Orya Maqbool Jan and his Taliban apologist perspective on democracy – by Shoaib Adil
Mr Shoaib Adil belongs to the school of progressive writers. He is Editor in Chief of the “Nia Zamana”, a liberal pro-democracy journal. In his current article (originally published in the ‘Daily Aajkal’), he criticizes Orya Maqbool Jan, a right wing columnist of Jamaat-e-Islami, for his anti-democratic and anti-West approach. Orya Maqbool Jan, a leading Taliban apologist and a member of Taliban Union of Journalists, continues to claim that the Taliban government in Afghanistan was the most just, honest and social welfare oriented government the world has ever seen since the time of the four caliphs. He also amazingly blames America, West and democracy for all evils in Pakistan. He has written a serial of columns in support of Taliban, in which he praised Mullah Umar and his ‘Talibanic’ style of governance. He also suggested to the present civilian elected government to follow Taliban.
Here is Mr Adil’s article in the daily Aaj Kal:
very well written.
Golden Thumbs Up shoaib adil sb…..In this one case study of jihadi psudo-intellectual ”jan sb” there lies The prevailing jihadi-extremist school of thoughts.. the maqbool jan character is the one display behind the scene…many ‘jan’ rembos took ONLY ‘soward’ inspiration from Khilafat e rashda and transformed it into the ‘gun’ hold by Mulla umar,rembo rembo jan rembo..the KAFIR KILLER:):)..The maqbool jan,jan rembo is actually a Narcissist-the ill by will(psyche)…
Shoaib sb Allah karey zor e qalam aur ho ziada..
بھائیوں یہ جو سوات میں لوگ تھے وہ اصل میں را کے اجنٹ تھے ،وہ ہندو تھے اور بقول قاضی حسین کے ان کے ختنے بھی نہیں ہوئے تھے ،پر مزاکرات ہی حل تھا ،اور نظام عادل بھی پر جب آپریشن ہوا تو ان کا کسی نے ساتھ بھی نہیں دیا ،یہ طالبانی میڈیا والے کتنے بے وفا لوگ ہیں ،اب جماعت اسلامی کو چاہیے کہ صوفی محمد اور مولوی عمر کی رہی کے لئے لونگ مارچ کرے اور اپنے امیر بیت الله محسود کی “شہادت ” پر ایک تعزیتی جلسہ تو کر لے کم سے کم
اصل میں ہمارے یہاں سرے ادارے تباہ ہو گئے ان جمتیئوں نے کچھ لوگوں کی تربیت کی ہے ،انہیں اچھی اردو میں بولنا سکھایا ہے اور سید قطب کا وائرس ان کے ذہنوں میں ڈالا ہے ،یہی لوگ میڈیا پر اپنے اچھا بولنے کی وجہ سے آگئے اور پورے پاکستان کو جماعتی بنا رہے ہیں
well done.Harun rashid also needs ur attention sir.
I have read all the story, you both, Orya Maqbool Jan & Shohaib Adil, are extremists—- each in the love of his own party and opposition of the other one. Being a good and wise Muslims and Pakistani, you must fairly point out to Pakistanis both the good and bad points of these parties so that Pakistan can get out of the present crisis.
This jihadi beaurocrat was also involved in multi billion IMAX theater fraud.
WASHINGTON DC, July 19, 2005 | ISSN: 1684-2057 | http://www.satribune.com
http://antisystemic.org/satribune/www.satribune.com/archives/200507/P1_durr.htm
A Madrassa near Peshawar, Capital of NWFP
Top MMA Leader Tries to Convince Pentagon, NSC on Hardline Islamic Law
Special SAT Report
WASHINGTON, July 19: As the guest of a Christian organization which calls itself “a Think Tank with Legs”, the Chief Minister of Pakistan’s North-western Province, NWFP, Akram Khan Durrani, has used the legs of the think tank to reach the Pentagon and Washington’s thinking elite.
And the Opposition religious coalition, Muttahida Majlis Amal (MMA), leader has been preaching the US decision-makers a word or two about the controversial Hasba Act, the recently passed law which, critics say, means Talibanization of Pakistan. It is being introduced by the Provincial Government to appeal to its conservative constituency in the backward province before the Local Government elections later this month.
It is the Law against which the Federal Government of General Pervez Musharraf has petitioned the Supreme Court of Pakistan claiming it was against the Constitution and should be declared null and void. The MMA says it will contest forcibly in the SC.
“Yes I visited the Pentagon and gave them a copy of the Hasba Act,” Durrani (above) told the South Asia Tribune on Saturday night, explaining that it was not at all odd that he was trying to convince Washington that the Act was not meant to Talibanize the Pakistani society.
Durrani has been in Washington from July 9-19 as guest of Institute for Global Engagement (IGE) which, according to its web site, was “created to develop sustainable environments for religious freedom worldwide, and to inspire and equip emerging leaders with faith-based methodologies of engagement.”
Founded by Robert A. Seiple, the first-ever US Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom, “IGE uniquely combines strategic analysis with an operational component that seeks solutions to complex political and religious problems in difficult parts of the world.”
“In this age of widespread religious conflict, pluralism, and change, finding such solutions requires a deep understanding of geopolitical realities as well as an approach that is “shrewd as snakes and innocent as doves,” the web site of IGE says.
To meet this challenge, IGE partners with governments, religious organizations, scholars, practitioners, and international advocacy groups to take on innovative projects that strike at the root of religious intolerance and educate emerging leaders to take religion seriously in their consideration of international affairs.
“We’re a “think tank with legs,” or if you’re feeling less poetic, a “think-and-do-tank.” What does that mean? We recognize that thinking is simply our initial step. We’re also committed to praying and acting on the basis of our thought and research,” the IGE web site explains.
Chief Minister Durrani has been in Washington with his three sons, one Principal Officer and an Interpreter, all hosted by IGE for 11 days in the US capital and New York. “I had a wonderful trip, my children also saw America and we had good meetings with National Security Council and Pentagon officials. I gave every one a copy of the Hasba Act,” Durrani told the South Asia Tribune.
The religious leader from the radically Islamized province has been trying in all his meetings to convince the Americans that his party was not as radical as perceived and they could do business with the Americans on the same terms as any one else.
But as a slip of his tongue in one of the TV interviews, Durrani claimed that after he explained the provisions of the Hasba Act to Pentagon officials, they almost approved it and gave a green light to go ahead. But he quickly stopped making the remark to other media channels and when he was specifically asked by South Asia Tribune whether he was able to convince the Pentagon, he was non-committal and said it was for Pentagon to give their opinion.
He was asked whether the Hasba Act, now in the Supreme Court of Pakistan after it was challenged by the Federal Government as violative of the Constitution, would still be pursued if the Court ruled against the MMA, and whether MMA would accept the Court decision, Durrani was a little uncomfortable answering the question saying “Let us think positively as our legal brains have studied the Act in detail and they can successfully argue that it does not come into conflict with the Constitution.”
Durrani was, however, almost sure after his round of meetings with think tanks and NSC/Pentagon officials in Washington that his Government in NWFP would not be dismissed by General Musharraf because of the Hasba Act.
“I did say that we will wreak havoc if Governor’s Rule was imposed, but I am sure that stage would never be reached as we have worked with the Center on many sensitive issues in the past and reached a mutually acceptable solution,” he said.
But Durrani could not convincingly respond to the question that by bringing up the Hasba issue at this stage, the Opposition MMA had actually played into the hands of the Musharraf Government and diverted the focus of national politics from the up-coming unity talks and a possible alliance between the MMA, PPP and PML-N on the more basic issue of getting rid of a military dictator.
“We are talking to the Opposition parties for a joint struggle at the Federal level but provinces can legislate and opposition to local laws does not mean we would stop talking to each other at all levels,” he said.
Yet the fact is that MMA has hijacked the national agenda by introducing and passing the Hasba Act in a hurry which prompted other major parties including PPP to sharply attack the MMA and condemn it. No one would have been happier than General Musharraf with this political move.
And MMA itself is almost in a win-win situation because if the Hasba Act is enforced, they will have a new Islamic Police at their command which can ultimately be used politically against the Center and other political opponents.
On the other hand, if the Act is not allowed by the Supreme Court or if the NWFP Assembly is dismissed, MMA would emerge as “martyrs of Islam” and would be able to recruit more supporters for its hardline policies.
Partymen stunned: ‘Fazl in land scam’ By Our Staff Reporter Monday, 03 Nov, 2008 http://news.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/national/partymen+stunned+fazl+in+land+scam
LAHORE, Nov 2: The JUI-F leaders and activists are stunned at the land scam reported against their chief, Maulana Fazlur Rehman, as elders of other politico-religious parties are avoiding to directly comment on it. The opposition leader in the previous National Assembly, Maulana Fazl allegedly got allotted hundreds of kanals of army land in Dera Ismail Khan, NWFP, to play the role of a friendly opposition. The land was reportedly transferred to the name of his personal assistant and brother Lutfur Rehman’s secretary in January 2005. Former president Pervez Musharraf had promised to take off his uniform by Dec 31, 2004 in return of the help by the six-party MMA, of which the Maulana was the secretary general, in indemnifying the army ruler’s action of staging a coup against the PML-N’s elected government in 1999. When contacted, former JUI-F secretary-general Hafiz Husain Ahmad instead of commenting on the scandal said he was seeing intensifying of a tussle between party’s Balochistan leaders — Maulana Muhammad Khan Sherani and MNA Rehmatullah Kakar. Central vice-president Syed Amir Husain Gilani said: “Allah knows better about the veracity of the scandal”. Information Secretary Maulana Amjad Khan sees it as a malicious campaign to disrepute the JUI-F leader for presenting Taliban’s point of view in parliament about the ongoing war on terror. The naib amir of Jamaat-i-Islami, the second largest component of the MMA, Liaquat Baloch says his party is ignorant of the issue, though it has been part of the alliance’s five-year rule in the NWFP. He suggests that as the JUI-F still has representation in parliament and provincial assemblies, its MPs should bring the issue to their respective houses for a clarification and proving the allegation false. He also proposes a foolproof mechanism at the national level for investigating such scandals and bringing to fore the facts. According to him, the Awami National Party (ANP), which is currently ruling the NWFP, also owes the responsibility to probe the issue and ‘misappropriation’ of the province’s lands. ‘Defunct’ MMA’s vice-president Senator Sajid Mir terms the allegation unfortunate. “If the allegation is true then it is deplorable.” Asked if the allegation would be considered while establishing any alliance of the religious parties, he said the issue would be discussed when the stakeholders (of the proposed alliance) would sit together in the founding session.
Fazl keeps regular contact with US embassy, says cable By Ansar Abbasi Tuesday, December 07, 2010
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=2507&Cat=13
ISLAMABAD: Against his public perception of being an anti-American, Maulana Fazlur Rehman is reflected in a cable released by WikiLeaks as a frequent and cooperative American interlocutor, who professes his support for cooperation with the United States. The JUI-F leader has been described in the secret US cable as “more politician than mulla”, and “a frequent and cooperative interlocutor” with the post (US Embassy Islamabad). The Maulana is also shown as professing his “support for cooperation with the United States.” US embassy’s CDA Peter Bodde wrote in his April 3, 2008 cable, released by WikiLeaks, that Rehman, more politician than mulla, has been a prominent and legitimate figure in Pakistani politics since the 1980s. He “has publicly denounced terrorist attacks, but prefers to use negotiations rather than military force against militants. Although he is known to have contacts with Taliban and their sympathisers, he has negotiated with religious militants on the government’s behalf, garnering him criticism from the more hard-line religious sectors.”
The primary purpose of the message was to request the FBI to recall information about Fazlur Rehman, which indicated that an individual “Fasilur Rehman” believed to be associated with Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) is behind the March 2008 bombing in Islamabad. The cable said that the information suggests that Fasilur Rehman refers to political party leader Fazlur Rehman of the JUI-F. The embassy “requests that FBI recall this information from all hardcopy and database records due to discrepancies and errors in the report.” It noted that prominent Pakistan politician Fazlur Rehman is not associated with the JI, but instead leads his own political party, the JUI-F. From 2002-2007, the two parties allied with other religious parties in the coalition Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA). However, the JUI-F and JI retained separate leadership structures as well as separate political objectives and methods, it said.
The cable said that Fazlur Rehman’s JUI-F is a conservative Deobandi religious party that has recently joined the new Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) led government. The JI is a religious party that appeals to a narrow sector of the educated, conservative urban middle class. JI, which has a vibrant student wing, began as a movement for social change based on Sharia. “The JI party policy does not support violence as a means to achieve their political agenda, however, the party quietly has supported Jihad in Afghanistan and Kashmir by providing recruits from their student corps. The party does not support violence perpetuated within Pakistan, such as the recent attack on the restaurant in Islamabad. In addition, Fasilur Rehman and Fazlur Rehman are extremely common Pakistani names, making it impossible to accurately identify the individual with the prominent JUI-F politician.” In an earlier cable, the WikiLeaks showed the Maulana approaching the then US Ambassador Anne Patterson to become the Prime Minister. It was revealed that the leader of the country’s most fiercely pro-Taliban religious party, hosted a jovial dinner for Patterson at which the Maulana sought her backing to become prime minister and expressed a desire to visit America. Maulana-like Maulana’s lieutenant Abdul Ghafoor Haideri acknowledged that “All important parties in Pakistan had to get the approval of the US (to get power).”
Ansar Abbasi [Jang Group] Exposes Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4hPJsAaqHI
it is not surprise for me and majority of Pakistani people. a minority which always talks much about human right and freedom of speech for themselves but they dont allow the majority to have this right.
This minority extreemist have gradually dragged peaceful majority people to wall and no in chain reaction giving birth to extreemists of their kind . oh you call them Taliban. Here we have disagreement . I believe aperson studying in madrassa or school is Talib when he leave madrassa or school he lose this title> So I dont call them Taliban they are the extreemist . Among 90% majority faith you cant find a few % terrorists but at your side 99% are terrorists? cherity begins from home. so start sweeping your own door first. It is open secret who gets job, and contracts on secterian basis. People like them are responsible for extreemism.
We have nifaz fiqah jafferia but have you heard of nifaz fiqah hanifia? After 1973 protest all of sudden chapters of caliphs and story of Karballa got omitted from school course . ok if you consider that controvercial then why state television is handed over to a minority. do you consder. do you people consider majority christian or hindo ? tell me whether majority dont have have respect for prophet and his family ? you haveright to mourn anywhere you like but why you do it in front of my door and keep a policeman over my roof. why you dont understand that majority have nothing to do with happening of karballa.
Half a year the road get closed . Police and goverment machinery is badly used to provide you people security . you call a shia “momen bhai ” what it mean other are not momen? When my small children see you people using knives to hurt your bodies you people stay out of my home with blood around you . Are you not torturing my family . Not for only ten days but you have prolonged it for more than 100 daysa years and you call it it is your right.
In which madrassa Fazal Muhammad studied? which madrassa Naik Muhammad, bait ullah mehsud and Mangal Bagh studied? if they dont have studied at madrassas then why you people call them Taliban. The only reason behind is your evil wishes . You claimand say terriorists have no religin but when it comes to terrorist groups working in Pakistan . you use this terminology to blame religious schools and expect. No one can support terrorism but you people are using it for your secterian cause but still expect majority stand with you.
Zalaan urf Zalim Sahib. Kabhi kabhi bardasht kar lia karain. Koi ghalti say media main Aa jata hai warna media per to aap kay momin bhaiyun ka mukamal haq aur qabza hai.Jabhi to Doctor Zikar Naik ko bhi ghuthay laga diya hai. Tumharay mazhab main yeh tarika naya nahee hai .jo sach bolay us kay peechay parr jao aur rula pai rakho jab tak jhoot ki murghi anday say chochay na nikal day
LOLZ at shoaib adil
What kind of article this was and what you r trying to prove?
you want to say America is wining .. and You us to believe that Americans are IDEAL HUKAMRAAN?
You want us to say that
come on america come on Kill afganies we are with you
Aqal ko hath mareen koi sir paair wali baat kareeen
swat is save with the opertion of pakistan army,not by america, bastard
Orya Maqbool is excellent columnist. there is no sense in your column Mr. Adil The hatemonger ………….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDJksi1b20M&list=UU1vYswxzRk4tM0Hl1UXm04g&index=5&feature=plcp
shoaib adil like misguided anti islam forces are bound to lose and get humiliated soon inshalah.mujahideen will be victorious