Senator’s Abidi’s bold stance against Takfiri terrorism spoiled by anti-Ahmadi comment
Related Post: The Polemics of Apostasy in Pakistan
Appearing on Waseem Badami’s 11th Hour (September 4th, 2012), Faisal Raza Abidi harmed his own cause with his Takfir against Ahmadi muslims. In an otherwise excellent show, Senator Abidi hurt his credibility of combating religious extremism by indulging in a similar tactic.
During the cause of the show, Senator Abidi made excellent observations about the selective Judicial Activism of the current PCO Judiciary. He apologized for the tone of his criticism but maintained that his well – researched content criticism of the wrong doings of this PCO Judiciary still stand and deserve an appropriate response.
No one can fault the Senator there.
Similarly, in highlighting the case of tens of thousands of Shia Muslims being massacred by State-sponsored Jihadis, Faisal Raza highlighted the pressing case of the ongoing Shia Genocide in Pakistan. We must commend him for highlighting the fact that those who are killing shias are also killing Sunnis. It was encouraging to note that he was one of the few politicians to show solidarity with the scores of Pashtun tribal elders and nationalist militias who have sacrificed their lives in taking a stand against the totalitarian theocratic Emirate imposed on them in FATA and Waziristan.
That is why his comment against Ahmadiyya Muslims (refer to 18:00 onwards in the video clip) is both disappointing and utterly condemnable. The Constitutional Apostasization by the PPP-NAP government under Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto is a stain on Pakistan’s history that must be overturned. It is a sad example of how the State continued to capitulate to the military establishment backed Jamaat-e-Islami fascist mobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKE1BJlcl_w&feature=player_embedded
Senator Abidi should have stopped when he said that it is not the job of anyone to declare someone else a non-muslim. His subsequent remark(s), as they related to Ahmadi Muslims, are to put it mildly, utter trash and harmful.
He said: “Zlufikar Ai Bhutto ka karnama hai ke Qadianion ko Kafir declare kia iss liye ke Khatm-e-Nabuwat tha.” (It is an achievement of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto that he declared Qadianis (Ahmadis) as infidel because of the issue of the finality of the Prophet (Muhammad).
However, in the next line he said he is a servant of everyone who believes in Allah and the Prophet (pbuh). Instead of using a derogatory word (Qadiani), Senator Abidi should have used Ahmadis, and instead of supporting a discriminatory law passed by ZAB and all other parties in Pakistan Parliament in 1974, Senator Abidi should have criticized the Takfiri law.
Doesn’t the senator realize that Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat/Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the Taliban do not stop at killing Sunni and Shias in Pakistan. Ahmadis, Christains, Sikhs and Hindus are equal targets.
Does he need to be reminded about who killed 100+ Ahmadi Muslims during Friday prayers in Lahore in 2010. Were these killers not the same people who also frequently target Shia Muslims in Pakistan?
With his bold attacks on the Taliban and their apologists, Senator Abidi has begun to acquire an iconic status. His condemnable slander and Takfir against Ahmadis has hurt his credibility in this regard and is unacceptable. More than his apology for his tone, Senator Faisal Raza Abidi must apologize for and retract his anti-Ahmadi comments.
We have in the past criticized the two or three (token) Shia clerics who lent support to the anti-Ahmaidyya movement in 1950s. We will continue to criticize those voices, whether Shia, Sunni or whoever, who justify or support Ahmadi persecution in Pakistan.
We agree with our Ahmadi friends’ complaint and have criticized a PPP leader & a Shia for his insensitive remarks against Ahmadis. This shows we must not be selective or remain in denial on issues of human rights. Sect or ethnicity must not blind us from truth. We hope the message is also received by those who remain blinded by their sect or ethnicity and remain selective in their causes.
We will continue to criticize those voices, whether Shia, Sunni or whoever, who justify or support Ahmadi persecution in Pakistan.
and what about Shia of LUBP’s justification ??
Ahmadi are Muslim or not ?? are you getting me what am i asking ??
there are proofs in which every one can see the ” gustakhana ” words about HAZRAT ALI R.A , HAZRAT IMAM E HUSSAIN R.A , HAZRAT IMAM E MAHDI R.A in the books of Ahmadiyya Cult . . .
so don’t use word muslim with this cult at all . without using this word muslim you can criticize so called persecution of ahmadiyya community !
“Senator Abidi should have stopped when he said that it is not the job of anyone to declare someone else a non-muslim. His subsequent remark(s), as they related to Ahmadi Muslims, are to put it mildly, utter trash and harmful”
How true analysis are. It has alwys pinched me, whenever Ahamdiyya is mentioned even very sensible and rational people slip from the track. But salute to LUBP for hinting to Mr Abidi for his mistake. Hope he learns from it.
OH My God! LUBP just had some taste of their own medicine. Senator Abidi is their Blue hide boy and now they thought his anti-qadiyani remarks will backfire so they criticized him. We all know the reality of LUBP its a merely a propaganda forum and full of contradictions, this is a latest example of such contradictions.
The only good things which civilian dictator ZAB did was to unanimously pass the bill declaring Qadiyanis non-Muslim, something which should have been done much earlier.
We all are against the killing of Qadiyanis and Shias etc. But Qadiyanis are non-Muslims and should not be falsely considered as Muslims
Hassan Nisar sahib has questioned in a program, what have we done ‘IJTAMAI’ for which we are being punished? I would like to bring your attention to the fact that only act which comes under this banner is ” declaring ahmadis non muslim by he govt and assembly. We are under the wrath of GOD ALMIGHTY for 40 years. Calling a ‘KALIMA GO” as KAFIR
is the biggest criminal act in Islam. Please wake up and pay attention
Respect for you LUBP is increasing in my eyes!
I like our Hero Faisal Raza to ask an apology for his comments against Ahmedya Muslim Community ! The way we Pakistani react so furiously against Ahmedies shows that in our hearts we know that they are pure Muslims !They do everything what a good muslim should do.Their belief in Prophet SAW is none of our business, its between them & Allah!
All over the world they are consider as Muslims & our country is termed as fool’s paradise where governments & people think they have done some kind of
” karnama” by declaring arbitrarily a group of muslims as kafirs( non muslims)! disgusting !
@ MUHAMMAD OMAR i have lots of childhood ahmedi friends none of them say a single word against our beloved Imam Elah Salam ! They respect Ashura days more than Sunnies ! If you are happy to follow blindly “mullah ” whose deen is ” fi sabililah fasad” ( according to Pakistani National Poet )..do follow him & reach the pit of inhumanity !
This is the common thread among almost all Shia leaders. They complain about their persecution and then come around and do the same to Ahmadis. If majority of Shias don’t agree with this then where is their condemnation of Faisal Raza Abdi? LUBP is an exception in the crowd.
More hate speech by Aamir Liaqat in Express. Its editor Abbas Athar is also a pippliya.
http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1101385254&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20111125
Abadi did same thing against whom he raising voice.
Faisal Abidi you lost all my respect !
As the ZAB betraied the Ahmadies as they favered him in 1970 election, Zia did the same to ZAB
and President Lgahri who was ppp member did same to Benazir and now chief justice Ifteghar did the same to Gilani as he reinstated him. Peoples party will alway get the same kind of punishment until they review back the amendment against Ahmadies.
Thanks for LUBP as they brought the matter up.
@Ahmad you missed what Pervaiz Musharraf did with Nawaz Sharif & what Zerdari did to Musharraf …
Dont use these example bro ! coz these are just CONFORMING what Hazrat Ali( K W ) said ” jiss peh Ahsaan kero usskay SHAR say Deroo”
zulfiqar ai bhutto is responsible for all the brutal killings of qadiyanis so far and there it came to shia`s too. there would be a karnama of someone`s soon to declare them kafir too…..He should be ashamed of his comment. He should be hanged for talking in such a way about any community living in Pakistan.
For being a muslim it is necessary to believe in THE COMPLETION OF PROPHETHOOD.. anyone whose beliefs contradict with it, is a NON-MUSLIM.. and the law states the same!
and it was indeed a KARNAMA by Z.A.Bhutto which was unanimously passed by the assembly…
And by the way the law merely declares them non-believer.. it does NOT issues the ‘fatwa’ of their killings…
so there’s nothing wrong in what Abidi said..
Sometimes I wonder what should I do? Cry,laugh or bang my head against the wall for the ” JAHALAT” my countryman
and so called ulema show. There is no body on the face of earth who has shown more respect or paid tirbute to our
beloved HOLY PROPHET (pbuh) than Mirza Sahib. Please read his QASIDA. Even an arab with full command of arabic would not be able to produce a “SHAHKAR” like this. UQAL KE NAKHUN LO AUR MUNAFAQAT CHHOR DO. Survival of Pakistan iis linked to Ahmadiyyat which is true Islam. They have not produced any terrorist. ” WAFAT-E-MASIH (HAZART ISA (PBUH) MAIN HAYAT-E-ISLAM HAI” Pakistan cannont progress unless law is pepealed. Let justice prevail.May GOD ALMIGHTY guide you. AMEN