After abusing Hazrat Ali a.s and Hazrat Fatima s.a., Beena Sarwar lobby abuses Imam Mahdi
After Beena Sarwar’s assistant #Ilmana_fasih abused Imam Ali and Hazrat Fatima, her frontman in Karachi abuses Imam Mahdi.
It seems that abusing holy personalities of Shia and Sunni Sufi Muslims is a norm now, not only for Takfiri Deobandi bigots but also by their commercial or fake liberal comrades.
After Aman Ki Asha’s Beena Sarwar’s Assistant Ilmana Fasih Deobandi recently abused Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Fatima, Beena’s wannabe frontman in Karachi Anwar Durrani aka Ali Arqam abuses Imam Mahdi comparing him with Takfri Deobandi terrorist Mullah Omer of Taliban, alleging that Imam Mahdi too fled from the battlefield. Ali Arqam also happens to be a team member of Ale Natiq’s facebook page Roshni.
It seems that Shia Muslims, a genocide facing community in Pakistan, should now get used to frequent abuses to their revered personalities by Deobandi bigots sponsored by the Beena Sarwar lobby. Ali Araqam showed his sectarian colours by wrongly impicating Imam Mahdi in his bigoted analogy. He was rightly reprimanded by a Shia activist who reminded him that Imam Mahdi’s ghaybat (occultation) is comparable to Jesus (Hazrat Issa)’s elevation to Heaven as per a Divine plan.
We believe that by abusing revered personalities such as Imam Ali and Imam Mahdi, fake liberal comrades of Tahir Ashrafi and Ludyanvi want to provoke Shia Muslims to respond in sectarian terms thus creating false Sunni-Shia sectarian binary that ASWJ and fake liberal want to enable.
When media personalities and so called ‘rights activists’ like Ali Arqm and Ilmana Fasih abuse holy personalities of persecuted communities, they want to make this free for all. It seems to be the goal of Deobandi bigots and thier elitist or Ashrafi brand liberals to make the abuse of Shia and Sufi Sunni holy personalities and Shia and Sufi Genocide acceptable. This is consistent with the ShiaPhobic trends in the Commercial Liberal Mafia of Pakistan led by Beena Sarwar and co.
We peacefully protest and consider such abuses and attacks as a part of a larger genocide, facing Shia and Sunni Sufi Muslims at the hands of Takfiri Deobandi terrorists and their commerical liberal enablers.
بینا سرور لابی کی جانب سے آئمہ اطہار پر گالم گلوچ و سب و شتم کا سلسلہ جاری۔ المانہ فصیح کے بعد بینا سرور کے دوسرے فرنٹ مین اکرم درانی عرف علی ارقم امام مہدی علیہ السلام کی شان میں گالم گلوچ و الزام تراشی پر اتر آئے اور امام مہدی کی غیبت کبری کو نعوذ باﷲ من ذالک افغان طالبان کے لیڈر ملا عمر کے میدان جنگ سے فرار اور بھاگنے سے متماثل قرار دینے لگے۔ امام مہدی کے لیئے بعینہ یہی الفاظکالعدم تکفیری دیوبندی دہشتگرد گروہ کا سرغنہ اعظم طارق استعمال کرتا رہا۔
انور درانی عرف علی ارقم م لگتا ہے ابھی تک اپنی تکفیری دیوبندی فکر سے پیچھا نہیں چھڑا سکے اور نہ ہی اتنے عرصے میں اسلامی تاریخ کی مبادیات کا علم حاصل کر سکے ورنہ ان کو معلوم ہوتا ہے میدان جنگ سے فرار اور بھاگنا اور بات ہے اور حکم خدا سے لوگوں کی نظروں سے اوجھل ہونا اور۔ رسول مکرم صلی ﷲ علیہ و آلہ وسلم بھی حکم خدا سے غار میں چھپ گئے تھے، اس سے پہلے حضرت عیسی بھی بحکم خدا آسمان پر اٹھا لیئے گئے۔
یہ دونوں مواقع اس وقت کے ہیں جب دشمنان خدا ان دونوں مقدس رسولوں کو قتل کرنے کے درپے تھے اور خدا نے ان کو لوگوں کی نظروں سے اوجھل کر کے اپنی مشیئت اور ارادے کے مطابق ان کی حفاطت کا بندوبست کیا ورنہ خود یہ نمائندے الہی ﷲ کی راہ میں جان قربان کرنے سے بالکل بھی دریغ نہیں کرتے۔ بالکل ایسے ہی ﷲ نے اپنی آخری حجت کی حفاطت کا انتظام کیا اور ان کو لوگوں کی نظروں سے اوجھل کر دیا جیسے حضرت عیسی کو قیامت کے قریب تک اوجھل کیا ہوا ہے، جیسے اصحاب کہف اور حضرت خضر کو لوگوں کی نظروں سے پوشیدہ رکھا ہوا ہے۔
باقی میدان جنگ سے فرار اور ملا عمر کی طرح میدان جہاد سے بھاگنے کی مکمل تاریخ پڑھنے کے لیئے علی ارقم صاحب غزوہ احد، غزوہ خیبر اور غزوہ حنین کی طرف مراجعت کر لیتے تو ملا عمر سے اسم کے علاوہ دیگر کئی حولوں سے مماثلت رکھنے والے ناموں کا انکشاف ہو جاتا۔ ہم اتحاد اسلامی کو برقرار رکھنے کے لیئے ان کرداروں اور ناموں کے سامنے لانے سے گریز کرتے ہیں۔
یہاں ہم علی ناطق سے بھی مطالبہ کرتے ہیں کہ اپنے اس دوست اور اسسٹنٹ اکرم درانی عرف علی ارقم کے ان نازیبا کلمات کی کھل کر مذمت کریں نہیں تو ہم کو بتا دیں کہ ان کا گروپ روشنی اب کالعدم تکفیری دیوبندی دہشتگرد گروہ کے غنڈوں کو امن کا داعی بنا کر پیش کرنے لگا ہے اور ان تکفیری عناصر کی، جنھوں نے لبرل ازم کا چوغہ پہن رکھا ہے، پشت پناہی کر رہا ہے۔
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Ali Abbas Taj
22 hrs
#ShiaGenocide going full steam ahead in Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Kuwait. At the same time, we have such disgusting Commercial “liberals” who do not even spare our Imam’s. Refer to the following tweet by Ali Arqam who is Ale Natiq’s colleague at Roshni. These sick minds are enabling genocide and must be protested against peacefully. If the misogynist and racist slander against Imam Ali and Bibi Fatima was not enough, now this by the same lobby. Clearly a concerted effort to degrade the icons of a faith community facing Genocide.
Ale Natiq can you condemn Ali Arqam for this vile comparison between Imam Mahdi (as) and Deobandi Taliban terrorist Mullah Omer
Abbas Ali
I think you didn’t see pages abusing him..its a norm amongst certain wahabi frame of minds to abuse the 12th Imam..the words he used in this tweet were v ethical as compared to the actual thoughts..
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Ali Abbas Taj
Abbas Ali but this person Ali Arqam and his gang portray themselves as “anti establishment” “liberal” champions: But I agree with you, they are no different from Takfiri Wahabi, Deobandi and Nasibi types. Apparently for some it is more important to protect the “sanctity” of these Fake liberal Nasibi types as opposed to taking a clear stance when the icons of faith of a community facing genocide are being abused.
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Abbas Ali
They all will meet their fate soon..but these false liberals should be exposed…they seem to be in deep pain when their amirul mumineen is questioned.
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Sibtain Naqvi
What’s liberal about trivializing core religious values and beliefs? Even if you don’t believe it you don’t have the right to jest about it.
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Abbas Ali
Agreed Sibtain
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Kamran Niaz
How conveniently these closet takfiris can use derogatory language to disrespect others’ beliefs with the convenience of claiming to be liberals
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Ali Abbas Taj
Kamran Niaz bhai, now do you understand why some of us have such reservations with Commercial “liberal’ “activism”. When such bigotry and insidious sectarian comments and their owners are working in cahoots with other “Selfie” activists. Most of our contributors are not concerned with personal fame and glory. They are simply passionate about the principles at hand.
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Ali Haider
By tweeting such nonsense, people like Ali Arqam expose their innate mindset which negates anything which they stand for or advocate.
He cannot call himself a liberal when he openly uses derogatory remarks towards spiritual leaders of the second biggest muslim sect. Bigotry comes out in the open, one way or the other.
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Adnan S. Khan
Mr Ali Arqam and Asad Munir failed to mention the racing sahabas at uhud
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Sabah Hasan
as well as Mr. Bin Ass who performed the Full Monty while running away from Siffin, to ensure Ali a.s. shall not follow him due to his despicable lack of attire.
Syed Farrukh Abbas
once a bigot always a bigot..shame on these so called Libtards..
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Sufi Zaidi
Shame on him.
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Ali Abbas Taj
Sufi Zaidi can you kindly request Ale to condemn his Roshni colleague Ali Arqam. The forgery tactics of snitches and bigots can only hurt one by association. Like before, we have always stressed that such vile, racist and abusive slander must be treated with peaceful and principled protest and condemnation Khurram Zaki
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Haider Syed
ایک منظر” شیعہ صحابہ کو برا کہتے ہیں اس لیے قتل ہوتے ہیں”۔۔۔۔ فقہِ جعفری کے بارہویں امام امامِ مھدی آخر الزمان(ع) جنہیں سنی و دیگر مسالک کے پیرو کار انسانیت کے لیے ایک امید کی کرن سمجھتے ہیں کے لیے ایسے الفاظ استعمال کیے جائیں تو کسی کو کچھ بولنا نہیں چاہیے ۔۔۔۔ عجیب منطق ہے دنیا والو کی !! سپاہ صحابہ کے تکفیری اور ایک ظاہراً لبرل شخص کی باتوں میں ذرہ برابر بھی فرق نہیں۔ پھر ہم کہتے ہیں کہ ہم تو ہر مذہب و مسلک کی مذہبی آزادی کا یقین رکھتے ہیں
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محض آس اور قیاس
We must need to come out of the political FATAWAS of “Rahber” to say spade a spade.
دشمنانِ اہلیبیت پہ الہی لعن، اور جو دشمنانِ اہلیبیت سے ناطے قائم کرے، گلے لگائے، کانفرنسز میں بلائے ان پہ بھی الٰہی لعن، لگاتار لعن، بے شمار لعن
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Wasif Akbar Rizvi
This guy’s hatred of Shias and ahlé bait (as) is only second to his mediocrity. This comment is indicative of his crassness, tastelessness and sheer ignorance combined with toxic bigotry.
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Ali Abbas Taj
Wasif Akbar Rizvi in the post modern world of “selfie activism” where one’s persona is more important than the cause, bigots like Ali Arqam are even promoted as “human rights champions”. They have their defenders in the Beena Sarwars etc. These people never work for any cause but for self promotion. Many of those who support us and put their lives in danger or otherwise use pen names are least concerned about their personal promotion. For them and us, we would be so lucky to even be the dust from the feet of Qambar.
On a more substantial level, it is people like Ali Arqam and co who continue to obfuscate the preponderance of Deobandi terrorists. They are the ones who create false binaries and deflections. And now this hate filled bigotry.
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Ali Abbas Taj
Mirza Ali Our last conversation was deleted when someone censured the post and had it removed. You seemed reasonable. Can you request Ale to condemn this rubbish by his Roshni colleague Ali Arqam
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Johnny Muaviya
Mirza Ali Ali Abbas Taj We will accept Ali Arqam Deobandi as a liberal if he also mentions all other incidents of some people running away from battlefields, just for the purpose of record.
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Mirza Ali
While I do believe in freedom of speech, I also agree that exercising this right selectively against a minority/persecuted community’s symbols or core beliefs is detestable. I do condemn it and I will communicate this to Ali Arqam in my capacity as his facebook friend. I do not however have any influence on him, the same way I don’t have any influence on you guys or on Ale Natiq.
As far as Ale is concerned, I can not make anyone condemn or confront something exactly the way I or someone else wants. I can not speak on his behalf but there is a possibility he wouldn’t do such a thing to ‘prove’ his loyalty to a cause or a principle simply because it’s LUBP demanding it and frankly a lot of people do not like the idea of ‘demands’. It leads to reactionary behavior and thats one of the reasons why causes get compromised. Also isn’t it possible that he thinks there would be better and more effective ways of communicating feedback or influencing someone than going no holds barred in public? Specially if it’s someone you know, work with and trust.
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Mirza Ali
Ali Abbas Taj
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Mirza Ali
Furthermore in Ali Arqam’s case, not withstanding the current case of his selective humor at the expense of a persecuted community’s belief, which was in bad taste to say the least, and on which i’m sure he would be apologetic if approached, I as a reader will not ignore or forget some of the good things he has done in pushing forward a good narrative when it comes to shia persecution at the hand of deobandi militant organizations, the role of madressahs, and the role of the Pakistan army and security agencies.
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Mirza Ali
In a similar way I have for long supported Lubp, for the good things it had initiated, and achieved, despite a lot of negatives.
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Syed Kashif Rizvi
I for one whilst agreeing with everything said about ali arqam do not get what this ‘individuals oriented’ posts will achieve? .. will these people become better people? will they show remorse, apologise? so what even if they do or dont .. it surely takes away the great work Ali Abbas Taj et al have done over so many years. IMO its better to raise bigger issues than these rather petty ones
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Ali Abbas Taj
Mohtaram Syed Kashif Rizvi When we were publishing posts slamming Generals Kiyani, Pasha, Zia, Zia ul Haq, Hamid Gul etc; those were also specific to the individuals as well as when we published highly critical post on FC Baluchistan for supporting ASWJ-BLA alliance and on Sindh Rangers for selective operation against MQM but no operation against ASWJ Ludhyanvi. We have been critical of individuals, groups and organisations who promote terrorists including GEO/JANG, Supreme Court. We have not spared PML N, PPP, ANP or PTI either for hob nobbing with ASWJ-Taliban terrorists either.
For us, the systematic slander of Imam Ali (as) , Bibi Fatima, Hazrat Abu Talib and now Imam Mahdi (as) when their adherents are facing a systematic genocide is not a petty issue. We will not only be critical of the foot soldiers of this commercial fake liberal mafia like Ali Arqam but will also be blunt about all those Fake liberal luminaries like the Beena-Sethi-Ashrafi mafia who use these pawns.
Unfortunately, we don’t expect remorse from these compromised souls. But we do want to make them aware that their sectarian invective and degrading of our faith icons during a time of genocide will NOT go answered. We are not in this to win a popularity contest. Before I was LUBP editor, other LUBP contributors were abused, misrepresented, threatened and forced to leave by the backstabbers planted within. Our current team and supporters are also subject to abuse, threats and grotesque lies by this same lobby backing Ali Arqam.
We don’t care. But when they go after the very beings whose adherents are facing genocide, then some of us are not going to go out “gently into that dark night” Or to the latest restaurant and pose for selfies.
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Syed Kashif Rizvi
I agree Ali Abbas Taj, but all the people you rightly mention represent influential stakeholder institutions, ie Army / ISI / Media / Political Parties / Judiciary. All of those are party to Our genocide one way or the other and its a great effort to t…See More
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Syed Riaz Al-Malik Hajjaji
I agree with Syed Kashif Rizvi we should not be critical of these liberal infallibles. We should let them carry on and grow healthy and wealthy. So one day, Ilmana Fasih can be the champion of Hazara rights and say “I am Hazara” while completely removi…See More
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Mehdi Muj
@syed kashif rizvi this is a big issue and has to be confronted and protested peacfully by all means. We don’t realize its danger now but eventually we will because it will open the gate for any person with any agenda religious or not to be able to taunt religious icons and since it has become something normal under the cover of so-called freedom of speech then it’s confrontation will be impossible. Let’s understand and situation and act accordingly.
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Johnny Muaviya
Syed Kashif Rizvi What if it is turned into a campaign, and dozens of fake liberals who are actually Deobandis and their apologists start doing it, and it trends? It is not an individual oriented post. it is referring to a particular type of people who not only abuse holy personalities, but also obfuscate our deaths and our killers.
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Ali Abbas Taj
Johnny Muaviya it already has. First it was Takfiri Tarek when he issued Kuffar fatwa against Hazrat Abu Talib. Then it was Ilmana Fasih whose disgusting racist and misogynist rubbish against Imam Ali and Fatima. Now it is Imam Mahdi. Same group. Same lobby. Some bunch of posers who portray themselves as “secular” “liberal” “progressives” but are a disgrace to those very ideologies. Same group who flatter each other on social media and same group who are more refined face of frothing Jhangvis. Same group whose collection of Uncle Tom Shias has just increased by 2 more.
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Syed Kashif Rizvi
I agree Johnny Muaviya but you know time will expose them anyway. I used to read what Ali Abbas Taj & LUBP wrote with great interest and share it on numerous forums but lately it seems reactionary, provocative and almost ineffective. please take it in a non confrontational way and carry on doing what you do if it doesn’t make sense to you. But that’s my opinion
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Ali Abbas Taj
We are exposing ideas and movements. Such as the careerist liberal and takfiri alliance. If Sherry Rehman and Najam Sethi and others promote ASWJ thugs like Tahir Ashrafi and Ahmad Ludhyanvi as “Progressives” and “men of peace” we will not be silent. When Shahhaz Sharif and Chaudhary Nisar meet with former COAS General Kiyani, then we will not conveniently forget their role. Or portray Saudi stooge PM Nawaz Sharif as “anti establishment” as these careerist “liberals” do. That makes sense to us. If these promotors of ASWJ and professional obfuscators think that it is ok to mainstream the cursing of Imam Ali, Bibi Fatima, Hazrat Abu Talib and Imam Mahdi (as) when their adherents are facing genocide. then some of us will not back down. If that is “reactionary” then so be it. Thanks and regards
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Ali Abbas Taj
To repeat, it was never about being “non confrontational” for us. Nor are we concerned too much if our popularity goes down for taking, what we feel, to be the correct stance. cheers
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Kaneez E Fatima
The fifth column. What is amazing is how these privileged elitist secular liberals present themselves as champions of the downtrodden and criticise other elitists for living in a privileged bubble. Pot calling the kettle black!?
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