Mansoor Ijaz says Zardari had no knowledge of the memo
If the following version of events is true, then this is either a case of dishonest representation or dishonest advice by Ambassador Husain Haqqani. It was a shocking error of judgement to engage with and get entrapped by someone as unscrupulous as Mansoor Ijaz. If Mr. Haqqani did not seek elected government’s prior approval for such a risky endeavour, then he violated his job description, and in doing so put the nascent democracy at unnecessary perils. The memogate scandal is a vivid evidence of poor conception and poor enactment of a misadventure by Mr. Haqqani. In such case, the PPP and the elected government must expressly dissociate themselves from Mr. Haqqani’s actions. Mr. Haqqani too must consider gracefully resigning his post instead of creating further embarrassment for the PPP and the elected government. Overall, the memogate scandal reminds us that the delicate civil-military imbalance in Pakistan cannot be improved via risky short-cuts (such as the alleged memo), but it is the successful completion of various cycles of democracy that can inject some balance between elected government and military establishment. Such alleged misadventures also provide the right wing and hyper-nationalist Ghairat Brigade with ammunition to tarnish and defame the democratic government.
US businessman of Pakistani origin Mansoor Ijaz on Sunday said that Director General Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) Shuja Pasha had forensically tested the evidence connected to the controversial memo, and deemed it legitimate on his London visit. Speaking exclusively in Express News’ show Baat-se-Baat, Ijaz claimed to have met General Pasha in London and provided him the evidence regarding the secret controversial memo by Haqqani, including phone (BlackBerry messenger) records. He said it was irrefutable evidence since it was in his phone and forensically tested by General Pasha.
Ijaz also ruled out reports that there was some understanding between President Asif Ali Zardari and Ambassador Husain Haqqani regarding the memo, saying the President had no knowledge of any such document. He claimed that Zardari might have spoken to Haqqani after the May raid about the pressure on him, hence asking the latter to help him out in this regard, leaving the mechanics on how Haqqani went about it to the US ambassador.
Ijaz hit out at Haqqani on challenging the authenticity of the memo and ruled out any missing links in the memo-authenticity chain. He said that he was an ‘ultra wealthy’ individual who handles his own investments and would sue anyone for slandering against him using the best of lawyers from London, New York and Switzerland.
Mansoor Ijaz must be sitting on top of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs now
he sounds cheap…but what is important is what he has said about AZ.
Contradicting Haqqani, interior minister Malik confirmed yesterday that Haqqani and Ijaz did exchange text messages discussing the Mullen memo and its fallout. “This is communication through SMS by two individuals,” he is quoted by the wire service AFP as saying. “One is an American national and the second is our ambassador.”
http://newsweekpakistan.com/scope/591
Hussain Haqqani, please leave!
According to Haqqani Network (urban elites) on Twitter, Haqqani is equal to democracy. If he goes, everything will fall apart.
All of them (10 to 15 in total) must get out of their drawing rooms and smell coffee.
DrAwab Awab Alvi
Quote of the day #MansoorIjaz says on NDTV “Zardari does NOT have the mental capacity to be able to dream something like this up” ROTFL
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/haqqani-reached-out-to-me-lying-about-memo-now-mansoor-ijaz/216535
DrAwab Awab Alvi
OUCH #MansoorIjaz nails @husainhaqqani on #Memogate NDTV Talk. both HH & A2ZFail must be tried of treason if proven, I think they GUILTY
its unfortunate that urdu newspapers r not citing this statement by MI. i agree, instead of supporting ppp or the president , on twitter urban elites have created HH team to support haqqani
صدر زرداری کو میمو سے متعلق پتہ نہ تھا،منصور اعجاز ایک دعوے سے دستبردار
Date : 11/21/2011
کراچی… پاکستانی نژاد امریکی تاجر منصور اعجاز اپنے ایک دعوے سے دستبردار ہوگئے ہیں اور ان کا کہنا ہے کہ صدر زرداری کو میمو سے متعلق کوئی علم نہیں تھا۔ امریکی فوجی سربراہ ایڈمرل مائیک مولن کو لکھے گئے متنازع میمو کے مرکزی کردار منصور اعجاز نے اس امکان کو مسترد کردیا ہے کہ صدر آصف علی زرداری اور امریکا میں پاکستانی سفیر حسین حقانی کے مابین میمو کے معاملے پر کوئی مفاہمت بھی تھی۔ ان کا کہنا ہے کہ ہوسکتا ہے کہ مئی کے مہینے میں ہونے والی کارروائی کے بعد صدر زرداری نے اپنے اوپر پڑنے والے دباوٴ کا حسین حقانی سے تذکرہ کیا ہو۔۔ انہوں نے زوردیتے ہوئے کہا کہ میمو کے معاملے میں کوئی کڑی غائب نہیں ہے۔۔
http://search.jang.com.pk/update_details.asp?nid=130933
Ijaz claimed that President Zardari might have spoken to Haqqani after the Abbottabad raid about the pressure on him, and asked the latter to help him out in this regard, but would have left the mechanics to the ambassador.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/295132/memogate-adamant-ambassador-set-to-face-troika/
Chiltan salma jafar
The embattled ambassador may take a breather but not for very long. #Memogate HH set to face troika tribune.com.pk/story/295132/m… via @etribune
Chiltan salma jafar
A war going on in #Balochistan. Is anyone concerned??…. Four security personnel killed in Loralai tribune.com.pk/story/295210/f… via @etribune
Chiltan salma jafar
@ijazkhan in this case ofcourse that individual is HH who is being equated with democracy…a bewildering premise.
10 hours ago
Chiltan salma jafar
@ijazkhan am afraid don’t agree – we hav 2 defend democracy not wrongs of individuals & then equate the individual to democracy
10 hours ago
Chiltan salma jafar
Haqqani Must Resign: A PPP Jiyala’s view on the memogate shar.es/ogDcU
Chiltan salma jafar
@AbdulNishapuri …mainstream voices dissappointingly – a cock and bull story
JunaidQaiser Junaid Qaiser
Agree HH is not indispensable: Husain Haqqani or No Husain Haqqani, #PPP will survive: criticalppp.com/archives/63266
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Express Tribune must not distort facts about Husain Haqqani – by Laibaah shar.es/opzdO #memogate #husainhaqqani #Pakistan
AfghanPolicy AfghanPolicy
It’s a huge loss for #Pakistan, @HusainHaqqani masterfully & with dignity had represented “State Sponsored #Terrorism”
Nadeem_Gehla Ahmad Nadeem Gehla
Turncoat Jamatia’s which PPP borrowed from other parties has cause more damage than benefit to party, from ZAB killing to Haqqani memo!
Nadeem_Gehla Ahmad Nadeem Gehla
Forensic is not possible but enough time to chalk out a plan with HH and MI against democratic govt @mazdaki @beenasarwar
Nadeem_Gehla Ahmad Nadeem Gehla
Friendly reminder: Haqqani has created dubious letters / memos in the past, 1990 Benazir Bhutto’s letter to Galbraith criticalppp.com/archives/4491
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Haqqani to sue Mansoor Ijaz over memogate: Farahnaz Ispahani
http://www.thenewstribe.com/2011/11/21/haqqani-to-sue-mansoor-ijaz-over-memogate-farahnaz-ispahani/#.TsoDxsNAb8B
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Did army force #husainhaqqani to sue #mansoorijaz to push HH further in the quagmire? Is more embarrassment waiting for PPP? #memogate
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Mansoor Ijaz is a commercial intermediary. He will sell his services to anyone who pays him more. It was foolish to engage MI. #memogate
Laibaah1 Laibaah
There is an important difference in FACING legal action and TAKING legal action: tribune.com.pk/story/295222/m… #memogate
http://tribune.com.pk/story/295222/memogate-we-are-ready-to-face-legal-action-says-farahnaz-ispahani/
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Nadeem_Gehla Ahmad Nadeem Gehla
What about retards Jiala’s and LUBP supporting HH, rather than looking in to broader picture and estb plans against PPP @Laibaah1
Laibaah1 Laibaah
@Nadeem_Gehla By publishing pro-HH articles, LUBP have proven they are no better than SamadK and Beena Sarwar.
Chiltan salma jafar
@Laibaah1 I am also taken aback by the recent post…quite a U turn within hours!!! wonder why? @Nadeem_Gehla
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Suprah_ علی احسن
@Laibaah1 many people here think the same way about HH. I don’t. I feel for HH to trust a known snake like Mansoor Ejaz was pure stupidity
Laibaah1 Laibaah
@Suprah_ Did you read his fairy tale article on an imaginary palace coup in Pakistan? For him, HH = democracy. If HH is gone, all is gone!
Suprah_ علی احسن
@Laibaah1 he reminds me of Christopher Hitchens and his profiteering and cheer leading for the Bush regime esp. for the bogus Iraq war
Laibaah1 Laibaah
@Suprah_ No, he is not. Further, he belongs to “money is my religion” family.
Suprah_ علی احسن
@Laibaah1 lol!! but isn’t Tarek Fatah himself from a Shia family?
Laibaah1 Laibaah
TarekFatah (notorious for his Shia-phobia) hopes HH lobby will buy his books. No one reads your crap, dude! #memogate pakistanblogzine.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/rac…
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Laibaah1 Laibaah
A similar unity between urban fake liberals and right wingers was witnessed during the ISI-backed Lawyers Movement.
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Urban fake liberals and right-wingers were equally well-coordinated in blaming and cursing Prez Zardari after Taseer’s murder. #memogate
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Abdul Qadir Hasan & Tarek Fatah, Cyril Almeida & Dr. Taqi are united in support of Husain Haqqani. khuda ki qudrat hai #memogate
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Do you know who is vouching for HusainHaqqani’s patriotism? Abdul Qadir Hasan of JI/ISI: express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwi… #memogate
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Individuals come and go. No single individual is equal to democracy. Will urban fake liberal (PTI lovers, army worshippers) leave PPP alone?
Laibaah1 Laibaah
If known ISI-stooges Abdul Qadir Hasan, TammayHaq, Cyril Almeida, Nasim Zehra and SamadK are pro-HH, it makes it very obvious. #memogate
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Urban elites’ fake support for HusainHaqqani is aimed at creating a major rift between civilian government & Pakistan army.
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Pakistan urban elites (fake liberals) want to make another Taseer out of Husain Haqqani only to blame President Zardari and PPP. #memogate
Laibaah1 Laibaah
Dear tweeps, can anyone kindly ask @etribune to respond to my question? criticalppp.com/archives/63141
Civil-military imbalance
Dawn Editorial
THERE may be fireworks in parliament today over `memogate`, but what ought to be the main issue – the civil-military imbalance — will probably get only passing mention. Unhappily, an age-old lesson is being reinforced once again: unless the civilians get their act together and work towards strengthening democratic institutions, civilian control of the military is likely to remain a pipe-dream. Set aside the speculation surrounding the memo that Ijaz Mansoor delivered to then-chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff Mike Mullen — only a thorough and transparent high-powered public inquiry will come close to ascertaining the facts, but that is unlikely to happen — and focus on what the political leadership in a country with reasonably strong democratic roots would have done post-May 2.
Parliament would have been activated immediately, defence committees would inquire into why US troops were able to operate unhindered on Pakistani soil for nearly two hours, intelligence committees would inquire into how and why Osama bin Laden was able to find sanctuary in Abbotabad and foreign relations committees would have examined the impact of the May 2 raid on Pakistan`s international standing, making concrete recommendations to limit the damage. That no such thing happened here is of course not the fault of the present government alone. In Pakistan, parliament has never been strong and sometimes hasn`t even existed at all. But by surrendering the national-security and foreign-policy domains to the military establishment, the present government sowed fresh seeds of trouble. Bartering critical policy areas away for political survival was akin to shaking hands with the devil: short-term gains were always going to turn into long-term nightmares.
Indeed, if Ijaz Mansoor`s claims are true — and given the cast of characters allegedly involved on the Pakistani side, anything is possible — the civilian leadership would be exposed as very pitiful indeed. The ultimate irony: if the allegations are true, then because of the poor choices the government has made in its dealings with the military it had already ensured that there was no chance of its proposals being implemented. Sacking military principals and installing a new national security team? Perhaps if the government had worked to strengthen democratic institutions, some of the memo proposals would not have looked so utterly divorced from reality. Long after the noise subsides in parliament and heads roll or not, Pakistan will still be left with a daunting reality: the civilians aren`t getting any closer at all to truly being in charge.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/11/21/civil-military-imbalance.html
What is wrong in hanging Zardari and once again telling Sindhi’s that they should not get out of their skin. Pakistan is Punjab and Haqani is a Punjabi. He will be delighted for ‘role playing’ to teach a lesson to them, once in hands of ISI. He loves Pak Army, his mother is burred in military graveyard, not in Garhi Khud Bakhsh.
ایک افغانی جنگجو جلال الدین حقانی کئی سالوں سے پاکستان کے ایک حصے پر قبضہ کرکے بیٹھا ہے اپنی حکومت اور عدالت لگا کر ، غیرت بریگیڈ کے کسی لیڈر اور صحافی میں ہمت نہیں کہ وہ وہاں جا بھی سکے ، اس سے ہماری خودمختاری میں کوئی فرق نہیں آتا ہے بلکہ وہ تو پاکستان کا اثاثہ بن گیا ہے . آئی ایس آئی والے بھی کیا زبرست قوم کی برین واشنگ کرتے ہیں ..سبحان الله