Are Pakistani Taliban CIA agents? An analysis of Hamid Mir’s column – by Zalaan
In this column in daily Jang today, Hamid Mir claims that the TTP (Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan) is supported and directed by the USA to conduct suicide attacks at various targets in Pakistan.
In other words, Hamid Mir is now suggesting that the Pakistani Taliban are, for all practical purposes, agents of the CIA, Blackwater, Xe and other American agencies. Here is an apt analysis of Hamid Mir’s latest somersault by Zalaan, a valued member of the LUBP team:
Zalaan’s Candid Analaysis
اب حامد میر که رہا ہے کہ طالبان امریکی اجنٹ ہیں ، یہی حامد میر ہے جس کے پنجابی طالب عثمان پجابی سے تعلقات کوئی چھپی بات نہیں ،اگر یہ طالبان امریکی اجنٹ ہیں تو یہ طالب صحافی حامد میر کیوں ان سے مزاکرات کے لئے زور ڈالتا تھا ؟ کیوں آپریشن کی مخالفت کرتا تھا ؟ کیوں یہ کہتا تھا کے اچھے طالبان اور ہیں اور برے اور ؟ کیا سوات کے طالبان بھی امریکی اجنٹ تھے جنھیں ساری مذہبی جماعتوں نے سپورٹ کیا ؟
تو کیا سرے دیوبند علما جو طالبان کو اپنا ساتھی سمجھتے ہیں امریکی اجنٹ ہیں ؟ .اگر سب امریکی اجنٹ ہیں تو پھر ان سے لڑنے میں کترانا کیسا ؟
اصل میں طالبان کو بہت نقصان ہو رہا ہے اور طالبان صحافی شدید غم کی حالت میں ان کے بچاؤ کی ہر ممکن کوشش کر رہے ہیں اور کرتے رہے ہیں .جب طالبان تھوڑی طاقت دکھاتے ہیں تو یہ ان کے ساتھ ہو جاتے ہیں اور جب لوگوں میں ان کے لیہ نفرت ہوتی ہے تو یہ ان کو امریکی اجنٹ که دیتے ہیں تاکہ طالبان پر دباؤ کم ہو جائے اور لوگ حکومت پر دباؤ ڈالیں
حامد میر کے نزدیک اب بیت الله محسود امریکی اجنٹ ہو گیا جس کو ملا عمر نے پاکستان میں اپنا نائب بنایا تھا تو کیا ملا عمر اجنٹ نہیں ؟ وہ کیسے “اچھا طالبان ” ہے ؟ پاکستان میں جو ہزاروں قتل ہوئے ان سب کا تعلق طالبان ہی سے ہے پر جب ان کی موت اتی ہے تو یہ صحافی طالبان ان کو امریکی اجنٹ بنادیتے ہیں اور جب انہیں کوئی کامیابی ہوتی ہے تو مجاہد بنا دیتے ہیں
الله کرے یہ امیر قاتلین ملا عمر اور اسامہ جلد ہی ہلاک ہوں کیوں کہ آج یہ ان کے مجھاہد ہیں پر مرنے کہ بعد امریکی اجنٹ بنیں گے اور ان کی منافقت اور کمینے پن کی صحافت چلتی رہے گی
ویسے کمینہ پن اور مکاری دل کی ہوتی ہے پر انسان اگر بہت کی مکار ،ذلیل اور کمینہ ہو تو یہ اعمال اس کی شکل پر بھی آجاتے ہیں .حامد میر ایسی ہی ایک مثال ہے
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Here is a copy of the column Zalaan is referring to in the above post:
سیاسی طاقت کا نیا انجکشن…قلم کمان …حامد میر
امریکی صحافی باب وڈورڈ نے صدر آصف علی زرداری پر ایک بہت بڑا احسان کر دیا ہے۔ باب وڈورڈ نے اپنی کتاب ”اوبامہ کی جنگیں“ میں لکھا ہے کہ آصف علی زرداری کے خیال میں امریکہ پاکستانی طالبان کے ذریعے پاکستان کے اندر خودکش حملے کروا رہا ہے۔
امریکی صحافی نے اپنی کتاب میں لکھا ہے کہ آصف علی زرداری کو یہ اطلاع حامد کرزئی نے دی اور پھر زرداری نے یہ اطلاع اوبامہ کے دوست زلمے خلیل زاد کو دی۔ زلمے نے حیرانگی کے ساتھ زرداری سے پوچھا کہ بھلا پاکستان میں خودکش حملے کروا کر امریکہ کو کیا فائدہ ہو سکتا ہے؟ زرداری نے جواب میں کہا کہ امریکہ پاکستان میں عدم استحکام پھیلا کر ہمارے ایٹمی ہتھیاروں پر قبضہ کرنا چاہتا ہے۔ باب وڈورڈ نے اپنی نئی کتاب میں امریکہ پر آصف علی زرداری کے الزام کو ایک سازشی نظریہ قرار دے کر مسترد کر دیا لیکن ساتھ ہی ساتھ پاکستانی قارئین کو یہ خبر دی ہے کہ جس آصف علی زرداری کو امریکہ کا زرخرید غلام سمجھا جاتا ہے وہ امریکیوں کے سامنے بیٹھ کر ان پر پاکستان میں خودکش حملوں میں ملوث ہونے کا الزام لگاتا ہے۔
یہ الزام امریکیوں کے نزدیک تو محض ایک مذاق ہے لیکن عام پاکستانیوں کی ایک بڑی اکثریت یہی سمجھتی ہے کہ پاکستان کے اندر ہونے والے خودکش حملوں میں امریکی سی آئی اے اور بلیک واٹر کے ایجنٹ ملوث ہیں۔
کچھ عرصہ پہلے جب پاکستانی میڈیا میں بلیک واٹر کی سرگرمیوں کے بارے میں خبریں آنا شروع ہوئیں تو پاکستان میں امریکہ کی متنازع ترین سفیر این ڈبلیو پیٹرسن نے ان رپورٹوں کو جھوٹ اور لغو قرار دے کر مسترد کر دیا۔ کئی صحافیوں کو امریکیوں کی طرف سے محض اس لئے بلیک لسٹ کر دیا گیا کہ انہوں نے بلیک واٹر کی سرگرمیوں کے بارے میں سوالات کیوں اٹھائے؟ اس معاملے میں امریکی سفیر کے ضرورت سے زیادہ غصے نے مزید شکوک کو جنم دیا کیونکہ عام طور پر امریکی سفارتکار صحافیوں کے سوالات کا برا نہیں مناتے اور تنقید کا خندہ پیشانی سے جواب دیتے ہیں لیکن بلیک واٹر کے معاملے پر این ڈبلیو پیٹرسن نے دلائل کے ساتھ جواب دینے کی بجائے محض رعونت اور پراسرار خاموشی سے کام لیا۔ بعد ازاں نیویارک ٹائمز سمیت کئی دیگر امریکی اخبارات نے پاکستان میں بلیک واٹر کی سرگرمیوں کی تصدیق کر دی اور انکشاف کیا کہ پاکستان میں بلیک واٹر ایک نئے نام کے ساتھ مصروف عمل ہے۔ امریکی سفیر کو امریکی میڈیا نے غلط ثابت کر دیا۔
سب جانتے ہیں کہ ہمارے صدر آصف علی زرداری پاکستانی میڈیا کی خبروں پر زیادہ اعتبار نہیں کرتے۔ آصف علی زرداری کو پاکستانی طالبان اور امریکہ کے تعلق کی خبر جیو نیوز یا روزنامہ جنگ سے نہیں بلکہ حامد کرزئی سے ملی۔ زرداری صاحب بھلا حامد کرزئی کی خبر پر اعتبار کیوں نہ کرتے کیونکہ کرزئی تو امریکیوں کے گھر کا بھیدی ہے۔
باب وڈورڈ کی کتاب کے مطالعے سے پتہ چلتا ہے کہ امریکیوں کیلئے آصف علی زرداری کے الزام کو آسانی کے ساتھ نظر انداز کرنا ممکن نہ تھا لہٰذا انہوں نے اس الزام کو غلط ثابت کرنے کیلئے جنوبی وزیرستان میں بیت اللہ محسود پر حملہ کیا۔ اس حملے میں بیت اللہ محسود شاید زخمی ہوا اور کئی دن تک ایک خفیہ مقام پر بنوں کے ایک ڈاکٹر کے زیرعلاج رہا۔ اس دوران طالبان نے بیت اللہ محسود کے بچ جانے کی خوشی میں بکرے بھی ذبح کر دیئے لیکن یہ خوشی دیرپا نہ تھی اور چند دن کے بعد طالبان کو خود ہی بیت اللہ محسود کی موت کا اعلان کرنا پڑا۔
امریکیوں کا خیال تھا کہ بیت اللہ محسود کی موت کے بعد پاکستان میں ان کے خلاف غلط فہمیاں ختم ہو جائیں گی لیکن مسلسل ڈرون حملے اور ان حملوں میں بے گناہوں کی ہلاکتوں کے باعث غلط فہمیاں قائم رہیں۔
کیری لوگر بل اور ڈاکٹر عافیہ صدیقی کے معاملے نے امریکہ کے خلاف نفرت کو مزید ہوا دی اور دوسری طرف پاکستان میں مساجد اور صوفیاء کے مزاروں پر بھی حملے شروع ہوگئے۔ حامد کرزئی کا بدستور یہی خیال تھا کہ ان حملوں میں بھی طالبان کے وہ گروپ ملوث ہیں جن کا براہ راست سی آئی اے کے ساتھ رابطہ ہے۔ کرزئی کو یہ خبر افغانستان میں ان کے طالبان ذرائع سے ملتی رہی کیونکہ پچھلے دو سال سے کرزئی کے افغان طالبان کے ساتھ گہرے روابط ہیں۔
افغان طالبان نے ابتداء میں پاکستانی طالبان کو پاکستان کے اندر حملوں سے باز رکھنے کی کوشش کی تھی لیکن بعد ازاں انہیں پتہ چلا کہ پاکستانی طالبان کے بعض گروپ خوست، پکتیا، کنڑ اور ننگرھار میں امریکیوں کے ساتھ رابطے میں ہیں۔ مہمند اور باجوڑ میں پاکستانی سیکورٹی فورسز کے خلاف مزاحمت کرنے والے طالبان کمانڈر عمر خالد المعروف عبدالولی کے گروپ کے کچھ عسکریت پسندوں کو پشاور کی مارکیٹوں میں بم دھماکوں کا حکم ملا تو انہوں نے انکار کر دیا اور بھاگ کر افغان طالبان سے جا ملے اور انہوں نے افغان طالبان کو بتایا کہ عبدالولی کو کنڑ اور ننگرھار کے راستے سے بھاری اسلحہ اور رقم مل رہی ہے۔ افغانستان کے راستے سے صرف قبائلی علاقوں کے عسکریت پسندوں کو نہیں بلکہ بلوچ مزاحمت کاروں کو بھی امداد مل رہی ہے۔
افغانستان کے صدر کچھ نہیں کر سکتے تھے کیونکہ مشرقی اور جنوبی افغانستان کے جن علاقوں میں سازش ہو رہی ہے وہ امریکہ اور نیٹو کے کنٹرول میں ہیں لیکن افغان صدر نے اپنی اطلاع صدر زرداری تک پہنچا دی کیونکہ انہوں نے زرداری کی مدد سے دوسری دفعہ الیکشن جیتنا تھا۔ زرداری نے امریکہ کی مرضی کے خلاف کرزئی کو الیکشن جتوانے کیلئے ایڑی چوٹی کا زور لگا دیا۔ کرزئی کا دوسری مرتبہ صدر بننا امریکہ کی ایک بڑی سیاسی شکست تھی کیونکہ کرزئی افغان طالبان کے ساتھ مذاکرات کے حامی ہیں۔
باب وڈورڈ نے اپنی کتاب میں یہ اعتراف بھی کیا ہے کہ پاکستان میں امریکہ کے تین ہزار افراد کی ایک خفیہ فورس سرگرم ہے۔ کیا یہ فورس بلیک واٹر نہیں؟
اگر بلیک واٹر نہیں ہے تو پھر امریکی سفارت خانہ وضاحت کیوں نہیں کرتا؟ باب وڈورڈ نے یقیناآصف علی زرداری پر بہت بڑا احسان کر دیا ہے۔ زرداری کو ایک انتہائی غیرمقبول صدر کہا جاتا ہے جو عدلیہ کے ساتھ محاذ آرائی کے ذریعے سیاسی خودکشی کی طرف بڑھ رہا تھا لیکن باب وڈورڈ کی کتاب زرداری کو ایک بہت بڑا سیاسی شہید ثابت کرنے کیلئے کافی ہوگی، ایک ایسا شہید جس نے امریکہ پر پاکستان میں خودکش حملوں کا الزام لگایا۔ باب وڈورڈ نے آصف زرداری کو سیاسی طاقت کا نیا انجکشن لگا دیا ہے۔
http://search.jang.com.pk/details.asp?nid=475354
I wonder if he could even read properly, read the latest Fraud – Shamelessly Daily Jang has again misquoted the Washington Post and tells the half truth. After reading the Jang Thursday, October 14, 2010, Zi Qad 05, 1431 A.H http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/oct2010-daily/14-10-2010/u49248.htm , read the complete story from Washington Post on Pakistani Judiciary and post has committed “Contempt of Court” Pakistan’s emboldened judiciary threatens government stability By Karin Brulliard Washington Post Foreign Service Wednesday, October 13, 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/12/AR2010101205922.html
Are Pakistani Taliban CIA agents? Yes and Osama is US President and how quick we forget Khalid Khawaja Episode:
Hamid Mir/Jang Group’s Mess & Credibility of JANG/GEO TV.
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/05/hamid-mirjang-groups-mess-credibility.html
Jang Group/Hamid Mir’s Controversy & Twisted Logic of Dawn Group of Newspapers.
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/05/jang-grouphamid-mirs-controversy.html
Hamid Mir/Jang Groups’s Somersaults on Freedom of Expression. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/05/hamid-mirjang-groupss-somersaults-on.html
Jang Group’s sudden love with Bob Woodward and Washington Post is beyond comprehension. Why don’t they discuss these quotes of “Bob Woodward”
President Bush last month signed an intelligence order directing the CIA to undertake its most sweeping and lethal covert action since the founding of the agency in 1947, explicitly calling for the destruction of Osama bin Laden and his worldwide al Qaeda network, according to senior government officials. The president also added more than $1 billion to the agency’s war on terrorism, most of it for the new covert action. The operation will include what officials said is “unprecedented” coordination between the CIA and commando and other military units. Officials said that the president, operating through his “war cabinet,” has pledged to dispatch military units to take advantage of the CIA’s latest and best intelligence.
Bush’s order, called an intelligence “finding,” instructs the agency to attack bin Laden’s communications, security apparatus and infrastructure, senior government officials said. U.S. intelligence has identified new and important specific weaknesses in the bin Laden organization that are not publicly known, and these vulnerabilities will be the focus of the lethal covert action, sources said. “The gloves are off,” one senior official said. “The president has given the agency the green light to do whatever is necessary. Lethal operations that were unthinkable pre-September 11 are now underway.” The CIA’s covert action is a key part of the president’s offensive against terrorism, but the agency is also playing a critical role in the defense against future terrorist attacks. For example, each day a CIA document called the “Threat Matrix,” which has the highest security classification (“Top Secret/Codeword”), lands on the desks of the top national security and intelligence officials in the Bush administration. It presents the freshest and most sensitive raw intelligence on dozens of threatened bombings, hijackings or poisonings. Only threats deemed to have some credibility are included in the document.
One day last week, the Threat Matrix contained 100 threats to U.S. facilities in the United States and around the world — shopping complexes, specific cities, places where thousands gather, embassies. Though nearly all the listed threats have passed without incident and 99 percent turned out to be groundless, dozens more take their place in the matrix each day. It was the matrix that generated the national alert of impending terrorist action issued by the FBI on Oct. 11. The goal of the matrix is simple: Look for patterns and specific details that might prevent another Sept. 11. “I don’t think there has been such risk to the country since the Cuban missile crisis,” a senior official said. During an interview in his West Wing office Friday morning, Vice President Cheney spoke of the new war on terrorism as much more problematic and protracted than the Persian Gulf War of 1991, when Cheney served as secretary of defense to Bush’s father. The vice president bluntly said: “It is different than the Gulf War was, in the sense that it may never end. At least, not in our lifetime.”
Pushing the Envelope
In issuing the finding that targets bin Laden, the president has said he wants the CIA to undertake high-risk operations. He has stated to his advisers that he is willing to risk failure in the pursuit of ultimate victory, even if the results are some embarrassing public setbacks in individual operations. The overall military and covert plan is intended to be massive and decisive, officials said. “If you are going to push the envelope some things will go wrong, and [President Bush] sees that and understands risk-taking,” one senior official said. In the interview, Cheney said, “I think it’s fair to say you can’t predict a straight line to victory. You know, there’ll be good days and bad days along the way.” The new determination among Bush officials to go after bin Laden and his network is informed by their pained knowledge that U.S. intelligence last spring obtained high quality video of bin Laden himself but were unable to act on it. The video showed bin Laden with his distinctive beard and white robes surrounded by a large entourage at one of his known locations in Afghanistan. But neither the CIA nor the U.S. military had the means to shoot a missile or another weapon at him while he was being photographed.
Since then, the CIA-operated Predator unmanned drone with high-resolution cameras has been equipped with Hellfire antitank missiles that can be fired at targets of opportunity. The technology was not operational at the time bin Laden was caught on video. The weapons capability, which was revealed last week in the New Yorker magazine, was developed specifically to attack bin Laden, the officials said. In addition, with the U.S. military heavily deployed in some nations around Afghanistan, commando and other units are now available to move quickly on bin Laden or his key associates as intelligence becomes available. U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies recently received an important break in the effort to track down terrorist leaders overseas, according to officials. The FBI and CIA have been given limited access in the last several weeks to a top bin Laden lieutenant who was arrested after Sept. 11 and is being held in a foreign country. The person, whose various aliases include “Abu Ahmed,” is “a significant player,” in the words of one senior Bush official. Ahmed was arrested with five other members of al Qaeda. He is believed by several senior officials to be the highest-ranking member of al Qaeda ever held for systematic interrogation. Though Ahmed has not given information about future terrorist operations, he has provided some details about the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole in a Yemeni port, when 17 sailors were killed. One source said he also has information about the planned terrorist attacks in the United States that were disrupted before the millennium celebrations in December 1999.
The New Normalcy
When specific facilities or locations are threatened, as they have been repeatedly in the last month, the FBI informs local law enforcement authorities or foreign intelligence services that are supposed to increase security and take protective measures. The Threat Matrix lists where the intelligence comes from — intercepted communications, walk-in sources, e-mails, friendly foreign intelligence services, telephone threats, and FBI or CIA human sources. The public is not informed except when the threat is considered highly credible or specific, as it was on Oct. 11 when the FBI issued its nationwide alert. In the interview, Cheney said that deciding when to go public and when to withhold threat information is one of the most difficult tasks the administration faces. “You have to avoid falling into the trap of letting it be a cover-your-ass exercise,” Cheney said. “If you scare the hell out of people too often, and nothing happens, that can also create problems. Then when you do finally get a valid threat and warn people and they don’t pay attention, that’s equally damaging.”
He also noted, “If you create panic, the terrorist wins without ever doing anything. So these are tough calls.” Making details from the Threat Matrix public could result in chaos, several officials said. Literally hundreds of places, institutions and cities from across the country have been on the list. “It could destroy the livelihood of all those organizations and places without a bomb being thrown or a spore of anthrax being released,” another senior Bush official said. The official was asked what would happen if there was a major terrorist incident and many were killed at one of the facilities or places on the Threat Matrix and no public warning had been issued.
“Then they would have our heads,” the official said.
Intelligence and law enforcement agencies attempt to run every threat to ground to see if it is genuine, officials said. The results at times have been unexpected. In early October, a woman called authorities to say it was her patriotic duty to report that her husband, who is from the Middle East, was planning an attack with eight or nine friends on Chicago’s Sears Tower. The woman sounded credible and her allegations were reported in the Threat Matrix. The FBI then detained her husband and friends. On the next Threat Matrix the CIA reported that the FBI might have broken up an al Qaeda cell. Upon further investigation, the FBI learned that the woman was furious with her husband, who had a second wife. Her allegations had no merit, but the bureau discovered that some of the people were involved in an arranged-marriage scheme. “Instead of terrorism,” one official said, “we found an angry wife.” Another senior official said, “There can be a problem in a marriage and it results in, you know, an allegation that shows up in the Threat Matrix.” During the interview in his West Wing office, Cheney, with a large map of Afghanistan on an easel near his desk, spoke of life post-Sept. 11. “The way I think of it is, it’s a new normalcy,” he said. “We’re going to have to take steps, and are taking steps, that’ll become a permanent part of the way we live. In terms of security, in terms of the way we deal with travel and airlines, all of those measures that we end up having to adopt in order to sort of harden the target, make it tougher for the terrorists to get at us. And I think those will become permanent features in our kind of way of life.”
New War, Old Problems
Though the new intelligence war presents the CIA with an opportunity to excel, several officials noted that the campaign is also fraught with risk. The agency is being assigned a monumental task for which it is not fully equipped or trained, said one CIA veteran who knows the agency from many perspectives. Human, on-the-ground sources are scarce in the region and in the Muslim world in general. Since the end of the Cold War more than a decade ago, the Directorate of Operations (DO), which runs covert activity, has been out of the business of funding and managing major lethal covert action. The CIA has a history of bungling such operations going back to the 1950s and 1960s, most notably when the agency unsuccessfully plotted to assassinate Fidel Castro. In one of the celebrated anti-Castro plots, a CIA agent code-named AM/LASH planned to use Blackleaf-40, a high-grade poison, with a ballpoint-hypodermic needle on the Cuban leader. The device was delivered on Nov. 22, 1963, and a later CIA inspector general’s report noted it was likely “at the very moment President Kennedy was shot.” Though no connections were ever established between the Castro plots and the Kennedy assassination, the CIA’s reputation was severely tarnished. The covert war in Nicaragua in the 1980s was another source of negative publicity, as the CIA mined harbors without adequate notification to Congress and published a 90-page guerrilla-warfare manual on the “selective use of violence” against targets such as judges, police and state security officials. It became known as the “assassination manual.”
William J. Casey, President Ronald Reagan’s CIA director from 1981 to early 1987, was mired in the disastrous outcome of the “off-the-books” operations of the Iran-contra scandal. That scandal involved secret arms sales to Iran and the illegal diversion of profits from those sales to the contra rebels supported by the CIA in Nicaragua. Reagan and Casey had trouble when they sought to punish covertly the terrorists responsible for the 1983 truck bombing of the U.S. Marine compound in Lebanon, which killed 241 American servicemen in the deadliest terrorist attack on Americans before Sept. 11. Casey worked personally and secretly with Saudi Arabia to plan the assassination of Muslim leader Sheikh Fadlallah, the head of the Party of God or Hezbollah, who was connected to the Marine bombing. The method of retaliation was a massive car bomb that was exploded 50 yards from Fadlallah’s residence in Beirut, killing 80 people and wounding 200 in 1985. But Fadlallah escaped without injury.
Since the Ford administration, all presidents have signed an executive order banning the CIA or any other U.S. government agency from involvement in political assassination. Generally speaking, lawyers for the White House and the CIA have said that the ban does not apply to wartime when the military is striking the enemy’s command and control or leadership targets. The United States can also legally invoke the right of self-defense as justification for striking terrorists or their leaders planning attacks on the United States.
Bush’s new presidential finding differs from past findings against the terrorists in a number of significant ways. First, it puts more military muscle behind the clandestine effort to crush al Qaeda. Second, it is far better funded. Third, senior officials said, it has the highest possible priority and will involve better coordination within the entire national security structure: the White House, the president’s national security adviser, the CIA, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the departments of State, Defense and Justice. On Friday, Cheney said the country had a sense of confidence in Bush’s team, which includes an experienced trio of advisers — Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Cheney himself. CIA Director George J. Tenet has developed an unusually close relationship with the new president, becoming a regular during Camp David weekends and briefing the chief executive most days. “There’s a lot of tough decisions that are involved here, and some of them very close calls,” Cheney said. “But if I had to go out and design a team of people . . . this is it.”
The vice president added that the war on bin Laden and terrorists in general is going to be particularly difficult. “They have nothing to defend,” he said. “You know, for 50 years we deterred the Soviets by threatening the utter destruction of the Soviet Union. What does bin Laden value? “There’s no piece of real estate. It’s not like a state or a country. The notion of deterrence doesn’t really apply here. There’s no treaty to be negotiated, there’s no arms control agreement that’s going to guarantee our safety and security. The only way you can deal with them is to destroy them.”
‘Smoke Them Out’
Six days after the Sept. 11 attacks, Bush publicly declared the intentions of his administration with the statement that bin Laden was “Wanted: Dead or Alive.” In those remarks at the Pentagon, he said that the new enemy, bin Laden and other terrorists, liked “to hide and burrow in” and conceal themselves in caves. He first mentioned “a different type of war” that would “require a new thought process.” Two days later, Sept. 19, Bush made his first public mention of “covert activities,” noting that some foreign governments would be “comfortable” supporting such action. He added a broad outline of the goal: “Clearly, one of our focuses is to get people out of their caves, smoke them out and get them moving and get them. That’s about as plainly as I can put it.” Bush sounded this theme again during his nationally televised address to a joint session of Congress on Sept. 20, when he spoke of “covert activities, secret even in success.” In public remarks to CIA employees at the agency’s headquarters in Langley a week later, the president dropped more hints: “You see, the enemy is sometimes hard to find; they like to hide. They think they can hide, but we know better.”
Officials said that the covert activities approved by the president include a wide range of traditional CIA operations, such as close cooperation with friendly foreign intelligence services and covert and overt assistance to the Afghan rebels fighting to overthrow the Taliban leadership that harbors bin Laden. The CIA has studied bin Laden and his al Qaeda network for years. A special unit or “Bin Laden station,” created in 1996, works round the clock at headquarters. When Cheney gave a speech Thursday night in New York City, he noticed a sea change. As his motorcade went through Manhattan, people stopped their cars, got out and applauded. During his short speech before the 56th Annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner, he was interrupted by applause 15 times. On Friday morning, while sitting in his comfortable, well-lit West Wing office, he said with a smile, “There wasn’t a dove in the room.” Researcher Jeff Himmelman contributed to this report. REFERENCE: CIA Told to Do ‘Whatever Necessary’ to Kill Bin Laden Agency and Military Collaborating at ‘Unprecedented’ Level; Cheney Says War Against Terror ‘May Never End’ By Bob Woodward Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, October 21, 2001; Page A01 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27452-2001Oct20?language=printer
Shaheen Conventionality “forgot” to mention this type of Bob Woodward.
Pakistan’s chief spy Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad “was in the US when the attacks occurred.” He arrived in the US on the 4th of September, a full week before the attacks. He had meetings at the State Department “after” the attacks on the WTC. But he also had “a regular visit of consultations” with his US counterparts at the CIA and the Pentagon during the week prior to September 11. REFERENCE: Cover-up or Complicity of the Bush Administration? The Role of Pakistan’s Military Intelligence (ISI) in the September 11 Attacks by Michel Chossudovsky Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), Montréal Posted at globalresearch.ca 2 November 2001
AFTER 9/11.
In the afternoon, Mahmood was invited to CIA headquarters at Langley, Virginia, where he told George Tenet, the CIA director, that in his view Mullah Omar, the Taliban chief, was a religious man with humanitarian instincts and not a man of violence! This was a bit difficult for the CIA officials to digest and rightly so as the Taliban’s track record, especially in the realm of human rights, was no secret. General Mahmood was told politely but firmly that Mullah Omar and the Taliban would have to face US Military might if Osama Bin Laden along with other Al-Qaeda leaders were not handed over without delay. To send the message across clearly, Richard Armitage held a second meeting with Mahmood the same day, informing him that he would soon be handed specific American demands, to which Mahmood reiterated that Pakistan would cooperate. {Bush at War by Bob Woodward, published by Simon & Schuster, 2002, New York}, p 32. {Pakistan: Eye of the Storm by Owen Bennett Jones, published by New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2002}, p. 2.
General Mahmood on September 13, 2001, was handed a formal list of the US demands by Mr. Armitage and was asked to convey these to Musharraf and was also duly informed, for the sake of emphasis, that these were “not negotiable.” Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, and the assisstant secretary of state, Christina Rocca, had drafted the list in the shape of a “non-paper”. It categorically asked Pakistan:
Stop Al-Qaeda operatives coming from Afghanistan to Pakistan, intercept arms shipments through Pakistan, and end ALL logistical support for Osama Bin Laden.
Give blanket overflight and landing rights to US aircraft.
Give the US access to Pakistani Naval and Air Bases and to the border areas betweeen Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Turn over all the intelligence and immigration information.
Condemn the September 11 attacks and curb all domestic expressions of support for terrorism.
Cut off all shipments of fuel to the Talibans, and stop Pakistani volunteers from going into Afghanistan to join the Taliban. Note that, should the evidence strongly implicate Osama Bin Laden and the Al-Qaeda Network in Afghanistan, and should the Taliban continue to harbour him and his accomplices, Pakistan will break diplomatic relations with the Taliban regime, end support for the Taliban, and assist the US in the aforementioned ways to destroy Osama and his network.
Having gone through the list, Mahmood declared that he was quite clear on the subject and that “he knew how the President thought, and the President would accept these points.” {Bush at War by Bob Woodward, published by Simon & Schuster, 2002, New York}, p 58-59. Interview: Richard Armitage, “Campaign Against Terror,” PBS (Frontline), April 19, 2002}
Mahmood then faxed the document to Musharraf. While the latter was going through it and in the process of weighing the pros and cons of each demand, his aide de camp that Colin Powell was on the line. Musharraf liked and respected Powell, and the conversation was not going to be a problem. He told him that he understood and appreciated the US position, but he would respond to the US demands after having discussed these with his associates. Powell was far too polite to remind him that he in fact was the government, but did inform him that his General in Washington had already assured them that these demands would be acceptable to the government of Pakistan. {Pakistan’s Drift into Extremism : Allah, the Army, and America’s War on Terror by Hassan Abbas, published by An East Gate Book , M.E. Sharpe Armonk, New York. London, England.}. NOTES/REFERENCES – Pakistan: Eye of the Storm by Owen Bennett Jones, published by New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2002. Interview: Richard Armitage, “Campaign Against Terror,” PBS (Frontline), April 19, 2002; Bush at War by Bob Woodward, published by Simon & Schuster, 2002, New York. Pakistan’s Drift into Extremism : Allah, the Army, and America’s War on Terror by Hassan Abbas, published by An East Gate Book , M.E. Sharpe Armonk, New York. London, England
Why don’t Shaheen Sehbai mention “Bush At War” by Bob Woodward.
Pakistan’s declaration exonerated the U.S from any demand for legal or moral justification for their attacks on the poor Afghans. By this rescue mission, Pakistan might have improved its credentials as a front-line state but it did spell death and destruction for the poor Afghans. This was not the all that Musharraf did to prove his loyalties to the Bush administration. As we would come to see later, he even dismissed General Mahmood, Director ISI and several of his key – lieutenants, a step highly lauded and appreciated by C.I.A chief. The new chief of ISI was advised to remove whatever Pro-Taliban elements were left in the intelligence department of Pakistan. (P. 214) Bush At War Author: Bob Woodward Publishers: Simon & Schuster Rockefeller Center New York Year of publication: 2002
Incidentally General Mahmood (Director ISI) was already in Washington. Jim Pavitt got hold of him and apparently talked bitterly about Mullah Omar. General Mahmood felt obliged to defend Mullah Omar. He said that in his opinion Mullah Omar was religious, a man of humanitarian instincts, not a man of violence, but one who had suffered greatly under Afghan war-lords. (p. 47). Bush At War Author: Bob Woodward Publishers: Simon & Schuster Rockefeller Center New York Year of publication: 2002
“Stop”, Jim Pavitt interrupted rudely and arrogantly asked General Mahmood: “Spare Me….” (p. 47). Bush At War Author: Bob Woodward Publishers: Simon & Schuster Rockefeller Center New York Year of publication: 2002
Then Armitage invited Gen.Mahmood to the state department. He began by saying it was not clear yet what the U.S would ask of Pakistan but the request would force “deep introspection. Pakistan faces a stark choice, either it is with us or it is not. This is a black & white choice with no gray”. (p. 47). Bush At War Author: Bob Woodward Publishers: Simon & Schuster Rockefeller Center New York Year of publication: 2002
Mahmood said that his country had faced tough choices in the past but Pakistan, he pointed out, was not a big or mighty power. “Pakistan is an important country”, Armitage cut in. Mahmood returned to the past [& probably referred to some of the instances where Pakistan was used by the U.S and then abandoned in an un-ceremonial manner]. “The future begins to-day”,3 Armitage said. Pass the word to General Musharraf, the President of Pakistan. “With us or against us.” (p. 47). Bush At War Author: Bob Woodward Publishers: Simon & Schuster Rockefeller Center New York Year of publication: 2002
Powell & Armitage later drew a list of seven demands4 with a view to presenting them to Musharraf. These demands were:
• “Stop Al-Qaeda operatives at your border intercept arms shipments through Pakistan and end all logistical support for bin Ladin.”
• “Give the US Blanket over flight and landing rights for all types of operation”
• “Access to Pakistan, naval bases, air bases and borders.”
• “Immediate intelligence and immigration information.”
• “Condemn the September 11 attacks and “curb all domestic expressions of support for terrorism against the [United States], its friends or allies.” Powell and Armitage knew that was something they couldn’t even do in the United States.”
• “Cut off all shipments of fuel to Taliban and stop Pakistani volunteers from going into Afghanistan to join the Taliban.”
• “The seventh demand was the one that Powell would trip up the Pakistanis or cause Musharraf to balk: “should the evidence strongly implicate Osama bin Ladin and the Al-Qaeda network in Afghanistan AND should Afghanistan and the Taliban continue to harbor him and his network, Pakistan will break diplomatic relations with the Taliban government, end support for Taliban and assist us in the aforementioned ways to destroy Osama bin Ladin and his Al-Qaeda network.” (p. 58-59).
In a way, the U.S directed Pakistan to take a U-turn on Afghanistan and destroy with their own hands whatever they had created and maintained, that is, the Taliban. Armitage called General Mahmood again and handed over the list of demands to him by saying; “this is not negotiable… you must accept all seven demands”. (p. 59).
At 1:30 P.M. Powell called Musharraf “as one General to another. He said, “We need someone on our flank fighting with us. Speaking candidly, the American people wouldn’t understand if Pakistan was not in this fight with the United States.” (p. 59).
Musharraf to Powell’s utter surprise said that Pakistan would support the United States with each of the seven actions. (p. 59). Later Powell read out these demands to President Bush and proudly reported that Musharraf had already accepted them all. On hearing this Bush said gleefully, “it looks like you got it all”. (p. 61). Bush thought it was the State Department at its best. He later recalled that “Powell was very good with Musharraf. He single-handedly got Musharraf on board”, and was able to put a coalition together. (p. 342).
‘Pakistan plans to target militants in North Waziristan’
Thursday, 14 Oct, 2010 http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/04-mullen-north-waziristan-qs-05
WASHINGTON: US Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen said the Pakistani military has pledged to go after militants that the US wants targeted in the North Waziristan tribal region. Mullen said Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Pervaiz Kayani has given assurances that he will mount an offensive in the tribal region along the Afghan border.
check this Munafiq Taliban Journalist in his column below ,here he is supporting Taliban openly and saying the there will be more suicide bombings by taliban ,Why the “journalist Biradri ” do not discuss this hypocrisy in the programs
http://search.jang.com.pk/archive/details.asp?nid=392967
قرآن کی پکار….قلم کمان …حامد میر
“حالیہ خودکش حملوں سے یہ تو واضح ہے کہ طالبان اپنی جنگ جنوبی وزیرستان میں نہیں بلکہ پشاور، راولپنڈی، اسلام آباد اور دیگر شہروں میں لڑیں گے”
” تمام مکاتب فکر کے علماء اور اہم سیاسی جماعتوں کے ساتھ مل کر مربوط حکمت عملی بنائے اور ایک ایسا مصالحتی گروہ بنانے پر غور کرے جو مسلمانوں کے دو گروہوں میں لڑائی بند کرانے کا راستہ تلاش کرے کیونکہ مسلمانوں کے کئی دشمن اس لڑائی سے خوب فائدہ اٹھارہے ہیں۔ وزیر داخلہ رحمان ملک نے خودکش حملے کرنے والوں کو کرائے کے قاتل قرار دیا ہے۔ وہ قاتلوں کی مذمت تو کرتے ہیں لیکن انکے کرائے ادا کرنیوالوں کا نام کیوں نہیں لیتے؟
پاکستان میں دہشت گردی اسی وقت رُکے گی جب ہم مساجد میں بچوں کو قتل کرنیوالوں کی مذمت کے ساتھ ساتھ قبائلی علاقوں میں بے گناہ لوگوں کو مارنا بندکریں گے، ڈرون حملوں کے خلاف عملی طور پر اُٹھ کھڑے ہوں اور غیرملکی مداخلت مسترد کردیں۔ ہم قرآن کی پکار سن لیں تو ہماری اندرونی لڑائی ختم ہوجائے گی لیکن خدانخواستہ ایسا نہ ہوا تو آپس میں لڑنے والے دونوں گروہ آخرکار بیرونی دشمن کے نشانے پر ہوں گے۔”
Here this Munafiq Wants Negotiation with Taliban ..
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Shaitan Mir cant make people fool for long, it is matter of Taliban vs Humanity and he is talking non sense “DO GROHON” mein laraai..it is all BS
which two Grohon, one Groh is Mir´s friends Taliban and other Groh is rest of mankind
Pakistan has suffered a lot at the hands of terrorism. It is a sad fact that some of our own people supported these “faithless killers” and played their part in our collapse as a liberal society.
hamid mir is agent of cia and raw and he killed my father khalid khawaja rest of the killers are killed by the justice system of ALLAH and i believe soon he also has to face the justice of ALLAH.
@Usama, please accept our condolences on the death of your father. May his soul rest in peace.
If you would like to expose your father’s killers through an article, we will be happy to publish that. Also, do let us know what happened with the killers and how.
Hamid Mir & GEO TV Supported Lal Masjid Operation. (Dunya TV 15 Feb 2011) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTkrOW0krd4
I think and can say with sure that CIA is 100 % involve in Suicide attach and funding them too.
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