Punjabi Taliban / Sipah-e-Sahaba attack two Ahmadi Mosques in Lahore: At least 70 killed, scores injured.
First of all I condemn the attack on two Ahemdi mosques in Lahore. What is more condemnable is the media reporting of the incident. The term “dehshatgard ” which is usually used for terrorists is changed with term “hamla-awar” (invaders). Masjid /Mosque is changed with the term Ibadatgah (place of worship) . Ahmedi is changed with Qadyani. Namazi is changed with Ibadatgar .
Let’s hope this ugly incident doesn’t end up like Gojra tragedy where Taliban mentors sitting in the Lahore High Court and Punjab Government were clearly found saving the culprits.
Is it a mere coincidence that this tragic incident in which at least 70 innocent Pakistanis have lost their lives happened only a few days after a hate and violence inciting phone conversation between Geo TV’s anchor Hamid Mir and a Sipah-e-Sahaba terrorist Usman Punjabi?
Once again, is it a mere coincidence that an anchor of the same TV channel (Geo TV), host of a religious program, Aamir Liaquat Hussain is previously (September 2009) involved in inciting violence against the Ahmadi sect which resulted in assassination of at least three Ahmadis in various parts of Pakistan?
It is high time that PEMRA must take action against Geo TV; law enforcing agencies in Pakistan must arrest the following and try them for inciting hatred and violence against religious minorities in Pakistan:
1. Mir Shakil-ur-Rehman, CEO of Geo TV
2. Hamid Mir, host of Capital Talk (Geo TV)
3. Aamir Liaquat Hussain, host of Aalim Online (Geo TV)
All international human rights organisations are appealed to exert their influence on the Government of Pakistan in order to put the culprits subject to a fair process of law.
Hamid Mir and his associates in Sipah-e-Sahaba and Punjabi Taliban as well as Hamid Mir’s employer must be brought to a court of law for inciting violence against fellow Pakistanis, innocent Ahmedi community.
Syed Adeeb (based in the USA), an associate of Hamid Mir and the Taliban, must also be arrested for spreading hate speech.
Here is exactly what Hamid Mir said (in Urdu followed by English translation) about Ahmedis (Qadianis) in his conversation with Usman Punjabi (a terrorist of Sipah-e-Sahaba aka Punjabi Taliban):
HM: 01:08: “Kyunke ye to mujhe zaati tor pe is baat ka pata hay ke Khalid Khwaja jo hay woh, uh, uska na sirf ye ke Amreeki CIA se raabta hay balke Qadyanion ka ek bohat bara bayn ul aqwaami network jo hay, us mein ek admi hay Mansoor Ejaz, jo ke Amreeki hay. To ye uska front may aur ek dafa Mansoor Ejaz ko le ke Khalid Khawaja mere paas aya tha, aur usne Mansoor Ejaz ko kaha, k, um, Mansoor Ejaz ko le ke mere paas aya, uske paas ek briefcase tha. Aur Khalid Khawaja saab ne mujhe kaha G ke ‘Ye Mansoor Ejaz saab hain aur ye Amreeki
hukumat ke bohat bare numaende hain, to in ki aap mulaqat Syed Salahuddin saab se karwadein jo Hizbul Mujahideen k sarbaraah hain, aur ye unke saath milkar Masla e Kashmir hal karwadenge. To meine inse poocha G ke ye.. in ke paas kaun sa aisi gidar-singi hay ya aisa kaun sa jaadu ka chiragh hay jo Masla e Kashmir hal karwadenge? Toh, unhon ne kaha G ke inka, jo hai na, woh Indian Government se bhi raabta hay aur inka Vajpayee se bhi raabta hay, toh, mein bara hayran hua. Meine phir mulaqat to nai karwai”
(Because I know this personally that Khalid Khawaja, not only is he in contact with the American CIA but furthermore there is an American citizen by the name of Mansoor Ejaz, who belongs to an international Qadyani network. So he (Khalid Khawaja) is his (Mansoor Ejaz’s) frontman and once Khalid Khawaja came to me alongwith Mansoor Ejaz. He had a briefcase with him. And Khalid Khawaja told me ‘This is Mr. Mansoor Ejaz and he is a noted representative of the American Government, so you please ar range for his meeting with Syed Salahuddin who is the head of the Hizbul Mujahideen (Kashmir), and he will cooperate with him in resolving the Kashmi r dispute’. So I (Hamid Mir) asked him (Khalid Khawaja) that, what sort of magic wand or magic lamp does he (Mansoor Ejaz) have with which he’ll resolve the Kashmir dispute? So, he said that he is also in contact with the Indian Government and also Vajpayee (ex Indian PM), so, I was quite surprised. I did not ar range for their meeting though)
HM: 02:45: “Toh mein ye samajhta hun ke Khalid Khawaja ka na sirf CIA se raabta hay balke Qadyanion ka bhi agent hay, aur mujhe bara afsos hay ke ye qabaeli ilaaqon mein jata hay aur, idhar udhar logon se milta hay”
(So I think that Khalid Khawaja is not only in contact with the CIA but is also a Qadyani agent, and I am very sad to see that he goes to t ribal areas and meets people there)
HM: “Woh jo marzi karein aap un containeron ke saath, lootein Amreeka ka saamaan, usko aap lootein, jalayen, usse mujhe koi sarokaar nahin, lekin is ko, isko ye to poochein ke tumhara Mansoor Ejaz se aur William Casey se kya talluq? William Casey CIA ka sarbaraah tha, aur ye jo hay ye khud mere saamne aitraaf kar chuka hay ke is ka William Casey ke saath talluq raha hay. Isse kahein ke chalo William Casey ko bhi chhoro, jo Qadyani hote hain, mein to Qadyanion ko kaafron se bhi baddtar samajhta hoon, iska Qadyanion se kya talluq hay? Mansoor Ejaz se is ka kya talluq hay, ye usse paise kyun khata hay, ye uske saath, woh Pakistan jab ata hay, to ye usko leke har jagah pe kyun phir ta hay? Ye mujahideen ke paas leke usko kyun jaata hay..”
(Let them do whatever they want with the containers, whether they loot American containers, you loot them, burn them, I have nothing to do with that. But ask him (Khalid Khawaja), ask him what his relation is with Mansoor Ejaz and William Casey? William Casey was the head of the CIA, and this guy (Khalid Khawaja), he himself confessed in front of me that he has had relations with William Casey. Ask him fine, even if we keep William Casey aside, these Qadyani people, I consider Qadyanis to be worst than infidels, what are his relations with the Qadyanis? What is his relation with Mansoor Ejaz, why does he take finances from him, when he (Mansoor Ejaz) comes to Pakistan, why does he take him around? Why does he take him to the mujahideen?)
http://criticalppp.com/archives/10918
As if Sunni Shia Clash rather Massacre of Shia Cleansing was not enough. Thanks to GEO TV/JANG GROUP’S ISLAMIC SCHOLAR AT LARGE”AAMIR LIAQUAT HUSSAIN” A NEW ANARCHY IS READY. Question is? Which Sect is next. Deobandi, Barelvi or Wahabi – This program of GEO TV Aalim Online is basically a Curse on Pakistani Society and should be stopped forthwith. – Hamid Mir says that Tapes are Forged and lets assume that Tapes were Froged but Aamir Liaquat Hussain had openly “Instigated” and “Incited” Murder and Slaughter of “Pakistani Ahmedi/Quadiyani Minority Community” from the “ROSTRUM/PULPIT” OF GEO TV I.E. JANG GROUP OF NEWSPAPERS [Authority to punish anybody for a Crime is the Responsibility of the State not GEO TV/JANG GROUP OR MIR SHAKIL UR REHMAN]
Dr. Aamir Liaquat Hussain of Aalim Online [a TV Program of Geo TV] has repeatedly incited several times, urging Lunatic Muslims [even in the Mullah State the authority to punish anybody rests with the State not with the individuals] to kill without fear. While on air the anchor person also pressured the other two Islamic scholars (from two different sects) on the program to support the statement. This resulted in a unanimous decision among the scholars, on air during a popular television show, to urge lynching with the intent to kill.
Now read
PAKISTAN: Two persons murdered after an anchor person proposed the widespread lynching of Ahmadi sect followers – ASIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION – URGENT APPEALS PROGRAMME – Urgent Appeal Case: AHRC-UAC-203-2008 10 September 2008 -http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2008/2999/
PAKISTAN: Two persons murdered after an anchor person proposed the widespread lynching of Ahmadi sect followers – ISSUES: Murder; religious discrimination; freedom of religion; media
Dear friends,
The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) has received information that an anchor person working for a prominent television channel has incited Muslims in Pakistan to kill – to devastating effect. The targets are followers of the Muslim Ahmadi sect, a group which has been declared non-Islamic under the constitution of Pakistan. The first killing happened within 24 hours of the broadcast, and just under two days later a district chief of the Ahmadi was murdered. Followers of the religion are understandably frightened, and many have left their homes and are taking shelter at their central mosque, the Rabwa.
CASE DETAILS:
In a program aired on 7 September 2008 the anchor of the religious program ‘Alam Online’, Dr. Amir Liaquat Hussain–also former federal minister for religious affairs–declared the murder of Ahmadi sect members to be necessary (Wajib ul Qatal) according to Islamic teachings, because its followers don’t believe in the last prophet, Mohammad, peace be upon him. Dr. Amir repeated his instruction several times, urging fundamentalists Muslims to kill without fear. While on air the anchor person also pressured the other two Islamic scholars (from two different sects) on the program to support the statement. This resulted in a unanimous decision among the scholars, on air during a popular television show, to urge lynching with the intent to kill. This was not a one-off. On September 9, Mr. Hussain answered a query with the comment that blasphemers are liable to be put to death.
According to the information received, at 1:15pm on September 8, 18 hours after the broadcast, six persons entered the Fazle Umer Clinic, a two-story hospital at Mirpur Khas city and two of them went to the second floor and started pressuring 45 year-old Dr. Abdul Manan Siddiqui to come downstairs to attend to a patient in crisis. Dr. Manan left his office and descended into an ambush. He was shot 11 times and died on the spot. His private guard was also shot and is in a serious condition. A woman was also injured by firing. The killers remained at the hospital until the doctor was declared dead, then they walked out of the building’s front entrance. Police registered the killers as unknown. On September 9, 48 hours after the broadcast, Mr. Yousaf, a 75 year-old rice trader and district chief of the Ahmadi sect was killed on his way to prayer in Nawab Shah, Sindh province. Yousaf was fired on from people on motor bikes, and sustained three bullet wounds. He died on the way to the hospital. The assailants had taken a route past a police station. No one was arrested.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
The Ahmadi sect was declared non-Islamic sect on September 7, 1974, through a constitutional amendment, and was labeled a minority sect. Since then, there has been open hatred of the sect by certain Islamic circles and fundamentalists across the Muslim world, and sect members suffer widespread discrimination. Ahmadi followers are not allowed to bury their dead in the ordinary grave yards of Muslims, and many of those buried before 1974 were shifted by fundamentalists. Since 1984 (when statistics have been compiled) around 93 Ahmadis have been killed for their allegiance to their sect, with four killed so far this year, including Dr. Ghulam Sarwar on March 19 in Faisalabad, Punjab province and Mr. Basharat Mughal on February 24 in Karachi. The Dr. Siddiqui is the 15th medical doctor killed since 1984.
SUGGESTED ACTION:
Please write to following authorities and urge them to appropriate actions in order to stop the killings of Ahmadi followers and recognized religious freedom. Please also demand them to prevent any religious hatred or discrimination from broadcasting through the media. Please be informed that the AHRC has also written separate letter to the UN Special Rapporteur on freedom of religion or belief.
Aamir Liaquat Hussain often try his level best to Promote Sectarian Hatred and Clash by USING GEO TV ROSTRUM/PULPIT: GEO TV, Beard & Aamir Liaquat Hussain’s Tabbarrah. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/04/geo-tv-beard-aamir-liaquat-hussains.html
you’re right, it’s disgusting.
Here is another evidence of Hamid Mir’s hate speech against Ahmedis (Qadianis) in his article in daily Jang dated 7 September 2009.
Hamid Mir and his employer Mir Shakil must be arrested for inciting violence and spreading hate speech:
http://criticalppp.com/archives/1421
@Aamir Mughal hamid mir has changed his previous stance and now says his different conversations are coupled together. Maybe because someone told him it can be easily verified whether its his original voice or doctored one !. but even if he is speaking the truth the reality is he never contradicted or challenged the views on his allege tap about ahmedi’s community. .”ahmedi are worst then kafir “.
‘Hostages Seized’ After Lahore Mosque Blasts
Huw Borland, Sky News Online
Gunmen armed with grenades have launched deadly attacks at two mosques in the Pakistani city of Lahore and reportedly taken hundreds of hostages.
The Pakistan rescue service 1122 said 29 people have been killed and at least 50 injured, but the number of casualties was expected to rise.
Gunmen opened fire shortly after Friday prayers at two Ahmadi mosques in two residential neighbourhoods in Pakistan’s cultural capital.
They then threw what were believed to be grenades.
Friday is a day of worship for Muslims and most mosques in Pakistan at that time would be packed.
Sky’s Asia correspondent Alex Crawford
Pakistani TV reports said there were 1,500 to 2,000 people at one of the mosques and they have been taken hostage.
Police and gunmen were reportedly battling outside both religious sites, one in the upscale neighbourhood of Model Town and the second in the heavily congested area of Garhi Shahu.
Sky’s Asia correspondent Alex Crawford, quoting officers and eyewitnesses, said: “These attacks appeared to be co-ordinated – they were mounted at pretty much the same time.
“Friday is a day of worship for Muslims and most mosques in Pakistan at that time would be packed.
“The people in both those mosques now appear to be taken hostage or, at least, unable to leave.
“There are continual explosions and continual firing at both locations.”
Geo TV said Tehreik e Taliban, the Pakistan wing of the Taliban militant group, have said they are carrying out the attacks.
The mosques were several miles apart from each other, police officer Haider Ashraf said.
The Ahmadis have often been targeted by radical Sunni groups in the past.
The minority sect call themselves Muslims but believe their founder declared himself a prophet centuries after Muhammad, who other Muslims believe was the final prophet.
Ahmadis have long been subject to informal and state-sanctioned discrimination in Pakistan.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/
Firing, blasts in Lahore kill 27
Upadated on: 28 May 10 03:42 PM
By Shahid Hussain, Naeem Ashraf and Aimen Mufti
LAHORE: Firing and bomb blasts are reported in the Ahmedi places of worship in Model Town and Garhi Shahu, Lahore Friday.
According to initial reports, five to six small blasts were carried out.
The incident has left 27 persons dead and 30 others injured.
One suspected attacker has been arrested.
Heavy police contingents reached the site of crime immediately and have cordoned off the area.
Firing still continues in the area. A lot of people are still trapped in side the place of worship.
Most of the injured persons have been taken to the Jinnah hospital. Two police officials were among the injured and are taken to the Services Hospital.
High alert security has been announced in the city.
Police has blocked all roads leading to the crime site. SAMAA
http://www.samaa.tv/News20494-Firing_blasts_in_Lahore_kill_27.aspx
To hell with Sipah-e-Sahaba aka Pujabi Taliban and their supporters in Army and media !
Dear Hamza Sahab,
I am “confused” on the statements made by Ansar Abbasi [Twcie on TV Channels quoting Hamid Mir that Hamid talked to a Female PPP Leader, that Hamid Mir is a loose talker and what not] , Talat Hussain and Nasim Zehra said almost similar things about Mir’s Confusing/Conflicting and ever changing statements. What kind of Journalist Colleague they are????
Ansar Abbasi has almost indicted Hamid Mir in the case of Khalid Khawaja: Live with Talat – 20 May 2010 MAY 20, 2010 . in Live with Talat Naseem Zehra (Anchor), Zafar Abbas (Residen Editor Dawn), Kashif abbassi (Anchor) and Insar abbasi (Analyst) in Today’s episode of Live with Talat with Talat Hussain – http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/20/live-with-talat-20-may-2010/
Hamid Meer Commander of Tehreek e Talibaan Punjab..
Bol k Lab Talibaan hain teray..!
Now people must understand k Tape Asli thi ya naqli
Some disgusting anti-Ahmedi comments posted at pro N-League blog PkPolitics !!!
ali-pk
Member
Plz change the title, Mosques belongs to Muslims not murtads.
Posted 41 minutes ago on 28 May 2010 11:38 #
ali-pk
Member
my concern is more on the Muslims killed in today’s terrorist attack in north waziristan .
Posted 14 minutes ago on 28 May 2010 12:08 #
pkurducols
Member
Qadyanis are not minority, they are murtad. Their beliefs and mischievous character make them cancer of Muslim Uma. There are several examples that they were involved even in Anti-Pakistan activities along with RAW.
If they continue to threat Khatm-e-Nabuwat belief then their killing is justified as a murtad.
But no one other than Govt should be allowed to kill them as murtad. So their killings by Taliban can not be justified.
Posted 56 minutes ago on 28 May 2010 11:26 #
ali-pk
Member
Muslims die on daily basis in america’s terrorist attacks in Fata, afghanistan, iraq. i don’t see many voices, what’s so special abt murtads dieing today.
Posted 5 minutes ago on 28 May 2010 12:17 #
Source:http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/terrorists-now-attack-minorities
Punjabi Taliban take their revenge.
They had threatened that a legal case against their journalist friend Hamid Mir will result in dire consequences.
TV anchor questioned in Khwaja murder case
By Munawer Azeem
Friday, 28 May, 2010
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/tv-anchor-questioned-in-khwaja-murder-case-850
The next target will be late Khalid Khwaja’s son.
Osama seeks FIR against Hamid Mir, Osman Punjabi
Daily Times Monitor
LAHORE: Osama Khalid, son of Khalid Khawaja, on Tuesday submitted an application in the Shalimar Police Station for registration of an FIR against TV talk show host Hamid Mir and suspected terrorist Osman Punjabi for the murder of his father, a private TV channel reported.
Khalid Khawaja, a former Inter-Services Intelligence official, was murdered by a relatively less-known Asian Tigers militant group on April 23.
Osama alleged that the talk show host had instigated the terrorists to murder his father. He said the application was based on the audiotape of Mir’s conversation with a member of the Taliban, and he was ready to prove in court that the audio clip was original.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=20105\26\story_26-5-2010_pg1_7
Dear Humza Sahab,
Even Scoundrel like Brigadier Imtiaz has mentioned that “one should note what Ansar Abbasi sahab has mentioned, it is further mentioned that Rauf Klasra and Ansar Abbasi re-introduced Imtiaz {extremely and rabidly Anti-Shia] on the orders of Shaheen Sehbai through Jang/The News and last but not the least GEO TV [Saleem Safi was used] : Watch the Program and do read what Ansar Abbasi did with Hamid Mir [Bareek Kaam Dikhaya Hai Ansar Abbasi nay] Tonight with Jasmeen – 23 May 2010 MAY 23, 2010 . NO COMMENTS in Tonight with Jasmeen Jasmeed discusses the issue of Hamid Mir’s audio tape in today’s episode. http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/23/tonight-with-jasmeen-23-may-2010/
Ansar Abbasi quotes above in Jasmin Manzoor Program that He talked with Hamid Mir and Hamid said that its not his voice and then Ansar deny himself that Hamid also said that as per Hamid Mir “some of his old calls were mixed and rejoined!!! What a Tragedy. Is this what you call Colleague or Professional Courtesy. Shame on you Mr. Ansar.
Hamid Mir in Washington Times gives clean chit to the PPP Government and Ansar say that Hamid says that TOP PPP Woman is involved???? LOL What a joke.
ایشین ٹائیگرز کی جانب سے قتل کی دھمکی ملی ہے،اسامہ خالد
Updated : 5/20/2010 6:04:57 PM
اسلام آباد: وزیرستان میں قتل کئے گئے آئی ایس آئی کے سابق افسر خالد خواجہ کے بیٹے اسامہ خالد نے الزام عائد کیا ہے کہ انہیں بھی ایشین ٹائیگرز نامی تنظیم کی جانب سے قتل کی دھمکی ملی ہے ۔
اے آر وائی نیوز سے گفتگو کرتے ہوئے انہوں نے کہا کہ انہیں یہ دھمکی ایک غیرملکی نیوز ایجنسی کے ایک رپورٹر زریعے دی گئی ہے۔ صحافی نے ان سے رابطہ کیا اور کہا کہ ایشین ٹائیگرز نامی ایک تنظیم کی جانب سے اسے ایک ای میل موصول ہوئی ہے، جس میں ان کے لیئے یہ پیغام ہے کہ اگر حامد میر کے خلاف کوئی کارروائی کی گئی تو ان کا وہی حال ہو گا جو ان کے والد خالد خواجہ کا ہوا ہے۔
http://thearynews.com/urdusite/newsdetail.asp?nid=61327
lol
Fools don’t even know about Islamic Shariah and talk about Islam.
Comment may please be read in the light of Shariah [no offence intended towards Ahmedi or Quadiyani Community] I am with them in their grief.
Ahmedis are not Murtdas [Apostate] rather Minority [Declared Non Muslims by Assembly and Constitution] and they have every right to live a peaceful life in Pakistan and State should protect their Life, Honour and Property. Apostate are those who change their Religion and even if they change religion then to punish any such person is the responsibility of State [Qazi or Sultan if you talk of Shairah] not the Common Mob of Hoodlums. And if you open that door of Lynch Mob then nobody would be safe from this Anarchy and everybody would be “Enforcer” of Law. Lets assume if tomorrow a group declare that Barelvis or Deobandis or Wahabis are Apostate [their books declared that each other already] and started doing what happened in Lahore then what would be the situation then???? Ask those fools who without knowing “the Zimmi Laws” have become Born Again Imam Bukhari and Taymiyyah.
Shahbaz Sharif’s strategic alliance with Sipah-e-Sahaba is bearing fruit for the Punjab and also for the entire nation.
Previously in April 2010:
فیصل آباد: فائرنگ سےتین احمدی تاجر ہلاک
علی سلمان
بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، لاہور
رواں سال میں یہ پانچویں احمدی ہیں جنہیں مذہبی بنیادوں پر قتل کیا گیا: جماعت احمدیہ
پاکستانی پنجاب کے شہر فیصل آباد میں جماعت احمدیہ سے تعلق رکھنے والے تین تاجروں کو فائرنگ کرکے قتل کردیا گیا۔ جماعت احمدیہ کے ترجمان کا کہنا ہے کہ انہیں عقیدے کے بنیاد پر ہلاک کیا گیا ہے اور فیصل آباد میں باقاعدہ منصوبہ بندی کے تحت کاروباری احمدیوں کو ان کے عقیدے کی وجہ سے قتل کیا جا رہا ہے۔
پولیس کے مطابق ریل بازار کے دو تاجر بھائیوں ساٹھ سالہ شیخ اشرف اور ستاون سالہ شیخ مسعود اور ان میں سے ایک کا جوان بیٹا آصف مسعود جمعرات کی رات دس بجے اپنی کار میں گھر لوٹ رہے تھے جب راستے میں مسلح افراد نے ان پر فائرنگ کرکے انہیں قتل کردیا اور فرار ہوگئے۔
فیصل آباد کے سپرنٹنڈنٹ پولیس صادق علی ڈوگر نے بی بی سی کو بتایاکہ تینوں مقتولین کی کسی سے کوئی ذاتی دشمنی نہیں تھی البتہ یہ ثابت ہوا ہے کہ حملہ آوروں کا ہدف تینوں ہی تھے۔
جماعت احمدیہ کے ترجمان کا کہنا ہے کہ یہ قتل مذہبی منافرت کا نتیجہ ہے۔جماعت احمدیہ کے رکن نصراللہ بلوچ نے کہا کہ پاکستان میں احمدیوں کے خلاف باقاعدہ نفرت انگیز مہم چلائی جا رہی ہے اور حکومت انہیں تحفظ دینے میں ناکام ہے۔
جماعت احمدیہ کے ترجمان سلیم الدین نے اپنے ایک بیان میں کہا ہے کہ فیصل آباد میں کاروباری احمدیوں کو ایک منصوبے کےتحت قتل کیا جا رہا ہے اور کچھ عرصے پہلے بھی ایک احمدی تاجر کو ہلاک کیاگیا تھا۔
پاکستان کی پارلیمان احمدیوں کو غیر مسلم قراردے چکی ہے جبکہ سنہ انیس سو چوراسی کے امتناع قادیانیت آرڈنینس کے بعد ان پر مزید پابندیاں عائد کی گئیں۔
جماعت احمدیہ کے ترجمان کے کہنا ہےکہ اس آرڈننیس کے نفاذ کے بعد ان کے خلاف متعصبانہ کارروائیوں میں اضافہ ہوا اور اب تک کم از کم ایک سو دس احمدیوں کو مذہبی منافرت کی بنیاد پر قتل کیا جاچکاہے۔
فیصل آباد پولیس نے تہرے قتل کے الزام میں نامعلوم افراد کے خلاف تعزیرات پاکستان کے تحت مقدمہ درج کرلیا ہے۔
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/04/100402_ahmadis_killed.shtml
The gunmen opened fire shortly after Friday prayers and threw grenades at two Ahmadi worship places in Lahore’s Model Town and Garhi Shahu neighbourhoods.
Rizwan Naseer, director general of an ambulance service, told Reuters 30 bodies had been taken to hospitals in the city.
City officials had earlier put the death toll at 14.
“There are some hostages and we are planning an attack,” said Haider Ashraf, a senior police office in the neighbourhood of Garhi Shahu. “Their lives are under threat.”
Shooting continued at Garhi Shahu.
There was no immediate claim of responsibility, but suspicion quickly fell on the Pakistani Taliban.
“The operation is not even over yet, so it’s too early to say who is behind these attacks. But my guess is that like most other attacks, there would be some link to the Taliban or their associated militants,” said a Lahore-based security official.
In Model Town, police said one gunman had been arrested and another killed.
“The prayer leader was giving a sermon when we heard firing and blasts. Everybody stood up and then two gunmen barged into the place of worship and sprayed bullets,” Fateh Sharif, a 19-year-old student, told Reuters from Model Town.
“They had long beards. They were carrying rucksacks.”
Lahore’s deputy commissioner Sajjad Bhutta said a suicide vest packed with explosives was recovered from the worship place in Model Town, where some attackers escaped. One fired at a television van before the area was made safe.
“He was young, clean-shaven. He sprayed bullets at our van while fleeing the scene,” Rabia Mehmood, a reporter for Express Television, told Reuters.
Attacks launched after prayers
Witnesses said the assaults were launched shortly after prayers.
“I saw some gunmen run towards the Ahmadis’ place of worship and then I heard blasts and gunfire,” Mohammad Nawaz, a resident, told Reuters.
Ahmadis are a minority religious community founded in the late 19th century. They hold unorthodox beliefs, including that Jesus Christ survived the crucifixion and died in Kashmir.
Some also believe that prophets have come after Prophet Mohammad but that he retains his primacy.
Pakistan is the only Muslim state to have declared Ahmadis non-Muslims. Its four million-odd members have seen their religious rights in overwhelmingly Muslim Pakistan curtailed by law.
Pakistan, a key US ally in the fight against militancy, is often the scene of sectarian violence, with militants from Sunni Muslim groups attacking Shia Muslim and Christian communities.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/metropolitan/04-lahore-blasts-qs-07
LAHORE: At least 60 people have been killed and 85 others injured when terrorists in city’s two areas, Garhi Shahu and Model Town, started firing following blasts Friday.
The wave of terror once again struck the city after Manawan Police Training Centre and attack on Sri Lankan cricket team. The offices of security agencies have also been attacked in the city in last two years.
The worship places of Ahmadis have been targeted this time where several people who were busy offering prayers were trapped.
The bodies and injured have been taken to different hospitals of the city where emergency has been declared.
The police, rangers and other law enforcement agencies rushed to the sites and cordoned off the road.
Twelve people have been killed in Garhi Shahu while 15 killed in Model Town.
The firing once again started after a gap of two hours where two police officials, SP Maroof and SHO Majid, sustained injures.
The fear prevails in the city while several people including women were seen running here and there in search of their beloved ones.
Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah told SAMAA that the operation in Model Town has been completed. “The operation in Garhi Shahu is in final phase.”
He said that the law enforcement agencies have held two terrorists, adding that two suicide jackets have also been seized.
“The security in the city especially on sensitive places has been beefed up.”
Replying to a question Punjab Law Minister denied the security lapse.
Law enforcement agencies have apprehended a suspect from Garhi Shahu.
The firing and blasts took place at 1:35pm in both the areas. SAMAA
http://www.samaa.tv/News20494-60__killed_in_Lahore_worship_places_attacks.aspx
While watching the live broadcast on Geo TV, it struck my mind how words uttered to wrong people can have an impact on a community/minority of Pakistan. Hamid Mir had just earlier this month been involved in a conversation with the Punjabi Taliban and had talked about the “Mirzais” and Qadyanis. Within a few days time, the Punjabi Taliban have struck against the Ahmedi minority. Who has gained from all this episode?
It also came to mind the damaging impact of not calling a spade, a spade. I heard commentary like “Qadyanion kay 400 loag iss ibadatgah mayn jummay kay waqt ibadat kay liye thay!”. Similarly, terrorists being killed by the army operation in Waziristan are “shiddatpasand”!
I still remember those Bloody Days of 1994-1995-1996 when Imam Bargahs and Shia Community were the Targets and similar attacks were order of the Day in Karachi.
Militancy in Punjab
Dawn Editorial
Wednesday, 17 Mar, 2010
Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has been excoriated by all right-thinking individuals across Pakistan for his shocking comments about the PML-N sharing a common cause with the Taliban.
But away from the politics of the war against militancy, on the security front alarming new trends are emerging in Punjab. Here’s what is known. Earlier this month, the names contained in the FIA’s ‘red book’, a list of the country’s most-wanted criminal suspects, were made public: 25 of the 119 names on the list were of suspects from Punjab, the highest number for any province.
The key suspects in many attacks on security targets in recent months are southern Punjab-based members of four militant groups: Lashkar-i-Jhangvi, Jaish-i-Mohammad, Sipah-i-Sahaba and Harkatul Jihad al-Islami. The increase in fidayeen-style attacks (in which death is likely but not inevitable as with suicide attacks) has in particular caught the eye of investigators. Fidayeen attacks are the bread-and-butter tactic of Punjabi militants. Then in the last two days alone several tonnes of explosive materials and other weapons favoured by terrorists have been found in raids in Lahore.
Everything points to the terrifying reality that Punjab has a home-grown terrorism problem that appears to be growing by the day. And yet some elements have mischievously tried to play down the Punjab-militancy nexus by pointing to the fact that the groups involved are not ‘Punjabi’ because they have members who belong to other provinces too. There is no doubt that the other provinces also have a terrorism problem in their midst and they need to beef up counter-terrorism measures rapidly. But the violence in Punjab is real, it is present and it shows no sign of abating. Quibbling over whether there is such a thing as the Punjabi Taliban is beside the point: there are militants who live in and are from Punjab, these militants are attacking the state and the people, and they must be captured or eliminated.
It is true that the Punjab government is doing something to fight the threat: despite Mr Sharif’s stomach-churning comments, the provincial administration he oversees has deployed significant law-enforcement and intelligence resources to track down the Taliban. But the authorities appear to be approaching the problem as a narrow counter-terrorism issue. The wider problem is the infrastructure of hate and religious intolerance that is thriving in the province, often under official patronage. No matter how many militants the state captures or kills, there will always be more if the pipeline of hate continues to churn out brainwashed foot soldiers. The Punjab authorities must find a way, and the will, to shut down the pipeline of hate and intolerance.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/editorial/14-militancy-in-punjab-730-zj-06
These Political Islamists often forget that even during war following is not allowed:
“Do not kill the monks in monasteries” or “Do not kill the people who are sitting in places of worship” (Musnad of Ibn Hanbal).
“Punishment by fire does not behove anyone except the Master of the Fire” (Abu
Dawud).
The prophet (PBUH) is recorded as saying, “Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman” (Abu Dawud).
1) The Prophet SallAllahu ‘Alaihi wa-sallam said: “March forth in the name of Allah… Do not kill an old man, nor a child, nor a woman” [Ref: Sunnan Abu Dawud and Sunnan al-Bayhaqi]
2) According to the real Mufti – Ibn ‘Abbas – the Prophet would say upon despatching his armies: “March forth in the name of Allah! Fight those who disbelieve in Allah! But do not betray your trusts and covenants, nor should you kill children, nor monks in monasteries.” [Reference: Musnad Ahmad with Hasan chain according to Ahmad Shakir]
3) According to Handhalah ibn al-Rabi’, the Prophet send a message to Khalid saying: “Do not ever kill children nor labourer” [Reference: Ibn Majah, Abu Dawud, al-Hakim calssified it Sahih and al-Dhahabi agreed.
4) ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab said: “Fear Allah with regards to the farmers! Do not kill them unless that wage war against you” [Reference: Sunnan al-Bayhaqi and Ibn Abi Shaiba in his Musannaf]
5) Jabir – may Allah be pleased with him – said about the early Mujahideen, that “they would not kill the Mushrikeen traders”.
Islamic Code of Conduct in War.
The media presents many images of innocent women and children who are victims of jihadist suicide bombers. If jihadists use Islam to justify this violence, then Islamic teachings can also be used to discredit these abhorrent acts. In one Quranic verse, Prophet Muhammad comes across a slain woman while riding in battle, and
he frowns with anger. His attitude prompted a distinct code of conduct among Islamic warriors which includes:
• No killing of women, children, and innocents―these might include hermits, monks, or other religious leaders who were deemed noncombatants;
• No wanton killing of livestock and animals;
• No burning or destruction of trees and orchards; and,
• No destruction of wells.
Abu Bakr, the fi rst caliph after Muhammad’s death, formulated a detailed set of rules for Islamic conduct during war. He gave the following instructions to a Muslim army setting out for Syria, which was then governed by the Byzantine Empire: Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefi eld. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fi re, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy’s fl ock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone.
Rana Sanaullah has ties with sectarian terrorists? Shame on you, PML-N February 22nd, 2010 Rabia http://criticalppp.com/archives/6168
Justice Khawaja Sharif speaks once again, this time against Hindus – by Abdul Nishapuri March 17th, 2010 Abdul Nishapuri http://criticalppp.com/archives/7263
ابھی تک کسی مولوی نے مذمت نہیں کی ،میں ان ملاؤں سے پوچھتا ہوں کے کیا قادیانیوں کو جینے کا حق بھی نہیں ؟ ما نہ کے وہ مسلمان نہیں اور ہم نے قانون بھی پاس کروا لیا پر اب کیا مسلہ ہے ؟
کیا ان ملاؤں کا فتویٰ سب کو قتل کرنے کا کہتا ہے ؟ اس واقعے کے بعد سے بحث چل رہی ہے کے قادیانی کتنے کافر ہیں – طالبان کے اس قتل عام کی کوئی ملا مذمت نہیں کر رہا ہے .
اب ایک طالبان کے حمایتی نکل کر آجائیں گے اور ان کا دفع کرنا شورو ہو جائیں گے
یہ دیوبندی جماعتی مولوی یہ باتیں کے طالبان شیعوں ،قادیانیوں کو بھی مارتے ہیں اور اپس میں بھی ایک دوسرے کو پھر بھی یہ کیوں ان کو سپورٹ کرتے ہیں ،کل کو یہ انھیں بھی قتل کریں گے .
لگتا ہے پنجابی طالبان کی قیادت حامد میر کرتا ہے ،فون پر جو جو اس نے باتیں کیں ان سب کو مروا رہا ہے ، اور جنگ گروپ ان طالبانوں کی خوب سپورٹ کر رہا ہے
When it comes to “Maslak Bazi” these Rampant Mullahs never spared each other and when it comes to Politics and Power they Form “MMA” Yaani Firqa Parasti Kay Khilaf Firqa Paraston Ka Ittehad.
When they have supporters like these then “Offer Fatheha”
Jamat-e-Islami/Mawdudi Murdered Zulfikar Ali Bhutto
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/04/jamat-e-islamimawdudi-murdered-zulfikar.html
Supporters like these:
ISLAMABAD: One of the top security agencies on Wednesday picked up Raja Ehsan Aziz, a member of Tehrik-e-Islami (TI), for his alleged connections with terrorists who had attacked the Parade Lane Mosque in Rawalpindi and Moon Market in Lahore. Tehrik-e-Islami is a splinter group of the JI. Two female members of the Tehrik have already been taken into custody. Sarwat Wahid, another female member whose son’s car was used in the Parade Lane Mosque attack, is missing. Also her son, Jawad, who was studying in Faisalabad after doing A Level from Beacon House School System, is missing. Aziz, a graduate of Columbia University who also served on senior positions at the Foreign Office, is a retired professor of International Relations, Quaid-i-Azam University. His elder son is an Army doctor. Aziz was taken away from his house in G/10-3 on Wednesday evening by sleuths of the Counter-Terrorism Cell, his wife Amira Aziz told The News. Amira, an ex-MNA of Jamaat-e-Islami and now a Shura member of the Tehrik, is a religious scholar and writes columns in an Urdu daily. Aziz’s driver, Phool Zeb from Nowshera, has already been arrested as investigators found a mobile SIM allegedly used for conversation during the attacks on the Parade Lane Mosque and Moon Market, was issued in his name. Likewise, the car used in the mosque attack belonged to Jawad, the son of a Tehrik-e-Islami woman, Sarwat Wahid, a resident of I-8 Sector, Islamabad. Both of them are missing since then. Likewise, Aziz’ son, Omer, a student of Islamic International University, has not returned home for the last five days.
Jamat e Islami Terrorist Dr. Usman was mastermind of Attack on GHQ
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeUXYXiAkyM&feature=player_embedded
Aziz has been picked up for the second time, his wife said, denying any links of the family with terrorism incidents. “I’m a sworn enemy of America and can pay any price for it but I strongly oppose terrorism within Pakistan,” Amira Aziz told The News. She said the intelligence operatives had been following the women activists of Tehrik-e-Islami for the last six months and harassed them. She alleged that her husband was beaten black and blue when picked up last time and kept in illegal custody for a night. Amira said her son, Omer, a heart patient, was very upset when intelligence guys kept his father in their custody for a night. A female member of Tehrik, Najma Sana, who lives in G-9/1, is already in the agency’s custody for the last 10 days. Sarwat Wahid, after being chased by the intelligence agency, left Islamabad for Karachi where she was again pursued by the police. Her sister and children in Karachi have been arrested to press for recovery of Sarwat who has gone underground there. Sarwat’s son, Jawad, is also missing. Tahira Mumtaz, another female member of the Tehrik, was twice called for investigation over her alleged assistance to Sarwat to flee the capital. Altaf Aziz Khattack, SHO, said he was not aware of any such incident. He asked this correspondent to take up the matter with the R A Bazaar police in whose jurisdiction the mosque was attacked. When contacted, officials of the concerned police station said that they had not arrested Ehsan Aziz, adding the Army was investigating the attack and the matter may be taken up with them. The DG ISPR could not be contacted. REFERENCE: JI splinter group leader, females held for links to suicide attackers Friday, December 18, 2009 By Umar Cheema http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=214063
Murderer amongst US: Imran Khan’s Support: Then Musharraf Now Taliban!
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/12/imran-khans-support-then-musharraf-now.html
Khawaja Sharif and his likes should dig the grave of Jinnah [Founder of Pakistan and he was Shia] and Sir Zafarullah Chaudhry [First Foreign Minister of Pakistan nominated by Jinnah and Zafar was Quadiyani] and award the remains the Punishment of Apostasy: Pakistani bloggers’ blackout on Shia killings… http://letusbuildpakistan.blogspot.com/2009/03/pakistani-bloggers-blackout-on-shia.html
Salute to the courage of people at LUBP. You guys are really brave and your love for your country is exemplary.
Thanks to my ignorance i dont know who was heading the government when Qadyanis were ruled non muslims in this islamic state but he must be denounced as even bigger culprit than hamid mir and geo tv
Soft target for militants in Lahore
Page last updated at 15:41 GMT, Friday, 28 May 2010 16:41 UK
By M Ilyas Khan
BBC News, Islamabad
Ahmadi mosques have been targeted
The pattern of attack in Lahore is by now all too familiar for the residents of Pakistan’s cultural capital.
There has been something of a lull in the grand co-ordinated assaults. The last major attack was in March when a double suicide bombing killed dozens.
But militants have now for the first time targeted the Ahmadi religious minority. Shia Muslims have been targeted over the past year.
As a minority Islamic sect, the Ahmadis are also a soft target.
Ahmadis consider themselves Muslim and follow all Islamic rituals. But they were declared non-Muslims in Pakistan in 1974 and in 1984 they were legally barred from proselytising or identifying themselves as Muslims.
The are the most suppressed of all minority communities in Pakistan and are not free to perform all their desired religious functions.
They are also reviled by the general public. Popular sentiment has been positioned against the Ahmadis for some time. One reason is that because they do not consider Muhammad to be the last prophet, they are considered heretics.
WHO ARE THE AHMADIS?
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A minority Islamic sect founded in 1889, Ahmadis believe their own founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who died in 1908, was a prophet
This is anathema to most Muslims who believe the last prophet was Muhammad, who died in 632
Most Ahmadi followers live in the Indian subcontinent
Ahmadis have been the subject of sectarian attacks and persecution in Pakistan and elsewhere
In 1974 the Pakistani government declared the sect non-Muslim
Who are the Ahmadis?
Members of the community have suffered at the hands of mobs rather than organised militants.
There have been occasions where they were gunned down in targeted attacks and militants have thrown hand grenades into Ahmadi mosques.
Such incidents have been prevalent in Punjab province, of which Lahore is the capital, and where most Ahmadis live.
Punjab is also where a number of sectarian militant groups have been active for decades. Anti-Ahmadi sentiment is decades-old in Pakistan, so in some senses the Ahmadis were an obvious target.
‘Taliban style’
But there has been nothing on this scale from organised militants.
Friday’s attack is in the Taliban style: co-ordinated, simultaneous attacks such as the brazen assault on the Sri Lankan cricket team in 2009.
The mosques in Model Town and Garhi Shahu are 15km (9.5 miles) apart and attackers stormed both mosques around 2pm.
This is the first time that Ahmadi places of worship have been the target of daring organised Taliban-style attacks.
But this is also the first spectacular attack in Lahore since March, and indicates that military action against their bases in the north-western tribal region has not yet destroyed their ability to strike at will.
Lahore has always been an obvious target being the cultural and political centre of Pakistan’s most populous province.
Punjabi militant groups have been active here since the 1980s. Sectarian attacks emerged after these groups were exposed to bomb-making and weaponry in Afghanistan during that period.
Groups like Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) have long been responsible for sectarian militant attacks. Many such groups are largely led by Punjabis.
Many of these groups are closely allied with the Taliban – they have hideouts in the Punjab.
Militant attacks in Lahore have long been seen as the handiwork of Punjabi Taliban in association with such long-established sectarian outfits.
On the ground in Punjab, it is difficult to draw a line between these groups. It is difficult to tell one from the other so closely associated have they become.
One certainty is that soft targets such as these will continue to be attacked.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/10185186.stm
Who had raised anti-Ahmadi banners in Lahore in the last few days? Who else could be other than Nawaz Sharif’s PML-N and the Sipah-e-Sahaba?
Sharif brothers themselves participated in an anti-Ahmadi jalsa a few weeks ago in Lahore, organized by a terrorist organization ‘Khatm-e-Nabuwat’, in which anti-Ahmadi speeches were made.
A person claiming to represent the “Punjabi chapter” of the Pakistan Taliban, formally known as the Tehrik-e-Taliban, said the group was behind the attack, according the private Geo TV station.
The attacks on minority communities were expected as banners of hatred against minorities were displayed in several parts of Lahore on Thursday. One of the anonymous banner in Ghari Shahu area read “Jews Christians and Ahmedis are the enemies of Islam.”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Taliban-militants-attack-Lahore-mosques-kill-70/articleshow/5986197.cms
احمدی مراکز پر حملے، اسی افراد ہلاک
آخری وقت اشاعت: جمعـء 28 مئ 2010 , 09:56 GMT 14:56 PST
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/05/100528_lahore_explosion.shtml
پاکستان میں جماعت احمدیہ کو سنہ انیس سو تہتر میں پارلیمان نے غیر مسلم قرار دیدیا تھا اور بعد میں جنرل ضیاءالحق کےدور میں آنے والے ایک نئے قانون امتناع قادیانیت آرڈیننس کے تحت ان پر مزید پابندیاں عائد کی گئیں۔جماعت احمدیہ کا ترجمان کا کہنا ہے کہ ان کے اراکین کو پاکستان میں شدید مذہبی تعصب کا سامنا ہے اور متعدد بار ان کی عبادت گاہوں پر حملے ہوچکے ہیں اور ہر سال ٹارگٹ کلنگ کے واقعات میں احمدیوں کو اپنی جان سے ہاتھ دھونا پڑتے ہیں۔
Comment from BBC Urdu;
غیر مسلم اقلیت تو نماز جمعہ ادا کر رہی تھی اور مسلمان اکثریت سے تعلق رکھنے والے ان کو قتل کر رہے تھے فرض نماز چھوڑ کر۔
عمران، کراچی
Excellent Slap Sir!
Now read about an Anarchist who is allowed to commit Murder through a TV Program:
Shocking TV interview haunts Dr Aamir Liaquat’s career
Daily Times Monitor Daily Times – Site Edition Thursday, May 26, 2005 ISLAMABAD/WASHINGTON: President Pervez Musharraf’s favourite Islamic TV preacher, the minister of state for religious affairs, Dr Aamir Liaquat Hussain, has finally shot himself, not in the foot but almost in the head, South Asia Tribune reported on Wednesday. “The minister, who was already in trouble over his allegedly fake degrees scandal and his sharp criticism of the Pakistan Army and Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and is being replaced by the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), despite all his denials, went on record in a TV interview last week and said Pakistan supported Iraqi insurgent leader Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi and what he was doing to US forces in Iraq,” it reported. “Aamir said this in an interview to ARY’s famous host, Dr Shahid Masood, on the subject of a fatwa (decree) issued by some Pakistani religious scholars recently, on whether suicide bombing was permissible in Islam. Aamir had been called to discuss the fatwa along with senior Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal leader Hafiz Hussain Ahmed,” it said. “The young and inexperienced minister, a loud-mouth who offends listeners, said such ‘truthful’ things about Pakistan’s policy on jihad in Iraq and Kashmir and even so strongly blasted President Musharraf for supporting the US that ARY TV decided not to run the programme on popular talk show Views-on-News,” South Asia Tribune added. Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, who was the other guest on the talk show, was shocked out of his senses when he heard the comments of the minister during the interview. He asked Aamir several times whether he was speaking in his personal capacity or on behalf of the MQM or the Musharraf government. When he was told that he was representing the government’s point of view, Hafiz Hussain Ahmed reportedly could not refrain from making the following remarks: ‘If this is what enlightened moderation of General Musharraf means, who in hell can oppose it. The MMA will fully support the MQM and Musharraf if this is the official policy’,” it said. “The whole show became so ridiculous that ARY decided not to run it, but the tape immediately became a hot potato and was soon in tremendous demand from all interested parties,” South Asia Tribune reported.
Hafiz Hussain Ahmed confirmed the story of the censored TV show to South Asia Tribune. It quoted him as saying that he was shortly going to protest to the ARY TV Channel for not running the interview, as the minister had repeatedly said that it was the official government policy. “The minister agreed with all the points that I raised and all the arguments for jihad that I made and concurred that it was jihad being fought by Muslims in Iraq and the Pakistani government supported it. I was so surprised that I told him on record that if this is the meaning of enlightened moderation of General Musharraf, we (the MMA) are with you and kon kambakht mukhalifat kar sakta hay (which Godforsaken soul can oppose it),” it quoted him as saying. “ARY officials in Dubai and Islamabad refused to say why the interview had not been shown but Hafiz Hussain Ahmed said he would be protesting to the channel and urging them to release the tape as it would open the eyes of the world,” South Asia Tribune reported. “When Hafiz Hussain Ahmed started asking questions about the interview, the secret service got wind of what had happened and immediately demands were made from the ARY administration to let the authorities have a copy of the dreaded tape,” it said. “Surprisingly, the London headquarters of the MQM also got wind of what had happened in the interview and Altaf Hussain, who had already summoned Aamir Liaquat Hussain to London, also started looking for a copy of the tape,” it added.
South Asia Tribune quotes US diplomatic sources in Islamabad as telling it that they had heard about the interview and that they would like to hear the tape and what the minister had said about President Musharraf’s policy about suicide attacks by Zarqawi’s men on US forces. It quoted sources as saying later that Pakistani authorities had informed the US diplomats about the contents of the interview and everyone might soon be watching the tape of the interview. “Whether President Musharraf, Altaf Hussain or the US diplomats have received the cassette and heard Dr Aamir’s comments or not is not yet confirmed, but experts in Islamabad said it is only a matter of time that everyone concerned will hear what this outspoken minister had to say and then the chips would fall where they may,” it added. South Asia Tribune quotes sources close to Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, who heard the minister in awe during the interview, as saying that the minister had become emotional while talking about jihad and suicide bombings and was grilled by the host of the programme, Dr Shahid Masood, who almost trapped him into making statements which no politician in such a high political position would make.
It quotes the sources as saying that Aamir had openly criticised President Musharraf for his pro-US policies and had fully supported the jihadis in Iraq, Palestine and Kashmir, but at the same time he had insisted that suicide bombings in Pakistan were against Islam. “‘Anywhere, if there is one American soldier present, suicide bombing is permissible in Islam,’ Dr Aamir was quoted by these sources as having said on record. ‘There are times when the truth must be told,’ he added in one remark,” South Asia Tribune reported. “The minister was the main sponsor when about 50 Pakistani religious leaders issued the fatwa against suicide bombings in Pakistan, which according to some analysts, was done to please President Musharraf. But in his exuberance the minister was caught on the wrong foot when questioned by ARY and Geo TV Channels about such attacks in Iraq and other places,” it added. South Asia Tribune quoted sources in London as saying that MQM Chief Altaf Hussain had already been told by the army to name a replacement for the minister, as he had become too controversial and out-spoken in his remarks and it was difficult to keep him at the cabinet post.
“The London sources also revealed a shocking story about Dr Aamir’s brother, Imran Liaquat Hussain, who studied in Iran and later declared himself an ‘Ayatollah’ opposed to the clerics of Iran,” it said, adding, “Dr Imran was arrested in Iran and later came to Karachi where he took up a fight with MQM Chief Altaf Hussain and declared him ‘an agent of Iran, and a mafia don’. He also issued a fatwa calling for Altaf Hussain’s death and accused the MQM of Wall Street Journal’s journalist Daniel Pearl’s kidnapping and murder.”
“He claimed that the MQM was getting funds from Iran,” South Asia Tribune said.
“In response to his statements in 2002, Altaf Hussain pressured his father, who was also a senior MQM leader to disown his son and Sheikh Liaquat Hussain did exactly that, saying the statements issued by his ‘Ayatollah’ son were stupid, misleading and provocative and he as his father had nothing to do with these views of his son,” it added. “Imran Liaquat Hussain also has a website where he has numerous press clippings of his war against the MQM and its leader Altaf Hussain. He also supported President Musharraf in the 2002 referendum,” it reported. URL: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/print.asp?page=20055\26\story_26-5-2005_pg7_45
Mr. “AKHTAR” – who wrote and posted his above illegal, defamatory/libelous lies, misleading disinformation and malicious propaganda (on May 28, 2010 at 06:55, Comment No. 1 – 9990) against Journalist SYED ADEEB and Journalist HAMID MIR – must be arrested by the police, prosecuted by prosecutors/lawyers and locked up in a jail by judges/justices/jury, because “Akhtar” has committed the unlawful hate crime of defamation (libel) and illegally incited/instigated terrorism, violence, hatred and crimes against America’s respected, legendary Journalist SYED ADEEB and Pakistan’s respected, noted Journalist HAMID MIR.
If a libel (defamation) lawsuit is filed against Mr. “Akhtar” and the Critical PPP LUBP website – http://www.CriticalPPP.org – then “Akhtar”, who has hidden his full legal name and location from all the PPP LUBP blog readers, will NOT be able to prove his malicious lies in any court of law, and then he will have to pay punitive and compensatory damages (fines) to both Syed Adeeb and Hamid Mir for defaming/harming their personal/professional reputation, and for his illegal, false, malicious, libelous/defamatory and hateful comments against Mr. Adeeb and Mr. Mir.
PPP LUBP blog Founder/Editor Abdul Nishapuri, PPP LUBP blog Coordinator Ali Arqam Durrani, all other PPP LUBP blog co-editors and PPP LUBP blog Research Specialist Aamir Mughal should NOT allow anyone to post/publish his/her malicious lies against any person in the PPP LUBP blog/website as legally required by relevant laws of the USA, Canada, UK, Pakistan and other countries of the world.
Human Rights Justice Forum (HRJF)
http://www.HRJF.net
Virginia, United States of America (USA)
Dear Mr. Syed or whoever you are??? What we or other LUBP should or shouldn’t do is none of your business. Don’t lecture while you are sitting in USA [Daarul Kufr]. Even living in USA is Haram. Be careful when you raise a finger and spread lies by taking the name of everybody [that includes me] and hurl false allegation. Sitting in Virginia [USA – Daarul Kufr] and passing judgement on everybody won’t do. Shame on you. I have served Government of Pakistan for 11 Years and honorably resigned from service with Honour and I don’t hide behind anonymous IDs. Shove you thread wherever it is appropriate and if you have any objection on somebody’s views then reply nobody stops you to comment [provided comment are not abusive and hate mongering].
I know you very well. You have been very active since 2002 on elists.
Dear Syed Sahab,
If you are really living in USA then you should immediately leave that country and settle in Daarul Islaam i.e. any Muslim Country [try to get Saudi, UAE, Kuwaiti or Qatari Nationality by surrendering US Passport and apply for Nationality through Pakistani Passport in any Arab Country mentioned above and then see what happens].
What the hell is Human Rights – Human Rights Justice is a Haraam Term as per Islam because it is invented by by a Haraam Organization UNO and its Charter is also Haraam. There is no such thing called Human Rights in Shariah. If there is then provide the reference. Also do file a Petition in US Supreme Court [since you are an American Citizen] against Camp Gitmo.
@Human Rights Justice Forum nam nihad Syed and bay adab adeeb – we know you are neither Syed nor Adeeb.
to hell with you and other hate mongers Earthman / International Professor, Abidullah Jan, Dr Shahid Qureshi, and other operatives of the Hizb ut-Tahrir, Jamaat Islami, Taliban and Al Qaeda who are conducting their dirty cyber jihad on the internet with different fake names and identities.
Morons such as yourself must be arrested immediately by the Cyber Crime Monitoring Authorities in the USA and elsewhere (probably you are hiding somewhere in Waziristan instead of the USA) for spreading hate speech and inciting violence.
@ Humza Ikram
Print Media also quoted 95 Halak…. Were they not Shaheed?
Were they not Paksitani at least… is main to kisi ko shak nahi than kya is Jang main un ki qurbaniyan Lafaz HALAK tak reh jayeen gi?
Sarah Khan, Aamir Mughal wrote above that comments posted/published in the PPP LUBP blog should not be “abusive” and “hate mongering”. But read the above comments of Akhtar, Aamir Mughal and Sarah Khan, which are definitely false, malicious, defamatory/libelous, abusive and full of hate.
Therefore, Sarah Khan and Akhtar must be arrested by the police for committing the crime of defamation (libel), writing ridiculous lies, inciting violence, spreading hate and promoting hate crimes against respectable, honorable and eminent journalists, scholars and human rights advocates through the PPP LUBP blog. Sarah it is a shame that your parents did not teach you any manners. You are not qualified to be a co-editor of the PPP LUBP blog, because you don’t even know how to write in a respectful, decent, or reasonable manner. Therefore, you must resign now, go back to school to learn how to write and then go to a college or university to study the art of journalism or writing.
Unfortunately, instead of discussing major current issues in an academic, intellectual, or civilized way, the PPP LUBP blog co-editors, Sarah Khan, Akhtar, Aamir Mughal and other defamers have turned this wonderful PPP LUBP website into a blog of defamation (libel/slander), lies, disinformation, propaganda and nonsense. Dear PPP LUBP blog co-editors, feel some shame, show some respect and stop your personal malicious attacks on many journalists, writers and other persons.
Journalists Scholars Forum (JSF)
http://pressforum.wordpress.com
Virginia, USA
So what if we have done this? You have been saying ad nauseaum that PPP is corrupt [without any evidence] therefore net result is Corrupt PPP=CORRUPT LUBP=CORRUPT LUBP SUPPORTERS. LOL
Shah Jee,
Pakistani Muslims are indulged in this Bad Habit of Declaring anybody Shaheed and then they also talk of Islam. If we talk of Islam, Quran and Shariah then as per rule “we can only pray for those “who we suspect that they could be Shaheed/Martyr” because only Allah knows who is Shaheed.
@Journalists Scholars Forum Bay Adab Adeeb, why are you using various wordpress blogs to hide your real ulgy identity.
Here is your set of lies exposed by a US journalist:
One Web site often cited by Professor Herold is the San Francisco-based Pakistan News Service.
Its Washington bureau chief, Syed Adeeb, is a pleasant, helpful man who explained that although PNS has foreign correspondents, much of its news is culled from other online news agencies. Most of the stories on civilian casualties were from another Web site, Information Times.
I thanked Adeeb, hung up the phone and checked out Information Times. I was surprised to find that its chief editor was none other than Syed Adeeb! I called him back for another chat.
Adeeb says that he receives reports from news services via e-mail and every day consults more than a dozen Web sites, mostly those of Pakistani news agencies. Do any of the agencies have reporters who actually go into Afghanistan to cover the war? I asked.
“Their editors don’t allow it; it is very dangerous. They could get killed,” he replied. Occasionally some reporters manage to get inside Afghanistan, he says, but “99 percent of the reporters are based in Pakistan. I haven’t talked to any reporters who said they can actually tell me they were there.”
Adeeb offered to send me a list of the Web sites he regularly visits. And, he added, “We also published several articles by an American professor who has studied the issue.”
What’s his name?
Marc Herold of New Hampshire.
http://www.ajr.org/article.asp?id=2491
Is this your picture on facebook?
http://www.ajr.org/article.asp?id=2491
Sarah Khan and Akhtar, in this PPP LUBP webpage, you have written malicious lies, defamatory/derogatory remarks and hateful comments against respected journalists – Dr. Shahid Qureshi (me), Mr. Syed Adeeb, Mr. Hamid Mir, Mr. Abid ullah Jan and the International Professor – without publishing any legal evidence or proof to prove your false allegations and libelous comments. This proves that you two are malicious liars, vicious hate-mongers and infamous name-callers (bullies), who are either paid by or voluntarily working for the PPP corrupt politicians to defame/malign innocent critical journalists.
Liar Akhtar, your stupid, ridiculous comments do not make any sense, which are about an April 2002 article of the American Journalism Review (AJR), whose reporter interviewed and quoted Pakistan News Service (PNS) former Washington Bureau Chief Journalist Syed Adeeb. Ironically, Aamir Mughal is an ethnic brother of PNS ex-Editor Asim Mughal. Read this WSWS.org webpage which proves that Mr. Adeeb’s articles about Russian and Western imperialism in illegally occupied Afghanistan, published in the Information Times, the PNS and the Information Press, are totally true and based on real facts and accurate figures:
http://www.wsws.org/category/as-afgh.shtml
Half-educated Aamir Mughal, read the following three true, informative and educational articles, which were first published in the Information Press – http://www.InformPress.com – by its Chief Editor Mr. Syed Adeeb – who is an eminent, truthful and intellectual journalist – to learn the truth about the PPP, MQM, ANP and PML-Q corrupt, barbarous and criminal politicians:
1. U.S. SENATE REPORT SAYS ASIF ALI ZARDARI STOLE OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS FROM PAKISTAN
By SYED ADEEB
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/archive/index.php/t-28242.html
2. Pakistan Army and Courts Must Hang Criminal Traitor Asif Ali Zardari for his Crimes
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/archive/index.php/t-30466.html
3. Bring the Musharraf-Aziz-Altaf Crime Mafia to Legal Justice
http://www.petitiononline.com/trimafia/petition.html
Dr. Shahid Qureshi
Editor, The London Post
London, UK
Website: http://www.thelondonpost.net
Syed Adeeb’s critical article on LUBP: (look at his silly face)
http://criticalppp.com/archives/11282
REQUEST FROM MODERATORS OF LUBP:
PUT THE PICTURES OF AAMIR LIAQUAT HUSSAIN, HAMID MIR AND GEO/JANG LOGO ON MAIN PAGE OF LUBP. amongst the Alleged Murderers of Lahore Tragedy. GEO TV didn’t stop its normal transmission and shamelessly telecast “Comedy Show Hum Sab Umeed Say Hein”
Sarah Khan and Akhtar, in this PPP LUBP webpage, you have written malicious lies, defamatory/derogatory remarks and hateful comments against respected journalists – Dr. Shahid Qureshi (me), Mr. Syed Adeeb, Mr. Hamid Mir, Mr. Abid ullah Jan and the International Professor – without publishing any legal evidence or proof to prove your false allegations and libelous comments. This proves that you two are malicious liars, vicious hate-mongers and infamous name-callers (bullies), who are either paid by or voluntarily working for the PPP corrupt politicians to defame/malign innocent critical journalists.
Liar Akhtar, your stupid, ridiculous comments do not make any sense, which are about an April 2002 article of the American Journalism Review (AJR), whose reporter interviewed and quoted Pakistan News Service (PNS) former Washington Bureau Chief Journalist Syed Adeeb. Ironically, Aamir Mughal is an ethnic brother of PNS ex-Editor Asim Mughal. Read this WSWS.org webpage which proves that Mr. Adeeb’s articles about Russian and Western imperialism in illegally occupied Afghanistan, published in the Information Times, the PNS and the Information Press, are totally true and based on real facts and accurate figures:
http://www.wsws.org/category/as-afgh.shtml
Half-educated Aamir Mughal, read the following three true, informative and educational articles, which were first published in the Information Press – http://www.InformPress.com – by its Chief Editor Mr. Syed Adeeb, who is an eminent, truthful and intellectual journalist, to learn the truth about the PPP, MQM, ANP and PML-Q corrupt, barbarous and criminal politicians:
1. U.S. SENATE REPORT SAYS ASIF ALI ZARDARI STOLE OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS FROM PAKISTAN
By SYED ADEEB
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/archive/index.php/t-28242.html
2. Pakistan Army and Courts Must Hang Criminal Traitor Asif Ali Zardari for his Crimes
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/archive/index.php/t-30466.html
3. Bring the Musharraf-Aziz-Altaf Crime Mafia to Legal Justice
http://www.petitiononline.com/trimafia/petition.html
Dr. Shahid Qureshi
Editor, The London Post
London, UK
Website: http://www.thelondonpost.net
Sarah Khan and Akhtar, in this PPP LUBP webpage, you have written malicious lies, defamatory/derogatory remarks and hateful comments against respected journalists – Dr. Shahid Qureshi (me), Mr. Syed Adeeb, Mr. Hamid Mir, Mr. Abid ullah Jan and the International Professor – without publishing any legal evidence or proof to prove your false allegations and libelous comments. This proves that you two are malicious liars, vicious hate-mongers and infamous name-callers (bullies), who are either paid by or voluntarily working for the PPP corrupt politicians to defame/malign innocent critical journalists.
Liar Akhtar, your stupid, ridiculous comments do not make any sense, which are about an April 2002 article of the American Journalism Review (AJR), whose reporter interviewed and quoted Pakistan News Service (PNS) former Washington Bureau Chief Journalist Syed Adeeb. Ironically, Aamir Mughal is an ethnic brother of PNS ex-Editor Asim Mughal. Read this WSWS.org webpage which proves that Mr. Adeeb’s articles about Russian and Western imperialism in illegally occupied Afghanistan, published in the Information Times, the PNS and the Information Press, are totally true and based on real facts and accurate figures:
http://www.wsws.org/category/as-afgh.shtml
Half-educated Aamir Mughal, read the following three true, informative and educational articles, which were first published in the Information Press – http://www.InformPress.com – by its Chief Editor Mr. Syed Adeeb, who is an eminent, truthful and intellectual journalist, to learn the truth about the PPP, MQM, ANP and PML-Q corrupt, barbarous and criminal politicians:
1. U.S. SENATE REPORT SAYS ASIF ALI ZARDARI STOLE OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS FROM PAKISTAN
By SYED ADEEB
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/archive/index.php/t-28242.html
2. Pakistan Army and Courts Must Hang Criminal Traitor Asif Ali Zardari for his Crimes
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/archive/index.php/t-30466.html
3. Bring the Musharraf-Aziz-Altaf Crime Mafia to Legal Justice
http://www.petitiononline.com/trimafia/petition.html
Dr. Shahid Qureshi
Editor, The London Post
London, UK
Website: http://www.thelondonpost.net
@The London Post Dr Shahid Qureshi sahib, thanks for the note, and sorry for any inconvenience caused.
I leave your case in able hands of Sarah, Akhtar and Aamir Mughal.
@The London Post Dr Shahid Siddiqui aka Syed Adeeb aka Earthman aka International Professor aka Abid Ullah Jan:
You have different fake names and ids but you cannot fool critical PPP supporters. You are busted big time; your days of freedom are numbered. Soon FBI will be hovering around your ghetto and you will be smoked out for a free trip to Gitmo. Happy vacations!
LOL:) That’s good one:))) Prove it.
Dear Whoever you are?
I have learned a Trade Trick during my CAREER with IB [Government of Pakistan with Honour] which is called “Elicitation” {means a. To bring or draw out (something latent); educe. b. To arrive at (a truth, for example) by logic. 2. To call forth, draw out, or provoke (a reaction, for example). } and your efforts above were hapless and hopeless. You want to know about me, here are the details [can be verified and re-checked or you can call Mujahid Barelvi, Dawn’s HR or Senior Editor Muhammad Ali Siddiqui, or AP Bureau Ashraf Khan, or The News International Former Editor Ms. Humma Ahmed or HR of the Jang Group and then you can spread your propaganda on me all over the World. One more source for my credentials, place a call with Sultan Lakhani of Express News Channel and discuss with him ] and you can shove your information wherever it is appropriate: Unethical Behavior of Express News TV Pakistan. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/09/unethical-behavior-of-express-news-tv.html
Don’t rely on US Reports too much neither you should rely on US Newspapers or even Time Weekly because these Newspapers are the agents of Zionists [You live in a country which is the biggest Zionist Supporters] Since you have quoted US Papers on Zardari and also believing on the same so let me quote few very damaging US Papers on Pakistan [tell me do you believe these Reports]: REFERENCE: From The Sunday Times September 20, 2009 Investigation: Nuclear scandal – Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan – The Pakistani scientist who passed nuclear secrets to the world’s rogue states has been muzzled by his government. In a smuggled letter, AQ Khan reveals his side of the story http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6839044.ece
A nuclear power’s act of proliferation – Accounts by controversial scientist assert China gave Pakistan enough enriched uranium in ’82 to make 2 bombs By R. Jeffrey Smith and Joby Warrick Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, November 13, 2009 SOURCE: The Washington Post
URL: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/12/AR2009111211060.html?hpid=topnews
Do you have firm believe on such US Reports which are full of Anti Pakistan Bias, since you have quoted US Sources on Zardari so let me quote few: Cheney went to great lengths to cover-up Pakistan’s nuclear weaponry. In a New Yorker article On the Nuclear Edge published on March 29, 1993, http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1993/03/29/1993_03_29_056_TNY_CARDS_000363214 – The Veep and Pakistan
Cheney Helped Cover-Up Nuclear Proliferation in 1989, So Pentagon Could Sell Pakistan Fighter Jets By JASON LEOPOLD March 8, 2004 http://www.counterpunch.org/leopold03082004.html
Who would decide the Veracity of these so-called Reports, here are few more US Reports on Pakistan [US Reports which you fondly quote] Ronald Reagan, William Casey and Jihad http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/ronald-reagan-william-case-and-jihad.html
Prove what you say about me above!
Pakistan News Service: Pakistan News Service © PakTribune.com.
http://www.paktribune.com/news/
Dear Mr. Whoever you are?
You are quoting from Kaafir Socialist Websites and I hope you are in agreement with the website on Blasphemy Law [amazingly LUBP and Kaafir Website share the same views on Balsphemy Law]: Protests mount against Pakistan’s blasphemy laws
By Ali Ismail 1 October 2009 http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/oct2009/paki-o01.shtml
Quite a website you quote to defend “Pakistan”: Gul was the quintessential product of this reactionary policy. Zia appointed him as ISI head in 1987 at the height of the war in Afghanistan. Following Zia’s assassination in 1988, he continued in that post after Bhutto’s daughter Benazir took over as prime minister. The withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan allowed the ISI to capitalise on a wave of anger and disaffection in 1989 in Indian-controlled Kashmir and forge links with the emerging Kashmiri insurgency. Gul was transferred from his ISI post in 1989 after he promoted the formation of a right-wing Islamist coalition in opposition to Bhutto’s Pakistan People’s Party (PPP). The US, Pakistan and the “terrorist” Hamid Gul
10 December 2008 http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/dec2008/pers-d10.shtml
Quetta massacre: sectarian violence on the rise in Pakistan By Deepal Jayasekera
2 August 2003 http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/aug2003/paki-a02.shtml
It may be noted Federal Minister for Information Qamar Zaman Kaira has already condemned this conspiracy against Hamid Mir many times. – Politicians condemn anti-Hamid Mir propaganda, demand govt to unmask secret hands
ISLAMABAD (SANA): Leaders of five different political parties have condemned a baseless propaganda campaign against senior journalist Hamid Mir and demanded the government to expose the secret hands trying to silence the voice of free media through blackmailing tactics. http://www.sananews.net/english/2010/05/28/politicians-condemn-anti-hamid-mir-propaganda-demand-govt-to-unmask-secret-hands/
Five political parties condemn ‘conspiracy against Hamid Mir’ Sunday, May 30, 2010
By By our correspondent http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=242132
ISLAMABAD: Leaders of five different political parties have condemned a baseless propaganda campaign against senior journalist Hamid Mir and demanded of the government to expose the secret hands trying to silence the voice of free media through blackmailing tactics. According to a joint statement, Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly (NA) Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan of PML-N, chief whip of the PML-Q in the NA Riaz Pirzada, parliamentary leader of PPP (S) Aftab Sherpao, parliamentary leader of Fata group Munir Khan Orakzai and Senator Zahid Khan of ANP expressed solidarity with Hamid Mir and said that some secret hands had tried to involve Hamid Mir in the murder of a former ISI official on the basis of a mysterious audiotape. They said that Hamid Mir had always stood by democracy and he had received lot of threats from extremist groups in the past and no one can believe that he can have any unprofessional contacts with any militant group. Four leaders — Sherpao, Pirzada, Munir Orakzai and Zahid Khan have been attacked and threatened by the Taliban many times in the past. Police sources are of the view that the murder of Khalid Khawaja took place in North Waziristan on April 30 and Osama filed an application against Hamid Mir on May 25. Shalimar police have sent the application of Osama to the legal branch for advice. Information Minister Kaira has already condemned this ‘conspiracy against Hamid Mir’ many times.
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But Ansar Abbasi said that Hamid Mir is a loose talker – Ref: I am forced to believe that some elements in the intelligence used my media colleagues against me because I was not in control of any intelligence outfit. [Hamid Mir in Washington Times] –
Ansar Abbasi has almost indicted Hamid Mir in the case of Khalid Khawaja: Live with Talat – 20 May 2010 MAY 20, 2010 . in Live with Talat Naseem Zehra (Anchor), Zafar Abbas (Residen Editor Dawn), Kashif abbassi (Anchor) and Ansar abbasi (Analyst) in Today’s episode of Live with Talat with Talat Hussain – http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/20/live-with-talat-20-may-2010/ Ansar Abbasi and Talat Hussain’s statement telecast above which has almost indicted Hamid Mir, Ms. Nasim Zehra [Former Key Member of General Musharraf’s Think Tank] has also raised doubts on Hamid Mir’s confusing and constantly changing statements. Ansar Abbasi did the same in Jasmeen’s Program Ansar Abbasi says in Jasmin Manzoor Program that, he talked with Hamid Mir and Hamid said that its not his voice and then Ansar deny himself that Hamid also said that as per Hamid Mir “some of his old calls were mixed and rejoined!!! What a Tragedy. Is this what you call Colleague or Professional Courtesy. Tonight with Jasmeen – 23 May 2010 MAY 23, 2010 . NO COMMENTS in Tonight with Jasmeen Jasmeed discusses the issue of Hamid Mir’s audio tape in today’s episode. http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/23/tonight-with-jasmeen-23-may-2010/
Despite the knowledgebase regarding psy-ops, which various military training institutions are supposed to have, we are miserably poor in this field. Friday’s attacks in Lahore against the Ahmadis or the sectarian killings are some of the glaring examples of this. It is not a question of believing in a particular faith or not but about allowing people to live as citizens of this country and build the sense of common goal as a nation. The fact that we allow television anchors to condemn a certain community to death and yet get away with the murder means that we are as responsible for this killing as we were for the millions of Bengalis and Biharis who died in East Pakistan. If all of this is India’s plan then one must congratulate the enemy for penetrating our media so effectively.
The majority may disagree with their ideology but the brutal murder of the Ahmadi community or the operation launched against them in the media – including the internet – is an example of how a state is unwilling to protect its citizens. Lest we forget, the Nazi state had forced its Jewish community, which comprised of some of the most brilliant minds, to leave. Published in the Express Tribune, May 30th, 2010. Why don’t our psy-ops work? By Ayesha Siddiqa May 30, 2010 http://tribune.com.pk/story/17226/why-don%E2%80%99t-our-psy-ops-work/
Sindh Secular Forum totaly condemn the masscare of Ahmedies in Punjab and allover the country,in his statement SSF Chairman Dilshad Bhutto said that Govt failed to protect lives of innocent peoples.He said that Ahmedi a sect such as other sects which freely and openely praying,preeching but govt banned Ahmedi to openly pray and preech,this is discriminatory attititute with ahmedies,SSF believes in freedom of expression in religions and other fields of live. SSF issed press release last year that Local Taliban(PUNJABI TALBAN) will dangerious than Afghan Taliban or alqaida. According to reports meticulously planned attack, sectarian terrorists carried out a slaughter of Ahmadi worshippers who had gathered for Friday worship in two major Ahmadiyya mosques in Garhi Shahu and Model Town of Lahore Pakistan. Absence of any effective police presence enabled them to succeed in their gory operation, as planned. Ninety-four worshippers died and eighty were injured, according to the latest information.
The attacks were timed to be simultaneous. Two or three attackers targeted the Model Town mosque while a larger contingent attacked the bigger Garhi Shahu mosque. The terrorists killed or injured the few community guards and stormed the main assembly halls. When inside, the attackers used hand grenades and sprayed bullets indiscriminately on the worshippers. At Garhi Shahu they availed plenty of time to expend their ammunition. Many more casualties occurred when they blew themselves up.
The police arrived in due course and apparently took their time to ensure a safe and smooth intervention. As a result, little timely rescue and evacuation efforts were made which resulted in death of many injured due to bleeding. According to media reports two police officers were injured slightly at the initial stage at the Garhi Shahu site.
Two terrorists were apprehended by Ahmadi youth in Model Town mosque, stopping them from blowing themselves up. This contained the damage. They were handed over to the police.
According to press reports, three heads of suicide bombers were recovered from the Garhi Shahu mosque. Almost a month ago the Governor of Punjab made a public statement that the province is on knife-edge as extremists take hold, and he accused politicians of backing banned groups as minorities suffer violence and intimidation. The Federal Interior Minister also said that his ministry had warned the Punjab government of possible terrorist attacks.Sindh Secular Forum respect all religions,sectts and condemn total kind of terorism,SSF demand that govt should abolish all diuscriminatory laws from constitution.Every person who is Pakistani national have right to pray and preech according there own ethnic,race,color,caste,sectts,religion,No Extremist religious group can bound them to follow there extremist mindset.SSF sympathies with Ahmedies and SSF struggle for human liberities.
Dilshad Bhutto
Chairman Sindh Secular Forum
Pakistan
http://www.sindhsecularforum.weebly.com
The worrying aspect of Friday’s brutal massacre of Ahmedi’s was that apparently the Punjab government had been forewarned of possible terrorist attacks against the minorities. Interior Minister Rehman Malik said that two security alerts were sent to the provincial government on May 13 and May 26 warning them of such an attack. It is shocking to know that instead of doing anything about it, the Punjab government adopted a ‘devil may care’ attitude. We are already in a life and death struggle with terrorism, thus the Punjab government’s apathetic treatment of an intelligence report of such sensitivity is nothing short of criminal negligence. On top of that we have seen the provincial government’s top minister hobnobbing with the leaders of banned terrorist groups, case in point being Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah mollycoddling a Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) leader in Jhang for electoral purposes. Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif begging mercy from the Taliban to spare Punjab is another grim reminder that PML-N leaders are playing a very dangerous game.
Ahmadi massacre silence is dispiriting The virtual conspiracy of silence after the murder of 94 Ahmadis in Pakistan exposes the oppression suffered by the sect
Declan Walsh guardian.co.uk, Monday 7 June 2010 14.59 BST http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/jun/07/ahmadi-massacre-silence-pakistan?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments
Candles were lit by members of a civil society for victims of the attack on the Ahmadi sect in Lahore. Photograph: KM Chaudary/AP
I often find myself defending Pakistan against the unbidden prejudices of the outside world. No, Islam is not the cause of terrorism. Yes, the Taliban is a complex phenomenon. No, Imran Khan is not a major political figure.
This past week, though, I am silent. The massacre of 94 members of the minority Ahmadi community on May 28 has exposed something ugly at the heart of Pakistan – its laws, its rulers, its society.
It’s not the violence that disturbs most, gut-churning as it was. During Friday prayers two teams of attackers stormed Ahmadi mosques in the eastern city of Lahore. They fired Kalashnikovs from minarets, chucked grenades into the crowds, exploded their suicide vests.
As the massacre unfolded, a friend called – his father-in-law, a devout Ahmadi, was inside one of the besieged mosques. The family, glued to live television coverage, were sick with worry.
Two hours later, my friend’s relative emerged alive. But many of his friends – old men, including a retired general and former judge – were dead.
The killers were quickly identified as “Punjabi Taliban” – a loose collective of local extremists with ties to the tribal belt. This was unsurprising. More dispiriting, however, was the wider reaction.
Human rights groups reacted with pre-programmed outrage; otherwise there was a virtual conspiracy of silence. A dribble of protestors attended street protests against the attack in Lahore and Karachi; eleven people showed up in Islamabad.
The normally vociferous media were unusually reticent. Commentators expressed dismay at the violence, but few dared voice support for the Ahmadi community itself. Politicians turned yellow.
Few visited the bereaved; still today, the chief minister of Punjab, Shahbaz Sharif, has not visited the bullet-pocked mosques or offered compensation to the injured.
In the national parliament, three brave female MPs crossed party lines to propose a resolution condemning the attacks, in the face of massive indifference. The motion passed, just.
The reticence is rooted in law and history. Ahmadis believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, a 19th century Punjabi cleric, was the messiah sent by God – a notion that deeply offends orthodox Muslims for whom Muhammad, who lived in 7th-century Arabia, is the final prophet.
The problem is that the state has taken sides in this religious argument. Since the 1970s, civilian and military governments have passed laws enshrining the discrimination against Ahmadis, today thought to number about 4 million in Pakistan.
And so they live in the shadows of society. Under the law, Ahmadis may not call themselves Muslims and may not refer to their places of worship as “mosques”. Orthodox Muslims applying for a passport must sign a statement deriding Ahmad as an “imposter”.
Any Ahmadi who defies these edicts can be sentenced to death; in 2009, 37 were charged under the blasphemy laws and 57 under Ahmadi-specific laws.
This state-directed discrimination has caused prejudice to soak into the bones of even well-educated Pakistanis. It is acceptable to denigrate Ahmadis as “agents of foreign powers” such as the CIA and Raw, India’s intelligence service.
In 2008 a prominent preacher on Geo, the country’s largest channel, suggested that right-minded Muslims should kill Ahmadis. Within 48 hours two Ahmadis had been lynched. The television presenter has prospered. PAKISTAN: No action taken against Geo TV presenter who incited Muslims to murder members of Pakistan minority on air http://www.ahrchk.net/statements/mainfile.php/2008statements/1694/
Last year a banner appeared outside the high court in Lahore, declaring “Jews, Christians and Ahmadis are enemies of Islam”. Few complained.
The silence that followed the Ahmadi killings was broken last week by a tsunami of outrage at the Israeli commando raids on boats headed for Gaza. Commentators and politicians fulminated at the treatment of the Palestinians – a minority that suffers state-sanctioned, religiously driven discrimination. Nobody got the irony.
It makes one realise how small the constituency of true liberals is in Pakistan – not Pervez Musharraf-style liberals, who drink whisky and attend fashion shows, but people who believe the state should cherish all citizens equally. That, after all, was the publicly expressed desire of Pakistan’s founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, 63 years ago. Today it lies in tatters.
BBC Urdu – GEO TV – Ahmadiyya Muslim Community http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETl0LmlNn2s&feature=related
Slain ISI man’s son seeks case against TV anchor By Mudassir Raja Saturday, 03 Jul, 2010 http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/national/slain-isi-mans-son-seeks-case-against-tv-anchor-370
RAWALPINDI, July 2: The son of Khalid Khawaja, a former ISI official, has urged the Lahore High Court to order registration of a criminal case against an anchor of a private television channel for the murder of his father.
Justice Manzoor Ahmed Malik, of the LHC’s Rawalpindi bench, on Friday took up the petition of Usama Khalid and directed the law officer representing the federal government to appear in court on July 12.
The petitioner challenged the June 12 order of an additional district and sessions judge rejecting his plea to register the murder case.
Khalid Usama has made the SHO and a sub-inspector of Islamabad’s Shalimar police station respondents in the petition filed with the Lahore High Court, contending that the district and sessions judge dismissed his petition after the Shalimar police had told him they lacked jurisdiction as the murder of Khalid Khawaja was not committed in their area.
Mr Usama said the conspiracy to kill his father was hatched within the jurisdiction of Shalimar police and the travel of his father to the tribal area was allegedly arranged by journalist Hamid Mir.
The petitioner also attached a copy of an application submitted by him to Shalimar police for registration of a case against the journalist and Usman Punjabi for plotting the murder of Khalid Khawaja.
Usama Khalid said Hamid Mir had developed “ideological differences” with his father after the Lal Masjid operation of July 2007.
According to the petitioner, the television anchor and his father were on good terms since long, but Hamid Mir betrayed the trust by laying a trap for Khalid Khawaja. Usama alleged it was Mr Mir who persuaded the former ISI official to travel to the tribal area, where the journalist directed Usman Punjabi to kill Mr Khawaja.
An audio-tape, which emerged a few days after the murder of Khalid Khawaja, contained a purported conversation between Mr Mir and a Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan operative. Mr Mir has denied the veracity of the tape and said the voice on it was not his.
Doctor admits playing role in Lahore attacks By Abdul Manan Tuesday, 27 Jul 2010 http://tribune.com.pk/story/31327/doctor-admits-playing-role-in-lahore-attacks/?sms_ss=facebook
A detained doctor has confessed playing the role of facilitator in four suicide attacks in Lahore, sources said on Monday. He also admitted having facilitated the terrorists who attacked the hospital to free or kill a comrade who was injured in the May 28 attack in Model Town.
Sources revealed that Dr Ali Abdullah had been involved in two suicide attacks in Model Town and one in R A bazaar. Investigators are keeping mum about the fourth suicide attack because they fear that any such information would compromise their on-going investigation.
On July 10, sleuths from the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) detained Dr Abdullah in connection with his alleged links with the assailants who attacked Jinnah Hospital on May 31.
Dr Abdullah also revealed the names of professors who taught him medicine, religious studies and managed his training during his degree at Allama Iqbal Medical College (AIMC) in Lahore.
While pursuing his medical degree, Abdullah reportedly said he had received armed training in Azad Jammu and Kashmir. The source of his inspiration came in the form of lectures delivered by Professor Zafar Iqbal Chaudhry, allegedly a pioneer of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JD).
Data obtained from the medical college shows that Chaudhry, a professor of medicine, has been teaching at the institution since 2005. Professor Chaudhry is also the chief warden of the AIMC hostel for boys.
Between the years 2005 and 2010, Abdullah was the nazim of the Islami Jamiat Taleba (IJT). Sometime during this period he was given training at the JD’s armed wing, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), in Azad Jammu and Kashmir.
JD sources have told The Express Tribune that Chaudhry is the person who laid the foundations of JD, LeT, Markaz Dawat-ul-Irshad and is now working as the president of JD’s medical wing Muslim Medical Mission (MMM). They said that Chaudhry’s responsibility is to prepare the young from various universities and particularly from medical institutions for supporting militants.
Intelligence sources maintain that Abdullah, along with other students, was sent to attend JD’s medical camps under the MMM platform in various cities.
Sources further said that they had informed the authorities concerned to take action against Chaudhry.
AIMC principal Dr Javeed Akram told The Express Tribune that “Professor Chaudhry was brought from Lahore General Hospital to AIMC by his predecessor principal Professor Khurram Manzoor.”
He admitted the presence of JD’s wing in AIMC which was working under the MMM.
“Professor Chaudhry was the chief warden of the AIMC and has strong affiliations with the leader of JD’s chief Hafiz Saeed,” Akram added.
Chaudhry told The Express Tribune that “MMM was established and registered last year and its first annual conference was held at the Agricultural University Islamabad”. He insisted that the association is working legally having been registered by the Punjab government
According to him, some 2,000 doctors, including his pupils, were working as volunteers under the MMM.
Though he admitted that Abdullah was his pupil and often attended religious events at the AIMC, he denied having ever sent Abdullah for training to Azad Kashmir.
“Dr Abdullah organised different religious events in hostels after obtaining permission from me. As chief warden of the hostel, I have to regularly attend religious events,” Chaudhry said. As nazim of the IJT, he said, Dr Abdullah had no relations with the JD.
Dr Abdullah’s father Dr Sarfraz, who is the additional medical superintendent of the Services Hospital, told The Express Tribune that Capital City Police Officer Aslam Tareen, contacted him last year and assured him that his son was not in the custody of the Lahore Police. Sarfraz added that after Tareens’ statement he had decided to move to the Lahore High Court. Published in The Express Tribune, July 27th, 2010.
Jinnah doctor ‘missing’ By Our Staff Reporter Thursday, 15 Jul, 2010
Jinnah Hospital’s chief executive Dr Javed Akram told Dawn that Dr Abdullah had been Islami Jamiat Tulaba nazim at the Allama Iqbal Medical College. http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/local/lahore/jinnah-doctor-missing-570
That’s why name changed into Jamat ut Dawah, Saeed and his mentor “Zafar Iqbal” were basically from Jamat-e-Islami. Brother of Saeed was “successfully” living in USA till recently : Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, Sufi Muhammad, Lashkar-e-Tayiba/Jamatud Dawa, Mullahs & Calamity of Takfir (Apostasy) – 2 http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/04/hafiz-muhammad-saeed-sufi-muhammad.html
LeT growing to threaten globe; [AD]: ’جماعت الدعوۃ لشکر کا دوسرا نام‘
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وقتِ اشاعت: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 00:46 GMT 05:46 PST
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/regional/story/2009/02/090213_sc_jamat_un_zs.shtml
REFERENCE: JI splinter group leader, females held for links to suicide attackers Friday, December 18, 2009 By Umar Cheema http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=214063
Karman Khan says Jamat e Islami Terrorist Dr. Usman was mastermind of Attack on GHQ URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeUXYXiAkyM&feature=player_embedded
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