakistani named Salmaan Taseer.
@Saad
– So is Zardari a leader? or Gilani? what sort of leader? leading in looting this country? What is their contribution to Pakistan?
– Imran is not in denial about Taliban, he opposed them from day one, however his way of dealing with them is different, he wants to negotiate with them, let them deal with their stuff in Afghanistan and save our Pakistan from them. You should not blame Imran for something you don’t know (about him drinking or not), he has no radicalized ideas, he is a nationalist and believes in Islam, not a fake mullah or fake liberal like PPP ultra-mod crowd. He said so many things about Taliban, but true and nothing else. Truth is that Taliban were a government in Afghanistan, which Pakistan and so many other countries recognized. Until 9/11 happened and world turned against them. They were rulers of a soverign country, they were midieval people with too strict islamic concepts, but that’s it. If US decided to deal with them through political means, US could have spent just a couple billion dollars on schools, hospitals & business opportunities for Afghans, and bought out OBL and this world will be much better place to live in today. Not this much radicalization all over the globe and imagine how high US would be standing on moral grounds?
– Imran has clear alternative policy and gave it so many times in different programs. If someone don’t have the caliber to read & understand it, we can’t do much about it.
– Bringing people into tax net, it is not as hard as you think, once rule of law is imposed and most powerful are brought to face justice, things will start falling in its place.. Do you have a better strategy? is PPP a better strategy? ohh comme onn.. give me a break.. we tried already Nawaz & MQM & PPP and these are all the same.. fake politicians and actually daku looters criminals.. that’s it..
Who are you talking about to respect? When did you see a PPP leader talking sense & respecting others? Just tell me a single program .. ?? And you asking Imran to respect? When did you saw him dis-respecting your PPP below the belt? He talks logic, he says what is truth and if you don’t like the truth and felt dis-respected, you may want to look at your end what your party is doing wrong..
Why is there this perception in whole country that Zardari & PPP + PMLN looted this country, he’s biggest criminal? He dis-respects Judiciary, he can sell our country for nothing.. why everyone believes that? There’s some truth to it if not all..
@Sana
It would be better we discuss why Imran Khan’s PTI is registered as a limited liability company in the US.
Secondly , you have every right to compare 44 year of democratic credentials of PPP with 16 years democratic struggle of PTI .
You should write a detail replay , We would more than happy to post your rebuttal on our blogzine.
Shakeel Arain
Are you awarev of US LAWS? let me know, i will explain it to you, why we are registered here.
Shakeel Arain
Are you awarev of US LAWS? let me know, i will explain it to you, why we are registered here
Saad
Imran khan does not drink.
Excellent article. Imran Khan is a charming gentleman, definitely a likeable personality, with a great sporting past- I really believe he loves Pakistan and wants the best for it, but he is over his head in politics. I actually think he means well, but he is being played by masters at the political game.
@Saad Why it bothers you that PTI is registered as LLC with Department of Justice in US? Please explain logic behind your query?
Secondly, I really don’t have time to discuss useless topics trying to compare PTI & Imran Khan with PPP.. ohh please, just don’t even talk further.. I can debate for hours on “44 yrs of PPP democratic struggle”.. I don’t want you.. just tell me after this 44 years of PPP’s democratic struggle, where is Pakistan today? Are you happy with your party’s 44 yrs of achievements? Now don’t start blaming PMLN and others, as PPP was in corridors of powers one way or the other, alongwith 3 regimes of corruption that further ditched this country downwards..
And you talking about Imran Khan drinking? Any proof? There are pictures of Zardari drinking with Chinese premier, Shah Mahmood quereshi drinking, Salman tasseer, haha don’t even mention, he drinks like a fish, always Tunnn after 5:00PM.. you talking about Imran Khan.. that’s the truth of your face, go see it in mirror, really you will see a hideous face of your so called PPP who paid you probably to write such crap here.. go do something better for yourself and your country..
@Rusty Walker,
If you even know basics about Imran Khan, he’s one person who can’t be steered by anyone else.. He’s a Pathan.. and they don’t take dictation.. Imran is a politician who is too good for this nation, the only problem is that he tries to do thing the right way.. he will neve take a short cut.. he wasted 15 yrs of his life struggling to bring a change in Pakistan.. but we owe him his 15 yrs of political struggle, because people like us were fast asleep before.. but not any more.. we are fully awake now and we will bring him to power, in very near future.. and then you may write again about him that “politics is not over his head” rather he will change this country like Mahateer Muhammad changed Malaysia and Lee Kyon Yee changed Singapore.. This talented nation of Pakistan will also rise once again.. beyone anyone’s imaginations.. You will see it before your own eyes very soon.
@Shakeel Arain
Why it bothers you that PTI is registered as LLC with Department of Justice in US? Please explain logic behind your query?
Secondly, I really don’t have time to discuss useless topics trying to compare PTI & Imran Khan with PPP.. ohh please, just don’t even talk further.. I can debate for hours on “44 yrs of PPP democratic struggle”.. I don’t want you.. just tell me after this 44 years of PPP’s democratic struggle, where is Pakistan today? and I rest my case..
You must be happy with your party’s 44 yrs of achievements with current situation of Pakistan.. you guys really achieved what you wanted, right? Now don’t start crying fould blaming PMLN and others, as PPP was in corridors of powers one way or the other, alongwith 3 regimes of corruption that further ditched this country downwards..
And you talking about Imran Khan drinking? Any proof? Didn’t you just said that Imran always point personal issues and who pointed out this drinking thing now? Isn’t it Imran’s personal matter with his Allah.. what does it have to do affecting millions of poor people that are drying in your PPP regime? he didn’t looted every single penny from these poor people of Pakistan like your PPP daku mafia.. He didn’t kept masses in Sindh illetrate and slaved to keep voting for them, what did your BB & Zardari did in Sindh for it’s betterment? Is it worth a place to live after 44 years of your party’s “Democratic struggle”
Also about drinking, There are pictures of Zardari drinking with Chinese premier all over the internet, Shah Mahmood quereshi drinking, Bilawal partying in disco with drink in his hand, just google Bilawal and you will see yourself.. and your so-called shaheed Salman tasseer, haha don’t even mention, he drinks like a fish, always Tunnnnn in evening hours.. and you blaming Imran, because you don’t have anything logical to say against him?? chh chh .. so bad, come prepared next time if you can.. These crappy remarks won’t take you any further.. Pakistan is changed and we will bring positive change in it, unlike your 44 yrs of corruption rule..
Imran Khan is a great & brave leader of this coward & asleep nation.. but he is actually too good a leader for this nation, who has still not fully realized Imran Khan after 15 years of his politics and 50 years of his life infront of them..
We.. truly salute you Imran Khan, for your courage, for your sacrifice for this asleep nation, for your great leadership by example and for being such a blessing for everyone.. May Allah Almighty keep you in HIS warm & loving care, May you become Prime Minister of Pakistan and change it for good, forever.. amen
Are these people trying to fix their country or shooting randomly at opposition leaders? At least Imran Khan is trying to fix something, maybe he’s not the best at it, but at least he’s trying and if you don’t like what he’s doing why don’t you try to fix your country first and see how hard it is because of people like you.
How easy it is for Imran Khan Fan club to deflect the questions by asking how much tax Zardari has paid, without ever telling how much Tax Imran Khan pays in Pakistan, England and other places from where he earns.
@Ahmed Iqbalabadi
So after reading so many logical comments above, that’s the best argument you come up with? I feel sorry for you, really..
Imran Khan paid 18 lacs a year ago and 22 lacs this year. He made his tax statements public and they are on insaf website, just in case you bother to look? Imran published his tax when he bought the house..
Should I now say anything about your respected Mr 10% and his tax returns? his billions of dollars of looted money stashed in Swiss & foreign accounts? His properties in US, UK, Europe and Dubai? About billions of dollars in bank accounts that BB told Bilawal on phone and CIA recorded that info and published in a book as a proof?
Come on Ahmed Iqbalabadi, find something solid to argue on, or if you dare to kick off the money PPP paid to write these rubbish comments here, then search for the truth and search for a better leader who actually could do something for this country.. By trying to save PPP and daku mafia, you may gain temporary benifit of some small money, but you will pay heavily with faltering situation in Pakistan and when everyone in Pakistan will be affected by loadshedding, businesses not working, people laid off and hunger and so much more, do you think you will be safe from all this? Do you think this falling security condition and financial troubles will not reach you and your family? Try open up your eyes and search the truth, do something that’s better for Pakistan, not yourself.. you will ultimately be benificial..
Attention: All Pseudo-leftist douches:
Protest in Newyork against drone attacks and War in Afghanistan, Check out these picture:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.165861653474211.40402.142178665842510
Shame on toadies of Mr 10% who are so high because of constant butt sniffing of Bhuttos.
Iqbalabadi, you didn’t accept my challenge, WHY NOT? Find yourself a ratehole to hide in now!!
BTW, nice attempts of increasing traffic to your pathetic excuse of a blog.
You have been served and from now on you’ll be on the ignore list!!
Imran Khan, Munawar Hassan aur Hafiz Saeed Sahiban INqalab Layen Ge. InshaALLAH.
Musalman, bhai aap pakkey satirist lagney kage hain, aap kehtey kuch hain mutlab kuch aur hota hey.
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1553 for your reading pleasure
http://www.insaf.pk/docs/PTI-Final-manifesto-Urdu.pdf
PTI is a good addition in Pakistan’s political scene but we must be careful if old wine is presented in new bottle or it has something genuine to offer. Change is a very good word, but we have right to know what does it mean by change? above link is the manifesto of PTI in Urdu, please take a moment to read this, then ask question, if there is a clear explanation on how those promises (made in that manifesto) will be fulfilled? it is a big gap, and very big question, is it an attempt to lure people or a serious, well considered, through and practical plan? This manifesto does not look like a bit different than those of many others.
@ ahmed iqbalabadi
“How easy it is for Imran Khan Fan club to deflect the questions by asking how much tax Zardari has paid, without ever telling how much Tax Imran Khan pays in Pakistan, England and other places from where he earns.”
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so why do you keep avoiding this question… just answer it honestly so the “fan club” stop asking it??
IK has mentioned in a few programs about how much tax he pays (exp. the program in which talat hussain also mentioned his taxes)
@ Ahmed Iqbalabadi
Just a simple question:
How much tax has Zardari paid in last three years?
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forget about all the decades old taxes…. just last three years…..
My Dear Dr Nasrullah Khan & your PTI
You will never discuss the real issues & always deflect questions as Iqbalabadi has rightly said.
Naach na janey
Aangan tayrra
Obviously u r in a state of shock as u recently lost your spiritual godfather OBL.
@ Saad
“It is solely because of BB that you sit here to criticize her”
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wah wah…. aaik dafa ka zikar hai…. junoon band released a song “ehtesab” … which was banned by the then government
@ cheema
“You will never discuss the real issues & always deflect questions as Iqbalabadi has rightly said.”
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so why don’t you simply answer the basic question so the PTI cannot deflect you from the “real” issues….
just the basic question… how much tax Zardari paid in last three years?
by the way how much tax did you pay?? …. or perhaps u do not even realize that as a citizen of this country you have to pay tax?? ur Zardari can take care of this non-payment of taxes by taking more loans…. don’t worry in three years our loans have doubled… if zardari keeps on progressing with this speed PPP will reach its goal of quadrupling the loans… jaey bhutoo!
@ shakeel arain
Logic never works on PTI wallah , If you ask them why you guys supports Imran Khan racist comments when he says talibanization is actually expression of Pakhtun nationalism ? they will replay zardari is corrupt .
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Logic actually does not work with pipliyays, if you ask them why you support Zardari who does not even pay his taxes? they will replay imran is taliban.
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Shame on toadies of Mr 10% who are so high because of constant butt sniffing of Bhuttos.
Iqbalabadi, you didn’t accept my challenge, WHY NOT? Find yourself a ratehole to hide in now!!
BTW, nice attempts of increasing traffic to your pathetic excuse of a blog.
You have been served and from now on you’ll be on the ignore list!!
@Ahmed Iqbalabadi
So after reading so many logical comments above, that’s the best argument you come up with? I feel sorry for you, really..
Imran Khan paid 18 lacs a year ago and 22 lacs this year. He made his tax statements public and they are on insaf website, just in case you bother to look? Imran published his tax when he bought the house..
Should I now say anything about your respected Mr 10% and his tax returns? his billions of dollars of looted money stashed in Swiss & foreign accounts? His properties in US, UK, Europe and Dubai? About billions of dollars in bank accounts that BB told Bilawal on phone and CIA recorded that info and published in a book as a proof?
Come on Ahmed Iqbalabadi, find something solid to argue on, or if you dare to kick off the money PPP paid to write these rubbish comments here, then search for the truth and search for a better leader who actually could do something for this country.. By trying to save PPP and daku mafia, you may gain temporary benifit of some small money, but you will pay heavily with faltering situation in Pakistan and when everyone in Pakistan will be affected by loadshedding, businesses not working, people laid off and hunger and so much more, do you think you will be safe from all this? Do you think this falling security condition and financial troubles will not reach you and your family? Try open up your eyes and search the truth, do something that’s better for Pakistan, not yourself.. you will ultimately be benificial..
Fan Club of Imran Khan is still much better than “paid club of PPP crooks”..
Your choice of supporting Zardari daku mafia is beyond comprehension of any sensible person.. I don’t think its even worth responding to your baseless questions..
So go have fun with your party..
With ths fast asleep nation and daku mafia politicians and selfish army rulers.. anything could happen.. We are in much much deeper troubles than anyone in Pakistan is willing to accept of imagine… I really dont understand how and when this nation will wake up to protect themseleves..
I really don’t have time to discuss useless topics trying to compare PTI & Imran Khan with PPP.. ohh please, just don’t even talk further.. I can debate for hours on “44 yrs of PPP democratic struggle”.. I don’t want you.. just tell me after this 44 years of PPP’s democratic struggle, where is Pakistan today? and I rest my case..
You must be happy with your party’s 44 yrs of achievements with current situation of Pakistan.. you guys really achieved what you wanted, right? Now don’t start crying fould blaming PMLN and others, as PPP was in corridors of powers one way or the other, alongwith 3 regimes of corruption that further ditched this country downwards..
And you talking about Imran Khan drinking? Any proof? Didn’t you just said that Imran always point personal issues and who pointed out this drinking thing now? Isn’t it Imran’s personal matter with his Allah.. what does it have to do affecting millions of poor people that are drying in your PPP regime? he didn’t looted every single penny from these poor people of Pakistan like your PPP daku mafia.. He didn’t kept masses in Sindh illetrate and slaved to keep voting for them, what did your BB & Zardari did in Sindh for it’s betterment? Is it worth a place to live after 44 years of your party’s “Democratic struggle”
Also about drinking, There are pictures of Zardari drinking with Chinese premier all over the internet, Shah Mahmood quereshi drinking, Bilawal partying in disco with drink in his hand, just google Bilawal and you will see yourself.. and your so-called shaheed Salman tasseer, haha don’t even mention, he drinks like a fish, always Tunnnnn in evening hours.. and you blaming Imran, because you don’t have anything logical to say against him?? chh chh .. so bad, come prepared next time if you can.. These crappy remarks won’t take you any further.. Pakistan is changed and we will bring positive change in it, unlike your 44 yrs of corruption rule..
Guys, dont you find it surprising to see such an article from PPP supporters.. Not sure how dare they even write this rubbish thing talking about “Let’s rebuild Pakistan”.. They are the ones because of which Pakistan is at the place where it is now and these shameless paid puppets even try to deceive further.. It’s probably just a waste of time to even comment on such useless topic when PPP supporter don’t even have a single logical argument to prove in their favor.. these PPP paid cronies have nothing logical to say.. they are useless to even answer to..
And yes, Imran Khan is probably too good a leader for this nation.. even after sacrifising his celebrity like life and billion dollar worth wife & kids, he could live anywhere in world like a king, any nationality and so much, but he sacrificed his everything for this country, built so many humanitarian projects for this country and even after 15 yrs of his life in politics trying to solve bigger problems of Pakistan, once & for all.. and these corrupt PPP, PMLN and ignorant people still talking rubbish about him… who are they? what’s their own contribution to this nation & country ? nothing.. really nothing.. except they looted this nation of their everything, money, self-esteem, dignity, prosperity and everything else.. but they are shameless.. they still have to come up with baseless articles & blogs like above.. let’s leave them on their own .. may Allah open their blind-folded eyes and give them sense to see the truth and think beyond their personal benifits.. inshallah
Only last hope for Pakistan is Imran Khan.. Let’s support him any way we can and bring an actual change in Pakistan for the good..
I question you PPP paid-Fan club:
– So is Zardari a leader? or Gilani? what sort of leader? leading in looting this country? What is their contribution to Pakistan?
– Imran is not in denial about Taliban, he opposed them from day one, however his way of dealing with them is different, he wants to negotiate with them, let them deal with their stuff in Afghanistan and save our Pakistan from them. You should not blame Imran for something you don’t know (about him drinking or not), he has no radicalized ideas, he is a nationalist and believes in Islam, not a fake mullah or fake liberal like PPP ultra-mod crowd. He said so many things about Taliban, but true and nothing else. Truth is that Taliban were a government in Afghanistan, which Pakistan and so many other countries recognized. Until 9/11 happened and world turned against them. They were rulers of a soverign country, they were midieval people with too strict islamic concepts, but that’s it. If US decided to deal with them through political means, US could have spent just a couple billion dollars on schools, hospitals & business opportunities for Afghans, and bought out OBL and this world will be much better place to live in today. Not this much radicalization all over the globe and imagine how high US would be standing on moral grounds?
– Imran has clear alternative policy and gave it so many times in different programs. If someone don’t have the caliber to read & understand it, we can’t do much about it.
– Bringing people into tax net, it is not as hard as you think, once rule of law is imposed and most powerful are brought to face justice, things will start falling in its place.. Do you have a better strategy? is PPP a better strategy? ohh comme onn.. give me a break.. we tried already Nawaz & MQM & PPP and these are all the same.. fake politicians and actually daku looters criminals.. that’s it..
– Who are you talking about to respect? When did you see a PPP leader talking sense & respecting others? Just tell me a single program .. ?? And you asking Imran to respect? When did you saw him dis-respecting your PPP below the belt? He talks logic, he says what is truth and if you don’t like the truth and felt dis-respected, you may want to look at your end what your party is doing wrong..
– Why is there this perception in whole country that Zardari & PPP + PMLN looted this country, he’s biggest criminal? He dis-respects Judiciary, he can sell our country for nothing.. why everyone believes that? There’s some truth to it if not all..
You are in your senses! You called Imran a nationalist as well as muslim
Hazrat Iqbal Rehmatullah says
tehzib k Aazar ne tarshway sanam aur
in taza khudaon mey bara sab se watan hei
jo pairhan iska hai, wo “mazhab ka kafan” hei
@ Sana:
Haha. I do not have problem with anyone drinking though I do have a problem with hypocrisy. I’ll get you pics as soon as I get time to find them. Its not even an issue as far as I am concerned.
The issue is his policy ir denial regarding Taliban. The issue is that he chooses to ignore the fact that long before 9/11 Taliban openly refused to handover men involved in target killing of shias and ahmedis but also advised the then foreign minister, I think it was Sartaj Aziz (not sure though) that these people have done God’s work and are ghazis hence we will not hand them over. This is the Afghan Taliban Imran Khan talks of supporting.
Truth is that Taliban was recognised by three countries and it started target killings and blast in one of them. Truth is that Imran Khan asks the government to withdraw support from US but has no plan as to how will he flush out terrorists from North Waziristan. Truth is that he supported Lal Masjid moulvi who openly threatened to suicide bomb places across Pakistan. The list of truth is endless including many truths of his personal life according to which he is a criminal as far as Pakistani law is concerned. And yeah Zardari is probably a bit immature to be a leader but you guys took care of our real beacon of hope, didn’t you? Martyred by your taliban cronies and precious military?
Also the achievments of PPP include:
Nuclear power;
Missle technology;
Providing the country with a electricity generation system which it currently relying on, which your beloved Army did not mother to upgrade;
A multi-dimensional foreign policy, refocused on by the current cadre;
Constitution of 1973;
Extension of Pakistan’s Exclusive Economic Zone;
Massive electrification and gasification of rural areas through out Pakistan;
Reviving the rural economy (yes kindly bother visiting a rural are);
Port Qasim;
Pakistan Steel Mills;
Hundreds of prime higher educational institutes through out the lesser urban areas of Pakistan;
Further details and a more extensive list can be provided if you want.
@Janjua,
How come the facebook pictures you talked about dont have a single PTI flag? Arent you registered there in the US? How many memorandum you have submitted??!?
Ahmed Iqbalabadi
do you have a problem with that? Do not you see Imran khan Picture, Each cahpetr is independent and elected and has its own desing, we are not a hereditary( “Mauroosi”) party.
Do you know how people protets in USA?
Why are you so worried about PTI registartion in USA.?
BB were registered here and Zardari is also registered, BB has spent lots of money to higher a lobbyist to cut a deal with the dictator Mush, go to http://www.fara.gov where that money came from?
Amjad cheema can not answer any question let us see what you say. you want to build pakistan, To build pakistan we need money, do you know how much PPP has borrowed in last three years to destroy the future of Pakistan. now answer
1: How much Tax zardari pays to build pakistan?
next question.
2: what was in BB’s last letter to CNN.
Next Question
3: i know you and Amjad love Bhutto, then tell me who is Babar Awan?
do not run around answer these questions, so we can discuss issues.
Sana has answered your question about Imran Khan’s tax, now you answer our question about zardari’s tax.
“Imran Khan paid 18 lacs a year ago and 22 lacs this year. He made his tax statements public and they are on insaf website, just in case you bother to look? Imran published his tax when he bought the house..”
The reason the facebook pictures don’t have the flag is because we do not show off our party at every turn, if you want to join, you join, but opposition to drones does not just reside in PTI, there are plenty of non Desi Americans who oppose it as well. You may notice, we do not show PTI flag at flood donation dinners, etc. These pictures are under an album labeled “Imran Khan.”
What cowards. Sitting at home and shooting point blank at opposition leaders. Do you do anything for your country? I know that many of these people are paying members of PTI. Do you have anything better to do except ask random questions about Imran’s credibility that you already know the answer to? Dr Nasrullah has personally helped organize several fund-raising dinners and the Mush protest, both of which I attended. What have you done for your country? What protests did you help attend, let alone organize? Let’s face it, all you do it sit at home writing bogus articles about Imran.
@Saad
Let me answer that list you made
Nuclear power: where does load shedding come from? Or does the nuclear power only go to the richest?
Missile technology: who are you going to attack? maybe you should use your corrupt money elsewhere.
Power system: again where does load shedding come from. and why does you beloved president house’s electricity come from? also we do not like our army, they are just as corrupt as you and your other friends are.
Foreign policy: Very multi-dimensional, the only rule is obey America and let them launch drones of off your own air base. by the way, how come usama was living so close to your own corrupt military base? why did you not launch a missile and destroy his house with your missile system? nice.
Constitution that Zulifkhar made. I believe we were talking about the current PPP?
Massive electrification etc.: where does load shedding come from? and if there was gas, why does every house in the rural areas have no stoves?
Reviving the rural economy: It was not dead and didn’t need to be ‘revived’ in the first place. all you did was sell all of its agriculture. there are mountains of natural capital in Pakistan, and you are selling it to other countries and keeping all the money to yourself.
Port Qasim: Again, Zulfikhar did that, not Zardari. Where does the money go to? your corrupt government?
Pakistan steel mills: let me guess, all the proceeds go to zardari and company.
Higher education that no one can afford? I’ve seen people from those schools, they speak broken Urdu because all they’re taught is in English. Are you teaching the kids to be proud of their country?
by the way, how come your beloved government has moved UP on the corruption chart?
Imran Khan has made the only free cancer treatment hospital in Pakistan, funded schools, created a university, helped with flood relief, and done protests and he has not even been elected yet.
@amjad Cheema
How come you can start all of your letter with “My dear nasrullah” and then call him a two-faced liar?
We want ISSUES, not bad stuff about Nasrullah.
PTI USA LLC has donated thousands of dollars to all facets of life in pakistan.
and please use decent language.
@Cheema
our spiritual god father is not OBL, i think it he is yours.
and talk about the issues: he is not an issue, it is that you government let him build a fortified house in the middle of your beloved armies base. without you knowing about. what a lie.
@Saad,
You pointed out about drinking, then you backed off when questions on Zardari’s drinking photos, Bilawal Disco & drinking & dancing with girls photos, and thousands of Salman Taseer’s photos on drinking and you asking about Imran? Comme on, go wash your face, it looks hideous in mirror.. you have absolutely no logic behind your arguments.. no wonder you are still sticking with PPPPPP which has destroyed whatever left of Pakistan in last 3 years.. not to mention your first Bhutta who made Pakistan lost Bangladesh in 1971 as well.. You guys are not even worth responding to.
I feel pity for PPP jiyalas crying here with this useless article and then illogical points to trying in vein prove their point.. what a rediculous behavior from PPP & Bhutto supporter who give a damn to where Pakistan is now, still trying to support their Zardari daku & tola.. no wonder our nation is spiraling downwards due to these people, when we have pathetic folks like PPP jiyalas, who need enemies of Pakistan?? good job guys, keep it up, we will keep our efforts to save Pakistan from enemies like you.. and come next elections, we will inshallah tear your party apart..
Don’t worry Sana, according to Iqbalabadi he gets paid 5 million rupees per article. That is probably why he is writing articles about the ifs, whens, and maybes of Imran Khan’s foundations and politics. How sad it is that just by writing that Imran supports Taliban (which he doesn’t) he got a few misguided people who didn’t bother researching it to stop donating to Shaukat Khanum, which, by the way, has nothing to do with PTI. If you want to stop donating for cancer patients because of politics, then you are not human. Are you people trying to fix Pakistan or just sit at home and ask about other parties’ protests when you yourself haven’t organized or went to any?
@janjua, how in the world this demonstration in Syracuse, NY was a Pakistan tehreek e insaf USA demonstration? It seems these pictures were copied from elsewhere and uploaded in your Facebook page. Honestly, this is the height of plagiarism. There doesn’t seem to be any picture of your own supporters. If you claim that Americans were in this demo and they want stoppage of drones then using your same metric when some idiots demonstrated outside a mosque on yorba Linda California calling all Muslims as perverts and killers, then do they reflect all of America?
@Athar Ahmed
When was the last time PPP in USA did any protest for any Pakistani cause? Did you dare to speak up for war on terror or drones or corruption or load shedding or inflation.. any of the issues that matter to ordinary pakistani?
I am not talking about dollar showering ‘protest’ on Kaira & other criminals in NYC with Limos & party girls hired to ‘protest’..
PPP will never talk about problems of ordinary Pakistanis, because for them they dont exist.. for them they are meant to be treated like Sindhi haari’s who are shackled in chains for slavery and kept illetrate so they keep voting their vadeera masters.. and PPP keep comming in power.. that’s what you call humanity? And that’s your logic to question PTI? Shame on you
For PTI, an Aabpara production (ISI HQ)
Itni na barha paki e daman ki hikayat
Daman ko zara dekh band e qaba dekh
Okay when it comes to individual taxes then can any one from angel’s brigade tell how much tax did Mr Hazian Khan pay when he did pepsi cola ad.
OBL was your spiritual godfather in whose support u took out procession in Pishawar, Mr Hazian khan has already admitted it in one of the talk shows.
Amjad Cheema
is this your answer. i thought you live in a civilized country? Learn something at least from the country you are living in. my advise to you is do not pay tax for one year and see what happens.
Everyone clap! We are talking about corruption and property tax and cheema is talking about pepsi cola! What is it? Did ppp not pay you enough to get a cola?
Off that subject, why is my icon color changing?
And if you can’t talk intelligently about tax are we supposed to believe your trash about imran khan?
For Angel’s & Ghairat Brigade Yes truth hurts when u r faced with it.
Police marey ghi to iqilab kaisey lain ghey
What a revolutionary u r! In fact its a party of eunuchs.
Amjad Cheema
you are right about that comment, it perfactly fits people like you and PPP, who can not put a hand on BB’s murderers or can not live without people like Babar Awan who was distributing “mithai” on Bhutto’s death and what about your leader Gillani? Is that what you have ?
how about giving gaurd of honor to Mush and help him go out of country.
what was in the last letter of BB to CNN., if you are not eunuch then answer. Is that how you and your Inqlababadi are rewarding the soul of your leader.
What truth? The truth that just hit me is that amjad cheema is unable to stay on topic and lacks much insight. Yes, you are right that does hurt pretty bad…. For you.
Oh jaisey app ne both kuch Pakistan ki liye kiya…
Two can play at this game of changing the subject pointedly. Let’s stop talking about pepsi and talk about issues.
@ Nosher:
Our beloved PTI supporter inquired the PPP performance during its entire history not the current one. She is pointed out that neither Zardari, nor the previous incumbents did anything. Please read the question being asked before going ballistic.
Also, rural economy did not need reviving? Please pick up the facts! The rural growth rate during the past ten years. And please enlighten me as to what rural treasures have been sold to foreigners?
Let alone rural, the government has not taken a single privatization program.
PPP is not protesting the drone attacks because as fart as I and many of its supporters are concerned they are doing a good job of killing the terrorists, something which are army has failed to do.
Please also read our articles on the corruptions perception index and how it was worked out.
@ Sana:
Alas but you will never learn manners would you. Just to assure you my face looks fine or I would be issued a warning at the place I work.
While ZAB played his part in the 1971 debacle please read the entire history to know who is responsible. Or why did army invade India in the first place when there was already civil war going on in the country.
Also, please read the context of me mentioning Imran Khan’s drinking. I said he drink while supports a radicalised Islamic Pakistan. Salmaan Taseer, Bilawal, Zardar and others don’t, they’d have a secular _Pakistan if they had their way.
For the past three years people like you have been predicting doom while apart from power crisis and budget deficit all economic indicators of this country are stable, o I bet you didn’t know that did you? Perhaps if you actually bother to read the facts on the business page rather than headlines on Jang and News you’d know.
@ Nasrullah Khan
Wah Subhan Allah at your twist
I mentioned about Pepsi Cola ad in Pakistan & not in UK
Your beloved leader did not declare its income. Mr Shahjehan ITO (my classfellow in G.C.Lahore)sent him a notice. He is not only intelectually corrupt but also financially corrupt. He is also a product of a corrupt family. Do wait my article on his finaclial & intelectual corruption.
About your questione on electoral reform, yes these will happen but for PTI
Na no man tail ho gha
Na rada nachey ghi
Yes I love ZAB & BB. My romance with ZAB started in 1967 & lives on. I am not PPP, I never formally joined it.
I have been following this debate with interest. After having returned from the US with a master’s degree, I wanted to join and work for an NGO like SKMT and vote for PTI. However, I am disturbed by the level of comments by PTI supporters. I have read plenty of criticism of Zardari and his corruption allegations some of which have been disproven. However, I don’t understand why PTI supporters are bringing in Zardari whom they have ALREADY declared corrupt and why they are getting so bothered about this article. This article is simply asking questions.
In the last 3 years since I returned, I was horrified to see Imran Khan’s ostrich view of the Taliban and in all the tv shows he is defending them or talking about negotiations with them or denying their crimes. Hardly, anything about their victims. He is on nearly every night and on multiple channels and is always supported by two similar rightwing Pro Taliban hosts and guests and sometimes a rare liberal anti Taliban voice like Prof. Hoodbhoy. This made me decide to not support his political ambitions. Now I hear he is being supported by the ISI….
I still supported Imran Khan’s charity work. However, when I see the intense opposition to simple questions, not allegations, I am beginning to wonder. If there is nothing wrong, why are PTI supporters getting so excited and continuously trying to change the topic to Zardari in a comment section of an Imran Khan article! Very suspicious. If Zardari is proven to be correct, then what is the point bringing him into this debate unless it is to prove that Imran Khan and Zardari are similar. Look LUBP, I don’t support PPP but why are PTI supporters getting so worked up about?
Also, this article does not prove any corruption on the part of Imran Khan. However, it does ask questions. Normally, even these questions are nothing serious but for someone as puritanical like Imran Khan who makes vicious attacks against other politicians, the standards are set even higher. He talks about brown sahib mentality and who such brown sahibs are enamoured of all things West and then he marries a White women. He talks of Ghairat but does not wish to educate his children here. He sets super high standards and then fails to meet them in his private and professional life. Does this make Imran Khan corrupt. IMO, NO, not unless someone can prove that the money he takes for charity is then not properly distributed. Still does this make him as corrupt as the allegations against Zardari? NO but then Imran has made such high standards that he might be corrupt as per his high standards, not of mere mortals like me. Still, I don’t think he is corrupt but he is definitely one twisted hypocrite whose intentions cannot be trusted.
Imran Khan may not be corrupt but he is definitely a supporter of the Taliban and other extremists who are killing thousands of Pakistanis. One can be a PPP supporter and yet critisize the wrong actions of its party leaders. Those who cannot accept criticism and come on fixed shows with no hard questions are not leaders but fascists! If PPP elected MNA Jamshed Dashti took help from the Sipah Sahaba for his election, I condemn him and the party for this. Can you PTI wallas say the same about your Imran Khan?
Abid Khan
SKM and pti are not related at all, if you need information regarding SKM you need to talk to SKM not here. i know pti but i do not know SKM, SKM people do not come on this site.
@saad
It is odd that you criticize sana for not having manners. Look at the tone that you use. There are no ‘lesser urban areas’ they are simply poorer. The two are totally different. Sana said zardari and bb did nothing. Maybe you should read the comment before ‘going ballistic.’
As said before we should use decent language and be respectful.
Khan supporting radical Islam… What a joke.
“سبحان الله سنا ہے “طالبان” خان برطانیہ میں امریکی ایمبیسی کے سامنے مظاہرہ کرنے کا پروگرام بنا رہے ہیں ، تا کہ وہ امریکا سے پاکستان اور امت اسلامیہ کے محسن عظیم ،فاتح افغانستان و صومالیہ و وزیرستان ، مجاہد ے بے بدل، “غازی” بن “لادین” شہید” پر کیے جانے والے جان لیوا حملے پر احتجاج کر سکیں، تمام اسلامی بھائیوں اور بہنوں سے شرکت کی دعوت عام ہے . شامل ہو کر ثواب دارین حاصل کریں
@ Nosher:
Lesser urban areas means less developed or cosmopolitan or with rural areas in its midst. Its not a derogatory term and certainly does not mean poor.
The tone? Please enlighten me sir on my tone. I certainly do not wish to be rude in case I have done so inadvertently.
I do not have time to point out tone. If you can’t see it for yourself, then I surely can’t help.
This discussion is going nowhere. We are only discussing issues, not firing random gossip about imran and the Taliban, which never made sense to me. If you have something to talk about, provide citation. That is my suggestion. Take it or leave it, but if you leave it, I’m leaving too. There’s no point in what we are currently doing.
@ Nosher:
You are right this debate is going round and round. How about you provide me with a real email id and write me an article for what exactly is Imran Khan’s policy on Taliban. Since he does not want operation to be conducted against them and wants all their crimes even those way before 9/11 to be pardoned we fail to understand how in the earth does he not support them in doing so.
I already emailed you with the address you gave but it apparently bounced back. Kindly send me an email on [email protected] if you are interested.
Lahore – The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf (PTI), Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) and the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) teamed up with the outlawed Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) on Sunday to declare slain al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden the ‘martyr of Islam’ at the Istehkaam-e-Pakistan Caravan on The Mall….
Read More: http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2011/05/bin-ladin-is-a-martyr/
I think LUBP team should write letters to British and American embassies and to their foriegn offices and inform them about support of Imran Khan´s political party for Banned Organizations like Jamat e Dawa and sympathies of PTI with Osama Bin Laden.
UK and USA should be asked to ban Imran Khan´s entry in Europe and in USA. Most probably he is using these tours to brainwash Pakistani origined youth living in the west. in any case Imran Khan has two faces and now it is time for west to recognise his true face i.e. an extremist and terrorist sympathiser and ban his further entries into their respective countries
LUBP team should take an initative to expose Imran Khan
Imran Khan is a great leader, he can get few thousand votes for his PTI in the next election for sure. And after 50 years or so may be his party gains the majority in the National Assembly. Zardari may be having assets in foreign countries, Imran has kids. Zardari et al might be having black money, Imran has had white wives abroad. Zardari is no match with Imran.
Imran Khan would be Prime Minister of Pakistan, Abdul Sattar Edhi – President of Pakistan, Ansar Burni – Finance Minister. Pakistan would be paradise on planet Jupiter.
Saad, i believe nasrullah gave his email for discussion, [email protected], why havent you talked to him? My email is defunct.
in my persnol opinion imran is a famous celebrity instead of a good political leader…. there is no doubt that there is no other party who feel imran khan as a serious threat.
imran khan is the only entity of PTI. there is no other person in PTI who can speak, i think.
and all the protests etc… needs the heavy investment upon them. in my eye the ISI and the pakistani state wants to appear new alternative face among masses they first tried on the Jamiat and arrange protsets but the results are against their thoughts.
then the tried MQM and made heavy investment on the propaganda that it is the national party instead of the party and mafia of the karachi, the propagated that it also exist in the punjab and we can easily see that how media acts upon the given instructions of ISI and state and how the people gathered in the Lahore convention of MQM all of them the media are paid by the MQM mafia leaders, and the doubled their weekly so called protection amount by the people of karachi..
Now they are going to present their new debut actor normaly known as Imran khan, made heavy investment on it, in peshawor protest, in karachi protest, in faisalabad protest and now in Capital isalamabad,
he only told the youth about the symptoms of disease but not tell them the medication of it…..
in short he only do that, what ISI tells him to do..
so he can do nothing to solve the problem of majority of pakistan. and yes the majority of paksitan (the working class) don’t think about him as an alternative ..
and yes he is the popular leader of the frustrated middle class youth as we can see in these comments… and they are of 15-20 persent
thanx
awais qani.
isb pakistan,
[email protected]
hunh !!
in my persnol opinion imran is a famous celebrity instead of a good political leader…. there is no doubt that there is no other party who feel imran khan as a serious threat.
imran khan is the only entity of PTI. there is no other person in PTI who can speak, i think.
and all the protests etc… needs the heavy investment upon them. in my eye the ISI and the pakistani state wants to appear new alternative face among masses they first tried on the Jamiat and arrange protsets but the results are against their thoughts.
then the tried MQM and made heavy investment on the propaganda that it is the national party instead of the party and mafia of the karachi, the propagated that it also exist in the punjab and we can easily see that how media acts upon the given instructions of ISI and state and how the people gathered in the Lahore convention of MQM all of them the media are paid by the MQM mafia leaders, and the doubled their weekly so called protection amount by the people of karachi..
Now they are going to present their new debut actor normaly known as Imran khan, made heavy investment on it, in peshawor protest, in karachi protest, in faisalabad protest and now in Capital isalamabad,
he only told the youth about the symptoms of disease but not tell them the medication of it…..
in short he only do that, what ISI tells him to do..
so he can do nothing to solve the problem of majority of pakistan. and yes the majority of paksitan (the working class) don’t think about him as an alternative ..
and yes he is the popular leader of the frustrated middle class youth as we can see in these comments… and they are of 15-20 persent
thanx
awais qani.
isb pakistan,
[email protected]
Awais Qarni…….
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